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Banger commentary bro i love this channel. Also im a cs2 nerd and terminal attack is the best thing that’s happened to this game for me (playing with 5 friends is needed imo)

Deleted this game in 30mins…30mins all it took 😭

A lot of lights are useless team mates just on a building with sniper getting no kills

For me, the biggest problem with light is that it is directly contrary to the main reason I was able to get into this game in the first place: longer than average TTK. I always hated other shooters I had played because I felt like I had to sweat my ass off to avoid getting killed instantly. In The Finals, on the other hand, I usually have time to react to stuff. Against mediums and heavies (unless heavy has hammer/spear and winch claw, lol), I can react to whatever they're doing if I get shot from off-screen. When the lobby has a lot of lights, on the other hand, the game turns into a twitch shooter again, and it's miserable. Maybe changing L/M/H health to 200/275/350 would make it feel better, idk. tl;dr Lights get killed instantly by everything, so to be "balanced" they have to be able to kill everything instantly. Getting killed instantly isn't fun.

heal beam needs to go and to be replaced with a stim gadget available for lights and mediums. heavies don't need health perks not with hammer, sprint and shield.

Yeah the passive theory is great, get it to the developers…asap.

bro mentioned the Model 1887 and gave me flashbacks

Lights would be great if heavys had a little less health and mediums dealt a little less damage... i just recently started putting some hours into this game, in total i probably have over 15k hours across cs/valorant/apex/cod/quake so i do kinda know what im talking about but i have never played in a high elo finals lobby so take my opinion with a grain of salt

I think light can be useful in low elo games like mine because I often struggle to aim at them dashing left and right, but in higher elo games I imagine players just have better aim and don't miss shots that often.

I love terminal attack; it removes so many of the elements I hated, but most importantly, how many times did you play a match perfectly only to have a lousy team die and respawn right after you wiped a team, jack your cash out, and lose? I solo qued to plat 1 for season one. I quit a month before season 1 ended and returned two weeks ago. I'm hooked.

You and your friend are both betas

i think light is perfectly fine. people just need to learn how to use it better. like you said, come in do burst dps and leave while your teammates clean up. light has 2 glitch nades. glitch them to open up and one more time to leave. now they cant heal or throw up shields. piggy has a whole break down on this. light is a strong team class if used properly.

Faster stealing and revives would be fantastic

I find that the best playstyle with a light is to be near your team, but not in the exact same place. Like stay at a distance where you can run to them and vice versa pretty quickly if shit hits the fan, but otherwise do the guerilla thing. Males it so that you can jump in and damage enemies a bit and then lure them to your teammates, or if you die your team can get there before they heal up too much.

if u losing to a team of lights with revive scumming,shotgun (on both heavy n med) rocket launcher, a lmg , and multiple shields ima keep it real u gotta stop being asscheecks

I think the core of this is the light needs some skills that help the team, like decoys or AOE buffs. Stuff that allows your team to take more hits while you raise hell. Similar to spy from tf2, you should be reliant on your team to create openings and they should be happy with you when you obliterate the enemy due to your combined team work. If lights can't do that then either they have not been given the tools to do so, or they are not a good fit for the game experience that players want from this game.

Bro clearly is just not skilled with the light

yes you on point. this however doesnt need nerfed. people need to use their own classes better. each has their own game style and if you miss that fact of how to utilize it fully you will fall short. i think this game is one of the most balanced games ever made but age of empire 2 lol a light should never try go against a heavy close up or it should get killed period. L is a skilledclass that takes skilled play and most are pissy they cant dowell with it but still die to them. thats why the community is toxic to lights and defo snipers

This is such cope

The only issue i have with lights is they can one shot heavys with the dagger. I find thay absolutely disgusting in a game like this.

Based

Its a very binary ype character. You either die with a overwhelming disadvabtage or againt him or you kil him easily. When hes dead, hes not useful to the team. Also prople font know how to play Light they just wanna cod no brain no thinking go forward play style him but Light is supossed to be strategic and oportunistic.

skill issue

Triple light will NEVER be fun to fight and I'm tired of pretending that there shouldn't be class limits.

