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Project VALUKA (previously The Hexenzirkel): A mysterious roundtable of extremely powerful Witches in Teyvat, keeping their eyes on all manner of happenings...
We are an only slightly less mysterious roundtable of storytcrafters, historians, and all types of folks who love theory crafting in the worlds of our favorite videogames and the deep lore found within. For now, we're mostly talking about Genshin Impact, but you might see us branch into other worlds as well. After all, the power of the Hexenzirkel is terribly mysterious: and we. See. Everything. ;)
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We are an only slightly less mysterious roundtable of storytcrafters, historians, and all types of folks who love theory crafting in the worlds of our favorite videogames and the deep lore found within. For now, we're mostly talking about Genshin Impact, but you might see us branch into other worlds as well. After all, the power of the Hexenzirkel is terribly mysterious: and we. See. Everything. ;)
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The Origin of Amphoreus: From Aglaea to Phainon, The Flame-Chasers Explained
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This is my first official foray into the Honkai Star Rail side of things, but... The Hoyoverse is vast! This video took me a ridiculously long time to get put together, so I hope it's of some interest/help to somebody.
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This is my first official foray into the Honkai Star Rail side of things, but... The Hoyoverse is vast! This video took me a ridiculously long time to get put together, so I hope it's of some interest/help to somebody.
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2nd Key Chapter 3: Circle of Karma (fully voiced Honkai Impact 3rd manga)
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Join this channel to get help us keep making great videos: ruclips.net/channel/UCRSERVJLR72iirtFJngIl2Qjoin Support directly on Ko-fi: ko-fi.com/projectvaluka Project VALUKA on Twitter: project_VALUKA There were a few audio blips in this I'm not happy with buuuuut my almost 6 year old pc died just as I was finishing up, and even with gutting the old one and hooking the drives into t...
2nd Key Chapter 2: Seed of Sumeru (fully voiced Honkai Impact 3rd manga)
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2nd Key Chapter 1: Ephemeral (fully voiced Honkai Impact 3rd manga)
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Honkai Impact 3rd: Second Key trailer
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Spoilers!!! Chenyu Vale Roundup
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A roundup of new information about the Adepti, the Celestial Nails, and the controversial identity of Herblord! Join this channel to get help us keep making great videos: ruclips.net/channel/UCRSERVJLR72iirtFJngIl2Qjoin Support directly on Ko-fi: ko-fi.com/thehexenzirkel The Hexenzirkel on Twitter: project_VALUKA
Teyvat Audio books: Books from Sangonomiya
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A collection of four books that aren't part of any series found around Sangonomiya. Details the known history of the island as well as legends about Enkanomiya which were mostly used to tease the area before its release. The Sangonomiya Chornicles, The Serpents and Drakes of Tokoyokoku, and Debates on the Viceroy of the East. Join this channel to get help us keep making great videos: ruclips.ne...
Rhinedottir: Her name, Alchemy, and Wagner's Ring Cycle
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Teyvat is already doomed (kind of) Sinking in the Sea of Quanta: An HI3 theory
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Teyvat Audiobooks: Moonlit Bamboo Forest
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Join this channel to get help us keep making great videos: ruclips.net/channel/UCRSERVJLR72iirtFJngIl2Qjoin Support directly on Ko-fi: ko-fi.com/thehexenzirkel follow me on twitter! project_VALUKA This book series is pretty interesting. Is it another tale of one of Rex Lapis' sojourns in a different form or something else? Reading this brought to mind about how texts in Sumeru sugge...
Albedo retrospective (New Character lore series!)
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Teyvat Audiobooks: Heart's Desire
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Join this channel to get help us keep making great videos: ruclips.net/channel/UCRSERVJLR72iirtFJngIl2Qjoin Support directly on Ko-fi: ko-fi.com/thehexenzirkel follow me on twitter! project_VALUKA This story is an interesting one. It reminded me a lot of Rex Incognito, and I can't help but wonder if they're connected especially with a shopkeeper with eyes the color of Cor Lapis and ...
