Rick and Andrea Get Outside
Rick and Andrea Get Outside
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Hiking Yosemite | Glacier Point to Panorama Point
After an amazing 5-day backpacking trip through the Grand Canyon of the Tuolumne River and the Ten Lakes Basin in late August 2024, we headed up to Glacier Point. From there, we hiked the Panorama Trail to Panorama Point and back. This trail offers stunning views of Yosemite Valley, Half Dome, and several waterfalls, along with other domes, rivers, and mountains in the breathtaking Yosemite National Park.
00:00 Glacier Point Views
01:17 Panorama Trail
02:14 Illilouette Creek
03:32 Panorama Point Views
04:10 Hike Stats
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Видео

Backpacking Yosemite | Grand Canyon of the Tuolumne River | Ten Lakes Basin
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In August 2024, we embarked on a memorable 5-day, 52-mile loop hike through the Grand Canyon of the Tuolumne River and the Ten Lakes Basin in Yosemite National Park. This trek promised and delivered waterfalls, alpine lakes, and breathtaking vistas of the Sierra high country. We set off from White Wolf, descending into the canyon and tracing the Tuolumne River until reaching Pate Valley. On the...
Rae Lakes Loop via Kearsarge Pass | Kings Canyon National Park
Просмотров 8 тыс.4 месяца назад
6-day backpack trip on the beautiful Rae Lakes Loop via Kearsarge pass. 53.4 miles. Our journey began by ascending Kearsarge Pass, and we spent our first night camping at Charlotte Lake. On Day 2, we retraced our steps back to the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) and John Muir Trail (JMT), descending to Lower Vedette Meadow. There, we connected with the Bubbs Creek Trail, eventually reaching the junct...
Hiking to the Highest Point in the City of Los Angeles | Mount Lukens Loop
Просмотров 3706 месяцев назад
Day hike to the summit of Mount Lukens Hiking Mount Lukens had been a goal of ours for some time. We were attending an event north of Los Angeles on a Saturday, so we decided to spend the night and hike Mount Lukens the next day before returning to our home in San Diego. We started our hike from the Deukmejian Wilderness Park in Glendale. The parking lot was full however we found a dirt overflo...
Boy Scout Trail | Keys Peak | Joshua Tree National Park
Просмотров 2676 месяцев назад
Day hike on the Boy Scout Trail to Keys Peak in Joshua Tree National Park. 0:00 Boy Scout Trail 1:21 Climbing Keys Peak 3:28 Heading back down to the Boy Scout Trail 3:52 Hiking back to the trailhead 5:08 Hike Stats
Pacific Crest Trail | Campo to Mt Laguna | Mile 0 - 42
Просмотров 5357 месяцев назад
In April of 2024 Andrea and I hiked with our nephew Owen on the PCT from the Southern Terminus in Campo, CA northbound to mile 42, Mt Laguna. 0:00 PCT Southern Terminus 0:23 CLEEF 1:48 Day 1 5:09 Day 2 8:45 Day 3
Pacific Crest Trail | SOBO w/Friends | Mile 101 - 77
Просмотров 4298 месяцев назад
In February Andrea and I hiked with good friends Debbie, Mike (“Marmalade”), and Mike (“The Hiking Rev”) on the PCT from Barrel Springs, mile 101 southbound to mile 77, Scissors Crossing. This backpack trip is a perfect overnight with an easy car shuttle between the start and end point. Plenty of water at the Trail Angel maintained 3rd gate Water Cache with ample places to camp nearby. Views of...
Off Trail Hiking to Remote Peaks | Joshua Tree National Park
Просмотров 2609 месяцев назад
Day hike to 3 remote peaks in the Little San Bernardino Mountains in Joshua Tree National Park. After entering the park’s West Entrance, we traveled along Park Boulevard till we reached Geology Tour Road. Heading south, the road passes by many interesting rock formations as it drops down to Pleasant Valley. Once on the 4-wheel drive only one-way section, we followed the road until we were appro...
Eagle Cliff Mine & Cabin / Joshua Tree National Park
Просмотров 47610 месяцев назад
Join us for a hike to the Desert Queen Mine and the Eagle Cliff Mine and Cabin in Joshua Tree National Park. We felt like we were stepping back in time as we explored the remains of abandoned mine shafts and equipment, a rock house, and the remarkably well-preserved Eagle Cliff Miner’s Cabin. This 3.8-mile hike took us through sandy washes, past towering rock formations, spiky cactus, a few Jos...
Hiking the Sycamore Canyon Preserve in San Diego County
Просмотров 23110 месяцев назад
The Sycamore Canyon County Preserve’s 2,272 acres contains over 10 miles of trails. With friends Mike and Scott, we explored 6.6 miles of the preserve starting from the Gooden Staging area at the end of Sycamore Canyon Road in Poway, CA one afternoon in early January. We followed the Martha’s Grove Trail to the junction with Cardiac Hill, then up to the Highway 67 Staging Area. After a short br...
