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Thanks brother. Super appreciated!

Good luck 🍀👍🏻

You are welcome my friend. Thanks for helping out!

Very cool solution! Thanks for sharing it.

Actually I think this might make an excellent pistol for you. The trigger is heavier than the Mark IV put I can consistently shoot more accurately with the MarkPoint in spite of the heavier trigger. The Mark IV s automatic safety is really stiff to disengage when the pistol is new and therefore rather annoying. Once it’s broken in one can learn to automatically disengage it with your thumb as you prepare to fire. The sights on the MarkPoint are fixed but much easier to use. Writing this makes me think I should do a comparison video between the two airguns. Look for it soon & thanks for the impetus. And thanks for being here!

It’s a short from an old video. Looses something in translation to short but gots to feed the algorithm. Sorry to sully your viewing pallet. The full length and short both did really well. So while I agree with you. We are in the minority. RUclips is weird like that. If the first comment a video gets is negative, that video will frequently be a hit. Trippy huh. 🤔 Btw, thanks for being polite in your criticism. Btw, I had drafted a.family member to be camera person on that video and it was the first time they’d used a gimbal equipped camera. But the fault there is my own.

I don’t get the 1994 reference? Please explain.

@@AlsAirguns we had a ton of abs "polymer" Puch and break barrels, they were manufactured better then then they are now, take the Barnet Nitro 45 for example, cheap, solid, still works today, not a seam line in the moulding whatsoever. With CNC machining for mass production, Co2, Nitrogen, PCP technology ready available - Umarex bring out this?

Thanks, I see what you mean.

As far as bringing out the Markpoint, I can understand why Umarex would bring a reliable, accurate, low cost, easy to shoot break barrel to the market. So far the consumer response has been extremely good. So I think it was a good move for them. Inexpensive and fun never gets old.

Synthetics are the way of the future.....

Awesome. Good luck 👍🏻

Funny you should ask that. Stay tuned,

They really seem to be putting out some cool stuff lately. They also are developing to the more cost conscious part of the market which I think many like me really appreciate.

@@AlsAirguns I'm part of that same market. They have some great options from this pistol all the way through the Hammer.

I’m trying to talk UmarexUSA into donating a MarkPoint for a giveaway. My next giveaway will probably be for members. Thanks again for joining.

Thanks, much appreciated!

I don’t know for certain but I assume quite poorly. As there is no way for them to stabilize. Slugs and bullets require spin to stabilize. Pellets do not. That’s just physics.

Those would be No bueno.

I had one of the first Benjamin Trail gas piston pistols. Mine was not good which is obviously why it has been redesigned. I’ve not tried the newer version so I can’t comment other than to say this a much lower velocity. It’s also been really easy to hit with and shoots garbage pellets amazingly well. It’s accurate enough people will want to hunt with it and that would be asking too much. I’m like you about the safety. So happy not to have an annoying automatic sliding safety catch. I’m one of those shooters that had trouble tripping the standard grip safety on a 1911A1 due to a high firing grip. I don’t even notice this one and it’s never failed to disengage. Great legal compromise and good feature for new shooters.

@AlsAirguns from watching the video and your message and it affordability this would be great to use and leave in the garage at least for me the only only air gun that ileave out in my garage is the Beeman p17 mainly because I live really close to the ocean in California so any thing metal rust really quick from the fog every morning even in the garage it work out because it plastic and low powered having a second one I can challenge people at darts I really don't play darts with the Beeman I don't care to have to have to constantly hand it back in forth each time it's the next person turn sense it the one I can leave out I play buddys and a few cousins a lot at regular dart. The Beeman mainly used to eliminate field mice from time to time when playing darts they will run in the garage at night if the screen not close or the garage door cracked open when playing darts it has a Lazer dot on top it stay on the table with a open bowl of pellet next to the cricket score chart I have laminated every one knows if they see one grab it and shoot it they eat all the dog food making holes even threw its in thick plastic container the dog doesn't like them either sometimes the dog faster than use if it comes in while playing darts my cousin are into airguns to I d need to order the dart there kinda hard to find sense there rifle barrel I try to only use the brass end with soft color tail ends darts if they hit metal they brake. it be sweet if bartolson dart made some my parents house only 2 miles from the factory my hole family play darts except my sister every one also likes to shoot airguns to we have all challenges the last time was best out 5 shot brake barrels gamo tightest group wins 20 yards parents back yard every one has there own target my group was unbelievable I won't to say may dad still has the target board it looks like I only shot 3 pellets first time I ever seen my dad turn a little red and double take my nephew made a comment dang papa uncle way better then you or any of use my dad Said he can't repeat it he drew target on the side and I two hole group out 5 it was even tighter best to group I ever shot with a brake barrel ever I dough id ever come that close again my mom caught me staring at it one or twice I know it extremely hard to group a brake barrels gamo the only one I could ever get to group okay iv return over 15 brake barrels any thing over a 5in group at 20 not excitable for paying over 100$ in less full auto wich at one point I was addicted to I own a few and at least 5 drodz black birds mod to 5k round a min 1000round mag 1100fps on 1200psi hpa there beast extremely rare now and really expensive if found backyard dispatcher as me to do video on it he's wanted one for ever but I don't like being filmed I don't like my voice either if I did id know I'd have lot of people ask about my builds 😅🫣🤭

