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@youdigsurf yes full honest review will be after a few sessions. I will do my first thoughts after first try not due for a few weeks yet, tho 😅 thanks for watching mate 👍

@OCEANBOUND1 thanks my man 💪

@izno-r2y yes I have gone for the v3 fuse in titanium to use with the v2 mast already have have, so I will do a first review and a in depth one a month or so after . Thanks for watching bud 👍 🙏 good winds

@@wingfoil750 thanks bud

@@savmf yes amazing how little wind it needs 😍

I did go for a body weight board in the end I went for 95 liters for my 95kg it's a very nice board and would not go back and have sold my other 120l board .personally I will not go less 95L so less than my body weight as if the wind dies its to hard to slog in from 1mile offshore . Your smaller 100 l board sounds good just perseverance with that and getting up on foil, pumping with legs and arms will get easy eventually its just time on water. Get a smaller board when you start to land tacks and have gybes 100%success. Best money is spent on front foils to make a quiver for light and strong winds

@grantmacdonald4838 I found the v2 fluid 42 to be a bit more glide and more stable as its longer if you want a bit more front foot pressure try moving your foil forward a bit 5cm at a time and make your stance smaller this helped me . Thanks for commenting hope this helps some Grant ,I wish you great winds speak soon

@@christomo I find it very twitchy, especially in roll. Unfortunately I'm at the front of the foil box already. Tempted to buy a V2 Curve L

@grantmacdonald4838 the curve h is so good for glide and low end and so stable its still my wing of choice by far . V2 curve is great if you have solid waves with shape or curve h for lumps and bumps and windswell. I do have a veloce v3 on order so I'll make a video when it arrives

@@christomo I was mainly talking about the stabilizer since the Fluid H 42 is just a little unstable for me and seems to give up flying before the wing actually runs out of lift. If I get way back on the board it'll keep going just in a very unstable way. The V3 stuff is very interesting with the new Curve stabilizers looking almost like the V2 Sirius? I'm tempted by a Veloce HDW XL for a light wind wing, all we have is open ocean windswell. The HDW looks like it can actually turn while having a lot of glide. It might pair well with my V2 Fluid tail to loosen it up. Lots to mix and match with no way to try before you buy plus expensive shipping on small items.

@spiritcatcher100 thanks bud back Sunday let's try get in

@kenholmdal thanks Ken did you get the board how are you getting on with it

@@christomo yes. It is faster when taxiing and I have been flying shortly and controlled but when wind increases I have to figure out how go get more weight on the front foot instead of the rear foot 🤙🤔

@@kenholmdal move mast back or yourself forward a small amount 5cm at a time . Enjoy 😉 good winds mate

@ernestsentis personally I would get curve h xl for lower winds and curve h large or medium for higher winds I hardly use my normal verve as the swell waves are more fun on a more glide front wing so H the normal curve is only better to tight turn and when wave has some shape to surf for windswell 2 to 4ft curve h is better by far for me . I use shorter freestyle stab to make the h more agile as well

@@christomo Thanks a lot! So, for your opinion it's better to have the curve H in all conditions. Because you dont' use your normal curve front wing usually, because curve H it glides better in waves. I will try with the curve H in L size with it's own stab.

@ernestsentis yes exactly 💯 curve h more glide for my conditions. I have friends who live and ride propper 6ft swell with shape and they like the normal lower aspect curve v2 as it turned better . So it depends on kind of waves you have . Hope that makes sense. I would but the bigger curve h first, try, then get a smaller one after trying

@sandspursplinter5397 definitely go for the curve h xl I'm 95kg and have curve v2 large ok for bigger swell 5ft and i have curve h xl for small 2ft to 4ft waves winds 14kn to 30 kn no problem. And I have curve h xxl for 1.5ft to 3.5 ft waves 12 kn to 25kn slower but more lift and glide . Hope helps some . Thanks for watching bud and have a awesome week 😀

@bmrbca3658 we only have gusty winds at my local spit and the Neutra is more forgiving in the gusts buy still very powerful for size . Thanks for watching ,good winds .

@OCEANBOUND1 yes a catch up sounds cool in I Egypt having fam break no wind toys with me tho . Have a awesome week bud roll on Fri for your vid my little foil escape for 10 mins 😀

@izno-r2y I was on the curve h xxl low end and low stall is unreal, and I can still push it in 20 kn at 95kg Thanks for watching. Have a great week

@@christomo yeah I remember the back and forth we had on another video. I thought because you said massive that you had something like 2000 😂 I am the one who is gonna buy the new XXL v3 and I am the same weight as you with regular 12-14 knots on my spot. Can't wait to see the difference coming from the x over XXL.

