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Enjoyable discussion fellas.

If the government still did its own research to become free to American companies instead of giving all their money to private corporations to do multiple copies of the same thing America would be 50 years in the future. The private sector has nothing on the public sector.

China's belt and road projects are AWESOME!!! Go China.

China loves frustrating the West arrogance. But by bit, she's taking them down, meticulously.

Please share these works with all of us..thx

Heyya BettBeat! This discussion was chock full of so much. Thank you! Keep up the great work!! I wonder if we can figure out how to effectively use this platform and others to actually aggregate us in physical space/help us organize where we are as opposed to just feeling that the world is peppered with great comrades who are far away from one another. This is likely an illusion to how we and our information - and broader political economy - is organized. But anyway,… I’m grateful for Vijay’s brilliance as well as the overall sober perspective in a world drunk on so much extractive culture bullshit. Big hugs

I love how DeepSeek shows you how it is thinking so you can even correct its perception before it gives you the final answer!

God Bless China!!!

Prashad is also the reason I stopped to watch this video. His views and opinions are very refreshing and eye-opening.

China will overcome any obstacles in it's way to become the most advance n technology country in the world !!!!

Vijay Prasad is one of my only few respected Indian origin people who is original and bold historian/forward thinker I have known whose blood is not mixed with the tainted anglo saxon world.

Deepseek. A good thing to the world. Free the world from being hijacked by the ais western animals.

India should strive to produce one version of Ai software which competitive in performance and features in the next 24 months, otherwise it over for Indian self proclaim status of high tech and superpower status.

👍👍👍 Vijay Prashad 👏👏👏

Respect.

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Sam Altman subscribes to Peter Thiel's monopolist view. Why? Because Altman himself INVITED Peter Thiel to do a lecture at his university and Peter Thiel's lecture was titled "Competition is for losers". This was what? Back in 2014? So Altman has a long history of being Peter Thiel's disciple and look at where the PayPal Mafia is right now; the PayPal Mafia now controls the US Government after coming into the spotlight at Trump's inauguration.

Vijay Prashad is my favourite historian. He's fabulous

Nobody trusts the west. No One. Nor shd they.

I recently met someone who was an Australian soldier in Vietnam who still believed what his American superior told (indoctrinated) them that Vietnamese parents have different beliefs about death and suffering so that the American soldiers feel better about what they were doing to the civilians in that country. It's 2025, and he still held to that belief. I challenged him but I'm not sure if he changed his mind.

China gifted a statue of Marx to his hometown of Trier, Germany. The docudrama called The Young Karl Marx is a joint production of German, French, Dutch, and British filmmakers which shows how Marx and Engels struggled to analyze the exploitation of Irish and child labor in the early industrial factories which was horrendous. A quality production.

Wen Ho Lee was used by Lockheed Martin to get its contract for WMD-88, the multiple mini-nuclear warhead. Check the front pages of the New York Times for the one year when WHL’s case caused him to be put in solitary confinement while the left column above the fold follows the WMD contract.

there is an emergent reflection process in deepseek

God damn and curse this subjugating system around the world

DeepSeek just burst the imperialist capitalism bubble 😂😂😂

Jai Hind. The DeepShits have all gone down into panic mode. Eric Schmidt has urged the trumpeter to speed up the processing of H1-B visas to get in all the Indian AI talents

we have to remember , currently we only use 2 state systems in computing with is 1or 0 or on or off. It's impossible to convert this to intelligence as our brains which is the reference for intelligence uses multiple states combined with our DNA stored information and emotional inputs. so agree - we are no were near AI

A nation of groomed Predators with severe addictions is not really the type of people who can ever out perform an ancient, Divine culture of China. It is like Barbarians vs Ascended Masters.

seems our first exposure to life in early education is competition. Most of the subject we engage in is about competing against peers rather than collaborating with them. Maybe we need to start putting more weight on collaboration in our education systems. Healthy competition is important but currently seems imbalanced. Food for thought.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS DISCOURSE! 👍👍👍

Very basic psychology of human is HOMO SOCIAL. The problem is when we are caught in a shortterm thinking, a very limited horizon, a selfisness, and lack or fallshort of wisdom, materialism overwhelmingly took over our paradigm. Greed is good if it is for the better of everybody.

