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Tbh, it’s not really relevant. The only thing that matters is his pivot foot.

Honestly, I would get away from the horizontal and vertical wording and just go with the word parallel. If the pitchers pivot foot is parallel to the pitching rubber they are in the set/stretch position (there is no declaring in high school). So in this instance, if the pitcher was to perform a windup type motion, then it would be an illegal pitch. All that matters is their pivot foot in relation to the pitching rubber. Vertical would only matter if you're doing a college or OBR game (OBR being some summer tournaments). they do have the restriction that a pitcher using the set stance has to have both their feet in the confines of the pitching rubber, which would draw vertical lines from the edges of the rubber towards the plate, but high school got rid of that a couple years ago and I don't think they've changed it back because the quality of the fields can vary drastically.

@@itissoldier7837 I was referring to the free foot.

@ Yes, I know, and thus why I said to get away from the vertical and horizontal wording. All that matters to NFHS is if the pivot foot is parallel to the pitching plate. All other restrictions regarding the pitchers feet that do exist under OBR rule don't matter under NFHS (From my understanding) again because they changed it several years ago and I don't believe they changed it back. The reasoning is because the quality of fields was questionable and restricting the pitch to have to have their feet in certain positions, sometimes made it impossible to pitch off certain mounds. All that matters to NHFS is the pitcher has to have their pivot foot in contact with the rubber even if it's just their toe, And depending on if it's parallel to the rubber or not determines if they're in set(stretch) or windup. The free foot doesn't matter under NFHS.

@@itissoldier7837 I understand. The issue relates to balk moves.

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Personally, I would inform the pitcher and then communicate it to the coach and then give the coach the opportunity to go talk to his player to correct the issue. If any questions occur or needs to be explained further I would do it with the pitcher and a coach both presents explaining the exact issue the pitcher is doing that is illegal but I'm also not going to give them an answer to correct the issue (we can't coach). Usually by that point I would be out by the mound communicating to the coach if the change they made is now legal (I'm not coaching the player). Best example would be say you have a pitcher who's pitching in the wind up and has his foot parallel to the rubber. I would explain to the pitcher that's illegal and then explain to the coach and then give the coach the opportunity to correct the pitchers stance. I would explain what parallel is if they needed it but I'm not gonna tell the pitcher how to stand by having his foot pointed directly at the plate doing or a 45° angle other than when he is now not performing any illegal stance. Again we can't be the one that coaches the player. Now an obvious caveat at least for me is if you're at like a middle school game with no steaks, then I probably will give a little bit more information being that it's hit or miss on the coaches you get and some usually being a parent/teacher who are there just so the kids can play. I find it more beneficial in that situation to actually teach a little bit because then it just makes it so when you get those kids at a varsity level, they already know the rules. But if I'm at varsity game I ain't telling them how to fix it outside of the direct wording of the rule they're breaking. They have to come up with their own answer. If the issue continues after that point then it's just a balk called every single time until they correct the issue or change the pitcher.

In GA props are allowed in the dugout unless they become an issue during the game.

@@downsouthrailroad9143 Interesting again the reason why I ask is because what he says is field, but the way the emphasis was put out, put it at the event which would include the dugout. But I would say if your rules interpreter says its that way then that's the way it goes.

Sorry for the confusion! We (at least in Georgia) would not consider it an issue in the dugout. But, being in the dugout doesn’t protect them from still violating sportsmanship rules. But again, mileage on this may vary from state to state.

@@UmpireClassroom @downsouthrailroad9143 Thank you both for your clarification.

@@UmpireClassroom and downsouthrailroad9143 Thank you both for your clarification.

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Yes the coach can request multiple appeals so long as he is appealing different things and it's "making a travesty of the game."

@@UmpireClassroom Does "different things" mean different baserunners? In a bases loaded scenario with a grand slam over the fence, if the baserunner who missed home plate is R2, and the coach initially appeals that R3 missed the plate and the umpire signals safe, and the coach then says R1 and the umpire signals safe again, then the coach says R2 and the umpire signals out, what is the point of requiring the coach to identify the baserunner who missed home plate if he can just appeal every baserunner until he gets it right?

If he knows a kid missed home, but isn't sure which, he'd have to run the list till it hits and that's fine. But if his strategy is to keep asking every time to see if he gets lucky, that would be considered making a travesty of the game. Which is mentioned in the rules as a reason to warn and potentially eject

@@UmpireClassroom Thanks for the clarification -- I would NOT want to be the umpire if the defensive coach misidentifies the baserunner in his first appeal, I call him safe, and he does not know he can simply appeal again with the other baserunners. I might be inclined to give him the raised eyebrow "do you have anything else" look to prompt him -- or would that violate the umpire directive to not do or say anything that gives one team and advantage over the other?

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Yep!

@@UmpireClassroom it’s important that a clear line be drawn and communicated. I wonder how many umpires leave out the warning regarding a return back to the diamond after a crew conference.

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Good question. Any action not directly caused by the illegal bat would stand.

I interpret this as the illegal bat would have to be reported before the subsequent pitch to remove the runner that stole the base. So in your scenario we could return the runner to first if the illegal bat is reported prior to pitch number two or return him to second prior to pitch number four. If it’s reported after the sixth (or subsequent) pitch then he gets to stay at third.

When the batter comes to the plate the umpire should inspect the bat before use just so these situations don't happen.

@ No, the umpire certainly should not. There's preventative umpiring, and then there's this idea. Trouble will find us easily enough without us having to go look for it.

@ We already do this preliminarily at the plate meeting when we ask the question "Are all players legally and properly equipped?" and we require a verbal answer from each coach.

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In theory, I guess a substance could alter the spin? That said, if coaches decide to be jerks about it this year, I could see them changing it.

Patrick, aren’t we talking about pine tar on a bat? If the pine tar is more than 18” above the handle it provides no advantage to the hitter. Are you saying the ball off the bat may be affected? I did not consider such a phenomenon.

​@@rayray4192Because such a phenomenon is such an absurd premise that the other two rule sets get the rule right and don't call the batter out. But somehow NFHS knows better than MLB and NCAA. 🤦‍♂️

pin tar on the bat above 18 inches, who gets the advantage of the pin tar on the ball? rhetorical