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Thank you for the insightful comment. Safe diving!

Oh I remember!

I appreciate that you have been diving for over 30 years. However, are you an instructor? As for divers kneeling being more constructive and productive, I vehemently disagree. It is not hard to get divers to begin working on buoyancy and trim as soon as the mask skills and reg recovery skills are done in the pool. The very next thing is to work on being neutral and in trim. Part of that could be making changes to the kit so they are diving a more balanced rig or just making the proper body position adjustments. In my experience, it is people who have never taught neutral buoyancy from the start or that have never been in an environment where it is heavily focused on, that believe they need to plant divers on the bottom in order to control them and facilitate learning. Teaching on the knees gives students bad habits, a couple of which I discussed in the video, which then need to be broken in order for them to advance much further. Conversations around these subjects is always good for the industry and we appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. Safe diving!

Well, I guess the algorithm isn't all bad then. LOL Happy to hear it made sense to you. I am planning on doing anther video on how to maximize efficiency of the kick and also do a video on the back kick which is one many people struggle with. Thanks for watching and safe diving!

Thank you! I can't tell you how many times divers have come to dive with us and told us that they do not remember how to setup their gear. These same people dive quite frequently but always have someone who does it for them. This is why I tell our divers that they need to set it up themselves but I will be here to answer any questions for them. Valet diving might be great for some but it is a disservice to most divers.

Thanks for taking the time to comment and we agree that it should be prioritized over the current method used by most agencies. Safe diving!

If diving is taught properly, with the focus being on foundational skills, a course for buoyancy does not need to exist. It is the lack of focus on proper buoyancy and trim that causes the need for an additional course. This is done on purpose to create additional revenue sadly. Thank you for taking the time to comment and we wish you safe diving.

Thank you!!!

You just love to be negative. But let me explain something you clearly do not understand, in the UK, the term sport is defined and used as and I quote: "all types of physical activity that people do to keep healthy or for enjoyment" Therefore, scuba diving would be labeled a sport. Our instructor speaking in the video is Polish but spent many years in the UK, hence the use of that term. The funny part to me is, I agree with most of what you said about diving and how it is marketed but highly disagree with your approach in this comment.

Paranadive, You claiming I’m being negative is a fallacious gaslighting attempt. I focus on safety, and promoting the highest of standards in education and training. The fact is, conflating diving as a “sport” promotes the wrong image of what diving actually is, and the adopted psychological mentality cultivated within divers as they pursue diving, which doesn’t take it as seriously as they should, and puts themselves at higher risk or they develop lower quality KSA’s. Diving is not a sport.

Hi B! I will work on that as the next video in the series. Thank you again for suggesting these videos for us to react to.

We appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment Andy! Safe diving!

Absolute best piece of kit I own other than my Shearwater. Glad you love them as much as I do!

Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and comment. I can tell you spent time analyzing each step of the process outlined in the video. I would like to address your disagreements as I believe your thought process was a bit flawed. You first mention blowing bubbles is an important part of the emergency procedure for when divers run out of gas. Running out of gas is a symptom of poor gas management and the understanding of proper gas management. Our divers taking the Open Water course can, by the completion of the course, tell their dive buddy their gas, within 5 bar, just by looking at their depth and dive time on the computer. I came up with a method to teach divers proper gas management and recognition that is simple. They should never run out of gas because they know at all times how much they have. As for developing the habit of blowing bubbles, in the video I mention he did not blow bubbles when switching regs. We do teach how important it is to blow bubbles but then again, the golden rule of never hold your breath is a lie we tell new divers. The actual golden rule is never hold your breath while ascending. Your next "argument" states you may not have two hands to switch regs. No one needs two hands to switch regs. All reg switching is done with one hand and is a skill all our divers learn, from Open Water to tech training. Yes, I cut out the restowing of the alternate. Not because he struggled with it, it is not hard to do at all. But It was cut because it did not add anything to the overall video other than to lengthen it. You watched and assumed it was cut due to it being hard, that was not the case at all. Also, if stowing the backup is hard, then I suggest it is a skill that one needs to practice more until it is not hard. You then go on to mention that the backup reg or AAS is for your buddy and invent a disaster scenario where your reg is dislodged at the exact same time your buddy runs out air. How many times have you seen this happen? It is also planning for compounding failures, which is not taught in the Open Water course. Compounding failures, evaluating and then ranking those failures from most critical to least critical is part of technical training. The risk you mention is something I have never seen or heard of happening. The ergonomics of the hose routing I found to be interesting as both the primary and alternate come off the same side of the first stage. The difference is only in the hose length so I would not say that the primary is routed more ergonomically. Also, the longer the hose, the easier it is to recover as it hangs down quite far and is easy to see. The alternate should also being flowing well as we do a S-drill no deeper than 6m where we switch regs to ensure that both are working fine underwater. Also, the primary was working fine when it left your mouth, and here you are making an assumption that it is still working after being dislodged. I am going to guess that you do not train your divers to purge the reg prior to putting it back in their mouth to make sure it is still working which is what should be done anytime a reg that is not currently in your mouth, is about to be placed into your mouth. Your next assessment has a massive flaw where you say our divers were never trained to blow bubbles. But you stated earlier that I mentioned blowing bubbles multiple times in the video. Trust me, our divers know that they need to blow bubbles. Now as for hose entanglement, I will address the elephant in the room first. No open water diver, remember that is what this video is about, should ever be in a confined space! Full stop! I have taught all our divers to swap regs this way and never have I seen a hose entanglement. I appreciate the critical thinking but you may be creating issues where there are none. Just like dislodging the AAS when sweeping for the primary. This is something that has never happened or even come close to happening. Lastly, yes, when the reg comes out, that becomes your top priority. So grab a reg that is easy to find and take a couple sanity breaths. Many times, if a new diver gets the reg dislodged, this creates a bit of panic. Maybe not full active panic but a small bit of passive panic tends to set in. Grabbing that alternate and taking those sanity breaths allows a diver to calm down prior to problem solving. This is something that tech divers, tech instructors as well as all CCR divers and instructors understand. Sanity breaths can be a huge help. So why not teach our recreational divers the same things? Why keep that good info and practice all to ourselves? Also, what is a "reasonable amount of time" to search for your primary? Is it when panic starts to set in because you can't find it and have blown too many bubbles and need a breath? Do they know they can switch to their alternate if they do not find the primary in a "reasonable amount of time"? They only know this if they are trained to do it. What is not in this video is what I and our staff teach the students, which is that if you can find the primary right away, great! But there is no need to search for it, maybe making two sweeps of the arm because you missed it the first time, all while blowing bubbles, when you have a perfectly good reg sitting in a place that is easily accessible. This gives them options, which you kind of mentioned in the last part but it gives them options they are 100% trained on and repeated multiple times during the course. Again, thank you for taking the time for such a thorough response. I believe it is conversations like these that make us all better. Safe diving- Turk and the Prana Team

@pranadive Thanks so much for taking the time to reply in such detail! It’s clear you’ve put a lot of thought into developing your methods over time, and I really respect that. I think the disagreements here are pretty minor and subtle - I’m definitely not looking to spark an argument, just to have a constructive discussion. That said, I do think there are a few things worth unpacking. "They should never run out of gas because they know at all times how much they have." This really caught my attention! While I completely agree that gas management is crucial, I feel like there’s more to it. Equipment malfunctions - like a faulty SPG - can throw off even the best gas planning. Without a working SPG, it’s impossible to gauge your remaining air accurately, and that risk can’t always be avoided, especially with rental gear. Switching regulators one-handed is a great skill to teach, but I noticed in the video it wasn’t demonstrated that way. Was there a reason for showing it with separate hands for each reg? About blowing bubbles: I know your divers “know” they should do it, but I wonder if they actively train it enough? In stressful situations, we all tend to fall back on muscle memory, and unless bubble-blowing becomes a drilled habit, it’s easy to forget. I think training divers to handle situations where multiple things go wrong in quick succession, like blowing bubbles while managing priorities, is invaluable. For example, if I lose my primary reg while helping my buddy - who’s on my alternate after an O-ring blew - I know I can blow bubbles and calmly recover the primary while ascending. That bit of panic when the reg pops out is exactly what training is there to address. It helps us trust that there’s time, and we can work through the situation instead of reacting instinctively. I totally get your point about re-stowing the alternate being a skill - and I agree it’s something divers should be comfortable with! That said, I think fast primary regulator retrieval is even more fundamental. I admit that the example of the alternate popping out during a sweep might be a little contrived, but I think it’s fair to assume that something in the environment - like strong currents or other complications - has already made regulators more prone to being dislodged. I also agree with your point about divers needing to switch to the alternate if they struggle with recovery. I think this should absolutely be practiced during training drills so it becomes second nature if needed. Thanks again for this thoughtful discussion - it’s been great to hear your perspective! I always enjoy learning from different instructors and seeing how we all work toward the same goal of safer and more confident divers.

