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We also love Woodford Double Oaked as a higher end option in an OF! We were thinking about doing another test with higher end bourbons but haven’t gotten around to it. Thanks for sharing your favorites and thank you for watching - cheers! 🥃

We did a rye test as well! Rittenhouse was included in it. Take a look if you’re interested - cheers! 🥃

Thank you! We’re glad this was useful. Any other experiments or videos you’d like to see?

Yep! And essentially, the message of this video. We ran an experiment and found that we liked some really unexpected bottles and found a new go-to. You may have some similar results with a test of just one or two new bottles. If you want to stick with what you know, more power to ya. Cheers!

That’s a great price! We did this review a while back but I remember that it was very reminiscent of the 1792 profile (which was not too much of a surprise 😁). If you get the BiB, please feel free to return to this thread and let us know your assessment. Thanks so much for watching and cheers! 🥃

Thank you! We thought the same - that the dilution would ‘kill’ the taste profile of any 80-proofers very quickly. However, we didn’t see any dramatic change after a few minutes of sitting in the glass. We did use large cubes though!

That's interesting. I assumed the sweetness would wash out the taste of the low proof bourbon right away. I admit I've never made an 80 proof OF but 86 and 90 proof don't typically hold up as well as higher proof bottles, even on the first sip. ​@homebario

For sure! What are your go-to higher proof bourbons in an OF? Am curious to know since we may do a higher proof old fashioned test.

Your granddad sounds like a wise man! And thank you so much for the kind words and for watching - cheers 🥃

I’ll bet that’s delicious! We will give it a shot - cheers! 🥃

We did a video test with 15 ryes, so if you’re more into rye then you should check it out! Though Templeton was not on the list. Some other big names were though - cheers! 🥃

We totally agree - and that’s why we would encourage those who are interested to run their own test. You may just find a new favorite! Cheers 🥃

Thanks for watching! This video was published nearly two years ago, and I think it was reviewed shortly after the bottle became available. We research each bottle thoroughly, but not all info is publicly available at time of review. We’d be glad to update the age statement in the description. However, even the limited info we had at the time still isn’t “misinformation” - we said it’s aged at least two years. It is. Have a good day!

We’re very serious! If memory serves, we made it a point to select the most popular selling bourbons on Drizly, coupled with some other options our audience was interested in. In short, we wanted a lot of very available bottles in our lineup, and some that people may be curious about. Anyways, thanks for watching! 🥃

You’re welcome! I enjoyed watching. But I’ve got to take some time to wrap my head around the results. 🤣🤣🤣

😂 it was a shock to us too! We never expected Evan Williams to get so close to first place either. Now we’re respecting those workhorse bottles a bit more these days 😆 cheers! 🥃

VERY good for the price! Cheers and thanks for watching 🥃

We actually had 2 wheaters in the top 5! Might just be our particular tastes 🤷‍♂️😆 but we do have a test with 15 ryes if you want to check it out. Thank you for watching and cheers!! 🥃

Thanks for the feedback! We’ve since fixed this microphone.

If we made it any looser then it wouldn’t fit on our head!

Hey! We sure did explain the process of making the cocktail and also put the recipe in the description below the video. Did you watch just a portion of the video only? It was a blind taste test, meaning we knew which bourbons were part of the experiment but did not know which individual Old Fashioned used a particular bourbon. The entire process is explained in the video. Feel free to watch the entire thing which should explain all this in greater detail. Thanks!

We recently did an experiment with 15 ryes! Check out that video too if you have a moment - would love to get your thoughts on it. Bulleit rye was part of that lineup. Thanks so much for watching and for the conversation - cheers! 🥃🥃

We have a video of 15 ryes for an old fashioned and Sazerac Rye is one of the contestants! Have not tried brown sugar simple in an Old Fashioned but I’ll bet it’s great! Either complementing or adding those molasses notes to the cocktail. Thanks so much for your comment and cheers to ya 🥃

We have a video with 15 ryes as well. Feel free to check it out. Thanks for adding to the conversation - cheers! 🥃

Big Canadian Whisky fan, eh? I can see that being another test to run 🤔🤔

Thanks for the feedback! All of these bottles were under $50.

