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Book idea, show the reader that the ease of travel during the age of strife was manufactured by Chaos to spread humanity enough to reap their harvest of souls

There are things in the deep warp that even the great four fear. That is terrifying

The thing people forget is the Immaterium isn't just the collective conscious and subconscious realm of thoughts, emotions, actions, and beliefs of humanity, but for all species across all universes, timelines, and dimensions (think of the Infosphere and Narratives from the SCP cosmology). With so much thought and contradictory thought of abstract ideas, concepts, and anomalies, as well as each layer of the Immaterium being infinitely larger, complex, and impossible than the previous - is it any wonder the entities are so powerful and messed up.

Nah, they aint it. that said, I think they would fuck up the Tau at least. It would be a proper war, a war the Eternals might actually be equipped to fight.m Given The Imperium gives them a modicum of attention, and they have to fight tooth and nail against at best, and apathetic Imperium, because the resources to utterly wipe them out wouldn't be worth the effort. The moment Chaos ceased to be, Tau would be fucked. That said, SEAF is not equipped to fight any protracted war against the 40k factions. it's a numbers game, and most factions aside from the Tau and Eldari, outweigh them by the crapton.

For anyone interested, the sci-fi horror movie "Event Horizon" is widely considered by the fandom to be a movie about traveling through the warp. It's not an official WH40K movie, but the influence is heavy.

Time to listen to all of your videos while painting. Thank you.

Hmm...

Has everyone forgot their *BLACK HOLE GUN* that casually destroyed a planet?

Space marines come in 4 categories. Psychopaths, autistic, chill bros, and hybrids. Autistic: Ultramarines, imperial fists, Raven guard. Chill bros = Salamanders, blood angels, crimson fists (Blood Angels have been kept off of hybrid/psychopath because they at least try to restrain their violent proclivities.) Psychopaths: Most traitor astartes, Marines Malevolent, Mortifactors, flesh Tearers. Hybrid: Black Templars, Ironhands, iron warriors.

Should change the name to "Would the Warhammer 40k Universe survive the Helldivers?"

Wow... the possibility of chaos god of liberty and freedom beeing born broke me to the point i spit my food... the guy would be jonh hell diver and his super destroyer would be an entire planet... any thing that can kill a helldiver can kill him but the guy just drops down again ready to roll besides he is jonh bell diver unkillable and waay too good at his craft...

Well...yes...but actually kinda no maybe?!?...but survive is more the right term! The helldivers are just jacked up guardsmen with better mechanicus artillery!

They don't have a lot training but as children most citizens of superearth have rifle training and are very eager to kill for democracy

🟢 Loyalist Mortarion, raised by farmers, who with discipline and determination used his psychic power to destroy the Necromancers and liberate his world, then commanding the harsh Librarians of his tough Death Guard. Despite the poisonous air, Barbarus progresses and becomes an Agri-World. Loyalists Mortarion and Death Guard not as grim reapers but as grain farmers, with the deep admiration of Nathaniel Garro. Librarian Crysos Morturg's valiant sacrifice, opening the Dark Glass and allowing Loyalist Death Guard and Mortarion to reach and defend Terra. The Scythes of the Emperor, the Doom Eagles and the Mortifactors. One is worthy of being the new Death Guard Legion. Scythes of the Emperor because of Nurgle's Hexwraiths and Doom Eagles because of Nathaniel Garro.

Very interesting, Super Earth is communist AF

Helldivers are not poorly trained, just one is the equivalent of an Army on their own, it takes a few named ultramarines to do the impossible, key word being named, the rest are cannon fodder by comparison, meanwhile the Helldivers are just that, no names, they're the equivalent of special forces, in the SEAF, the ones that get called in when being diplomatic doesn't work.

The Ecclesiarchy, the Machine Cult and Ordo Hereticus would absolutely call for a crusade against them. However if Super Earth is open to bribery eg paying the Imperial tithe and then some, Adeptus Administratum and the Astra Militarum would be in their corner. Not sure how this internal conflict would resolve Also each Hell Diver having their own ship with Alcubierre drive would also mean ample picking for the Earth Caste, who can make their own version within months, eliminating their second largest weakness as a faction: travel speed Also Trazyn would react as always: Oh cool. New Pokemon game dropped. Gonna catch 'em all

Sure Mortarion lacks justification... if you refuse to say anything about Mortarions circumstances and history. So far i've yet to see a traitor legion whose consequences were not brought upon by the emperor's actions. I guess Horus is probably the only one I can thing of that had no ground to stand on but I don't know much about him just that he was the emperor's favorite and his betrayal was a side affect of the word bearers betrayal. Betrayal being used rather loosely. Personally I think the emperor deserved all of it... Humanity didn't though.

