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Well, wow would be boring if it was easy, now to clear your LFR and +2 keys.

You could simply not play. I mean what is one whiny dude in comparasion to the rest

And this right here is what’s killing the game lol. Making this shit for the 1% so people can watch echo and liquid do it on stream……. Stupid af

@@SkidogMedia Yeah, sure, mythic raid end boss being tuned for top guilds for the first few weeks of the patch is killing the game, lol. What a terrible take. Why don't you focus on the difficulty that exists for players like you? It's called normal. And if that's still too hard, go try raid finder

World of warcraft, and I wouldn't say it's that noob friendly, unless you have friends to teach you

At start - yes, but in end game(what You are on video) This is hillarious hard

Isn't raiding in FFXIV 8 people ?

@@mercenaryforhire3453 Yeah, that's why this would be a midcore mech in XIV. Lower raid size = more mechanical responsibility and difficulty. Well that and classes are generally easier to play

@@aiu941 yeah that's what I thought. In wow if this was a dungeon mechanic it would also be seen as punitive but not too hard

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Literally the best content in the game. I cant do it so its garbage

@@ToxicTurtleIsMad yeah gating the best content in the game behind getting 20 adults with jobs together for multiple hours 2-3 times a week is super sick

@@ToxicTurtleIsMad I have 6 CEs btw, it’s trash

agreed. not even because of the difficulty. more so because of how inaccessible they are. oh you just need 20 people/oh you just need every class in the game/oh everyone is saved to the same lockout etc... there are way too many silly constraints tied into mythic raiding. I also have multiple CEs but I simply don't enjoy the time spent raiding anymore. if they removed all this silly stuff it would be great. but sadly blizz is so hardstuck mentally when it comes to mythic raiding and refuse to make changes

Sounds like a ff14 ultimate fight

​@@Tallestdwarfmost ultimates arent even close to being as hard as this. Theres a few outliers though, thats true

@@Tallestdwarf Lol

Killing mythic bosses is not made for everyone, it should be exclusive and also feel that way. Stop this “make the content for everyone” bs. There’s 4 difficulties, maybe just pick a lower one

@@playa5693 Whoaaaa, if you read their comment slower, it has nothing to do with "It should be for everyone." It's almost like the content for the mythic raiders is getting too hard for them, themselves.

Theres a larger gap from top 100 to bottom end CE, than from bottom end CE to people who doesn't even get aotc. We don't need world 2k guilds to get CE after 19 nerfs and 25 weeks of extending, it SHOULD be hard, and bosses like Halondrus/Tindral, show that good players generally like when bosses are not just loot piñatas

@@FangTehWolfdudes an npc

Mate this is completely pointless and idiotic to you , but to me and my guild and a lot of people like me who love this game . This is so fucking hype . If you don’t like challenging bosses then just don’t raid mythic dude . I’ve been praying for blizzard to remove loot from mythic so we don’t get the likes of you

It's almost as if you have 3 easier modes to play.

@@Thrall966 I am not crapping on your ability to play mythic content. I somewhat envy you, in fact, just as I somewhat envy PvP players for being able to play PvP. I am content with the fact I can, when I want to and when I have time, play mythic plus content on a level that satisfies me, and that is zotally fine. However, as much as you're entitled to your opinion about something, thr same goes for me. There is nothing, and I seriously mean it, *nothing* difficult in the raid wiping because one person was 1 meter out of position. And this orbs stuff is exactly that. The only difficulty here stems from making auras that will pinpoint everything on your screen so you know, in advance, how to move and where. This will be almost impossible to do without them due to overlapping mechsnics. And this also goes directly *against* what Ion was saying a couple of months ago when they were talking about changing the philosophy of boss design and started to disable certain APIs from the UI due to auras being too powerful.

@@ibazulic our best bet is in them converting all the mechanics to private auras so weakauras don’t read them . I agree with u . But even with addons and weakauras you’ll still need multiple tries to perfect it

well lfr isn't needed for people to do you go from heroic/mythic dungeons straight into normal.

There are 3 modes and normal should be removed

yeah. U are cooked

Let him cook

On beta yea

But that was his only mechanic though

Because it isn't on its own. Add in 10 other mechanics at the same time and it is.

If you kill this on mythic I promise to unalive myself

that'd be better than this dogshit, blizzard just trying to make the game worse by adding in bosses that no-one fucking asked for. You figured after tindral and fyrakk nuked the mythic raiding population, they'dve learned not to make bosses like this. Guess not

But only after 3 months

yea because wow is full with slow boomers .. if there was a community of like actual people who want to get better , it would be killable and so on. but your player base being 40yo boomers in IT with ugly wives and 2 ugly kids . you have no choice

Fully 100% incorrect take by someone who either doesn't raid Mythic or raids Mythic at world rank 2000 at best.