Silent Hiking the Anza Borrego Desert - Whale Peak
Просмотров 39411 месяцев назад
With a topographic prominence of 2,700’, Whale Peak’s summit sits high above the floor of the surrounding Anza Borrego Desert. From where we parked it was a 4.9-mile round trip to the summit which featured fantastic views of the surrounding desert including the Salton Sea. The trail is inconsistent, disappearing from time to time and occasionally marked by cairns. Moderate scrambling is require...
Eagle Rock - Day Hike on the PCT
Просмотров 350Год назад
A short 6.5-mile mostly flat hike on the Pacific Crest Trail from Warner Springs to the naturally occurring rock formation known as Eagle Rock for its remarkable resemblance to an Eagle about to take flight. Start at PCT Mile 109.5 heading southbound for a little over 3 miles. Return on the same route. Parking is available along highway 79 in Warner Springs, CA across the street from the Fireho...
Hiking Hawai’i Volcanoes National Park During an Eruption!
Просмотров 276Год назад
A wonderful day hiking in the Volcanoes National Park. We toured the Thurston Lava Tube and then hiked the Crater Rim Trail to the Kilauea Iki trail. The trail across the floor of the crater is a solidified lake of lava over 400 feet deep created when the Kilauea Iki crater erupted in 1959. We were fortunate to see the Kilauea Caldera erupting, which started the day before our visit. The lava f...
Backpacking Yosemite | High Sierra Camp Loop
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Backpacking Yosemite | High Sierra Camp Loop
Mount Tammany Day Hike, Delaware Water Gap, New Jersey
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Mount Tammany Day Hike, Delaware Water Gap, New Jersey
Day Hiking San Jacinto Peak via the Palm Springs Aerial Tram
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Day Hiking San Jacinto Peak via the Palm Springs Aerial Tram
Pacific Crest Trail - Part 9: Mile 264 - 298, Doble Trail Camp to Splinters Cabin
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Pacific Crest Trail - Part 9: Mile 264 - 298, Doble Trail Camp to Splinters Cabin
San Gorgonio Mountain via Vivian Creek Trail - SoCal’s Highest Peak
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San Gorgonio Mountain via Vivian Creek Trail - SoCal’s Highest Peak
Volcan Mountain: A Moderately Strenuous Hike with Spectacular Rewards in Julian, CA
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Volcan Mountain: A Moderately Strenuous Hike with Spectacular Rewards in Julian, CA
Pacific Crest Trail - Part 8: Mile 252 - 264, Sometimes Things Don't Go According to Plan...
Просмотров 287Год назад
Pacific Crest Trail - Part 8: Mile 252 - 264, Sometimes Things Don't Go According to Plan...
Pacific Crest Trail - Part 7: Mile 209 - 252, I-10 Hiker Oasis to Big Bear, #PCT2023
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Pacific Crest Trail - Part 7: Mile 209 - 252, I-10 Hiker Oasis to Big Bear, #PCT2023
Lost Palm Oasis Hike, Joshua Tree National Park, Mastodon Peak
Просмотров 668Год назад
Lost Palm Oasis Hike, Joshua Tree National Park, Mastodon Peak
Hiking to the Highest Point in Joshua Tree National Park
Просмотров 364Год назад
Hiking to the Highest Point in Joshua Tree National Park
Hiking Ryan Mountain In Joshua Tree National Park
Просмотров 231Год назад
Hiking Ryan Mountain In Joshua Tree National Park
Cemetery Hill and Peak 1546 Day Hike - Off the Beaten Path Hiking in San Diego, 4K
Просмотров 201Год назад
Cemetery Hill and Peak 1546 Day Hike - Off the Beaten Path Hiking in San Diego, 4K
Day Hike to Lawson Peak and Gaskill Peak, San Diego, Cleveland National Forest, 4K
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Day Hike to Lawson Peak and Gaskill Peak, San Diego, Cleveland National Forest, 4K
Day Hike to Tahquitz Peak and Red Tahquitz Peak, Idyllwild, San Jacinto State Park, 4K
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Day Hike to Tahquitz Peak and Red Tahquitz Peak, Idyllwild, San Jacinto State Park, 4K
Little Lakes Valley Day Hike, Sierra Nevada Mountains, John Muir Wilderness, 4K
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Little Lakes Valley Day Hike, Sierra Nevada Mountains, John Muir Wilderness, 4K
Backpacking Mount Langley and Cirque Peak 4K
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.2 года назад
Backpacking Mount Langley and Cirque Peak 4K
The High Sierra Trail - Surviving COVID on the HST
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The High Sierra Trail - Surviving COVID on the HST

