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honestly, getting any sort of advice towards dealing with them consistently helps a ton since they're kind of the bane of my existence compared to every other enemy in the game (not counting the funny skating bow things). i'll probably make use of it and test out to see how well it works in future playthroughs, though. also, ty for all of the comments you have left! hearing stuff from others on how to optimize things is great to hear, and it also gives others who may decide to scroll through everything some advice as well. thanks again :D

@@SquaredNull No prob man. I just started watching your content, but I'm genuinely impressed with what I see. They also really seem to hate Angi and Rudra. I'm gonna be starting up another playthrough today, so I can test this myself within a matter of hours, but hopefully that helps too.

oh i understand that. it's the main reason why i pointed it out in the first place. as a certifiable motorcycle weapon enjoyer, i have an obligation to point out any time dante uses one.

i honestly never really read the descriptions of the items i pick up in the older dmc games, so i should probably do that. kind of makes me realize that i may have missed some cool info. tbh, after hearing this i want some of that fruit too...

seriously? i never even thought about the possibility of using the door hands as a way to gain charge like that. i'm honestly pretty average at dmc3, so getting information like this really does help out should i do runs like that!

@SquaredNull you do a hell of a lot better than me, and I been playing on an off for about 20 years now.

unfortunately, i wasn't playing on dmd since i'm not some god-tier player with dmc3. i only had the difficulty set to hard to imitate what a 'first playthrough' of the original game would be like (minus the yellow orb thing because arbitrary reasons i guess).

@SquaredNull by the way bro what u did requires Skill🗿

factual

basically, but technically the order of it doesn't matter. as long as those specific three are done in any order, the entire segment can be left. obv this changes if you're going for the blue orb fragment as that requires a full completion of all of the bosses but i didn't do that this time around.

@SquaredNull oh okay

@SquaredNull thx

yeah, some people definitely are a lot more committed to the most insane stuff out there than i am. but regardless of that, i really hope you manage to get through not only that current mission but the rest of the game as well! sounds like it's going to be quite a journey...

honestly, i get it considering how much it's mentioned just about everywhere, but i feel like it's not an issue of awareness here as i think it's pretty well understood that guns in dmc2 are the weakest in the series. it's more so the fact that dmc2 just has some rather poor design choices regarding fight encounters and arena layouts that makes guns a preferred choice on top of the movement and animations being clunky. anyway, i had only made this video as a way to try out editing ideas which is why it's not really something that has a ton of depth or is the most creative thing in the world. i understand the dislike of stuff like this, and whenever (if at all) i go back to dmc2 i'd probably try a bit more to find something 'out' there rather than just random test stuff on my end.

while it's been a bit since i last viewed my dmc2 vid, i swore that i may or may not have done that with only rebellion as it was melee only and i thought that worked the best. but...i could be thinking of something else. maybe.

That's easy wdym

plz oh god oh no the game is becoming self-aware help D:

it's definitely true i could have attempted this on dmd and then adding in stuff like ng+, but typically when i go for challenge stuff i stick with what a 'default' run would be like if you were playing the game after picking it up right away. obviously, it's limited by a lot of stuff. mentioning other points, like air raid and the like, are good ideas, but my arbitrary definition of a 'gun' was anything that resembles a gun (except for the grenade launcher because it's the dmc1 grenade launcher). anyway, ty for the suggestions :D

ball :D

yeah, it's basically that. unfortunately since jump cancelling is just *that* good in dmc3, it's hard to avoid using it with stuff like agni & rudra and beowulf. if i do another dmc3 challenge, i likely will avoid doing it all, but i wanted to at least do it here to showcase it to those unfamiliar.

@@SquaredNull I think a style-only run would be interesting. No attacking, shooting, maybe not even jumping. only the style button. Or maybe you can attack and shoot if you have Trickster active but you can't dodge or jump without the various Trick skills. For Dante in 4 and 5 it's probably a lot easier since you can switch styles but still would be an odd way to play. I also think trying to see how many secret missions are possible would be fun for these challenges

@@velvetbutterfly style only stuff is a pretty nice idea to try at some point. dmc3 would be a bit awkward since stuff like trickster can't do damage normally, and royal guard is limited to that entire gimmick it has, but the others would be interesting to mess with. technically, if i were to play on the switch version, there would be style switching without mods but i'd rather not play on a completely different version just for the sake of that. maybe, anyway. regardless, i should try to add in some bits involving secret missions just for the sake of it, as i typically skip them most of the time due to them being mostly optional content (with the exception of dmc2 since i thought i'd need more health for that stuff). whatever i do for dmc4 will likely be a bit strange due to the two character thing going on with the game, but it should be fun to figure out some sort of hybridized challenge. ty for the ideas, though!

apparently nightmare was up to a lot of things during its existence. or as it is existing. idk, probably both.

the first part is very tempting tbh. i've been trying to figure out something to do with nero, as there's a few dante ideas already, but this just might work. i'll keep the ideas in mind for sure, though. ty :D

@@SquaredNull ah okay cool I can’t wait 🗿🗣️

@@SquaredNullBuster Only?

