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Didn't you do well, a box full of paper with nine items in it, certainly not worth the money 😮,

Great video! We British love our trains and we are spoilt for choice especially the miniature ones. I can think of at least half a dozen near me! Love em' all! We are so lucky in the UK! Thanks for sharing! Cheers Malcolm

I've just got into trains since taking early retirement. I'm only 56 and quite comfortable off. I've got a spare room and now that I live a!one I can do what I want without being nagged to death.😁 but I was expecting to pay something like £65/85 for a class 43. I think I will just stick to watching trains on RUclips and I can get an veterans railcard and jump down to Portsmouth and see a few old shipmates who settled there after the navy. I live in Glasgow so I'm spoilt for railway connections.

Youve allways got the option to replace the motor with cd motor. Theres is also the option of lighting kit upgrades to give you directional red tail lighting which are very cheap. If you want to upgrade to dcc its very easy to. If you have the older hst, stick with it and upgrade it

Interesting video Matt, I always wondered about the quality and value, so it's good to see, thanks.

i have a few of the hst,s thy are all boxed up as we moved house last year and who in their right mind would pay over £400 for model train no wonder hornby are going bust they as you say pricing them selves out of the market after all its a hobby

So... some of the price increase is inflation. Some of the price increase is due to everything coming with DCC and sound (or at least DCC-compatible circuitry and a built-in speaker) out of the box. But some of it's just, well... I'm not necessarily going to say greed outright because there can be a few other reasons why a company might do this, ranging from corporate greed to shareholder demands and even a poorly thought-out attempt to simply get out of a deficit without concern for the inevitable decrease in sales, but it's arbitrary price hikes.

Hi there I’m a new subscriber I enjoyed watching this video thanks 😊👍

I quite agree. I still have the original Hornby HST model in the BR blue & grey livery. Perfect condition, always looked after it. Although, I shouldn't think it works now ... must give it a go some time. My only misgiving is that the original Hornby Mark 3 coaches are very under-scale. Thanks for vid

Hornby slit cars are dilly money now. Scalextric are in the £50/55 range, nice bodyshells but rubbish underneath unless its magnets on a home track. Slot it at £62/65 are much more sccurate and handle really well. My HST dates from a new purchse in about 1980 from a Manchester city centre model shop. Runs with Jouef coaches i bought at the same time, still happy with it ..

the bedford truck is an emergency bridging unit , it has nothing to do with overhead wires as they have trains for that , the platform would have been for inspecting the undersides of bridges after impacts from cars and they also repaired fractured rails etc , they have a generator for lights and an air compressor for tools

I noticed you could hear the kids having fun and the bonus was a treat. Great video, Jersey Bill

Nice hall for very little money and lots of enjoyment. Jersey Bill

I have these in a sea blue GWR paint but they're broken.

Makes one wonder how many units Hornby sell nowadays ?

Always fun watching you opening these Matt. Pity about the duplicates but there's always eBay😉.

Totally agree with you I have two lima hst sets one virgin one gwr sets also with lights have upgraded to led lights much better and run great I never but expensive stuff I always look for bargains company's have gone mad on details and that's what has pushed prices over the edge so my advice is always look for deals anyway all the best Michael 👍

Very good,can't remember when we went 😱😱

Hornby/Corgi pricing is a joke , people can't afford the stuff at their prices these days

I found a comment on TripAdvisor titled 'Help this shop and museum before its gone for good' which was added in March this year. Sadly it does sound as if this place is on its last legs, according to the review the owner is in his 90's and I guess that no one has the cash reserves to take it on and invest what's needed to bring it back to life. We visited back in 2022 and everything was looking pretty tired then but it was still a lovely place to visit. Unfortunately the miniature tramway had been closed down due to a fallen tree having smashed some of the infrastructure which wasn't going to be repaired. I guess we can only hope that what's left can be saved and revived in some way.

The ex-LNWR miniature arm ground signal came from Llanrwst station. The LNWR revolving head ground signal with two discs may have come from Aber on the Bangor to Chester line. The Disc faces are an LMS upgrade.

Problem is that the market is shrinking as the hobby shrinks and the R and D needs to be spread over less and less . Soon there will be nothing to whine about as Hornby won’t be here .

Hornby prices are getting a little bit too high compared to some other manufacturers. Stay safe mate

I bought a set as I wanted a HST on he layout but I have to agree it is far too expensive and doesn't feel like good value for money. They are nice enough but not that great to be honest.

I resto-modified a pair of HST power cars the same as these many years ago, I fitted newer motors to both cars that came from the newer Virgin HST power cars along with the newer bogie sets with all wheel electrical power pickups, the newer motors did not use traction tyres. I also fitted bi-directional LED lights. The reason for two power cars was because the single bogie drive of the old Hornby power car was incapable of hauling a prototypical rake of 7-9 coaches, even the shorter Hornby supplied mark 3s that came with the sets. The newer Hornby models are far superior to the old stock but at over £400 they are way over priced for what is essentially a loco & a coach.

It's Belle:-) How she'd look in the Railway Series without those stupid water cannons!

congratulations you just saved £450.

They know the market, they know that the model rail market will pay £400 for something that’s really worth £100. It’s your own faults.

I thought I got vfm when I was there👍👍 very good😎😎

The missing loco is a large possibly 10in gauge Britannia. It was there last year. Yes the large North West area in the 1950s in M gauge has gone. In my opinion the museum is one of the best railway attractions going and still retaining its charm of a family run attraction. Over the past 2-3 years it has been in need of some maintenance , however I guess that the costs involved are quite challenging. Great model shop. I hope that it keeps going.