Agreed! And thankfully, it’s not hard to find, at least in our area. Super excited about that! Cheers 🥃

Absolutely, glad we could help! Let us know if you do the test and how things shake out - really curious what others think about the topic. Thanks for commenting and watching! Cheers 🥃

You’ve inspired us to try it in a Manhattan and Vieux Carre! We felt the same - never disliked it neat, so when we did the blind we were pretty shocked. But there was just too much unpleasant heat! Seemed to throw it off. Maybe a bad batch? It was a tough matchup with the top 3, so if you’re not keen on KC Rye then I would definitely go for JD or Woodford rye. At least in our area, JD is cheaper and we thought it was great. If you try it, please come back here and let us know your thoughts! Thank you for the discussion and for watching - cheers! 🥃

Interesting, as I recently polished off a Rittenhouse rye store pick and a JD Bonded rye in a Manhattan and Old Fashioned playoff. The JD Bonded was definitely my fave as neat, but also easily won out in the OF and Manhattan competition. Btw, Punt e Mes vermouth with JD Bonded is my new go to for Mahattans!

@@ericmalmstrom9943 these suggestions are awesome! I might go pick up some Punt e Mes today just to try it in a Manhattan. We also have a Rittenhouse pick but haven’t cracked it yet. I was curious if it would do better in an Old Fashioned than the ‘shelf version’ we tried, because it’s possible we got a bad batch or something. Never disliked Rittenhouse neat, but it just didn’t do well in our competition. 🤷‍♂️ how was your Rittenhouse pick? Decent?

Definitely wanted to feature bottles that are more accessible! This experiment was a toughie because in reality, the vast majority of them were good or great. KC and Bulleit made excellent OF’s. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts - cheers! 🥃

Larceny is an excellent option! Thank you for the compliment and for watching - cheers! 🥃

Hoping this encourages others to try something new and potentially find their personal favorites! Thanks for watching - cheers 🥃

Couldn’t agree more! If nothing else, I’d hope our video demonstrates that you might find a new favorite by going out of your comfort zone (or usual bourbon of choice for cocktails). But we’re trying 15 ryes next! Curious to hear your thoughts after we post it (soon). Cheers! 🥃

@@homebario I did really enjoy the video!

Thank you for watching it! And thank you for the comment and conversation 👍

To each their own, we say! For us, the balance was certainly there. And from memory, I don’t recall the spice fizzling much after some ice melting/dilution. But I will ask: when you say Four Roses Single Barrel are you referring to bottles made with mashbill B or E? Or both? Because my guess is they will make different OFs with a 15% difference of rye in their respective mash bills.

Standard FRSB is made with mash B and yeast strain V.

For sure, if the reference was to the standard ‘shelf version’ then it would be the higher rye mash bill. We haven’t tried it, to be honest! But I’ll bet it’s great. 👍

Thanks for the comment! That’s a good rule of thumb, I think. That said, I also think that this showed us the bourbons we find unremarkable can enhance or complement other flavors in an OF in unexpected ways. For example, we’re not usually drinking Evan Williams Black Label neat; it’s more likely we’d be drinking Blanton’s, BT or Eagle Rare that way. But the blind shook out to have EW Black label #2 overall to beat out all those others (for our tastes). But I agree with your statement - if you DISLIKE a whiskey, chances are good you’re not gonna like it in an OF 🙂 thanks again and cheers to you as well! 🥃

Haven’t tested that! 😁 We usually just go with Jim Beam white label - we think it does the job pretty well 👍👍

Hey, it might! Two wheated bourbons in the top 5. But I will say that before this test, our two favorites for an Old Fashioned were Buffalo Trace and Knob Creek. Still love them (I think we might’ve gotten a bad batch of KC for the test, to be honest). We were looking for balance of sweet and spicy as the #1 factor in our decision, and then if there were other intriguing notes in the cocktail that was given consideration. Anyways, thanks for watching and for the discussion as well - cheers! 🥃

Thank you so much for watching! Before this test, Buffalo Trace and Knob Creek were always our go-to’s for an Old Fashioned, so we share your sentiment on BT! We will definitely try the suggestion for Dark Rye. We are working on an Old Fashioned with Rye video currently, so if you’re subscribed then you’ll see that coming soon 😁 Cheers and thank you for the discussion and kind words! 🥃

@homebario - We did a live with different old fashioneds. Here is a couple others to try with an old fashioned Knob Creek Smoked Maple, and one that might be hard to find....Blue Sky Distillery Painted Pig Smoked Bacon Maple Whiskey. I'm not much into flavored Whiskeys, but these made good old fashioneds! Take Care, and I'll quit blowing up your comment page!!

No worries at all - love the recommendations and love talking whiskey and cocktails! We appreciate ya!

That’s definitely pricey! Sadly, we’ve seen higher than that even 😩

Fair question! It was definitely considered because we do like it neat, but ultimately it didn’t make the list because of its proof point. We figured it might make sense to make a future vid of higher proof old fashioneds so that would definitely make it in there. We considered OGD bonded as well, but in the end we figured having a good amount of Beam products in the test already should be a fair representation of their general profile. Any other bottle suggestions you’d like to see for a future video? We’re all ears - thank you!

