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Definitely need some Buckeye pics, banners, etc. on the wall.

Calling 2nd year players Freshman is a huge disservice to real freshman. The fact they count 2nd year player as freshman when taking about records is one of my pet peeves.

“I hope ya like gray” 😂

I hope you like gray 😂

We NEEEEEEED a kotn and Charlie Berens crossover. Get him on the show - he represents the north! /midwest

Kings of the north...reborn on MY birthday! 🎉🎉🎉

Can’t wait for this season

JJ Smith is a once every 10 years type player. Raiola is a solid QB prospect.

IDEA!!!!!!! Go LIVE DURING the Games .. Watch the game WITH US . INSTANT feedback and input from viewers. Have the game on the TV OFF SCREEN ( copyright issue). We can multitask its 2024. We can watch the game on our TVs and watch the GAMETIME LIVE stream and give input in chat at the same time ..... " BRILLIANT Jerry ...Brilliant "🤣

Kings of the North!!!

Thanks guys🎉GO BUCKS😤💯

How long raiola gonna keep up the mahomes cosplay lol

Is that going to be THE room

“Eastern Indiana” 🤔🤣

1. I appreciate you guys and will support any content you put out any place, any where. 2. Do your best to stay away from single person long form videos/podcasts. It’s incredibly difficult for one person to talk for 1 hour straight and it be listenable content. The only exception is if the content factual based and not opinion based.

I bet a 12 game parlay. I won 11. I had the over and all iowa had to do was score a TD. They got stuff 8 times at the one yard. I never bet a parlay since.

RB Evan Pryor transferred to the Bearcats from Ohio State…..

Doug - i love you buddy. That being said, you lost me at the 47 minute mark when you compared Harbaugh’s antics to an artist trying to achieve greatness. Let’s call it like it is - he cheated, brazenly and unethically.

This is awesome

The most money that I've ever won has been on parlays. I think they are doable with research.

Dude needs a better lighting setup, he’s looking like Voldemort lol

With the change to helmet communications, how do you factor this into your algorithms since it is new this year in college football?

LFG!

Is this the guy from that viral tiktok in London?

Stallions = LEGEND

KOTN!!!

Isn't this the guy from the London Bridge video?

40 minute discussion and not once did these OSU homers mention how Michigan won every game after Stallions was gone. That's why I stopped listening to this pod long ago besides this episode.

I will start this response to the question about football podcasts by saying yall are in my regular listen and probably my favorite considering kings of Columbus as part of your resume. I listen to Cover 3, late kick, Joel Klatt, and some others depending on the topic; but if I would consider any other show my favorite it would be Pate State with Josh, he’s funny and very much so runs the show like he’s having a conversation with the audience members as if we are on the same team and with the give away he does he has made it feel very much like we are playing for the same team. I feel like he can get repetitive sometimes but I will still listen and I don’t think I would say that about many people. Not sure what suggestions I would give to improve the show because I love the variety and approach, except I’d love to hear you talk about border schools more. I’m the guy from Louisville and we don’t get a lot of media attention and I feel like we fit into the premise of the show. Last episode bill made the comment about us being dragged down my Uk and first of all it makes me hate them more but I get it! I’m not even sure everyone in Louisville would agree with me bc I also have Ohio roots. But more discussion/ respect to border schools I think would also simplify the USC, UCLA question too

Seemed like a Chris Collinsworth impression

Jesus Doug, tell us you’ve never played football without saying it out loud. 49-26 Before Connor. 40-3 After Connor. During that 40-3 run they outperformed Vegas spreads by almost 9 points. It’s actually amazingly similar to the Astros. If you know what pitch is coming, you become a better hitter, and many Astros did. Just the same in football. Doesn’t matter what position I play, but let’s just take safety. If I know it’s a run, I never hit my backpedal. I just trigger downhill. I don’t even need to know what side the play goes to. He’ll look their second half adjustments. They held CJ Stroud #2 pick and 3 first round draft picks at WR (with the first OT in the draft) to 3 points. Maybe they went in to half after OSU scored 20 points and went up and down the field and said “hey we know the plays. Signals are the same”. They get 50+ hung on them after that and we find out that TCU changed their signals and UM didn’t scout them in person. I know you like to argue and that’s your job here. But your position asks to suspend all belief and empirical evidence. As far as it wasn’t as top down as the Astros?!?!? The president and AD stonewalled the entire process….BET! And the head coach, along with his 2 genius play callers, just randomly hung out on the sideline with a 55K “recruiting assistant”, while he whispered what exactly to them while staring at the opponents sideline? He didn’t even watch the game….just the sideline. BTW has Connor Stallions ever been credited, yet alone mentioned, in a UM recruiting win? I’ll save you the time. The answer is no. Doug the contrarian falls woefully short on this one. Your legacy is as tarnished as theirs in taking this position

we went to the natty against oregon and spent much of our time partying with the oregon fans. pretty cool people overall.

