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No. I’m only gonna get more political so SUCK IT.

Before you ask me to suck it, have you decided on your pronouns??

Good question, thanks for asking... note that I use a generic term like "white man" as short-hands for the notion of "White, Christian, from the colonizer class in North America" (as do many people when discussing topics related to post-colonial approaches to North American history). This transcends just the idea of "colour of skin". As much as many folks like claim "colour of skin doesn't matter", that throws away entire centuries of social constructs around ideas of race in this part of the world. To answer the question "if this were made by a color other than white, would [I] have the same issues?" hard to say. This flavour of "white" the designer comes from - ESPECIALLY one so close to the church - needs to tread carefully and thoughtfully. And as noted in the video, I believe he does. White North Americans have a very specific proximity to the topic, which may come with it's own baggage. Whatever that baggage is, I feel Joel has left out and given us a rich and engaging narrative that pays homage, rather than tokenizes, the Indigenous subjects.

@@WdTPD agree with most of what you said, I do, however, believe in Dr. Martin Luther King. ...one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I do believe the less people discuss their differences the more we come together.

@@deadlyminion1981 Well, that's where we disagree "The LESS people discuss their differences, the more we come together" uh, no... I can't get behind that. "Put our differences" aside works when we're arguing Coke vs Pepsi, but peoples' LIVEs are affected by how their marginalized and racialized. That's why the language is shifting to words like "racialized"; their race is a construct foisted upon them by systems of oppression. So taking this back to White Americans educating and telling the stories of Native Americans, White super-structures have racialized and marginalized Natives for centuries - again, I believe Joel has transcended that issue nicely and handled this narrative with respect. Most of us, not actively (but in general), white folks like myself benefit from a system and world where those Natives are predominantly disenfranchised. If anything, I *WANT* to learn more about what makes them unique, either their culture or their struggle. "The less people discuss their differences" sounds a lot like when people "don't see colour" which is not helpful (or truthful, honestly). We all have unconscious biases, and "not seeing colour" in this context means not seeing someone for how they are treated in a society where they can be potentially marginalized or "othered". The Dr King sentiment is nice, but ask yourself what you're doing to "live in a nation" like that one day. I don't believe that "not discussing differences" is the path forward. Here's a deeper article to read on the topic. www.forbes.com/sites/danabrownlee/2022/06/19/dear-white-people-when-you-say-you-dont-see-color-this-is-what-we-really-hear/

@@WdTPD some good points, I would like to point out that the idea that marginalizing groups isn't something new, we don't hear about the slavery going on now, nor do we hear about how every race has enslaved itself and others throughout history. Barbary pirates are a good example of a time where it didn't matter much on where you were from, who you were, or why, the issues on understanding go much deeper than any surface level stuff going on in America. The oppression Americans have in comparison to historical treatment of others is trivial. I'd like to have picked up a book at my school and read about more than just the African slaves being bought by England etc. there is so much more to that, and there is so much over looked that is extremely important. I think at the end of the day, the main point is, we are human, we are great at oppressing others, and we love war. I believe as I've gotten older and more cynical that the best way to live is to just embrace who we are. Anyway, good thoughts, you're much more positive than me. I will mention I'm not a white man, and I'm in an interracial marriage. I don't see my spouse as a different race, it quite literally barely occurs to me in fact. I just see people.

how convenient it is for some of us to not have our mere existence deemed "political" so that we can discount or ignore things we deem too "political".

D'OH!!! thanks for that correction, i'll try to update that... silly me

Any quarter than includes a play of Vijayanagara is solid! 💪🏼

I've heard good things! Will keep my eyes peeled for it ;)

yeah, that might be the thing that puts me off HnC slightly, but the graphics on DBP are great. Looking for other games with that vibe and feel. Whatever helps to make the game flow smooth and engaging!

I figured this would be your jam ;) Epic game, can't wait to play more!

Wow, thank you for the kind words! I hope it comes across clear in the video, and in my replies to these comments, that although I'm "somewhat conflicted" about who gets to own the narrative this is by all means a great game and a learning tool on Indigenous struggle in North America. So thoroughly engaging with a complex narrative. I haven't seen anything else like this, on the topic or otherwise - trust me, I've been looking! I look forward to hearing about your experience with the game. Enjoy!

Hey. This is a judgement-free zone! All game pieces are VALID. Well, not minis. Those are dumb.

@@WdTPD now waiting for a serious game with a very deep topic that you are passionate about to get announced… with MINIS! Similar thing happened to me. Wrote off bulge games, not my topic… boom, compass drops enemy action ardennes, favourite designer, elegant solo… 😭

Thank you for the kind words! There will be more in the future, as for L&C games - probably Henry and/or Seljuk when they're available.

I believe in you - go for it! (Great game, you owe it to yourself to play 😉)

That's awesome! Would you know of a good way to catch this film, streaming service or otherwise, for a Canadian viewer? Searching service, including local library offerings, are coming up with nothing.

Right on, I’m glad it helped! Admittedly the game is still a little rough around the edges, but how can you NOT enjoy looking at so many cards with so many iconic people! (To be 1000% clear I mean the Civil Rights activists, NOT their adversaries)

Nice! Share with friends, let the vid do the teach so you can get right into the game ;)

I'm glad it helped... and all fairness to the designer, he's designed a great game and it's a completely different skillset to clearly articulate the rules to a broader audience. In my opinion, the designer should not be the one writing the rulebook, and in very rare exceptions* there should be yet another person providing a teaching script. * Tory Brown does and EXCELLENT job of teaching her own game, Votes for Women, extremely smoothly.