Haven't bought many new models for several years. I have a good standard of living but many of today's prices are just incomprehensible. 2ns hand ebay purchases for me all the way.

Total RIP OFF

no matter how run down it is more than worth it , we have to remember most will be volounteers an two quid won't even get you half a pint nowadays

The new HSTs with the modern chassis are far superior to the models you have there. Yes £400 is very pricey but the models you have there are frankly rubbish by todaý standard. Its like claiming the Accurascale Deltic is overpriced at £180 odd because you can buy a Lima Deltic from 1980 for £30. The argument doesn't stand up. I have two full HSTs. One is of the latest type, all singing. The other the last of the ringfield types made in China with superior finish and blackened wheels etc. These are worth modernizing with the light kit and replacment motor kit. The dummy has also been powered so gives a good performance. The origonal models with the 'short' coaches are well past there sell buy date.

It makes you wonder if they are updating or preparing to close the doors let's hope it is the former. This is a very interesting spot and again I envy the availability you have to places like this. Great video. Jersey Bill

Can’t believe they cost that much for a ringfield motor! I have the early 80’s model. Changed out the motor for a cd drive. Runs beautifully now

I too really like to support Hornby, and recently purchased 2 Hornby Diesel locos with HM7000 already installed, admittedly Railroad Plus, but they look good enough on the layout, and cost under GBP100, I just added a bit of weight and installed a Blackcat lighting chip and it's still an inexpensive entry level model. I totally agree with you on the price of the Class 43, it must of covered its initial tooling cost a thousand times over, and even though it is a new tooling it doesn't justify GBP450. The thing I notice is that all prices are going up, or will go up, but Hornby gets all the flack, and in some cases unjustified, the new management aren't fools, but the company is in a dire financial state, and has recently, and is still conducting fire sales through the retailers (as are Heljan), hopefully they will pull through, and sales so far this year are looking up, and their financiers are still willing to back them, so fingers crossed. As a comparison, I bought a Heljan Class 57, on sale at GBP109 , a good loco, added an HM7000 decoder, great! However, all the great buffer detail was pre-fitted, which meant stripping the buffer at least on one end to get a coupling in the NEM pocket, also with the RRP of GBP159, for an old tooling, is a bit rich, however, with a few things that could have been addressed with a new tooling, then perhaps the GBP159 would be justified. ......Drew

Not a drop of oil any where to be seen ,Brocken case clips ,and generally a rush job ,not in the same league as 00Bill.

Never purchased anything Hornby and never will, detail is poor and yes cost is ridiculous

That would be about $NZ420.00. For that money I could buy groceries for two for more than two weeks, or stay in a 5* motel for two nights. Not purchasing at that price!

wow, are Hornby on crack? keep going like that with prices there will be no Hornby as they will drive new comers to the hobby away.... well played Hornby.

Hornby have a crazy approach to marketing at the moment which unfortunately if leading to their demise. What a shame for everyone.

For about £225 pounds, you can add a sound DCC chip into the HST with some of the great speakers available, your neighbour will be thinking there's a Class 43 about to crash through the adjoining wall, they're that loud these days! Plus, Oxford Rail was selling MKIiI coaches at great prices, even brand new, to make a complete HST set for the same price. A few years ago, whilst I was in the trade, I used to shudder at three things Hornby did. They had a captive market with pre-orders, I don't think they understood this or if they did never conveyed to the marketplace. If they'd delivered when they promised, under promised and over delivered, everyone would have been happy! Having a consistent pricing banding for various wheel arrangements. Between Hornby's three Brands Hornby, Railroad, Oxford Rail, you could have various levels of detail per brand and priced accordingly. To take people to the next level you could brought the Airfix range back and have as a self detailing model c/w instructions on how to do it!

I have 6 sets of the old Hornby and Lima HSTs, I love em. I have the original "Correct length coaches" (longer), before they were shrunk and manufactured with acetate sides, I also aquired 2 full sets including First and Buffet in Virgin livery but these were manufactured with the shorter length coaches. I agree that the pricing for the newer models is a tad too much, especially since the older models can be improved consideably by a competant modeller. I got my first HST in 1982 and its still running fine 42 years later.

The 40th anniversary pack released in 2016 was £179.99 new. 8 years later, I know there are some tooling improvements and it has the TXS sound but that is still well above inflation. I'm glad I got my Anniversary pack in 2017 for £149.99, even though I still have my original blue set from when I was 3, the 2010 on model is much better.

New sub here 👍🏻 excellent video do you do n gauge

If both units were motorised, then maybe over £400, but no, I just update the lighting with led`s and use 2 driving units from 2 sets bought on ebay wire them for 8 pin decoders buy 2 normal decoders or 2 HM 7000, job done and they run awesome.

Its a great HST model and Hornby released this in their 1986 range of model trains. As much as I like Hornby, they have and are continuing to price a lot of us out of the hobby and I would also like to mention the Lima version from the 1980's is also a good alternative as Lima did one of the best HST models of the 1980's. I did hear that Hornby are having financial problems but as of late, they continue to keep on upping the prices and closing off more and more of us that want to support them. I will just hold off for a sale and I will buy from Cavalex Models and Accurascale as they do give value back to the customer. Great video mate and all the best. Peter.

Sad to see such junk on the market and to think they have the audacity to ask an insane amount of money for it. It's just terrible to see such garbage come on the market. Glad I model narrow gauge and don't ever have to consider this. It's like the 1970's all over again with what are literally toy trains that were cheap and nasty. I reall the junk that LIMA made only too well.

Hornsby has turned into a complete rip-off