If Super Earth could bring the population, I think you describe it well. But with helldivers taking place in 2184, we can assume Super Earth and colonies only has a population of a dozen to a couple of dozen billion. That's a drop in the bucket. As such, I think Super Earth, no matter how well they individually could do, would just be overwhelmed by the nearest 40k faction.

If what yall saying bout the helldivers is true, then with a lil bit prep and extra (certified real life special forces level) training and extra armour and firearms upgrade with a little more of armoury, isnt it safe to assume theyll make it out alive🧐🧐🧐

"A violent fate, a hidden war; Such is the future, of all who answer the call." The Alpha Legion has the most difficult task to complete, as the legion is not monolith. The webs of deceit they weave, and the knowledge needed to infiltrate, quite literally every aspect of human and some xenos culture, has no equal anywhere in entire universe of Warhammer 40k. The time frame of the legion works in spans millennia, as sleeper and splinter cells may act independently for centuries, sometimes in direct opposition of one another. Perhaps Omegon will sound the trumpet and call his legion back from the cold, but that is a tale for another time.

POORLY TRAINED? How can anyone look at a guy in fully enclosed armor carrying a pistol, small arm and a *crew-served* weapon and have the ability to use this *crew served* weapon solo and with great effect on the move? SE's approved games are military games. They are hyper militarized. We see in the real world Russia and Korea do things like train children how to disassemble and reassemble a weapon. It would be weird if SE would be less militarized than that. They also get a gun and are expected to be proficient with it when they reach 18 years old. Effectively SE citizens would be closer to basic training recruits than civilians, and then they go through the SE basic training *which takes more than a few weeks*. During a war all new training is shortened, it was like 3 weeks of basic for American soldiers near the end of WWII. So trying to say the in-game basic training is somehow applicable for all SEAF personnel is false. Helldivers are also recruited from the SEAF. So a minimum of experience is expected. You also mentioned the ministry of humanity and genetic purity. Those C-O1 forms aren't just to control the population, they are a eugenics program that has lasted generations by HD2. This is why Helldivers can perform what are superhuman feats like the aforementioned carrying of a full battle gear plus crew served weapon. Or their ability to get harmed and still keep going. Like breaking an arm and still being able to fire guns with some accuracy (not much, but some). Add to that the fact that drugs and stimulants is a common and easily accessible tool for SE, even loading crew can be doped up, and the Helldivers are top of the line. They are closer to superhumans than poorly trained soldiers. Seriously I had high hopes when the advantage of FTL and logistics were mentioned. A life expectancy of 2 minutes is also extremely long. Because for example in Vietnam the expectancy was in the seconds. SE would stomp the 40K world with ease. First off: numbers. The Helldivers are purely fighting in the rear of the enemy, sabotaging production, supply, command and control etc. They rarely can win by just killing enemies. The SEAF is the group that actually wins the planet after the Helldivers cripple the enemy. This means that the SEAF kills more than the Helldivers to achieve their goals, and the Helldivers can kill more bots in a day than many 40K fights bring in total. This means the scale of warfare on a planet of SE is much bigger. And the speed is even more frightening. By the time a fleet is assembled and send to take back a planet, SE has already taken several more planets. Any planet too tough to take directly (say a Forge World) will be taken on by capturing the planets that supply it (which is the basic way they use Helldivers already). On top of that the Ministry of Science managed to figure out *extradimensional tech* from the Illuminate within a century. In fact when the Illuminate offered a cure for cancer SE managed to weaponize it early in the war. SE also saw the dangerous bile of the bugs and not only weaponized that as well but also made it more lethal. So they should have little problems reverse engineering Imperial tech first, and then going on to reverse engineer the tech of other factions. And we haven't even discussed the option of diplomacy. Yes SE does diplomacy mostly by wielding the biggest stick, but that is 100% what the Imperium of Man functions on too! And SE can punish you within minutes of learning you did something against them, while the Imperium can at best respond in weeks to months if they know right away and it can take years or centuries in many cases. And SE then offers far superior living conditions than 40K does as well as a semblance of freedom. They give the masses something to work for. They might effectively trade one tyrant for another, but this new tyrant actually does care for them more than the previous one. Even if SE meets something dangerous like Necrons, 4 Hive fleets at once or 50 WAAAAGHS and 100 craft worlds that decide they are done with them, SE's expansion is just too darn fast compared to the relatively slow 40K ships and the scale of warfare too big. The bots and bugs use *billions* of units to take a planet. And yet it can take days and hundreds of millions of casualties, and those are just the casualties the Helldivers make not the civilians and SEAF. 40K's numbers just pale in comparison even if you take the "a million have died, send in the next wave" at face value. And once SE starts hybridizing 40K tech with their own, they will steamroll everything. And we haven't even discussed suckerpunching. SE has plenty of nukes, they'll happily use it on relatively small objectives. We now even see SE cities where SEAF artillery has nuclear shells ready. So taking the SEAF Liberty class ship, which does the space combat since Super Destroyers sure as hell haven't been used for that, this ship can warp in extremely close to the target and launch a dozen nukes of various sizes in quick succession and warp out. And if Super Destroyers are any indication, it would not be uncommon for 30.000+ of these ships to be present at a single battle. 30.000+ ships with the ability to nuclear suckerpunch can demolish any 40K army with ease. No one seems to realize how ridiculously dangerous the Helldivers universe is. The scale and tech available is just so ludicrous.