True. Horrible design. It's why I only raid in 14 now. Balance changes are laughable. Let's release fights and nerf them by 50% months later. Get real.

@@billymays9296Nothing he said is wrong. Either actually expound your refute or shut up

lmfao worst bait ever

It's harder in the sense that you have to play with 19 other bozos

Nice troll

20 players makes it insanely hard, you're genuinely just stupid for comparing these two

@@angelpolus-lz6ox no because 20 person is idiot not respecting mechanics and struggling whining while trying 1 braincell dpsing

@@leth9375 you’re forgetting that playing your sim (perfect dps) is significantly harder in wow than it is in FF. Which is more or less required for the people doing the bosses in the world first setting

@@Zoniex echo struggled with a XIV DPS check (P8S) for 10+ hours so I wouldn't say significantly

@@acsilol a check being harder in one game over the other doesn't have anything to do with the difficulty of doing perfect damage. If you have intricate knowledge of both games, it is simply just true, that wow's combat mechanics, procs, gcd time, pace everything about it on the player end of doing dmg is higher skill ceiling than ff.

Sounds like you don't enjoy raiding, nobody is forcing you

if it's not worth it, and you don't "care" about an achievement in a video game, then don't do it? You're not forced to raid? xd

@@Solanisx you say that like its just me in reality its 99% of the playerbase xd and its content that takes alot of effort from blizzard mind you. could have gone to other things

@@azkendarken4403 just play a diff game bro, no one is forcing you to play wow

​@@Solanisx lol i dont raid calm down with the "no one is forcing you" i play for other things in the game like 99% of the playerbase thank you very much

Why? Get good

​@champboehm7863 you could either allocate the majority of your waking hours to kill cartoon monsters in a game for pre-diabetic 35 year olds, or just engage in video games as a hobby. Though I am jealous of people who enjoy the game that much to the point they want to spend that much time on it.

Wtf does that actually mean?? Don’t make a first raid tier based upon your dumbass stupid comment? Just quit the game bot boy. Kthx.

​@@Dom-zy1qyok but sry, that reasoning is absolute BS. Gardening, Painting, Gym, Gaming. It's all Hobbies. As long as you enjoy yourself, you do you. And you're acting like there wouldn't be THREE easier difficulties, below mythic. Mythic is made for exceptional players - If you have other hobbies (which is totally fine) you just raid NHC/HC and enjoy the game that way

​​@@Dom-zy1qythat's a lot of words for say that you're dogsh*t at the game.

trivialize meaning like it's a 500 pull boss instead of 1000? Also I’m not even sure how a weakaura would help much on the difficulty of the mythic mechanic

Clueless comment

SoD gamer alert

The funniest part is weakauras trivialize things the least for top guilds with 21st players making calls. Yes though, there will absolutely need to be some way to handle on the fly pairing assignments for 10 sets of 2 in 10 seconds or for some way for them all to rotate around each other. I just hope it's easy like a set of 2 ranged DPS can go camp in a corner and the web breaks and the charge don't mess it up too much.

@@Zoniex of course. Anyone with common sense can see this, but its easier to shut down your critical thinking and doomerpost about weak auras in a videos comment section

no you dont get the Point, its nice that its that way, hes not complaining about it. just saying it will be hard

?? he's not complaining, he's happy about it "nothing changes" what exactly should change? other than many of the earlier fights being far too easy mythic raiding has been in a pretty good spot recently though the amount of weakauras required is a bit insane at this point, wish they'd do something about that but that would require rebuilding the game from the ground up

Nothing will Top Halondrus

​@@Nathrocks12Uu'nat was harder than Halondrus

@@billymays9296 also kil'jaeden there were a lot of harder bosses than halondrus

@@billymays9296 Maybe, but that is a final boss, Halondrus was 4th/5th so for the placement of the boss; nothing will compare to pre-nerf halondrus

@@Nathrocks12 Halondrus was the 7th boss. I guess technically you could do it 4th if you're insane, but I'm not really sure what logic you would use to say it's the 5th boss.

classic just couldn't keep my attention as soon as dragonflight came out. Didn't feel like raid logging during prog in retail and m+ season. Maybe I'll return to making retail content but I also understand that's not really something the people that subscribed here want to see