Sorry for the slow response. Crazy couple of weeks at my place. Wife’s out of town, fridge broke down and a number of other household issues have been taxing me. I think you’re right about the MarkPoint being excellent for your saltwater air application. Plus it’s an addictive shooter. Leave it out with a tin of pellets and it’s so easy to pick up and be distracted by. Break, Load, Shoot, Repeat. It can be super relaxing and challenging at the same time. Since you’re an insider I’ll drop it here. I already have a second, new in the package, Umarex Multipoint that I’ll be giving away next in a members only giveaway. So odds will be really good on that one.

@AlsAirguns sorry to here about your house hold issues I no the can be easily add up quickly hope your able to solve them with out to many issues in no appliances are quite expensive about 2 years ago my washer and refrigerator both needed to be replaced and weren't worth fixing and both broke in the same week . Even though I had bought used refurbished it was still over 1200$ to replace it. Wich now a day for new can be that price for one or the other . There no way id be able to buy new at those prices . I live alone so for me it be out of the quite . Also that's very nice of you to give away anything in two separate give aways. It definitely got me exited. I'm crossing my fingers there only a few times iv ever had a high chance of being able to win something. Even if I'm not the winner . There only maybe a few time we're iv come close to have a decent chance . Iv actually never have won something in a giveaway away or ever matter a fact runner up the closet iv ever been . The only thing I ever did was at work a foot ball pool and sense I don't really gamble the other guy that was in the running said if we slit it we both win. I no it's not a give away. Its the only thing i came close I did end up splitting it . if I didn't I would have one the hole pool but I don't like taking the chance anything and it was more for fun and he was very good friend so I was happy ether way. Unfortunately he has passed away . He the first person to leave me something that wasn't family just a great friend and co worker. He was the one that trian me to able to be in the position I'm in for that alone I was thank full for. He left me his buck 110 knife he carried every day and had sense he was a teen and his first rifle as a kid a Winchester model o6 pump action. His wife said I was one of his only friends despite being more the a 30 year age different his resent wife said more like one of his sons. He did have 2 sons but they refused to see him very sad situation . Rip Billy rush😢😇

The ability to shoot both would be super cool. And the HPA cost is reasonable as an addition. Definitely an attractive option!

@AlsAirguns yup that and you can use the hpa tank for all of your air guns I do even on my co2 powered air guns because I use a externally adjustable bottle regulater on the bottle so I can adjust to any output settings I want. I use 1000psi on my co2 guns I use a dummy aluminum co2 tank with a foster fill nipple so I can teather the hpa tank to the dummy co2. No modifications needed to the co2 guns is needed as long as it stays regulated under 1000psi out put. So it's really cheap to run any of my airguns . 💯💪😉

And this is exactly what I asked Umarex about, because I knew it would happen. I was hoping they would put out their own pcp conversion, because we and they knew the community would.

@@PapaTAdventures I agree a “factory” offering would be ideal and yes, third party seems inevitable. Umarex responded with Air Javelin, so who knows.

@PapaTAdventures umarex makes a hpa conversion adapter the javelin hpa adapter will fit this as well. You have to make sure it's not the umarex 88g co2 check valve there a difference in the ratings the check valve co2 88g is only rated for 800psi . The 88g to hpa conversion is 2k ratings but a 2k out put regulated hpa out put bottle reg needed even though the airguns is also regulated. There isn't a tank adapter made from 7075 aluminum 88g to hpa adapter for a 3k out put made by a factory yet. a 3k rated adapter will allow the gun to use a unregulated hpa 3k fill bottle wich will simulates the nitrogen bottles output my personal opinion it doesn't matter either way you go it's going to cost about the same and perform the same either way. a hi rated adapter with no reg just means less failure and leak points in it's application. You also have to remember the all factory adapter has to be set up and regulated currently and if the bottle reg fails that factory adapter actually become dangerous sense it not able to handle a higher output witch is also really dangerous if it fails more then if a after market adapter is made for a 3k output set up. You have to understand the way everything made and set up if you don't one mistake done wrong become really dangerous you have to understand every type of application and account for any possibility of failure. This is exactly why any hpa conversion should really be done by experienced airgun builder or custom airgun shops only and not buy normal users. This is also why you only see overseas conversion videos and overseas home aid hpa build. No one wants to explain everything also responsiblity for anyone lake of knowledge or be blamed for there videos because some one made or did something incorrect or mist something. Then gets hurt . It's part of the reason your not able to make a regular utube video on modifications . I'd say it's also why factory hpa cost the most or more money then other types.💯😉✌️