@izno-r2y the curve hxxl v3 that will be nice can't wait for your opinion on it That will be great for your conditions looking at the dimensions

@@christomo Of course I will let you know as soon as possible. Probably mid September with the new mast as well :)

@izno-r2y always welcome to say hi on fb I'm the same name & photo

@gregoriomatia6183 I found the droids more for freestyle with more power instantly explosive and the neutra to be more smother in power delivery and amazing flagging on waves . So, as all I want to do is ride a wave, I went with the neutra hope that helps some . Thanks for commenting good winds

@jjmc4 haha thanks for watching Justin ill do a update in a fee weeks as iv uploaded next week's vid due to family commitments. Thanks for watching and commenting ❤️ 😊 speak soon

@jonathanalstead always welcome 🙏 I haven't got a bank balance anymore. Have a great week tha ks for watching and commenting

@targadave yes Dave I looked at a few options ,I purchased the v3 veloce in Xl and stab veloce v3 in large and the titanium fuselage for v2 mast to fit it all together with my v2 86HM . This was still a cheaper price for the full plaine than most brands' front wings alone .The gong wings are so much stiffer as well .Some of the foils from Leading brands fly so nice but such a high price for a different feeling that I wouldn't say was better or worse just different and so many options to choose in all brands something for us all. IM TOLD that The overall length of the gong v3 is shorter than the v2 with freestyle stab, so I was informed to go with veloce stab. I went for large to keep loose and hope I have ordered correctly. More to follow first look on arrival and first few flights and in-depth review after a months riding. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have an amazing weekend

@watercrazylion yes I will update on the 2 foils in September . I did not measure the top speeds, but the Eagle felt fastest then the spitfire and curve h last as you would expect . And my curve low end massively better as was the glide for me at my weight 🙃. Thanks for watching

@youdigsurf thanks for watching yes I was close to going Axis as the range of foils are great and loads of locals riders but the Axis mast is silly money and I really feel a huge difference in performance to the aluminium. Gong has some great wings of offer with this new update I'd there half as good . I like the look of the Dw wing bit need to get a board first .the 7.6 xl crusader is on the list as is a 3.5m wing but that will take some time to save up

@@christomo dont think crusader, there bew shape in surf foil, they probably gonna have new shape in wing board soon.

@youdigsurf yes i think you're right. All the updates will be soon there. They are already teasing with photos and videos, haha . I'm sure the new dw boards will come. And the black and blue colour way on the new boards released, so for this year looks sick as well . I'll be staying on my wing board for at least another year, tho .

@jonip.21 yes who would have thought it's truly a boring purchase but the difference is worth it as everything is easy solid and consistent. All the systems are as good as each other at my level , its with shape and aspect and volume of foils that makes the. Stand out and all the ranges have so many stand out foils . I really thought I might go Axis as well for bit there. The spitty is temping

@AzoreanGliders yes I'll probably get a small one eventually our waves are usally small so I went for a bigger foil. Think all the systems are great and all have a great choice of front foils what a time to live 😀 👏 thanks for watching mate

@wildhogget69 yes everyone seems to love the spitfire especially in the waves I was impressed 👌 not tryed the 960 but I bet it will turn amazing in the wave Andy has just bought that one as well so I hope to try it soon Thanks so much for watching 👀 have a great week mate 👍

@@christomo Just waiting for the wind 😵‍💫🤞🏻

@andybarber7563 look forward to it

Yes i was so impressed by the Eagle and very tempted would love to try the 1190 bet it's a weapon, I have been looking at the Axis for a while as loads of riders in the North East UK are on the system and the spitty is a work of art and the dw foils speak for themselves. But the affordability of an HM mast and full system would be a vast expense. I am happy that the standout was how stiff my system is. I know the others were on alu, but the gong sure held its head high in the performance, so I look forward to the evolution. And the Gong down wind foil looks sweet. Anyway, Grant's new sk8 arived today, so I'm stealing that very soon . Thanks for the first comment and ongoing support and sharing your full stoke bud have a great windy weekend

@@christomo ohhhh new SK8?? Fun! I have an 1150 right now and 2 sessions in, I love it. Sooo smooth. And I got that thing going FAST yesterday. And you know what they say… once you do HM carbon fiber, you never go back! Not actually sure if people say that. You can quote me on it 😜👊👊

I did not realise how spoiled I was , I can tell you it's probably more so for a bigger guy as I can put a lot of force into it . No one wants a floppy one for sure .