Thanks, Richard! 1. Perhaps! I need to get a full game with multiple players to make any judgement. Solo is pretty neat, but overall good "practice" for multi-player interaction. 2. I think 3 is ideal for interactivity, but 4 and 5 will be very nice 3. Dice are an interesting choice. They make more sense for the Tension, especially the boxes that "trickle down" - and some cards refer to a *specific* die being at a certain level. However Prestige could be tracked other ways, i'm sure. And they're BIG CHONKY dice! The most prominent thing on the table compared to the cubes. Now, some of the details on the map... I think I'll save that for another video... ;)

@@WdTPD Yeah, the chonkiness of the dice (and the fact that they are plain white dice, nothing special) are what especially distract me. I think even a different colour (blue? to contrast with the red?) would have been a better choice.

Very glad to hear, Stuart! But also: to-may-toe, to-mah-toe :D (i'm inventing a new dialect, lemme speak)

@@WdTPD very good. Thanks for not taking it the wrong way. Your channel is very good!

Did you make it to their booth? 😃

I can only speak for myself, of course, but I currently have six COIN games (All Bridges Burning, Cuba Libre, Falling Sky, Fire in the Lake, Pendragon and People Power) and I have ordered two more (China's War and The Pure Land). I have played all of them multiple times - apart from the latter ones due to obvious reasons - and I will continue to play them. The COIN games I have are different enough that I think it is ok to have them in my collection. I don't know about the preordered ones, but since I'm interested in Chinese and Japanese history, I have no qualms either. I don't think that the question "How many do you need?" makes a lot of sense. How many books do you need? How many hex-and-counter wargames do you need? It all comes down to individual preferences.

Thanks for listening and for your kinda words! I wouldn't be opposed to trying Conquistadors (most likely the Compass one) as I'm sure I'll learn *something* from it - but I'll probably need to take a shower after to get some of the "ick" off :D

Dave! it was soooo great to meet you - I regret not being able to test Night Witches with you and Liz, or any other designs you have your hands on, but there was so much good stuff going on.

You earned it! Another game of Arete last night, such a blast. This game is SOOOO addictive, I blame you for upping my "screen time".

​@@WdTPD So great to hear. I love it! Not a lot of activity yet in the online area but there is one guy who has gotten me addicted to it. Something I never thought would happen.

Falling Sky is definitely neat, might be awhile until I can get a full 4player going. I also have the expansion! Lots to explore there. I *kinda* think i know what ambiguities you're talking about in PIW, and well... kinda speaks to the designer's track-record ;) DBP will be QUITE the undertaking, might need to do a lengthy AAR on that one!

I'm glad i got to experience this game - only one solo "test" playthrough so far, but it looks very cool. I may require some rules clarifications, and if I do I'm sure others will as well so I may put together a teaching video. Or i'll go back and watch Klee and Princess' playthrough to see if it answers questions. If not, hoping someone can help clarify the rules!

@@WdTPD oh, a play through would be great and support for others who may have questions!

Excellent - i'm soooo happy to hear that, it's exactly the reason why i make these vids. cheers!

I'm glad these videos are helpful to you - and YES, good catch! I had to look at the rule again myself as I thought Troops could go to Cities *or* Gov-controlled spaces, but looking closely again at 6.4.2 they must be BOTH so Santiago de Cuba isn't an option for re-deploy in this case. Good eye ;)

Cheers! enjoy playing this fabulous game ;)

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Thank you for the kind words!

No probs! Ready to tackle this one? 😉

@@WdTPD absolutely not 🤣 but I really like those kind of games, that tell great stories. I'll just have to wait for the reprint, here in Germany 😅

Nah, those Deception chits are pretty boring, honestly, including the ones that just say "no effect" or whatever. I don't mind games with a bit of hidden information, and I think there is room for that and COIN and COIN-like game (see the latest Gest of Robin Hood) but those chits ain't it for me! Actually, that's what I like People Power for, to throw a wrench in the works with the Personality cards.

@@WdTPD Expanding on the base placement after Rallying. After playing Andean Abyss recently on rally-the-troops, the game engine confirms that insurgents indeed cannot place a base where they just rallied guerrillas in, but it does allow the Government to place a base where it just trained troops in. Seeing that AA, CL as well as PP all have the same Train operations, that is going to switch our games up quite a bit.

Looks like you got your answer over on this thread? It's a good question, and the base-placing procedure in CL originally broke my brain, but it makes sense now. So it seemed like a breeze to me when tackling People Power. boardgamegeek.com/thread/3305566/train-operation-questions

ooooo, tough question, don't make me choose between my favourite children... hahaha. They both serve their purposes, I like this for the game play and way-back dive in to history, but I like People Power because I am really in to the topic of 20th century peoples' revolutions. I did play Vijayanagara quite a bit solo as the Sultanate, and had a blast, I need to do the same with PP. One thing I do like better with Vijayanagara is that even the non-Player factions use resources so you do get the full experience even when solo'ing.

EXCELLENT, this is exactly why I make this, to help others with their first game. Enjoy! (I'm sure you will)

Glad you liked it! Maybe I should interview some other Zenobia finalists 😉

It’s very hard to find right now, you might have to contact the publisher. What country do you live in?

J’habite au Canada Comment faire pour le contacter svp ?

You can contact me - joe . byer @ gmail . com - I may have a copy for you :)