Комментарии

  • @MarmaladeOutdoors
    @MarmaladeOutdoors День назад

    Really well done... I have been in that area once and have seen some of those views and they are so insanely beautiful that it didn't look real. It's like a live painting. You did a really good job showing it.

  • @TheHikingChick1
    @TheHikingChick1 2 дня назад

    Yosemite. Those views just never get old. Thx for sharing the hike!🌻

  • @garyday5299
    @garyday5299 3 дня назад

    So... you're doing all the setting the camera, get filmed walking by, then going back to get the camera, no 3rd person? If that's so, you two are amazingly dedicated to this!!

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside 3 дня назад

      @@garyday5299 hi Gary - yes we do all that! We really enjoy filming and editing the videos!

  • @garyday5299
    @garyday5299 4 дня назад

    Great videos! I've seen a hundred Yosemite and RMNP videos over the years. Yours are in the very top tier! Great videography, really great relaxing music, little wasted chit-chat like many others! Prefer the long videos, so get back out there, RMNP would be great.

  • @waynec96
    @waynec96 7 дней назад

    did the solar panels work as expected? if so what model did you guys used?

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside 2 дня назад

      Hi Wayne! the solar cell is a 5w cell from Amazon: a.co/d/03GWVpQ. It worked well for Andrea the whole trip, topped off her battery each day. I scratched mine early in the trip and it stopped charging. A friend has one and it worked very well for him on the HST this summer. Lightweight and not expensive.

  • @davidb1931
    @davidb1931 16 дней назад

    David certainly knew what he was talking about!

  • @davidb1931
    @davidb1931 16 дней назад

    Thanks so much for taking us along with you. We've backpacked all of our lives and with our kids. Can only do day hikes now😕. Fun being with you guys! ❤

  • @A_L0v3r-965
    @A_L0v3r-965 18 дней назад

    OMGGG! I WENT ON THAT SAME EXACT HIKE AND I LIVE THERE

  • @danpayan9468
    @danpayan9468 20 дней назад

    That hike is beautiful done several day hikes and spent 2 nights at round valley campground the boulder scamble kicked my butt

  • @melindakier1661
    @melindakier1661 23 дня назад

    Great video. Thank you

  • @melindakier1661
    @melindakier1661 23 дня назад

    All ( almost) all my backpackers I follow AND.. I love camping at black rock.