Imaginary Teyvat: The Imaginary Tree, the Sea of Quanta and Ouroboros
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Join this channel to get help us keep making great videos: ruclips.net/channel/UCRSERVJLR72iirtFJngIl2Qjoin Support directly on Ko-fi:ko-fi.com/thehexenzirkel follow me on twitter! project_VALUKA No, seriously: read the Second Key manga. manga.honkaiimpact3.com/book/1014 So this video took me almost a month if not more, thinking and writing and re-writing. It's a bit more reaching t...
Blooper Reel 1: Ganymede Can't Read
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Almost 5k Subscribers and counting! + Upcoming AMA
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We're pretty close to 5k, and I'm super grateful! I'm in the midst of editing my next theory/lore deep dive, but wanted to post this little update for you all in the meantime. Join this channel to get help us keep making great videos: ruclips.net/channel/UCRSERVJLR72iirtFJngIl2Qjoin Support directly on Ko-fi: ko-fi.com/thehexenzirkel
Rex Incognito & Customs of Liyue: Teyvat Audiobooks
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Rex Incognito & Customs of Liyue: Teyvat Audiobooks
Golden Troupe artifact lore and Remuria
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Golden Troupe artifact lore and Remuria
Vishaps, Visions, and Neuillette: Fontaine Lore Breakdown
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Vishaps, Visions, and Neuillette: Fontaine Lore Breakdown
The Narzissenkreuz Ordo and the Book of Esoteric Revelations
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The Narzissenkreuz Ordo and the Book of Esoteric Revelations
IRAS 17514 (Imaginary Version) Thus Spoke Apocalypse Honkai Impact 3rd Extended Cover
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IRAS 17514 (Imaginary Version) Thus Spoke Apocalypse Honkai Impact 3rd Extended Cover
Genshin theory nerd goes down the Honkai rabbit hole
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Genshin theory nerd goes down the Honkai rabbit hole
Genshin Lore: Domains and the Withered White Trees
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Genshin Lore: Domains and the Withered White Trees
Teyvat Audiobooks: Scroll of Streaming Song and The Tale of Shiruyeh and Shirin
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Teyvat Audiobooks: Scroll of Streaming Song and The Tale of Shiruyeh and Shirin
Genshin Lore || Teyvat Audiobooks: The Diary of Roald the Adventurer
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Genshin Lore || Teyvat Audiobooks: The Diary of Roald the Adventurer
Genshin Lore|| Vishaps and Primordial life: Dragons in Teyvat
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Genshin Lore|| Vishaps and Primordial life: Dragons in Teyvat
Genshin Impact: Teyvat Audiobooks: The Byakuyakoku Collection
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Genshin Impact: Teyvat Audiobooks: The Byakuyakoku Collection
Genshin Impact lore: Visions and Gnosticism
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Genshin Impact lore: Visions and Gnosticism
Genshin Impact Lore: Teyvat Audiobooks: Vera's Melancholy
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Genshin Impact Lore: Teyvat Audiobooks: Vera's Melancholy
Khaenri'ah's Etymology and the resurrection of Teyvat's Prehistoric Unified Civilization
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Khaenri'ah's Etymology and the resurrection of Teyvat's Prehistoric Unified Civilization
I watched this video when it came out and really enjoyed it, but coming back to say that I am surprised (and maybe a little disappointed) to see that Tribbie is more analogous to Mobius now with the additional information we have now (Tribbie's divine authority being gate of infinity, them sharing a cn va, I even saw a comparison of Mobius' summon to Tribbie) I think everyone was surprised by this one, but we were speculating with next to nothing lol.
Phainon’s cn name is 白厄 which means white calamity. Kevin moment
When Pardo expy came in It was oh yes... then Kebin expy came out it was: they are doing it. Then Cyrene/Ely came out Pink Jesus is back. I will never financially recover after this.
We have the same thoughts on the Flamechaser counterpart 😉.
hard to make connections through mydei's appearance since he's obviously a hoyo'fied gilgamesh (fate collab) but thank you for this vid! been very interested in hi3rd lore since penacony but was always too intimidated to look into it myself. this vid on my main page was a blessing!
also want to add that the female hand placing a chess piece could also be a reference to an unnamed lord ravager. one of the readables on the luofu called "list of archenemies" describes them as akin to a chess grandmaster. star rail has been slowly and quietly cooking up the nanook plotline.
