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A friend of mine joined the German branch of LDS and I hope to find moments to talk a reflect with him in a friendly matter. He believes in Christ, but it feels much confusing right now and I really don't know where he is staying with LDS teachings. Thank you for your good example and if you doubt yourself, I think this reflects better for the kingdom of Christ and your spiritual wisdom, that you cared and loved them in this phone call. God bless you and those 3.

Actually, the confession started with Joseph Warren… who was the vocalist of the band. Micah denied it at first but was forced to confess after Joseph showed proof

I live next to some LDS. The Lord gave me a chance to speak Biblical Truth to them about 15 years ago. I asked Jesus to give the wife understanding. He did. I'll never forget the way she said, "Oh!" After I read Isaiah 43:10; 44:6-8. And after that the entire family started shunning me. They built a 25ft chicken cage and got a rooster. They placed that thing under our bedroom window in a fairly new residential neighborhood. I didn't sleep for 9 days. I prayed for the farm animals to go away. God used the city codes and the HOA to get the animals away. I have been told that I was a subject in that household for a while. I have been threatened with litigation to stop going door-to-door by them. Since I live in America, that came to nothing. I still pray for this family to repent and turn to Christ.

28:25 Travis: “You’re talking to kids who don’t understand what you’re talking about.” Does Travis (or one his minions) intend to intervene in every difficult challenge that these trained (yes, they go through training) missionaries encounter? My gosh, let them do their job. The organization got to the size it is today with the work of missionaries just like these kids without any help from people like Travis. Obviously, the LDS leaders regarded these missionaries as sufficiently prepared and felt confident in sending them out to the mission field. How many LDS missionaries are out there at any given moment - 50,000? 60,000? Does Travis seriously think he can micromanage this extensive project? He’s treating these poor kids like ignorant infants, and his hubris is off the charts. The LDS corporation needs to reign this guy in - he’s damaging the organization’s reputation more than he is helping.

There was a discussion about "The Cavalry" on the Mormonish podcast a couple of months ago: ruclips.net/video/6mCO06b180I/видео.html

Disagreement between religious groups is the ridiculousness of all religion writ large.

Your simplicity plus Holy Spirit is probably better than his intelligences mixed with pride Depends on the judge though I pretend to be arrogant and smart, but I am neither I just get the conversation to my wheel house to sound smart , he likely does the same Debates are often just about sounding smart and appearing smart

When you record things you end up talking completely differently, knowing there’s a different audience listening Even if both people known it’s recorded, it lacks the genuine intimacy of no recording most the time I like both recorded and not recorded But not recorded , there’s something special about it

I just watched another interaction with Ryan/Travis. He's so angry. I genuinely feel bad for him: ruclips.net/video/4IRTde2luzM/видео.html And in this video, in the first 15 seconds, Travis is referenced as "infamous Ryan": ruclips.net/video/nOOSBWJDmTk/видео.html

The apologist is correct. Lds don’t need “biblical” support. They follow the prophet.

The movie at 27:20 is “The Truman Show” 😊

What do you except from Agents of Satan = Mormons.

This hit me on a personal level and I hope you highlight the behaviour further. People like Ryan can damage these kids self esteem, confidence and cause all kinds of trauma, that’s how it starts. I grew up in the church and had people like him including my father lead me being coercively controlled and financially abused as well as making me feel like a piece of crap that wouldn’t amount to anything. It’s taken years to over come it. But his behaviour- innocently or not is causing damage and it’s abuse.

I'm not sure you understand what presuppositional apologetics is.

37:37, actually, some can, by the spiritual gift of discernment. It is the persons choice to be honest or not, and the Lord knows their honesty and will pour out or withhold blessings accordingly.

33:16 It would be more accurate to say that Christianity itself was in a state of apostasy because they had rejected, at least for the most part, the apostolic authority to receive, interpret, and canonize new scripture on behalf of the entire church and rather than wait for new apostles to seek the Lord's will on what to include, and how to interpret it they decided for themselves what texts were inspired, and therefore scripture, and which ones weren't.