@@velvetbutterfly that could be a good idea too, actually. i don't actually know of the proper timing of buster usage against bosses and such, so it would be definitely an interesting experience.

i may just be a bit oblivious rn for some reason, so i'm missing the reference, but despite that i'm still going to say this is a huge truth yes :)

ty!

thanks for saying that :D

big and true

ty for saying that! i hope you're doing fantastic yourself and enjoying life for how it is and what it has given so far :D

griffon's entire lore makes me feel bad, tbh. does so much for his master, ends up just getting impaled and betrayed last second. the bird didn't deserve this :( but yeah, it seems weird why he didn't have his own individual boss fight like phantom did at least. kind of weird, though speculating that he could have due to the funny fire scorpion/spider mentioned earlier having it would make sense.

yeah that definitely has to be either one of the most committed people in the world, or one of the most masochistic. or both, actually.

@@SquaredNull I wonder if he is still sane...

complete opposites, apparently. seems like i'm missing out by not having myself a rebellion to put up somewhere. still sounds really cool that you're gonna get one, though. hope that it all works out :)

pretty much a spot on description of it all

i remember the first vergil too on my first playthrough and just how much of a wall he was. sure do love first times going through games and how amazing some of the boss experiences can be.

i honestly love first playthroughs of games. especially with older games, since i personally feel like i'm so used to the quality of life features that new ones have, it's as if you sometimes miss important features and it creates a janky, albeit unique, way of playing the game. i love hearing stories like this, so ty for mentioning it!

TY TYSM! :D seriously I cannot express in words in this comment how much I am thankful for your support. thank you!

@SquaredNull Its a great video, gotta show the support! Idk what youtube cuts but I wanted to atleast give enough to get you a big mac or something

drg pipe grinding got me down bad 😳😳😳

the game honestly just feels like it doesn't work right without stinger. like, sure, agni and rudra have their rush combo that lets you run forwards, but it's not even close to the speed that stinger has. really hoping whatever I do next lets me use it...

no plz I would literally die I don't wanna suffer through not having dt explosion on dmc3 dmd :(

RUclips I BESEECH YOU. SMITE MINE ENEMIES AND GRANT ME ETERNAL GODHOOD AMONG THE RUclips MASSES. oh sorry I think I had another possessive episode. anyway, ty for the support :D

Bruh, don't sacrafice yourself to google. That's the google staff's job.

@@amxaas4450 someone has to die for the small person to succeed and it may as well be me

​@@xwxstonecoledxwxuwu8378 artist , animators , engineer , web site designer , art & craft creators , doctor's are deserving of that respect youtube should push there videos who work hard day & night . Not some who makes low effort content & plays game all day .

100% my opinion on dmc before I played it. rough as it can be to get into it initially, it's so fun when you manage to get used to it all.

any dmc game without stinger just feels extremely weird and I felt just abysmal every time I needed to get to an enemy. like, if I could use styles at least I could just trickster to them. but no, I have to run a marathon between all enemies. help D:

@@SquaredNull I agree, Except DMC 2 since in that game Dante struggles to Stinger properly.

@@YashimotoTheRedStar oh i actually forgot about the stinger from dmc2. i swear it looks as if he's like halfway into tripping or something whenever he tries to do it. now i'm getting ptsd from that game again...

@@SquaredNull It's so dang akward.. Even Vergil does it better with his first stinger on DMC 3.. It's like tiny but it feels so much better than whatever they tried to do with DMC 2.. I grew up with DMC 1, 2 and 3 and i just could not grasp on their logic.

i hadn't even considered this as an idea, but this sounds so dumb that i want to try to see if i could make something out of that. thank you a ton for this idea, it's amazing :D

Royal Fork spam will be plentiful

summoned swords definitely will play a part in what i have planned to come up next, so you did manage to kind of guess what may or may not be coming next for dmc3 :D

@@SquaredNull gonna be summoned Swords only ain't it.