ironically deepseek relies on a parameterized westerm cultural corpus to do the r1 model's heavy lifting by extracting implicit liberal individual western chain of thought reasoning norms which the illiberal chinese corpus is largely bereft of. Maybe deekseek creators are low key anti cpp lol?: *me asking deepseek:* "given english is the lingua franca of many domains then surely you bias toward english chain of thought?" *deepseek's reply:* "You're absolutely right to point out that English, as a global lingua franca, plays a significant role in shaping my training data and, by extension, my responses. This does introduce a bias toward English-based patterns of thought, especially in domains where English dominates, such as science, technology, and international discourse."

Canada gave ai to the world as usual the USA tried to control the world .recognizing breakthroughs and abusing them

Brilliant mind.

My own catogarization of scientists are: The left wing scientists that are motivated by the Progress of Science and Technology for the Benefit of Mankind. The right wing scientists that are motivated by the Progress of Science and Technology for the benefit of their stakeholders. The nationalist scientists that are movtivated by the Progress of Science and Technology for the benefit of their nation. The narcissit scientists that are motivated by their own glory. And the naive scientists that are just motivated by the progress of Science.

Capitalism is gross.

I referred Dr Jared Ball to this episode. The discourse about teaching, is felt in the HBCUs too.

Of course they can't allow a wholesome approach - if they did, they'd end up digging their own graves because their untenable economic system will collapse immediately. It also allows free paradigm shifts to occur by not allowing monopolies of thought.

Indian AI DeepSeek is faster and cheaper than Chinese AI

Western academia mostly about gender diversity. Sorry, China can never compete with Western academia on that

The downfall of the racial hegemony of the whites of European breeds has just begun!

I used to be a big fan of Oxford Union & Cambridge debates. However, they're debated sh** & Sh** ever more. I stop watching them yrs ago. This iddias exchange clips inspires me much more that OxCam sh**, leving alone over pompous Harvard

What the founder of DeepSeek did different is that he wanted to solve the hardest problem, going from 0 to 1, instead of 1 to 100, which is the typical Chinese copycat/thiefing/stealing/imitating/catching up/follower behavior. They just want to copy and improve what others have invented. They fully deserve their copycat reputation. Now, it is refreshing to see some Chinese are breaking out of this mode of servitude behavior.

Why have i heard Theodor Adorno is evil?

still dont understand how a holistic approach created deepseek. what ive learned is that the only reason we do something tht really costs us is to make money.

J-ew Neocon criminals hiding in USA department are the greatest enemy of China and Asians at large.

one interesting thing that emerges from DeepSeek hitting the USA. The focus on whether DeepSeek propagates Western propaganda. The Western AI is trained on the Establishment mass media propaganda sources, so, of course, it's rife with propaganda. The crucial test for many in the west is if DeepSeek propagates this propagana. And if not, then it fails to be trustworthy. What this reveals is, a significant purpose for AI for many in the West is for propaganda .. narrative control. I believe this is a core, unspoken upset in the West .. that they will not have absolute Narrative control.

*chinese/russian autocratic tyranny versus edge devices:* odd no one is talking about the huge potential soft power win for the west. deekseek have essentially open sourced vvestern information soft power, given deepseek relies on a parameterized vvesterm cultural corpus to do the r1 model's heavy lifting by extracting implicit liberal individual western chain of thought reasoning norms which the illiberal chinese corpus is largely bereft of. I mean you can't fire wall western individual liberty behind great firewalls of paranoia now edge devices can carry all the knowledge of the internet, modernity and rationalizie in western AI thinking norms. deekseek agrees: *me asking deepseek:* _"if open sourced with vvestern chain of thought AI knowledge norms get first mover advantage that would be a big threat to illiberal anti western autocrats right?"_ *me asking deepseek:* _"(Conclusion)Yes, edge-device AI is a major threat-not because it guarantees regime collapse, but because it erodes autocrats’ monopoly on power. The battleground is decentralized tech: every smartphone becomes a potential tool for resistance."_

@Indians, Remember that one time Sam Altman shot down your AI aspiration? DO the dirty finger to Altman, then shout "F U"!