Not trying to come at you by any means since you are by far not the first person I've seen to voice this theory so don't take this the wrong way, but why would a company want to do a collab with another game when the character they insert goes by a completely different name and has a different appearance? The whole draw of a collaboration is to insert the actual character into another IP and interact with the character of that IP. When Genshin had a collab with Horizon Zero Dawn, we literally just got Aloy. In the HI3 and NGE collab, we got Asuka. HI3 and HSR, we got Sparkle. People who like Fate aren't going to be as excited for "guy who kinda looks and acts like a Fate character" as they are about the Actual Fate character. So Mydei being Gilgamesh is extremely unlikely from a business standpoint, as well as taking HYV's history with collabs into account.
@@hollow-point0 that's very interesting, i haven't thought about it that way. however why would they make him so similar to gilgamesh from a design standpoint? the tattoos, the necklace, the golden armour, the red capes. i assumed they'd treat fate characters like they treat their expys aka integrating them into their own world and story.
@@liv4110 It could just be a nod to him, as its not uncommon for ANY piece of media to have respectful homages to other beloved media within their own IP. But yeah that just isn't how collabs work- in hyv collabs, itll be an event period and then they'll be gone, like stopping on a planet and moving on, for instance. We also have to consider that Mydei will release within the next several months and the Fate collab isn't slated until 3rd quarter of 2025, which will be around the time that Amphoeus is either already wrapped up or is in the process of wrapping up, meaning that having a Fate character released significantly earlier than the collab release also doesn't make much sense. But no, collabs are not integrated into the larger story unless they are specifically a character within the hyv IP, bc collabs are only ever for a specific timeframe, not to mention how complicated it would be to have a returning character from another company entirely- it wouldn't be in the contract bc it would be a nightmare to account for reruns, continued story, etc etc.
@hollow-point0 thank you for your insight! i'll keep this in mind going forward :) i don't have experience with game collabs and i rarely come across channels like this so most of my "knowledge" comes from reddit which im aware is largely an echo chamber. excited for amphoreus!
Just wanna add that Aglea's rapier sword is actually a giant sewing needle.
Really great video! Your voice is so relaxing
Thank you so much 🙂
OMG legendary return
Thank you for making this video. It helped me to put order in several things that have been in my mind... ❤
Glad it was helpful!
I need Acheron to go there too for some reason
I LOVE!! WHEN people point out connections between the games. Its something really huge but a lot of ppl dont recognize because they dont play all 3 games or maybe even only one. Thank u for sharing the video.
Im literally so hyped I'm trembling
Great vid though there were times that the music made listening to you difficult so maybe lower it down next time
Talking abt Fontaine being sus on Honkai stuff.. What are your thoughts on the "overflowing of light" that allegedly appeared after touching the first Statue of the Seven in Fontaine? I say "allegedly" because there was no visual of that shown and just text shown that Paimon said (without audio) when she asks if we we're alright due to the sudden said "overflowing of light". My best honkai related guess is that due to the hydro element and is lore regarding the primordial sea has connections to the authority of the Herrscher of Death/Rebirth. And that it's only a slight nod to how similar the traveler twins are with blue and red Seeles if not a big foreshadowing.