I had the same thoughts regarding youth use. It’s not too bad to cock I’m not sure of the cocking weight but really not bad. Definitely easier than a lot of break-barred pistol’s. And the long full barrel makes a good handle for cocking. I’d say that 12 years old and up cab probably manage it. The trigger is definitely stiff at over 8 pounds. If it’s like most spring guns it will improve substantially after a few hundred rounds. I’ll give you a spoiler here. In my hands it’s much more accurate than the Mark IV or BuckMark break-barrels that Umarex makes.

As far as the cocking effort, as best I can measure on my postal scale it takes 10 pounds to break and if done slowly it builds to about 14-15 pounds. That’s out of the box and it seems to be loosening up as it breaks in. Unfortunately the initial trigger pull is over 8 pounds (as far as my scale goes but it’s ready to break.) I’ve noticed the trigger improving substantially with a little use. And you can stage the pull like a double action Smith & Wesson Revolver. You can pull through the heavy part and as it rolls off, hold and line up your sights before the final “button press” to fire.

@@AlsAirguns that is a heavy trigger for sure.

The safety is manual. You don’t need to touch it. The grip safety is automatic but it’s easy to operate and you could always pin it with a rubber band. It’s nice and muzzle heavy with a long sight plane and decent fixed sights. So far I’m shooting it much better than the Ruger Mark IV clone Umarex makes. I’d call it, impressively functional. And inexpensive, so what’s not to like.

I was shooting it yesterday and I dare say it’s more accurate (at least in my hand) than the Ruger Mark IV pellet pistol I’ve been shooting. Information on it is relatively sparse right now. I believe that I’m the first to review it outside of Umarex.

Thanks much appreciated. I have only had limited experience with Umarex. I’ve tested their Air Javelin CO2 Arrow Gun and their copies of the Ruger Mk IV and the Browning Buck Mark. I really like the Air Javelin and the Mark IV. The Buck Mark was okay but I like the way they did the Ruger much more. I’d assumed they would be built on the same underlying mechanism but the Ruger is built on an improved system. I found it to be more accurate. I’m pretty much like you on the Komplete. It’s perfect for small game hunting or the occasional pest. I believe it’s quieter than a .22 short or CB .

Do you have the link to it?

@@AlsAirguns ruclips.net/video/xtcaAuUDWAQ/видео.htmlsi=jooXdhkvrfTflK8F

@AlsAirguns in the video the only thing he did differently is he made the adapter out of 7075 aluminum for the high psi out put but he didn't state it . He trying to cover liability most likely because he the first person to do it on this airgun. I beat he won't be the last either. I beat the adapter in higher grade will be offered soon sense there isn't a difference besides the grade of aluminum used to make it. The hole concept and idea work and is possible. It's funny he acts like he's the first to ever go from nitro to hpa and hpa is more dangerous but it actually the other way around nitro more dangerous then hpa. I'm surprised he didn't know this. As long as u stay under 3k it's fine I'd say more like 2500 or 2k fill unregulated on the tank fill. The gun can't handle it so under 3k a lot safer. Just a fyi🫡😁

I was a moderator on the “Green” Crosman forum, working with Dan House (Dr. Subsonic) and Duane (Biohazard) my handle as Loneshooter. I don’t have any real experience with Umarex customer service. I think over the years I’ve probably gotten spoiled by the Crosman customer support. I wish other manufacturers would make parts diagrams and spare parts available as Crosman historically has. I really like my 3622, and your right about how cool it would be to have a version that to nitrogen cartridges. I often keep my 3622 in my trunk. I keep it aired up but don’t carry the pump in the car. So I have 25 shots and I’m done. I’m thinking the Umarex Komplete is the perfect replacement. I can have an extra cylinder packed along in case I ever need the extra shots. I’m like you as far as wanting iron sites on the Komplete. I’m planning to try the flip up Picatinny mounted iron sights that Umarex ships on their Air Javelin. I’ll post how it works out.