the average life expectacy in vietnam was 2 seconds

Are the iron warriors really Chaos Marines? Or just don’t care about nothing that’s going on? lol

red hierophant you got something wrong about the hell divers, they are highly trained and you're comparing them to real earth, NO the truth is that you can join the super earth military at like 9 years old, so they will have all that training and experience to become a helldiver the most elite of their planet , also the life expectancy is 2 minutes? its actually they will live at least 2 minutes on the battlefield, everything else i think its right.

Its funny , they use outdated gear, are total assholes, and damn near unliked by everyone. Yet they are on of the most successful chapters makes you think what they could do if they had access to top of the line gear.

Perturabo was the only one to beat a daemon primarch decisively.

I genuinely think a Helldiver could solo a Space Marine easily. Any anti-tank support weapon would be an easy win, the orbital railcannon strike would be an instant gg, a hellpod from a friendly reinforcement would not end well for a marine, and an autocannon sentry would probably also make quick work of one. And that's not even considering the MOST deadly weapon in a Helldiver's arsenal. The 380 mm barrage seems to consciously target and eliminate any human life within its radius, with no chance to escape. Edit: Fantastic video btw, loved the breakdown of each faction's threat against Super Earth

Helldivers are not Poorly Trained.

Super Earth has one of three outcomes... one they get wiped out by some xenos most likely Orks, Nids or Tau depending on where in the galaxy they get plopped down. Two they get consumed by chaos or a CSM warband and no one even knows they were there to start with. Three they either get taken over by the Imperium or wiped out by the Imperium for refusing to comply with the Emperor's rule. Either way they do not have the numbers, weapons or ships to be a faction or group that survives on their own for long and given how they are also xeno hating they chances of them siding with the Tau are very low and the Tau are just as join or die as the Imperium only they start selectively breeding their people for jobs like they did their own castes then kill any who do not fit a role. Yes they do this and the Aetheral cast uses some sort of mind control on the blue fish commies so they go along with it and why they have to pull the greater good lie for not blue fish people then kill any who don't go along with the eugenics program. All in all Super Earth wouldn't even make it to be a foot note in any Imperial or xenos records... Which is sad but because they are a fun lot.

If Tau allies created Greater Good in the Warp at one point, I'm pretty sure that all helldivers will just manifest Democracy.

Helldiver Destroyers would not even make it to low orbit before being shot to pieces in space. They're armed exclusively for fire-support and not ship-to-ship combat. Theyre glorified taxis for jumping out of. If you could torpedo yourself from ship-to-ship by angling a destroyer bottom towards enemy, I guess you could effectively then also use the fire-support weapons to pepper an enemy ship in a pinch.

Iron Warriors was using woman in right way. Making baby its the only way for woman.

I haven’t seen the vid. I just came to the comments to say: No.

"poorly trained" "Helldiver starts using whatever weapon they touch with high effectiveness under heavy fire, beats robots by wacking with his gun ripping pieces of them, maniacly happy about sacrificing himself for super earth and democracy not just out of duty and loyalty but out of joy he feels because he is being sacrificed for freedom"

In the old lore exodites had knight warmachines of various designs, with different clans. Would love to see this brought back into the current warhammer setting.

They really need their own codex for the latest edition

They are cooler than i thaught. Still i can't stand Eldari or Elves in any genre. Legolas(Bloom) PTSD i guess Thx for your work and passion.