This isn't "The Problem with Lights" video, it's "The Problem with Heavies." The issue isn't health pools, guns or abilities, it's the fact the Light can and will, in the hands of a crack head, completely annihilate players out of no where: which is where people's aggravated sentiments come from. You want Light to be buffed? Sure, as soon as it's damage and speed are yeeted so I and everyone else can have .5 seconds to properly react. Lights have the most mobility, fastest speed, highest damage and a plethora of "oh shi-" options and all of the this combined with Adderall and good aim makes it the king of ambush and 1v1. Lights don't need a buff, they need a retooling and rebalancing. Drop TTK, lower speed and bleed it into their abilities. You want to play a more ambush/assassin style? Cloak gets a temporary speed boost. You want to play a more Hit n Run style? Dash gets damage boost. You want to play Spider-Man 2? Grappling Hook can attach to players now. But what you're asking for is just charity, charity that this class does not need.

Got to say one of the worst takes I have seen so far, dude claims lights are weak and ignores the most broken ability in the game dash as well as vanish bomb, gateway, bows, throwing knives, sniper and the fact that all the guns that were good at countering the light playstyle got nerfed into hell

Complains that lights need their health regen buffed further, needs to have faster revive speed, passive abilities, and new gadgets to be competitive while going 22 and 11 with 13,000 combat points using a handgun lol. Riight. How about this, nerf the lights speed, then they need to run at the same pace as the medium/heavy and maybe teamwork ensues lol. Seriously though if you can't drop 15-20k in a quick join match as a light you probably aren't good as a light and should try something else. Your job is to kill people. A heavies job is to basically be good defensively and kill a few unskilled lights along the way. Medium is there to heal the heavy and revive people(though I've been known to drop a 20 bomb here and there when I have competent teammates). Lights do not need a buff or a nerf, if you aren't able to easily kill heavies and mediums you probably aren't playing the game right and need to rethink your strategy.

Biased video 😂 The throwing knives of light class do 70 damage each. You throw 2 at a time with no reload animation. You literally have a silent never ending rocket launcher while invisible. Thats what makes lights so annoying. I dont have a main, i use all 3, but light is o.p as fk. The trade off should be speed vs HP and hitbox. The dps should be similar across all 3. The advantage of light is fast movement. The advantage of heavy is high health. The advantage of medium is being able to go toe to toe with both.

hey FR3SH hope everything's been good with you, missing the content dude, patiently waiting on the next upload

Passives are a great idea. The circle objective idea is fantastic but the 'Bangalore' one wouldnt work. They already have there dash so adding that would be top much

THANK YOU for the initals explanation - you just made want to watch you more often Liked and subscribed

i like that idea of making the light take objectives faster. not so much the circle idea or bangalore idea. i think the heavy dome shield should be a box because the amount of times that arc has screwed me going in and out sucks.

Well. Its about teamwork. Lights need to play distraction and confusion or just provide cleanup killing the enemies that are aggro on enemies. Most people who play lights are solo Rambo style. If you get a light teammate who revives you. Plus the new updates kinda made lights more forgiving.

great video, subbed

I main medium and i disagree with buffing lights..... lets nerf the heavies and their massive pile of free kill tools and weapons.

The people that hate playing light dont understand that they dont have enough ammo or health to kill a whole team. Its been the same since day one. Pick a target mag dump him leave.

Comment section is in uproar that this guy dare make good points. You always hear "let embark cook" and how they are doing great the game is great but let someone mention light class and the community goes into a frenzy. Light main's just got another specialization nerf with the dash now lets see if people move the goal post to something else pertaining to the light class that they deem needs a nerf, classic "give a inch take a mile" scenario.

The best fps ever is ttf2 . But nooooo they want slow games .

The light class understandably needs a buff, and the people who argue against this are probably just bad. But passives that increase what the class already excels at seems like the wrong approach. Lights don't need a speed boost, mediums don't need to heal and revive fast, and heavies don't need the ability to destroy buildings faster than they already do, and a stim that increases health and speed even for a moment sounds like a nightmare. Lights don't need to be faster or have higher hp, and the stim would just encourage the anti-teamwork behaviour that the community has collectivly come together to hate. The heal bomb idea you mentioned might actually make for a good addition to the game, but I'd hope for a reduction on self healing, just because, like I've stated before, giving light a way to stay alive longer on it's own is a bad idea. Instead we need more gadgets that inspire a playstyle which helps the team to be buffed or added. I also believe that people are just playing light in a way that is just wrong. Taking 1v1s against a heavy as a light SHOULD result in the light losing. I don't see the argument here, a light has low hp and should die easily. And man, just use glitch grenades. They help so much. All these complaints you have about a heavy you killed being revived right after via a medium using defibrillator, the heavy class being able to pull out so many shields, and even the rpg are countered by glitch grenades. Even turrets get disabled by glitch grenades. The light class is worse than either the heavy or medium in the current meta, yes, but I believe at least some of this mediocrity is derived from the fact lots of light classes just won't help their team, rather they want to solo a random team of three on the opposite side of the map from the objective everybody else on your team is at. I'm sure if we had more light team players there would be less hate for the class.