@@AlsAirguns Thanks Al...those names do ring a 🔔 if only hazily now...😅😁👍🍻 I wish the Komplete (and more PCP/CO2 guns in general) offered a single shot tray or variant in addition to the magazines, as many pellets don't fit them properly... I'll be curious to see how your open sight project turns out...👍 BTW, nice DTS you have there Al; I'm usually more of a truck & Chrysler LX-series kind of guy, but for some reason I've always had a soft spot for big, comfy, & reasonably powerful FWD cars as well...😁👍🍻

@@natesmith5393 Thanks! That Candi’s Northstar reminds me how much I love a V-8.

I don’t have one in front of me but I believe the overall length to be 34.5 inches.

Indeed 🕺🏻

Cool. Joseph, I could really use your help in the members area where we’re going over this project in detail. I got RUclips to approve a .99 cent membership. Obviously not free but as cheap as I can make it. And dude you’re so knowledgeable and involved you would be a huge asset there. Try it for a month and drop if it’s not worth it. If I had a way to sponsor your membership I would but that isn’t granted to me until later.

@AlsAirguns no problem I'll be joining in the next few days or so . Also thanks I'm definitely much appreciative🥰 of your kind words and don't mind helping out as long as I can. 💯👍

@@josephsaucedo8691 thanks man, much appreciated

About 10-15 yards.

To be completely honest I was trying to lever in pellet number three when it dawned on me what I’d done. At that point the breech would not close to attemp shooting them out. For two pellets, like you, I’d use the trigger method to clear them.

@@AlsAirguns 😂 we all have those days sometimes.

Oh so true…

I’m like you Ballistol & a pull through for cleaning. If at all. In my opinion .22 LR and airguns should rarely be cleaned. They simply don’t see the fouling that center fires do an in the case of airguns many have brass or soft steel barrels. Don’t just clean them to clean them. If a great shooter begins to shoot poorly after many rounds, it’s time to clean. But just because it’s the third Saturday & that’s gun cleaning day, hit your center fire rifles and pistols but when it comes to airguns and rim fires, leave the bore alone. Ps. In extreme cases, I also use JB Bore Paste. And I should mention I pull through from breech to muzzle when possible. I’m also careful to be certain it co,es straight out of the muzzle & not at an angle.

Thanks for your entry. Good luck 🍀👍🏻

I had a Golden Eagle as a kid, circa 1976. I probably put 10,000 bbs through that gun. I don’t have any experience with the current production. I know they are made in China & pretty inexpensive. So what you’re telling me doesn’t surprise me but it does make me sad 😢

@@AlsAirguns I used to shoot flies on the backyard fence with that little Daisy. Some years later I found myself in Army and that little BB gun was some of the best training I ever had

Something about that looping trajectory of those golden BBs really drilled in range estimation and Kentucky windage. I had uncles that could often hit sparrows on the wing with my little Daisy.

@@AlsAirguns It helped me earn an expect badge with the M79 Grenade Launcher

@@propblast82nd That makes sense. You were familiar with the arching trajectory no doubt. I’ve seen videos of the army’s old quick kill training with sight free BB guns. They could train guys to hit an aspirin tossed in the air with those. With practice the mind can master amazing skills like that. Btw, thanks for your service.

Wow, I was late to the party on these. Although until my surgery this year I didn’t have the need.

@@AlsAirguns I was a competitive shooter until about the age of 45 and discovered my arm just wasn’t long enough

Ahh it happens 🤷🏻‍♂️Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s really appreciated.

Very nice! Careful with your rapier like wit though.

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A bug perhaps 🤔

Thanks 🙏

I was late to the party on these. Plus because I wore glasses since I was a kid I’m used to having eye protection on always. Since they fixed my eyes & I don’t wear glasses I’m forever almost poking myself in the eye. Being able to see again I find myself much more protective of my vision.

What an awesome attitude. Thanks for commenting. And good luck to you too.

I think you’re right about that. If they sell enough & the way it’s priced I think they should.

@Arcahnslight definitely think there will be an aftermarket happen.

Testing makes me agree with you even more. I did performance testing yesterday with some surprises. Working on the video now. It will preview in the members area first. It’s one of three videos I’m working on getting out. Ps. Added a 99 cent basic membership that gets early access to videos and access to all members only videos & shorts.

I'd bet that if you were to take a 88g empty airjavlan tank you will be able to screw it in the kamplete even though co2 not going to be compatible only because of it being able to only reach 1200psi max . The airgun reg set at 1800 wich was provably done intentionally by umarex so no one trys using co2 . wich would work in it . if reg is lowered or removed . To function with co2💯🫡👌✌️😉

Thanks Joseph, This is super helpful and very informative. You rock!

Hey thanks for entering and for your comments. Congratulations on retraining yourself, I know that’s not easy. I’ve lost more than 2/3 of my right (dominant) eye to glaucoma. I’m trying to retrain my eyes but I’m not as far along as you. I’m hoping that you win as it would clearly be a good home for this airgun.