(sorry if this is worded badly) I kinda thought that with Guns Girls Z being called "Era: Zero" and with each game being the next Era.. and what I think that Honkai Impact being the first Era after GGZ being the version of the samsara cycle that's happening with that honkai's story could be the one that is mostly similar to GGZs like the "variations" to Project S.A.V.E and specifically with Project Valuka (the hi3 one) using the 2nd Divine Key "Key of Infinity" with Valuka being used to "find a world that has successfully destroyed the honkai" could the reason that there are descenders could be that since Tevyat is the closest to doing so.. could they but with that could each descenders have be using the samsara cycle to help them find a way thr successfully destory the honkai once and for all in this world but with the samsara cycles could they be pre-made timelines based off of the previous one (especially after the second who came) that the "dream" or samsara cycle they are going through being test to get stronger like with traveler getting their powers sealed and everything that happens after.. with the dream and illusions, the 8th Divine Key "Key of Sentience" being able to create unending dreams and illusions that can also record/destroy memories.. COULD TEYVAT BE THE BUBBLE WORLD THAT IS THE CLOSEST TO ACTUALLY DESTROYING THE HONKAI WITHIN THEIR WORLD?? Within "Before Sun and Moon" kept mentioning "Ark" has me thinking about Project Ark but also with the whole "Teyvat being a one of those bubble worlds or shaped out of the Seed of Sumeru" that is actually slowly withering away into the Sea of Quanta and the visions, gnosis, and the sustainer being what is being used for keep Teyvat afloat.. and with the reason the Travelers being called to Teyvat being that with Khanenri'ahs actually plan being to use travelers sister/brother as a vessel to absorb infinity Abyssal power to the world's near-annihilation and with Dainslef's quote "Defeat me, command me to step aside, show me that you are worthy that I to save her, Then the threads of all fates will be yours to re-weave" could Dain be trying to save them and stopping their sibling from absorbing the abyssal power so they won't be the cause for the world's 3rd?? near-annihilation.. yet even if traveler does change their fate being possibly become the Loom of Fate or after they defeat Dainslef are they going to be getting Dainslef's ability to alter Ley Lines or the "Threads of Fate" even with that how is traveler going to "re-weave the threads of fate"?
This isnt a comment about the VA work, but I think Otto's voice is a bit too deep. It sounds much lighter in JP and CN, so its kinda throwing me off here. But now this is a comment about VA work, and holy hell this is outstanding. You all did such a great work!
This really well done!
Thank you so much! The cast has worked their butts off on this project. I'm so proud of how it's been turning out. Thanks for watching!
Ermahgerd you're back~!!!!
HUGE huge thank you to the amazing talents that have joined me on this little journey. We have some incredible stuff in store that I am very proud to share with you all. 💖
DUDEEE, It's been so long! How are you?
Been doing great! I've been really busy taking courses and basically leveling up on my voice acting work :)
Sorry but i keep hearing a weird crackling in the background all throughout the video its quite distracthing
There's a Celestial Nail in Natlan as well
U should give me the music playlist u use for these videos
I want more of this pleaseeee❤
Ever since the release of the statuettes, I've wondered if Khanri'ah wasn't a nation without gods, but simply a nation without Celestia approved gods. Celestia seems terrified of anything that undermines their legitimacy as the sole source of divinity. They ban books and kill gods who know things that threaten that legitimacy. Why wouldn't they attempt to wipe out a nation that knows they aren't the only gods and then swear all the Archons to absolute silence on the matter while they rewrote the story from, "We killed these people who worship other gods," to, "We killed the godless sinners who threatened the world."
I can't believe the Imaginarium Theater has been in the game since 1.0.
I love the audiobook series. I hope you'll continue reading them❤
With new Simulanka quest it’s basically officially spoiled that durin will return, we might get both lore of albedo and durin when durin revived.
One thing I want to note is that it honkai is instead 崩壊 (houkai) in the Japanese release, which means collapse in that language, only enforcing everything we already know.
I never understood the whole “oh it’s a simulation, it doesn’t matter” line of thought, is the game/book/movie or whatever you’re experiencing not just a “simulation” by another name? You still experience these things, albeit fictional, and they still have an impact on you, is that not meaning? So why, once revealed that a story is “just” a simulated experience for a character in said story, do we strip that story of its meaning? If the simulation has meaning to the character within the story, then it has meaning to us, as the audience, it is still something that affects the character(s) within a story, and by extension us, as the witness to those characters stories.