The light class is for people who use their brain. They arent meant for players who like to crash out 😂 with 1HP

Half of the clips you were not exagerating, you were faking it. Skill Issue, missing all your shots, playing bad, stunning someone and then staying stand still at medium range lol

Lol you were stunning people and standing still at medium range. Thats now how its supposed to be used. Get better bro! Lighting needs rework, health faster regen was good enough to counter the less HP they have. Cloaking needs to be replaced, this is not Hide n Seek, its a fast and chaotic battling objective based FPS. You can never forget Lights have the best weapons, MP5 shreds. And they still have the smallest hitbox paired with the best movement character, so they need to make Lights viable but hard to use and thats ir. Right now with 3 Dashs and Cloaking with a simple button press, that even let you ADS while still invis and prepare 100% your shots dehactivating Cloak automatically, thats unfair

Lol you were stunning people and standing still at medium range. Thats now how its supposed to be used. Get better bro! Lighting needs rework, health faster regen was good enough to counter the less HP they have. Cloaking needs to be replaced, this is not Hide n Seek, its a fast and chaotic battling objective based FPS. You can never forget Lights have the best weapons, MP5 shreds. And they still have the smallest hitbox paired with the best movement character, so they need to make Lights viable but hard to use and thats ir. Right now with 3 Dashs and Cloaking with a simple button press, that even let you ADS while still invis and prepare 100% your shots dehactivating Cloak automatically, thats unfair

Just replace Cloak with some Clone ability. And make Dash accumulate only 2 units with faster regen

i LOVE this mode so much, the feel of the game is very distinctly different from something like csgo or r6, it plays faster, movement is better, and the game is just nicer, and I love snd gamemodes, i really hope ranked TA stays.

Light-build contestants just move faster and in hit-and-run mode. This could be a problem for some players who have trouble aiming.

Half of the community is disgusted by the current state of this game because 90% of the matches are just lights and yet, yet you want lights to be buffed ? Let me break it down to you, you might see the game the way I see it (Medium main): Stun gun : So you say that preventing someone from stealing the cashout, not letting them run or jump properly middle of a fight in the blink of an eye is strong ? I know it used to be most op thing in the game. In the beta, more than half of our deaths were just invisible lights with stun guns one shotting everyone. Dash : You can literally dodge anything with a button. Heavy rpg ? Dodge it. Circle through a guy while just pressing left click with your smg. Or just dash with a charged sword and then melee to one shot a light, Instant 180 dmg and you cannot even see what is going on cause the dude had invisibility bomb. Cloak : Dude seriously, you have such high damage, move fast af and you can just go invisible and thats not op because it doesnt last an hour ? Its nerfed badly and its still not fun to play against. Have 2 lights with invisibility and the game becomes hide and seek. You try to find those cockroaches roaming around you, and you can just wait until you get killed in 0.5 second. Grapling hook : I think its balanced. You can get in and out of fights with it and also traverse the map. It doesnt give you much leverage in the fights, but can help you get to really important points quite easily. Give light class anything even slightly strong, you'll see that thing used every single match by everyone, abusing it to death. We cannot even get close to the cashbox because there's at least 2 sonars there constantly spotting you. If you think lights are not strong, just get better. They might even not be that op in ranked. But you know what ? I dont care just like half of the community because i dont even play ranked much. I already see enough sweaty people in casual that abuses everything they can and thats more than enough for me. When you want to play a game with your friends casually and more than half of the enemy team are lights, all of them having more than +10 kills at least, and when you spend half of the time waiting to respawn, its not fun and it kills all the enjoyment. Lights have always been annoying since the beta. Light doesnt need buff, it needs adjustements.

I think your just bad mechanically

when you play agains a team of 4 lights 1 heavy, that is a nightmare, not only they going to snipe you, they going to chase you, and instakill you, mass lights is OP, having 1 light in the team seems balanced

I will throw out there that the throwing knives currently do a unmatched amount of damage with no need to reload. Lights are as lights is. But man it needs like 6 throws and then a short reload or something.