  • @jaysonbruce4774
    @jaysonbruce4774 25 дней назад

    I watched your video over the summer and I used it to guide my decision. I did a 7 day trip in July on this loop. It was amazing

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside 24 дня назад

      Oh good. Happy our video helped. Glad you enjoyed your trip. We are hoping to do another Yosemite loop next summer.

  • @rycbayarea
    @rycbayarea Месяц назад

    Very nice video of an amazing trip. It was nice running into you both this last weekend. Thanks for your tips on PCT Section hiking! I'd like to hit up some of the closer (Southern Terminus) sections in the future. If you don't mind pointing me towards resources touching on those hikes, I'd appreciate it greatly. Take care and safe travels! Richard

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      Thanks! Andrea and I really enjoyed meeting you too Richard. We suggest the book "Hiking the Pacific Crest Trail, Southern California, Section Hiking from Campo to Tuolumne Meadows" by Shawnte Salabert, Mountaineers Books - great info with plenty of detail on PCT sections. Also, I think we mentioned the app FarOut, essential data when on the trail regarding campsites and water sources. If you message me on Instagram, @rsarpolus, perhaps we can exchange email addresses. I can suggest several weekend sections with campsite and car shuttle options, too much to write here.

  • @trishlarrysnyder1008
    @trishlarrysnyder1008 Месяц назад

    What an amazing video. I hope you and Andrea are healthy and doing well. I went on the Rae lakes Loop in my 20’s ( a long time ago ) went out of Roads End and went counter clockwise around the loop that way an awesome trip.

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      Thanks Larry! Andrea and I are well and hope you and Trish had some great hiking adventures this summer. Wow, going counterclockwise looks tough. Lots of elevation gain from Roads End to Glen Pass.

  • @Stronghart
    @Stronghart Месяц назад

    I dont follow F1 since 2012, but man, the Austin GP look a fantastic site for Race fan to have a nice weekend, lots of things to do. I miss to much V10 engines sounds, hope they find their way back in the future.

  • @rkatrails
    @rkatrails Месяц назад

    Great videography of your trek. I noticed you're carrying a portable solar. May I ask the brand and your experience with it, such as how much charge you're getting out of it when you have bright sunny conditions? Thanks!

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      Hi @rkatrails - The solar panels are from Amazon: Solar Panel Charger USB Port... www.amazon.com/dp/B01MCXZJ8Y?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share. Worked well for Andrea, kept her battery charged up. Mine stopped working halfway through the trip. The panel got scratched and would not charge my battery so not sure how durable it is.

  • @rkatrails
    @rkatrails Месяц назад

    Great videography of your trek. I noticed you're carrying a portable solar. May I ask the brand and your experience with it, such as how much charge you're getting out of it when you have bright sunny conditions? Thanks!

  • @2ddw
    @2ddw Месяц назад

    At Vogelsang you showed your tent. It looked like you staked it *and* put rocks. Is the tent difficult to keep set up? Why do both?

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      @@2ddw I don't remember exactly. Usually we do that if the ground is a little soft and the stakes are not holding.

  • @JoseHernandez-jh7ht
    @JoseHernandez-jh7ht Месяц назад

    Your welcome... nice very nice

  • @2ddw
    @2ddw Месяц назад

    Beautiful videography. What month of what year? (presuming 2024)

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      @@2ddw thank you! We did this hike the first week of July 2024. The night at Rae Lakes was actually the 4th of July.

  • @derbywinner6316
    @derbywinner6316 Месяц назад

    Thank you for sharing the mapping and description of your hike.

  • @falconjob
    @falconjob Месяц назад

    Do you carry 5 days of food or restock along the way?

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      We carried 5 days. There really wasn't a good option to resupply along the way.