Going in with intent to oppose shows you werent willing to ask God and prayer. It doesn't matter who believes what, the only way to receive truth is by asking god directly. Everything (including scriptures) can be corrupted by moth and man. Some other things to be aware of, The native Americans themselves are releasing their records now (because no one is listening, not even the lds church at the moment) . Thier records come in support of the book of Mormon (1) the nemenhah records (book, second complete edition) (2) the birch bark scrolls (under translation now). See chief Midegah of the ojibwe nation. Seek God, not contention. Remember also luke 9:49-50 "those who aren't against me are for me " jesus tells off his apostles for not being tolerant of other people who were doing similar things.

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. There's always one in every bunch. Many things have happened in history that aren't recorded, sadly. The only way we can ever know something is to pray and ask for ourselves. That's the only way I could move forward. I do know the Book of Mormon is true through the Holy Ghost, but I also believe the lds church is a separate issue. Again, the only way past any differences in understanding is through direct personal revelation from God. Some other good books to check. (1) the nemenhah records (book, second complete edition) released by the native Americans themselves in support of the church (but not accepted by the church). It also supports the book of Mormon (2) the gospel of kailedy (from Britain, Glastonbury Abbott) (3) the silk road gospel (from china) (4) acts 29. (5) the birch bark scrolls (see chief midegah) it also supports the book of Mormon. (Also, the missionaries should have had a chance to speak) But again, any verse can be interpreted any way. Although I like the bible, if you have studied it, you'll know how it's also an abridgement and has had alterrations. Again, ask a specific question of God. Regardless of apostacies, one should go to God. God confirmed the NEMENHAH RECORDS to me via a vision before, during, and after reading it. I'm not native American, but christ himself told me, "Don't persecute my people, the nemenhah." But also, it sounds like you came with the intent to oppose instead of pray. This video doesn't even show you having good intentions from the beginning. This is why contention happened.

31:17 in the context of apologetic argument. Missionaries are basically doctrinal tourguides. They know enough to guide interested people on a journey of discovery pertaining to the teachings, doctrines, and principles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, with the goal being conversion to the faith. They are not equipped to handle doctrinally intense conversations with a person who is not interested in joining the church.

29:55 because "proof-text" is a misnomer. Texts don't prove anything. However, they can be used to support an idea or concept. Amos 8:11 supports the idea of a withdrawal of prophetic utterances as a condition that accompanies apostasy.

23:49 Scriptures demonstrate and display divine patterns. If, in judging Israel, for their rejection of the prophets and their idolatry, God removes his spoken word from amongst them, why then would, or could, he not remove his spoken words from amongst his new covenant people the Christians by taking the apostolic authority away?

15:40 Yet the NT Church under the apostles recognized that that scripture had dual fulfillment, once in David and again in the Messiah in a more complete or full way.

14:27 Because the context of the Bible itself does not exist. The Bible is not a singular volume of scripture. It is a compilation or library of acriptures that must each be analyzed independently.

Oh I recognize this guys voice. I’ve seen a video of him arguing with (Aaron Shafavolov) or however you spell it 😂 he’s super contentious and disrespectful. I think Aaron did an excellent job keeping his cool with this guy

12:23 agreed Amos isn't referring to the apostasy after the apostles future death's. What this actually serves as is evidence God can take away his word. He said "I will send a famine in the land... Of hearing the word of the Lord." Let's see what 2 Thessalonians says "the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition." Idk how you miss this part that Christ's second coming won't happen without a falling away first. Paul did just say that. And the Protestant movement is evidence there was an apostasy and the apostolic priesthood was lost and needed to be restored. Protestants have no priesthood. We can see apostasy was happening. Even Paul told Timothy "For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia. 11 Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry. Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our wordsAt my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me." Are you actually going to suggest the church didn't reject the apostles? Clearly it was happening before Paul's execution as we see here.