Awesome shot of the flyby shame 📷 was out of battery for the tack to footswap foolery. Thanks for watching 👀 wind tomorrow 🙌 🙏

All systems where great different in small ways but same in others for myself as intermediate all the systems are better than I will ever ride them . Thanks so much for watching and commenting ❤️ 😊 have a great weekend

@shanefysh8385 thanks for watching yes it's a top pla e we often go up there surfing and watersports booked a caravan in Sept for a weekend of surf . A stunning part of our coastal area. Thanks again

@targadave yes the new foils and connection look good I keep pricing a new xl veloce and fuse stab really can't afford it tho haha I also need a 3.5m wing for this winter love a dw board the list is long , and no mid-length here just can't find funds . I've always found a front wing to make the most difference on a set up , so I'm interested why you are going to change mast first and not v2 mast adapter to v3 front and v2 back to use existing stabs or v2 mast v3 front and v3 back . Ty mate

@@christomo I’m not really sure which V3 front wing I want to upgrade to. Want to see more reviews first. I was also thinking that they were going to be introducing some more V3 front wings as well. Figured I’d just start with the mast first. I’m a firm believer in ultra stiff low drag HM masts. Also here in the US we pay a duty fee for purchases over $800 usd (at least I think it’s $800). So cheaper not to buy everything at once. Either way I’m not in a rush. My current setup works great, and it’s not like this new gear is going to suddenly make us older blokes ride 10x better🤣

@targadave 👌 cool, good idea 💡 I'm obsessed looking at the veloce h xl and the curve h but already have 3 curve h v2, so I probably go for the Vh in xl We have a bank job planned if you are up for it already. Have a few foilers up for it . we just need a driver

@@christomo 🤣😉

@AzoreanGliders wow that's a big compliment thanks I don't think Gong knows I make these vids haha so fat chance and I'm in uk so makes it hard to send things anyway one of the reasons there is no uk Ambassadors . Yes, the dw foils look great. I was leaning towards a veloce h v2 myself before these came out. Hope they do a plane stab front and fuse package deal. It might take the sting out of buying almost a new system . Again, thanks for watching and kind comments. Have a great week .

@watercrazylion yes I feel the same as you and happy with what I have, but I will probably get something next year as funds allow, I agree with your statement of less resistance in fuse its all good marketing I'm sure the pros can feel the difference but not sure i would 👍over next few years we will slowly move over no doubt,an ever changing sport . Loved reading your opinion 👌 good winds speak soon. I'm sure the general rule would still be a large is a large and a small is a small and some of the models wings have dropped in area some have thicker profiles and reduced spans but I'm pretty sure the model would be same , otherwise it would be to confusing the statement can take a foil smaller would probably be in reference to some models smaller large v2 vs v3 at a guess marketing blurb that's confusing. However im just guessing and not 100%

Oops. You are right regarding changes. The Veloce XL did not change in area but the Fluid XL did, from 1500cm2 in V2 to 1160 in V3! That is a major change!

@watercrazylion the mast position has changed relatively to front wind and the overall fuse lenth is shorter just a few bits I have seen online . I still fancy the veloce but don't know where it all sits in my own quiver to buy the best to go with what I already have Thanks 👍 😊

@@christomo I chose only what I could swallow and mostly after lending somebody else's stuff. I still use my Curve V1 2100cm2 occassionally on the lakes. But mostly go out on my V1 Veloce 1600cm2. Recently I got the Ypra S-XL 1200cm2 and that one needs a lot of wind to fly, for my 90kgs and 3 years of weekly sessions. But my buddy of 70kgs and 6 years (kite) foiling experience flies the YpraS M of 785cm2. How do they do that?

@watercrazylion I also just got the ypra s xl and need 20kn to go I need to try it more to get used to it .

@timtravelnomad yes your totaly spot on there . Personally, I think the intermediate and beginner foils will follow soon and be the same fittings, but the v2 stuff is very good and won world titals, and there are some good deals to be had Thanks for watching and commenting.

Yes sanding will round it off so it fits i also saw his post , however i did see a titanium fuselage in the v2 mast option only for the v3 stab and v3 front wings i double checked . that would be the one i would go for i think . thanks for watching and commenting . good winds buddy

​@@christomo you are right! I didn't see that

@windaddict I studied it for 4 hours, 😄 . I'm a wind addict as well

@@christomo hahaha, nice!!