  • @MarmaladeOutdoors
    @MarmaladeOutdoors Месяц назад

    Very well done my friends! Truly enjoyed this and wished I had been out there with you guys. Man did you see a lot of beauty packed into just a few days. Again great job!

  • @sethjohnson9483
    @sethjohnson9483 Месяц назад

    Thank you - I watched this with my daughter and we are now planning a 2025 trip from the UK to do this and other parts of Yosemite Park.

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      @@sethjohnson9483 Awesome! You guys will have a fantastic time In Yosemite!

  • @chili1593
    @chili1593 Месяц назад

    Excellent. Loved the mapping. Thanks

  • @LivingMoreFully
    @LivingMoreFully Месяц назад

    You two are soooo inspiring! I'm putting this one on my list for 2025....thanks again!

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      @@LivingMoreFully yes! This is a great one. I'm sure you will enjoy this trip!

  • @MiBellaAlma
    @MiBellaAlma Месяц назад

    So beautiful and peaceful. Thank you for sharing.

  • @wolfeadventures
    @wolfeadventures Месяц назад

    I keep saying it Rick, but the editing is just on another level! Video is especially sharp and detailed. Fantastic video and the views are insane! Are those the Lixada 5w solar panels? How did they work out for you?

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      @@wolfeadventures Thanks Brad! Yes, those are the Lixada 5w cells. Same as Mike I think. Worked great the whole trip for Andrea, topped off her battery most days. I scratched mine on some branches early in the trip and it would not charge aftwards so not sure about durability. Mike used his on the HST, said it worked great.

  • @JoseHernandez-jh7ht
    @JoseHernandez-jh7ht Месяц назад

    You folks are awesome good video of your excursion good team work also helps... till the next time "happy trails"

  • @jhnfrrguto
    @jhnfrrguto Месяц назад

    Great videography and photos of your adventure thanks for sharing. Yosemite and Tuolumne meadows is beautiful. 🙏

  • @AdventuresoftheLandNorth
    @AdventuresoftheLandNorth Месяц назад

    Great area. What an awesome loop. Definitely going on my list for some day, hopefully. Can you share the small solar panels you guys had on your packs. They look perfect

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      Hi @@AdventuresoftheLandNorth the solar cell is a 5w cell from Amazon: a.co/d/03GWVpQ. It worked well for Andrea the whole trip, topped off her battery each day. I scratched my early in the trip and it stopped charging. A friend has one and it worked very well for him on the HST this summer. Lightweight and not expensive.

  • @dcalcano
    @dcalcano Месяц назад

    How was the temperature during the day and night ?

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      Nights were very pleasant, not cold at all. Day time temps were quite warm in the canyon, cooler up in the basin.

  • @dcalcano
    @dcalcano Месяц назад

    Love the video, planning to do the High Sierra Loop next summer.

  • @jasonkamm5537
    @jasonkamm5537 Месяц назад

    Wow! What a great trip and perfect video that you made. Thanks for sharing and excellent job on the video. One of the best I've seen (and I've watched many) and gives me another trip to put on the bucket list

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      Thanks Jason!

    • @jasonkamm5537
      @jasonkamm5537 Месяц назад

      @RickandAndreaGetOutside if you could only pick 1, which Yosemite hike would you pick, this one or the high sierra camp loop?

  • @trishlarrysnyder1008
    @trishlarrysnyder1008 Месяц назад

    Thanks for sharing your awesome adventure in the High Sierra’s.. I will be out there next summer hope to see you on the trail 😁

  • @AbelTravel
    @AbelTravel Месяц назад

    You two are having a great adventure outdoors. Thanks for taking us along with you. Wonderful musical selections.

  • @stevekigawa7735
    @stevekigawa7735 Месяц назад

    Gorgeous love your "loop" much preferred to "out-n-back". BTW what solar panel are you using (watts/weight and how efficient was it?) I am looking for a good alternative to multiple battery banks for longer trips.