Michigan is done. -3 year post season ban negotiated down to two -Vacation of all wins from 2021, 2022, and 7 games of 2023 -10 year show cause for Harbaugh -show cause for sherrone -show cause for Minter -10 million dollar fine -15 scholy reductions for 3 years -all 3 big ten titles vacated -5 years probation - not sure what the CFP will do, but should a team keep a title when they wouldn't have made the playoffs with 7 less wins?

Hey Doug and Bill! I appreciate your podcast. I’m a Michigan fan who found your podcast when you were covering the playoff and national championship. I think you do a nice job already and think it’s great to get constructive feedback. For a podcast with a broader perspective covering a lot of teams, I think Cover 3 podcast is the standard. While not perfect, Budd Elliot and Tom Fornelli do a really good job of covering everyone and being objective which is extremely difficult. I think they leverage a lot of connections to insiders of other teams on the show. Bud frequently talks about talking to insiders he’s trusts to get the pulse of teams he doesn’t cover closely. He also mentions 3x speeding through tons of team podcasts a day. It took me a while when I first started listening to pick up what team they primarily root for. I think your podcast is still pretty focused and well connected with Ohio State. I think bringing in people outside the Ohio state circle could help. Work on finding reporters or insiders of other teams you trust to lean on them when something like an injury to an Olinemen happens. Last thing, and it’s not something I think you’re bad at now, but don’t be afraid to say “I don’t know” sometimes. There are too many teams in the north to know everything about everyone. Making stuff up just to have something to say will push people away. Good luck and keep up the good work! I love the idea and direction of the podcast!

If Michigan wins were mainly because of Stalions, wouldn't they have fallen off for the last 8 games without him? Instead they played the toughest part of the schedule and seemed to play better winning against rivals and the playoffs.

I only listen to this and The Podcast. Enjoy KoC more because it's osu focused. Like the idea of KOTN traveling to other games. I enjoy Birm, so more birm would be great

Don't talk so much TTUN ;) In all seriousness you guys are great. I would agree the production value is where you can improve most, think doing the shows in person together would be great. Also, think Bill could call out Doug or disagree more, not saying First Take level, but when Doug says crazy things like Colorado can beat Bama, he really should be put in timeout for the rest of the show! I think also when you get into the season and you can do weekly projections/rankings where there is one specific day you do that and then another one where you pick the games, the show will really gain steam. Love the travel you guys do for the show, love you bringing on coaches, ADs, and other media personalities, love the projections you guys do and all the work you put in. Thanks!

all of xichgans wins 2021 thru 2023 are tainted. They cheated in a way that invalidates everything that happened on the field. their three cheating wins over the Buckeyes mean less than nothing.

Because it’s second offense

Have you listened to osu

I've been listening to KOTN regularly for about the last 3 months. I found y'all from listening to Kings of Columbus 1. For college football, I listen to KOTN, Kings of Columbus, The Podcast Daily, Until Saturday, the Andy Staples Show a bit, and for the NFL I like State of the Nation (Now the Just Win Podcast) which is a Raider-focused podcast made by Athletic writers, and The Athletic Football Show 2. My favorite podcast of all time was 4to6 with A&B. I think the best part of the show was you could feel the friendship between Ari and Bill, and I liked the assgrabbery, which felt both natural and also had a place in the show. I think Kings of Columbus most closely replicates this feeling, but I have yet to listen to something that tickled the itch in the same way. When Andy Staples and Ari were together, for example, I often felt like Ari was made to be the punching bag too often. Finding that natural feel between the hosts is really hard, though this podcast does a better job at that than most. In terms of RUclips stuff, I think the production value could be a little higher, but I don't expect that from a podcast just starting out that's still finding its legs. 3. The thing I like the most about KOTN is that it feels like a national podcast that actually covers nationally. Though there is of course still a focus on the big names (OSU, PSU, Oregon, Mich, etc.) I still think you pay a good amount of homage to those other schools that get effectively no coverage. The SEC bias in media is irritating to me for reasons highlighted towards the end of this podcast, namely that name recognition alone makes fans perceive a bottom-feeder SEC team better than the 4th or 5th team in the B1G, despite bowl game and regular season games proving the opposite is true!