I understand Amos 8 and Micah 3 to be specific prophecies regarding the 400 years of Inter-Testamental silence between the Tanakh and the coming of Christ, for which Malachi 4 describes the signs indicating the end of the period and the beginning of Israel's judgement. Jesus states that "the gates of Hell will not prevail" against His church, so the idea of a great apostasy post-resurrection would necessarily call Jesus's credibility into question.

Travis should be more forgiving when “chomp” is used instead of “champ” (both are acceptable in modern vernacular, by the way), and pay more attention to correcting his own spelling and grammar.

18:50 There are no such things as “Bible-based” Christians, you only have your interpretation of what the Bible means to you. For example, I, a LDS believe I am a Bible-based Christian. But that’s no more true of me than you. We all renegotiate with scripture, this is what the NT writers and church fathers did. Of course Latter-day Saints are going to give you a LDS interpretation of scripture. We all “negotiate” with scripture differently. There are different paradigm. A Jewish person reads the scriptures different than a Christian, a Unitarian different than a Trinitarian etc. You see this in the New Testament when NT writers rip verses out of context and apply them to the Messiah, when originally they were sang or read to a Davidic king. The Church cites scriptures to give examples of the principle of apostasy. But remember, the Bible doesn’t have to say anything. Just because the Bible doesn’t say X does not necessarily make it untrue.

19:30 oh man. 🤦🏻‍♂️ this is awful. Sorry to hear you met someone like this. I have a family member diagnosed as a clinical narcissist. Many signs here of that going on. Sorry to hear.

Anti Christ's teach there is no Christ 😂. You definitely teach there is a Christ 😂😂😂

🤦🏻‍♂️Oh boy. Sorry you went through this. No one has perfect member's that's why we need a savior. You and I have talked about speaking on the phone. I'm OK with recording the call for accountability. I definitely know you're not an anti-christ 😂. We've spoken enough. You're a good guy who genuinely cares about people's salvation.

The Jim Carrey meme is from The Truman Show. It's his response to his wife suddenly doing a product placement advertisement. Also, champ at the bit came first, but chomp has been accepted almost as long.

Ah! Now I know why missionaries invited someone else to the last of our meetings a few years ago. I wasn’t welcomed back again…

That man Connor has a face you would want to slap like vast majority of Cult Mormons, it be the equivalent to slapping the face of Satan as you would be slapping 1 of his children. Fact.

What do you make of 1 Timothy 4:16? Is that blasphemous, or can we really have part in the salvation of others?

Mike Winger liked seeing your cat a lot too😂

Travis didn’t post your conversation on his channel?

Dave is Travis Anderson

I wish you would interview (well known Mormon since The Chosen began) Derral Eves. He does say he is a Christian but deep in his Mormon faith.

As a lds member, Sounds like the missionaries got played by dave just as much as you did. Im sorry about your experience. Dave is being a dingus

I will rest in Christ finished work and his righteousness. Galatians 2:15-21

Jesus said in Matthew 22: 23-33 there will be no marriage in heaven .

I'm pretty sure one of the questions missionaries have to answer before being allowed to go on a mission is something like, Are you honest in all your dealings. And yet here they are being dishonest to avoid facing the truth that they either don't know about or refuse to believe.

Thank you for this video. That was beautiful

awwwww kitty!!!

This discussion is very good; however I always have a problem with the basics, such as who God is, where He came from, Jesus and Satan are brothers, the trinity is three separate beings, eternal marriage-none of this is in the Bible, just in LDS books. From what I understand LDS only believe the Bible is accurate as far as it has been translated correctly.

I deleted my Facebook account years ago. Way too many weirdoes on it.

Mormon missionaries are clowns..LOL

don’t sweat it. Mormons are gay anyways

Beloved brother, Lucifer wears many hats and has many faces… you have been attacked by Satan, no doubt… stand firm in your faith, young man, and believe Jesus is with you in all ways you believe… I am so sorry this happened… rebuke all evil around you, in Jesus’s Name, and continue to stand firm…much love from Florida panhandle… live in love and abide in faith… 💜🙏❤️🙏