@jonip.21 😊 😊 thanks 👍 we can all get carried away and forget about our own conditions, ability, and time we have to do and learn all this thanks for commenting 👍

@OCEANBOUND1 the part that breaks it the fuselage seen it on a few brands as the metal fatigues the titanium fuselage will not break it is so stiff it would not bend . But titanium is heavy buy ok in a small section as in the fuse also it is hollow to reduce weight . All the fse options are to make it compatable with all the older masts front wings and rear foils however who would buy a new version mast and put old wings on it i just dont see it but each to there own .Thanks for watching bud 👍 have a awesome weekend

@blooskyy7 yes I too will buy I to it eventually as I can using the v2 mast I currently have thanks so much for the support and commenting 😀 good winds mate

@mylife.5638 thanks hope it helps a few confused about it from a none ambassador 😀

@izno-r2y hope you are well. Thanks for watching. I can be riding on the curve h xxl from 12 to 20kn and curve h xl from 15kn to 25kn. I use both with a large size freestyle stab to shorten fuse and liven them up , with a 86 cm mast and titanium fuse . For lower winds, I would be tempted to say xxl curve h. I would maybe say to wait to see what new wings are like, I am guessing next few weeks for release 😀. I'm my opinion. The xxl xover won't be holding you back from doing jibes and perseverance learning another 5 sessions to dial them in won't hurt . Try a second-hand kite stab or a small fluid stab to liven the xover up while you wait to decide on the new wing update . However, the curve h in xl is my favourite foil so far in a good wind. Low stall speed gets up early and glides well . Hope this helps some .

Just a note I had the xover v1 xxl and when I bought the curve h xl I never used the xover again It was 1 session to get used to the curve h as you have to generate a little more forward speed to fly Hope it helps

@@christomo Yeah i don't mind using the X-over a little more. I am just a little eager for the next step :) Based on your wind ranges i guess Curve H XXL would be more appropriate for my spot. I will wait the next few weeks and if nothing happens i think im going for the Curve H XXL. Appreciate your help, thank you very much !

@izno-r2y anytime a pleasure, I learned my gybes and footswaps on the xover, and I found a small stab made it more manoeuvrable worth a thought they pop up for 30 ,40 euros while you wait . Goods winds .

I will comment here so I would remind you of our conversation. You were right about the new system in the end. Right now though, they kinda changed the surface area and as they said "On average you can go for 200 cm2 less surface area than with the previous generation for equal lift." So in regards of the previous XXL curve h which was 1600cm2 now we have again the XXL with 1370+200? So I should stick in your opinion with 2xl or shall I move with 3xl? I will also ask the contract support, but I would like also your opinion here. Great video once again and thank you for your time.

@@SteveMarshall-l3g sure was roll on next time

@windaddict yes if they change to an oval, I will be a bit slow to change as well because I just got the titanium a few months back .Also To my eye, the mast looks a bit further back from the front foil, but I've only seen the picture that Patrice posted . I also just bought the yapra s in xl its faster but I feel I'm comming off foil when doing tacks maybe I'm not going in to them fast enough 😊

@blooskyy7 no confirmed reports just yet and this is just my opinion but from the photos I showed in video that where shared on fb, and as I say it's just speculation, but it looks like it would be released as all the foils are sold out and on sale and we are over due but in the photo you can clearly see a oval fuse connection. Looks like it's with the standard mast well I really would hope so . I am awaiting confirmation and the release of more info as well with crossed fingers 🤞 Ha e a great week

Yes, I got to keep it intact thanks the mother nature .shame gopro flattens waves but you know what its like ,it was in my top 5 days for sure .roll on the next one. I hope you're well 🙏 😊 Speak soon

@jonip.21 thanks John we need more days like that for sure 🙏 👍

@andybarber7563 one of the better days just a bit underpowered at times but no complaints 👌 . Hope you are getting a few in Wales?

Couple of Days at Rhossy first day was great conditions then second was flat water, that was Wednesday Thursday last week, nothing after that but had great time, back Wednesday and free onwards for Northumberland Rd trip 🤞🏻👍🏻🏄‍♂️

@andybarber7563 I'm free Thurs Fri but graft Sat tho . Enjoy Wales 😉

@glimpseireland2005 I keep thinking about starting a Facebook group for gear addiction . Yes tbh curve H is still my favourite foil or the spitfire from axis . In 5 years time we will all be on radically different equipment.by then I would like to see brands making masts universal size and fittings less landfill . Thanks for watching 👀 have a great week 😀

@savmf thanks Sav mate