Good to hear that you picked up some high quality gear from Andrew! Yes, I have seen the other buckle. Looks good but I enjoy how my waist bungee currently connects with cave arrow. Makes me happy even if no one else ever sees it or notices it. Let us know what you think after you take the course and look for video coming soon of me diving this system.

I agree that O2 is probably the most important. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Thank you very much for the kind words!

According to the National Institutes of Health , survival with just CPR is around 9% and that increases to 24% with an AED and 38% with delivery of a shock. We never said use of AED with or without CPR. We were stating the fact about an AED, which is indeed 10% per minute. Yes that is without CPR but it is nonetheless 10%. And yes, we are very familiar with High Quality Chest Compression and early AED use. Hence the reason we have an AED.

You are diving sidemount, as do I most of the time, However, I still stand by the computer on the right. I use my left for the SMB and my right for checking my depth. Training the same way in all configurations means you don't need to develop new muscle memory. Thanks for watching and commenting. Safe diving!

@ I am left-handed and hold the DSMB in my right hand, but I can read depth off either computer.

😂 Oh we are very mortal here! Just put in a lot of work to improve ourselves. Thank you for watching and safe diving.

@@pranadive ♥💙💛💚🧡

It isn't good that you experienced that but glad to hear they fixed the issue, even if it took a couple of years.

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.

They hold up very well, unlike the other brands out there that might look similar. I am the same as they are the only ones I recommend and I take recommending a brand very serious.

Thank you!!

Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch it. If you had, you would have seen and heard that we do not teach on the knees, ever! At 1 minute in I say that we do not dive kneeling so why would you teach a diver like that. Sure, primary donate is a great option and likely the better option but your claim that secondary donate has never worked is just plain wrong and is just hyperbole. I love backplate wings to say jackets are worthless is again, hyperbole. Most dive centers in the world use them so therefore they are not useless as they in fact are being used. Are they superior? Yes they are and it does make teaching easier but the jacket BCD will never go away. Dive centers would have to get rid of all their rental gear and replace it. All at a loss because if no one is going to dive jacket BCDs, then there is no way to recoup that loss. I believe you mean well but dealing in absolutes and hyperbole is dangerous.

@@pranadive No. I did, indeed, watch the entire video before commenting. I agreed with your assessment to never teach on the knees. Don't be so offended as to assume the worst automatically when you read something. No, secondary donate does not work, and has never worked in real-life events. I stand by my statement. And yes, absolutely, jacket BC's are worthless garbage. I never said they would go away, but they are still worthless garbage. Here too, I stand by my statement.

@@pinnacledivingco Oh no one on the internet can offend me. And I did not assume anything. You said and I quote " that he was on his knees. Instantly wrong there. Never teach on the knees. Ever. Not even on the very first confined water session." That statement would not need to be made if you indeed did know that we do not teach that way. As for the secondary donate, your statement is not factual. I know a diver who saved another using his secondary therefore it has worked in a real-world situation. Is the best choice? No it is not which is why I used to dive primary donate when I did single cylinder backmount dives but I don't dive single cylinders anymore.

Yes I am.

Thank you! Let me know if you ever head this way so we can go on some dives together.

@@pranadive Would be great, where are you located?

@@iesfokiwa8028 Amed, Bali, Indonesia

@@pranadive If i come that way for sure i let you know before. greetz and stay safe!

No, no he wasn't.

@@pranadive 2:12 😂 Don't know if his brains are in his feet or something

Also called a lark's head.

Thank you. Happy to hear someone gets my odd humor. LOL Come see us if you make it to Bali and we will take good care of you!