Thanks for the video 👍🏻

🟣 Circle of Avidity is a hell of gold, Circle of Gluttony is a hell of blood, Circle of Carnality is a hell of sand, Circle of Supremacy (Paramountcy) is a hell of ash, Circle of Vanity (Vainglory) is a hell of water, Circle of Indolency is a hell of snow. Golden snake pearls/eggs. The Coral Forest of Vanity. Because Slaanesh is nature in water (example the sea forests of the Laer). Coral with spikes and seaweed with spines. Serpents and Crocodiles in Supremacy, Horses and Hippocampi in Vanity, Pegasi and Dragons in Indolency. Fulgrim and Emperor's Children become Horses, Konrad Curze and Night Lords become Lizards, Alpharius/Omegon and Alpha Legion become Crocodiles. Bodies of dark stone, the dark Ice Moon of Slaanesh!

🔴 Angron, pure metal, a Loyalist rock of valor worthy for the Emperor. Sanguinius and Blood Angels with Angron and World Eaters, forming a great brotherhood! Angron is saved and raised by the village of the city of Desh'ea and then sells himself as a gladiator planning its conquest and liberation, neither he nor Oenomaus receive the butcher's nails but they are still forced to fight with Angron who gives an honorable death to his dear mentor, then (recruiting more soldiers thanks to his psychic power) in the last battle the Emperor decides to send the World Eaters to defend Angron and his warriors (recognizing potential new forces for his XII Legion) and subsequently, with all medical science, heal the heads of the surviving men. A good example is Vladus Barca himself (practically the loyalist version of Angron). And the World Eaters choose to repaint parts of themselves red to honor the title (and above all the sacrifice) of their father: the Red Angel. Another good possibility is this. Oenomaus had already freed Desh'ea and ruled House Thal'kyr, then after hearing about the boy named Angron, raised first by wolves and then by villagers, he decides to recruit him among his warriors, seeing him as their hope. Angron thus grows well becoming a just adult, in a reborn city with a large army of strong warriors, successfully leading his valiant soldiers (being a psyker), with the title Red Angel, against the tyrants (witnessing the tragic but honorable death of his father figure in the last battle), ultimately becoming the Warrior King, powerful ruler of all Nuceria. Some time after the planet's pacification Angron meets the Emperor challenging him to a long duel, this time voluntarily embracing his place as son, Primarch and father of the XII Legion of War Wolves (World Eaters), officially making Nuceria their homeworld. Or maybe even this! All the cities of Nuceria are governed by several Warrior Kings (with a valiant warrior spirit, fighting against the tyranny of bloody Beastmen), who over time see the rise of the wolf Angron Thal'kyr as a sign of a worthy ruler (and future worthy Primarch)! A psyker soul like Sanguinius! Angron also lived alongside ferocious predators, the wild Wolves of Nuceria (hard-skinned beasts), before being taken by the people of the village. And just like the Iron Hands with the Bulls of Medusa, the Rock (Dark) Angels with the Lions of Caliban and the Space Wolves with the Wolves of Fenris, the World Eaters learn to build a bond with the creatures of their home planet.

Technology wise I feel like super earth would lose most fights the only way for them to actually survive is if they win a battle and most factions are used to a numbers game

Life Expectancy and Life span are two different things. 2 Minute wartime Life Expectancy is better than anything we have in modern times. If I'm not mistaken during the Vietnam war, there was something like a 2 second life expectancy but obviously something like 80% of all war fighters lived. To draw this comparison to have a 2 minute life expectancy in war, means that the Hell Divers are at an insane level of elite that is unheard of in modern times. They're very well trained and equipped

Theyd most likely have TT stats of: M: 6, T 3, Sv: 4+, W: 1, Ld: 6, OC: 2 Majority of their weapons would be WS/BS 3+, and they would probably have a FNP 6+ and a chance to heal a lost wound on a 5+ For a base, Id give the basic assualt rifle: range 24", A: 2, S: 3, ap: -, D: 1 keywords: Assault, rapid fire 1. Then scale everything up or down from there.

🟣 Fulgrim and Emperor's Children become Horses, Konrad Curze and Night Lords become Lizards, Alpharius/Omegon and Alpha Legion become Crocodiles of Slaanesh. The Chaos Symbol of Slaanesh is the Dark Ice Moon (in various lunar forms). Kyriss the Perverse makes the Hydra Alpha Legion fall to the Dark Prince.

🟣 Fulgrim and Emperor's Children become Horses, Konrad Curze and Night Lords become Dragons, Alpharius/Omegon and Alpha Legion become Crocodiles of Slaanesh. The Chaos Symbol of Slaanesh is the Dark Ice Moon (in various lunar forms). Kyriss the Perverse makes the Hydra Alpha Legion fall to the Dark Prince.

More AI slop.

All sanctioned psykers are sorcerers, by virtue of their connection to The Emperor. Change my mind.

Annoying AI voice… but finally finally someone talks about this. I have been saying this for YEARS!

We all know why female custodes were introduced. We have the DEI people to thank for that.