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Poorly. ;) I think they'll last 2 sessions at the Glen (3?), 2 short sessions at LRP and probably 2 sessions at Club motorsports...maybe another 1-2 at Palmer. So 8 sessions total? Cup 2's last 2x longer. FYI my PB at LRP was on the Cup 2's, not the 2 R's. ;) correct tire for the appropriate conditions.

@@modernyankee I've been pretty happy with Falken Azenis 660 on my 2013 Carrera S. Thinking about trying Nankang CR-S or Bridgestone RE71RS. I moved away from Cup2's as I was wearing out the shoulder on the rears pretty quickly. At least the Falkens can be swapped on the wheels as they are symmetric.

2021 Porsche Spyder. OEM size/brand tires (Cup 2's, 245/35R20 and 295/30R20. Stock power. 21,000 miles on car.

I don't disagree. ;-) Great handling, awesome track performance and top-down sporty street car.

@@modernyankee wait a second! You can’t just agree. This is RUclips. You have to rip my comment, call me vile names, insult my mother and question my knowledge! 🤣🤣😎🤙

I understood all of that except i'm not sure what you mean after the part about turning in a little later at Big Bend (T1). could you clarify?

@@modernyankee you could carry more speed with a wider arc on turnin and by staying further to the left for longer on the start finish straight

Thanks, Eric. I spend a lot of time prepping before going to a track I've never driven before. That allows me to come up to speed quickly so I spend less time simply 'learning' the track and more time focusing on nuances. With the high cost of track days...especially those i had to drive 9 hours to get to,..this approach has significant benefits for me with regard to the value proposition. I'd definitely go back to Mont Tremblant. As noted above, I found it to be a more challenging track than any other I've driven....even more challenging than Pitt Race & Mid-Ohio.

@@modernyankee I can confirm that your preparation looked very good. I know the Mont-Tremblant track well and I'm really curious to know what the Catalyst had to suggest to improve the 1.7 second time. I can't see where you could have improved.... It looked like a really good lap. Had you taken the time to look at it? Just to satisfy my curiosity...

@@rictelecom Good question. I just fired up my Catalyst to find out. 1st opportunity is .84 sec at the Carousel. Fastest time is when I braked 7' later, 20% harder than my average resulting in .23 seconds less braking duration. Max decel was 1.24g's (vs my avg of 1.04 g's). I also entered that segment at 85.4 mph (vs my avg of 80 mph...that surely had something to do with this. I'll wager that happened due growing a bigger set thru T7 on that lap). I had a 54 mph min speed (1.2 mph higher than my avg) and apexed just a touch earlier (still way around the corner (if the the track before and after the Carousel are vertical lines and the carousel is at the bottom, I apexed around '7 o'clock')...treating this like a single apex corner. Exit speed was higher sooner and (of course) that carries all the way to the braking zone at the entry to T10. 2nd opportunity is in T1/T2. Fastest time was with an earlier turn in and earlier apex. and significantly more speed carried deeper into T1. According to the Catalyst, my turn entry speed was 108.3 mph vs my average of 91.1mph, turn minimum speed was 92.1 vs my average of 88 mph and turn exit (effectively the apex of T2 at the top of the hill) was 95.1mph vs my average of 91.8 mph. Opportunity 3 is apparently worth .52 seconds and that's T7. Turn entry was significantly faster at 100.6mph vs my avg of 95.4mph. Turn exit was faster at 100.8mph vs my avg of 96.3mph. Oddly, my turn minimum speed was the same as my avg. So, I came in hotter & braked harder (1.02g vs .91g) but for the same amount of time. I got on the throttle sooner and harder (max accel .31g vs avg of .25g). Accel time was 8.66 seconds vs avg of 8.32 seconds. If I could add it all up into a single lap, I could have run a 1:51. But then, if horses had wings... Hope I didn't bore you to tears. ;-D

@@modernyankee WOW Men !! We could talk together for hours... Your description is just perfect !! For the carousel, The best way a found for my car was to go a bit deeper in the corner by braking later and apex it more around 7;30 on your clock. It give me more speed on the next straight. For the turn #10, it's impressive how fast we can begin to turn in and trail brake it. Most of people apex too late and the result is not as good as a soon apex. I'm sad that my english is not good enough to explain exactly what a think a know about that track, but anyway, you are better and faster than me. Thank's again for your analyse. It was nearly erotic to read ! ha ha ha !!!

Eric, your English is about 1000 times better than my French 😉. I understand exactly what you are saying! I’m sure you can tell by now that my way of thinking is that sharing information makes everybody better. You’re welcome to as much data as I can supply. 😊

Thanks, Chris. The car has more in it....I just need to work on the nut that holds the wheel. LOL

Agreed! With fresh 80 treadwear (or slick) tires, I should be able to turn a sub 1:40 lap there. I have the Garmin Catalyst set to "Advanced Race Coach"...it's most talkative setting. It compiles data as I keep driving and it determines which particular way thru a corner was the quickest. Then it verbally instructs as I'm about to drive that particular area of the track. It takes some of the guesswork out of figuring out the quickest way around the track.

At that time, I believe I only had the stock suspension camber maxed out in front….-1.7 degrees? Michelin Cup 2 tires. 180 treadwear.

No big surprise....every ab muscle, tricep, pecs & lats hurt for 3 days after.