Show is great overall. A critique is that Bill tends to just go along with everything, even when you can tell he wants to push back more. Perfect example is this Michigan stuff, Doug feels it’s not nearly as big of a deal. Bill visually wanted to push back multiple times, and even ends the show with “being too nice to Michigan” but doesn’t actually ever put his foot down and state his actual opinion. A lot of “yeah, I agree with that” and it feels fake at times. I don’t want fabricated conflict, but respectful conflict makes shows like these. If Bill just agrees with Doug on everything, then Doug should just do the show himself.

Doug- I would like to understand the perspective on the difference between the Astros cheating scandal and what UM has allegedly done. You agree in your words that the astros as “dirty cheaters” bc they were using technology to illegally eliminate a variable in a game. In their instance pitch type. So batters would still be required to identify location and hit the pitch. Similarly, if UM used advanced scouting, which is illegal, to steal sign in advance of games to eliminate not just one variable (pass or run) but also location, particularly on run plays (left/right), why would they be held to different standards? Great discussion overall I just was hoping to understand the distinction in your mind.

I enjoy the style of this show more than any of the other buckeye RUclips shows. I especially enjoy the questions that Doug comes up with and I find Bill and Doug bring up points that other shows don’t (for instance, Doug breaking down the data of the increase in games along with the clock rule changes that essentially amounts to the same amount of football). The only show that has a little edge, I would say, is Buckeye Scoop. Kirk and Nevada have resources that nobody else has. I would say just keep what you’re doing, Doug! Keep up the great work!

Doug I love ya brother, been listening to you since Buckeye Talk. I gotta say though your perspective on the Michigan scandal is kind of weird in my opinion… I’m not sure how you didn’t realize we were beyond the fact that he did it…The man cheated for sure. The reason the consequences matter so much is because of the message it sends to other teams and players. We talk about not cheating the players but what about the former players on teams Michigan played and potentially were cheated out of a win or worse. There needs to be consequences, I’m just not sure how this is debatable.

Bro Ohio state is like bitter ex wife towards Michigan my goodness 😂

WHY did Moore and Stalions share 52 text messages when Stalions was a "lone wolf" that no one knew, who was a low level staffer in the recruiting department??

Stallions advantage doesn't matter. Results doesn't matter. The fact Michigan did it is what matters.

Menace 2 sports. They won’t get scared to say the shit that needs to be said. I also think birm is unmatched on the recruiting side of it all. I don’t watch shows like klatt or late kick because they just say bare minimum shit in my opinion. I love you guys because during the offseason you have fun discussions and I feel like you guys don’t click bait unnecessarily. That’s just my opinion from a small town on ohio tho. ❤️

1. Better than your pod? Single Wing by Godfrey. He's an objective truth-teller. Ralph Russo is reliably excellent on AP Top 25 Pod (which is the height of irony because there is little more stupid than the actual AP Top 25 Poll). Wetzel is very good on the Yahoo pod. Robert Mays and Mitchell Schwartz are the best football analysts. I'll listen to Dane Bugler 100% of the time. 2. Why are they better? None of the people I really admire and appreciate have obvious school affiliations. Godfrey went to Ole Miss but he's always been super objective about Ole Miss (maybe even too hard on them). You guys are way too close to OSU. The OSU beat is known outside Ohio as a fawning embarrassment. The only school worse is UM. It's such a disappointment that the two flagship programs in the north have such a hard time finding unaffiliated, objective reporters. 3. I can't tell if you guys have $ and don't know how to spend it, or are dirt poor broke and trying to get by stealing WiFi at Starbucks. Both the audio and video quality can be spotty. Graphics are average. The show looks like a high school film class project. You guys should be hardwired to fiber for reliable, predictable video quality. Buy better microphones. The difference between average sound and awesome sound is less than a thousand bucks. Better lighting. Learn to reliably frame yourselves to common sizes. Production 101. 4. Overall, the content is much better than the production. I like the show and want to see how the 5x per week live episodes work but I admit that I'm dubious. If you struggle with production on canned and edited video that drop 2x per week, how are you going to pull off live content 5x per week?