@@ratt__mann9220 uhhh i cannot confirm or deny anything but there is a rather sizeable chance it *could* be summoned swords only. and in the case that it is, then you really were ahead of the curve on guessing challenge ideas. that or it isn't and i'm just stealing this idea from you rn (but it totally couldn't be that...)

@@SquaredNull I've always had a tendency of predicting things. If it is summoned Swords only, I eagerly wait for the challenge.

Chalenge beating the platforming Chalenge without trick UP? IS quite impossible

i'm really glad to hear that! while i can't say for certain what my next project will be on, i do hope to get another dmc related thing out sooner than later. thank you so much for sticking around also :D

ty for saying that! i'm extremely happy to hear that you enjoyed the video! honestly, while my sub growth has been a bit stagnant at times, as long as the content i make is enjoyed by those that are sticking around or just happen to find it out there, then that's great enough for me :)

i'm glad my sacrifices are still not made in vain 😔✊ but seriously, thank you so much for your support and appreciation!

thank you so much! seriously, it still means a ton to me whenever you do comment on my videos :D while i do have to say that i really want to work towards a better posting time and actually getting stuff out more often, i really can't guarantee it unfortunately, but your affirmations do help me realize that taking time is fine so long as the end product is enjoyable for everyone. dmc4 is going to be quite a thing to work with. while i do plan on doing a playthrough with dante/nero for my main vid on it, i still will have to do something regarding lady/trish as well as vergil too. whatever i do for my main thing is still a bit unknown on my end, but i have a few general ideas sitting around. and maybe i'll keep that royal guard idea in mind at least (i really want to try it...) i'm still really glad to have your continued support, and i hope that everything i put out going forwards is as enjoyable as this video and the previous content. thank you again :)

thank you so much! i'm super happy to hear that you enjoyed it, too! while i've been kind of having some issues motivating myself to create dmc content as of late, hearing stuff like this actually helps a lot with wanting to try it out again :D

Hey outta curiosity, would the move 'wild stomp' invalidate the rules? It's a gunslinger exclusive move but instead of using the style action button it's preformed by mashing the 'shoot' button near a downed enemy with Ebony & Ivory equipped.

@@Arcana_zero_studios that's actually a really good question tbh. though, i never knew that move was actually something from gunslinger specifically. i could be wrong, but i swore that it can be executed even without gunslinger being active. and because of this, i'd say that it is allowed, but it's definitely in some sort of grey area. i'd probably have to research the interactions with it more, but thanks for mentioning this regardless!

@@SquaredNull I looked in the 'file' menu and saw it was placed under the gunslinger move list. Maybe it's because it's a 'crazy combo' move?

@@Arcana_zero_studios it's probably something to do with that. bringing all this up definitely means i should create a more concrete definition of what fits into styles and all that in future challenges, since i'd like to avoid situations involving more iffy things like this. once again, ty for mentioning that it was located in there as it opens up another avenue for stuff going forwards :)

tysm, i'm glad that the narration sounds nice and i hope to do just as well in future projects! :D

compared to normal runs, yeah i do agree that 100 cycles is pretty short. i was honestly busy doing a personal run at the same time i was making this stuff which was somewhere nearing 1000 cycles and i wanted to finish whatever i was doing with that before i thought to continue something similar to what i was doing here. though, if i am to do another thing like this the question of whether or not i should make it using the new dlc or not has also been something that's been stuck on my mind but considering i wasn't too far into this run i wouldn't mind sacrificing the 100 cycles to be able to do a reset. either way, thanks for the suggestion :D

thank you! i'm so glad you enjoyed it and even went to go actually play the game! it means a ton to hear stuff like this as i continue to make stuff, so it really helps :)

tysm! i hope to make more too :D

my plan was to get working on an electrolyzer setup, but i kept getting distracted by working towards other goals which unfortunately kind of got me locked into the manual generation route for the most part. i completely agree that, if i were to set up a spom or such it would have been significantly easier. ty for the additional notes, though! it's likely i'll try this again with the frozen planet dlc (or whatever it's called) and might have to remember specific details to try them out.

the fact that 'soggy feet' is so easy to contract in the game is just absolutely annoying. like, i get stuff like popped eardrums and such because you can get around that by proper distribution of gasses, and the same goes for the temp debuffs. but the fact that touching water forces the stress up for a decent amount of time is just totally aggravating.

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