It was my pleasure!! You are a WILD Man!!!

Thank you, Matthew. I sure wasn't slow out there, but....y'know...just when you think you're pretty quick, there's always a faster car and a better driver. ;-D LOL

Brian: I'd like to carry even more speed through 8, but as you're well aware, the track drops away after the apex. As it is, I'm using all of the track at track out...I don't want to find myself needing more track than exists there...and an early apex at the right speed will have you looking for that non-existent asphalt. Turn 9 is a different story. 2 years ago (when my Cayman S was understeering there), I needed to use (and liked) the inside line. Then I watched Ron's video so this year I started wider. It was OK. Then I rode w/ Bob P who makes more of a V out of it, that didn't work for me. I went back to the inside line, but not consistently. I like the inside best though. Track out from 8 and just stay over there. Use the compression in 9 to get great turning grip. Only down side is that the track flattens as you get near the apex so I feel like it might not work for some cars.

Brian, I'd accept nice-ISH lines....even that's a stretch compared to my normal lines. I noticed that I was so focused on fun w/ the Canfields that my driving precision went in the toilet. As my pace picked up, I was often WAY wide of the inside edge of the track at the apexes and maybe 1x out of 3 I took turn 1 correctly. I didn't realize it until I saw Tim's videos (see them at Canner0001 on RUclips). It would be embarrassing if it weren't such a good learning moment! ;-D

@@modernyankee Ha! Yeah, it's funny how the perspective changes when you see how you're driving from someone else's viewpoint.

@@briann977 Indeed!

Looking back at your comment...right! under 120...b/c I'm running with the Honda's (power/aero limited). typically I'm in the low- mid-130's on the straight. So, yeah...amazing to be turning 1:47's even w/ those 'slow' straight speeds.

Sorry for the late reply, Anthony. There's definitely no loss of performance from my Cayman S. The spyder is a very stiff car (as opposed to a Ferarri 458 Spyder...I noticed cowl shake on that car with the top down).

Anthony: Good eyes. I agree. On the first two laps, I was definitely apexing early and that's not my normal line. On the last lap of this video, I'm back to my normal line...which you'd also see on my video from last year at LRP. ruclips.net/video/j3BdTe8meNo/видео.html Thanks for the keen eyes. ;-D

It’s a beautiful place. We certainly love our annual visits there.

Thanks, Jorge. Fun track, great club, fast car😁.

I'm glad you commented, Dr. Billy. Your comment enticed me to re-watch this video for the first time in well over a year. Since posting this video, I've been back to WGI for two more DE's w/ my 2021 718 Spyder (see videos on my channel). Watching this older video was eye-opening. It clearly demonstrates how inconsistent and imprecise my line was a couple of years ago. I'm clearly missing apexes, turn-in's, etc... I probably wouldn't have seen that had you not taken the time to comment. Thank you. :-D

email me: joe@modernyankee.com

Joe, the Track Addict app on my iPhone uses info from the OBD2 port (via a module that plugs into the port and communicates with my iPhone via Bluetooth.

Hi Joe. I was at LRP with PCA NCR and in the black run group. I'm on Cup 2's and at LRP under those conditions (mid-50's, damp) I ran hot pressures of LF41#, RF37.5#, LR37#, RR36#. I'll admit that this is a little unusual. I'd typically run 37-38# hot all around to start with and then I'll usually my 'inside front' (i.e. RF on a 'clockwise' track) up to around 40# (it wear's more evenly and my temps across the tread are more evenly spaced from outside to middle to inside edge w/ inside edge being 10-12 degrees F hotter. I'm not using the Porsche Track Precision App...either I haven't figured it out or I did and didn't like it (can't recall). I'm using Track Addict. PIP was from when I used a old GoPro Hero 3. For some reason, I can't get it to work this season and I don't have the time to mess w/ it. FWIW: tires make ALL the difference....they're your only connection to the track. Not sure what you drove prior to your GTS, but learn the car, grab as much coaching as you can possibly get and then the speed/time will come naturally. ;-D

LOL. I borrowed Dale's Catalyst and it did help me shave a little off my lap times. Even so, when I look at the video and telemetry from the comfort of my armchair, it's easier to be critical of my driving and know that I could be below 1:40 if I improve my driving just a little bit in about half a dozen places. I look forward to giving that a try next year. ;-D

Thanks, Brian. This is one heck of a challenging track. Definitely get there if you can. ;-D

Brian: I'm all ears when it comes to learning/trying different lines, different techniques, etc... I'll be the first to admit I'm not sure what my fastest way through 2-3-4 is. I feel like my car hasn't had the front end grip I'd like (i.e. its understeering), but I'll be the first to admit that it's part alignment, part driver. I play with different lines and haven't figured that section out yet (or 6, or 10-11, etc...). I learn so much from riding with others, listening to (and sometimes debating) driving critiques w/ others. Bottom line is this: I love dialoguing with others about the best line, technique, etc.. and sharing stats. It's a great way for all of us to become better at the hobby we love! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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Thanks, Ryan. I'll certainly do my best to keep the video's coming. I have plenty others out there, but the next one isn't going to be until late August. First time at Watkins Glen w/ the new Spyder. I'm thinking I'll see 150+mph there before braking for the Bus Stop. Stay tuned.