Do you plan on making a part 2 to this video addressing the recent lore drops in genshin, the current arc in Hi3, and the tidbits we know about Elio and the Aeon of Finality, Terminus from HSR (+ Acheron/Raiden Bosenmori Mei and the multiverse nature of HSR’s planets)
before finally creating humans - numerous as the stars , uncountable as the sand on the shore - if there was hunger the heavens would bring food and rain - The one taboo was to succumb to temptation - what is this book again? primodial one and 3 other shining shades couldn't hear prayers of people. one of the shining shade is not mentioned here, must turned against primodial's faction, in caribert quest "god or power of the abyss" called himself 'a sinner" too. istaroth is the "ruler of unchanging world" , sounds like some god in genhsin i know, are they related, also i couldnt find any dragon sovere gins in inazuma either i have to say in paimon words this is super duper interesting
@@user-zq5dh6jr8n very interesting
I liked the video, your work on it, the small details etc. All the positive things were described before me. I would like to make an important request: when quoting, please refrain from using sound distortion and noise effects. The sound caused me real painful discomfort when using high-quality headphones. I had to switch to the monitor speakers in order to listen to the entire video. Considering that I may not be the only viewer with sensitive hearing, my review could be helpful to you.
Thanks! I’ve been trying to get this book
I have a crack theory that Deshret used the nails throughout his tech because there's a lot of blue crystals in the desert ruins and no abyss. He also either has purple or gold abilities not blue.
Not to be like a downer on the Genshin lore analysts. But. All of the Honkai related games exist as bubble universes on the Imaginary tree so to speak. It is how we have Welt Yang (CEO's self insert) helping this not dead Himeko he discovered and Raiden Mei (confirmed) in HSR and why Genshin is vaguely similar with some correlations and allowed crossover with HI3 (Fischl). So the main old Hoyo games (aka Honkai and its predecessors) are all on like one main branch, Genshin and (maybe ZZZ) are on the other side of the tree. But still on it. Main concepts and ideas will be shared across all games because they're all on the tree. I think its being thought about a bit too hard concerning the Honkai events existing or not in Genshin. They're there. There's several instances in Genshin that sound incredibly similar to the Honkai tests and you can make the argument that the Stellaron disasters on different planets in HSR are Honkai events. Additionally, if its a sea where life begins, that's gonna be the Quanta. There's not much more to it. Its like how the Great Flood irl is found in multiple religions and regions. Not just the Christian Bible. They're referencing the same event.
your lore videos are SO good I am tearing through these omg.
Second who came its surtilogi
I hate desgret for this
Didnt zbongli through the dumbell into the sea ot was that the jade cutter or both
You can also see the upside down fountain from the upside down ruins in the underground chasm in the book of revealings world. There's a window right next to where you teleport in and there's the same statues and everything. People tried telling me Hoyo was just reusing architecture but I've noticed that there's slightly different motifs on the pillars in Enkanomiya, The Chasm, and Sumeru. So I don't think it was just reused architecture. People can pry that from my cold dead hands.
That was talked about at the end of the video... time and space could not be separated and all barriers broken thing... it's uhm... eternity because there will be nothing which can be changed if all things will be one then nothing can influence it like gravity has an impact on sand and time but if that will be merged together then i shall call that eternity so um... it's that what Raiden searching?! Anyway these nails resembles me one secret project i don't remember it's name but it was a weapon well what else human can invented righ...it was basically a rod made from hard materials with high melt point like titanium carbon wolfram etc... And these rods should be placed on earth's orbit on some sort of satellite and released when needed and on impact it will made a huge boom but non radioactive which is good but that temps speed and mass (rods can actually be partially melted during long fall throu atmosphere) will be really dangerous but that program was ceased it was costly to put these rods on orbit they were really heavy and where it will lands was a bit unpredictable you can't really aim from these heights throu atmospheric conditions and speeds but who knows what comes next...
7:40 okay so there is clear tie to Irminsul here. Rhukkadevata did the same thing to create Nahida. Nahida is the purest branch of Irminsul that was snapped off so as to not be infected with forbidden knowledge. Which, we know, is this text from Before Sun and Moon. And what poisoned Deshret's mind and created Eleazar. This is all so fascinating and I'm just interested to see how Hoyo will tie it all together.
Thank you! I have read this 100 times and the audio helps it stick!!! I appreciate these books lore reads!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
47:47 Otto -> Blond Aether & Lumine -> Also blond Coincidence?
5:07 So Luocha can't be Otto?