Lots of AE fans out there! Do you like drinking their products neat / on the rocks? Or just specifically in an Old Fashioned?

While AE didn’t do so great in our test, we actually love the brand and what they produce! Have you had their rye finished in Caribbean Rum Casks? Excellent bottle. 🔥 I believe AE’s rye content is 18%, which is on the higher end of medium. And it’s fairly unique because it’s the only finished whiskey we tried in our experiment. From this list, we’d recommend trying Old Forester 100. Its cheap, same amount of rye content, with an oaky profile and a fair amount of sweetness (likely not as much as AE considering the port wine finish). But if you do try it, let us know what you think! Cheers 🥃🥃

@@homebario Hmm, maybe it’s because of how the bartender made it. His variation was stirring the cocktail with an orange slice and cherry already in it, rather than just adding them as garnishes after the fact. It almost looked like a sangria the way he was doing it. He also stirred it for the max time, which may have helped with the bitter aftertaste y’all were talking about. It went down really smooth and flavorful. Anyway, I have not had the Caribbean Rum AE, but I did see it on the shelf one time. I’ll definitely give that a try as well as the Old Forester 100-thanks for the tip.

Always glad to give (and receive) tips! That sounds delicious, actually. It’s very possible that the orange slice mellowed out that bitter note we experienced in our test. In fact, it might’ve even given the bitter note context (orange slice with peel) which made it much more enjoyable. Feel free to return here when you try the Old Fo or the AE and let us know if those were to your liking. We love to have these convos - thanks again!

EW Black Label was a huge surprise to us! I remember when we evaluated and ranked, and then looked at our stickers under the glasses for the final reveal we were like “really?? Evan Williams!? Well, a blind test doesn’t lie!” 😂 I think one thing we discovered in this test is that some of these flagship or lower shelf expressions are really created to mix nicely in a cocktail. Which would make sense! Now we understand why they’re considered workhorse bottles at so many bars. Please let us know how Larceny stacks up against EW in your opinion! We’d love to hear back from ya. Thank you for the discussion and cheers!! 🥃🥃

All great options! Curious to hear your thoughts on Larceny when you give it a whirl. Thanks so much for watching - cheers! 🥃

Thank you for watching! And curious to hear your thoughts on Larceny when you give it a try (both wheated bourbons, so I’m curious to see if Maker’s stays at the #1 slot on your list). Looking forward to chatting further - cheers! 🥃

Oh awesome to hear! We’ll be releasing our ‘Best Rye for an old Fashioned’ video soon and Bulleit Rye is one of the contenders. You may find Maker’s a bit sweeter than Bulleit Rye, owing to both the corn and the Red Winter Wheat. But I’m curious to hear your thoughts if you do try it! Thank you for your watching and cheers 🥃

Always orde mine with makers mark. It’s delicious

Just a follow up on this - we released our 'Best Rye for an Old Fashioned' video a few days back and Bulleit rye placed within the top 5 for us. Really nice balance, citrus shined through nicely, and had some unique notes as well. Thanks again for your comment and cheers to ya! 🥃

Currently in the works! Stay tuned…and thank you for watching this video! Cheers! 🥃

We released our '15 ryes' experiment a few days back - feel free to check it out on our channel! Cheers 🥃

We recently saw a store pick in our area for $199.99. It ain’t cheap if you want one!

JB is great!

I feel like this one surprised us a bit in the top 5! But in reality it makes sense; it’s sweet, inoffensive at 80 proof and seemed to really complement the flavors in the Old Fashioned. Turned out to be a solid option, in our opinion. Have you tried it in an Old Fashioned yet?

@@homebario I have! That’s what lead me to try it, I wanted a smoother old fashioned. The sweetness was a bonus!

Excellent! We're curious what Basil Hayden's Dark Rye tastes like in an OF 🤔 maybe we'll give it a shot! Cheers and thank you for the conversation 🥃

@@homebario Lol! Well, when you try it, please do a video! My pleasure. 🙏🏽

We like those too - all great options! Cheers 🥃

We’ve got a video coming out soon with 15 ryes, so if you’re a rye Old Fashioned guy, stay tuned!

Hey, just to follow up - we did a 15 ryes video and released it a few days back, with both of those options in the mix. Long story short: We liked both of those options, and KC Rye cracked the top 5. If you watch it, let us know your thoughts! Cheers 🥃

@@homebario I’ll check it out 🤙