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      Hi Steve. The solar panels are from Amazon: Solar Panel Charger USB Port... www.amazon.com/dp/B01MCXZJ8Y?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share. Worked well for Andrea, kept her battery charged up. Mine stopped working halfway through the trip. The panel got scratched and would not charge my battery so not sure how durable it is.

  • @OutdoorActionPhoto
    @OutdoorActionPhoto Месяц назад

    Thank you. It’s been awhile and I missed your content. Loved the sound track too.

  • @cjjt66
    @cjjt66 Месяц назад

    Great video. Excellent footage. I appreciate the captions. The music is too much. I enjoy the sounds of nature & hiking better. Many thanks.

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      @@cjjt66 thanks Christopher. Appreciate the comment about the music. I know there is a growing genre of silent hiking videos with little or no music. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @DayInParadise
    @DayInParadise Месяц назад

    You create great content. You have gained a new subscriber! 💕

  • @DayInParadise
    @DayInParadise Месяц назад

    Hello hiking friends. What an amazing video presentation. Beautiful scenery! Thank you for sharing your journey. 💕

  • @hope2someday691
    @hope2someday691 Месяц назад

    Great trail. Loved the scenery and those gnarled old Juniper trees. I’m curious about what you two ate? I struggle to get more than five days food in a bear canister. Happy trails.

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      @@hope2someday691 thanks! We usually have the standard dehydrated meals for dinner, I like tortillas with chicken from the foil packs for lunch. Snacks are cliff bars, beef sticks etc. We have the Bearicade Weekender bear canisters and have been able to squeeze in 7 days of food a few times. For those trips we vacuum seal the contents of the dehydrated meals, takes up a lot less space.

  • @tahcandiloro
    @tahcandiloro Месяц назад

    Stunning scenery! Thank you for sharing 😊 A few years ago I got to backpack Glen Aulin to Waterwheel Falls. For the past 2 years I got permits to do the Grand Canyon of the Toulumne & have had to cancel due to work conflicts- Super Bummed! Hoping next year is the year, 3rd times a charm right?! Your video has me reconsidering a point to point & maybe doing it as a loop!

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside Месяц назад

      @@tahcandiloro definitely make a loop out if it if you can. You could easily start this loop from Tuolumne, head down through the canyon to White Wolf and then to the Ten Lakes Basin before returning to Tuolumne Meadows. Thanks for watching!

  • @texashikeaholicsadventures
    @texashikeaholicsadventures Месяц назад

    Really beautiful video!!

  • @ScottBussing
    @ScottBussing Месяц назад

    Extremely well done video!

  • @melindakier1661
    @melindakier1661 Месяц назад

    I was right there with you in spirit. Ty. Great adventure

  • @youngheart1065
    @youngheart1065 2 месяца назад

    Marmalade just shared this with me. Wow!

  • @LivingMoreFully
    @LivingMoreFully 2 месяца назад

    Thanks again for your videos....so helpful! I'm trying to figure out which backcountry camping zones are where the campsites you recommend so I can do this next Winter season: Juniper Flats & Twin Tanks? www.nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/backpacking.htm The park map is kinda unclear to me.

  • @wakeupjyoo
    @wakeupjyoo 2 месяца назад

    Wow! Couldn't take my eyes away from +30minutes of video by 'senior' people (Pardon me). Not boring, Not educational, Not too personal either. Very NICE work! (Like + Subscribe and now commenting) I plan to do conventional loop starting at Woods Creek on 9/28 with two other friends. Hopefully I will enjoy the whole trip like you did. Thank you!

    • @RickandAndreaGetOutside
      @RickandAndreaGetOutside 2 месяца назад

      Thanks! Definitely consider myself a senior, ha! Enjoy your hike on the Rae Lakes Loop!

  • @Ericidryfly
    @Ericidryfly 2 месяца назад

    Rick and Andrea what a beautiful video. Hope to do the Rae lake loop next year… Eric