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You and me both! Welcome back to the team! We're glad to have ya! And thanks for the feedback and comment! Its always appreciated!

Oh I can imagine! The sheer attack density would be ridiculous, but my goodness would it be bad if they had a single trampler or those trample boots on a thug hahaha. Thanks so much for the comment and feedback!

Not just attack density, but large units like giants typically are hitting one target, but the Picoyne are 5 to a tile, so really strong units that target single units with powerful attacks end up wasting a lot of the damage potential with overkill. They are very bad against a strong mage evo corps though. In LA they have high defense skill for their infantry, solid flying unit and commander with thug potential, the most amassable crossbow in the game, the ability to make powerful complicated communions, and a strong sacred/bless/smite game It's a good time

@@nickwoodfin2690 They sound solid as heck to me, given that description. Maybe I'll throw them on the list, and see what I can find when I get to them. In fact, I might make them one of my next few videos, that sounds like a FUN thing to "figure out and make playable" for the average person, who might find the diminutive size too daunting to take on!

Thanks for the comment! And I love those Cambion counts! The higher morale alone makes them one of my favorite in this nation, and they do make things so much easier when you give them a sanguine dowsing rod! And of course the armies can't be player style armies in my demonstrations, hahaha, I would expect FAR more more support, and a hell of a lot more scripted elemental spam, and even battlefield wipe spells. The idea with the guides is to show players how to set up certain moves of their own, and then encourage them to hop in multiplayer games with us all to figure out then how to counter players. Mighty AI I'm not sure - I don't play with AI often, so I wouldn't be a good judge, but I'm trying to give representations of player ARMIES, not so much their mage setups ;) Too much variability in there to do in short time haha. As always thank you for the comment and feedback! Great insights!

@@AOReaper maybe have the same number of gems spend on elementals on the opposite side

@@skoub3466 Yep, I just run into the issue of imagining how people would spend those gems then. It would get crazy the # of combinations I'd need to show to really give a good set of examples, and the video would be ~60 minutes. I might try throwing some more "realistic" armies in there in the future, or hell: to make it easier I might just ask some MP players for permission, and use the old turn files from old games in these vids. That might be easier for nations that aren't brand new. Solid idea, thanks!

Good stuff. Dom is often a bit overwhelming in it’s scope, a condensed look is very nice

@@SinOfAugust I'm so glad it helped! Let me know if any parts were confusing for you, and I'll be happy to walk you through them, or even give you alternate examples if it helps!

@@AOReaper To me, personally, magic in general is the biggest hurdle. There is more spells in a single school than other games have all together. Knowing what counters what, what is a priority when is hard when you are staring at hundreds of spells... Then there's communions, Sabbath's, boosters, crafting, horror usage... Hard to take it all in and then make intelligent decisions about it all...

Top tier meme implementation. 10/10 would subscribe twice if I could.

@@gogeta667 Hahahahah, appreciate the appreciation! Thanks so much for the comment and kind words!

You're not wrong unfortunately. Still: its STARTING to go in the right direction. As long as Illwinter maintains their normal pace, we'll have some good ones in around ~6 years ;)

Possibly, but in testing it sure as heck seems to be working the same. If it isn't (or its INTENDED not to) then people will have to make a different specific pretender with this nation, but fortunately as I mentioned in the pretender design section: this nation is SUPER happy with pretty much any decent bless. Thanks for the comment and the feedback!

Haha, thanks for the idea! I was dabbling around with EA TNN earlier this month, and boy it was rough for them. Their cavalry suffered from the "light warhorses now have no prot" syndrome, and it was really rough using both the Ri and the Sidhe Lords even more importantly. That 4 prot REALLY hurts vs archers and the commanders when they get dumped off of their fay horse onto the ground, as the horse loses 3 defense vs its rider in the case of the Ri, and 2 for the Sidhe Lord (now that their stats are tracked separately). Hmm... how to make up for these things... We lost our lightning spammability, but we gained Glamour in return. We lost mistform/fog warriors for the most part (or at least easy access to it), but gained twilight access (and darkvision on many troops/mages), and really good access to defense plays. I think my issue with elves in this edition is that they became MORE elfy in their ways, and more vulnerable to normal elf counters. In addition, they didn't gain GREAT access to any direct damage that they've lost now with Air access OR defense (fog warriors). Tell you what: I'll give them a try. If I sit down and let them noodle around in my brain for a while, and do some testing, I should be able to figure them out, and I'll let you know what I find. And thank you for the comment and feedback!

@@AOReaper hmm... Could have sworn I typed a reply to this.

I recommend you do its semi sibling Fomoria as well! It’s got one of the wider viable magic rosters in the whole early era. Not to mention some versatile troops

@@ivan-to2zy I haven't seen one. Not sure where it could've gone...? I see your original post up above about TNN losing air magic, etc. If its gone missing, let me know, and I'll try to investigate. I know nothing about this stuff, but I'll try haha.

@@thatoneguy5856 I DO love me some Fomoria. Much more straightforward bruisers than their elfy cousins ;) Thanks for the comment and feedback! Let me know what your preferred strategy with EA Fomoria is, and I'll try it out ;)

Absolutely happy to help! And thank YOU for the comments and feedback! Happy to have you here!

Haha, yea, everybody likes to pronounce words differently ;) no worries my friend! If I find that prescription for you, I'll be sure to drop it here :P Thanks for dropping by, and thank you for the feedback! Glad to have you here!

Right?! Those monsters hit like trucks, so instead of a fair fight, I choose the cosmos! 😂 Thanks for the feedback and comment! I'll try to keep bringing up good uses for these spells in the future!

I just got sniped last night on a test game of LA Pyrene where I had a single blood bishop and 10 knights, the indy archers ran right past my knights and shot my commander all by himself repeatedly until he died. I know somebody mentioned there being a separate targeting of "single commanders" in small armies for the indys, but I haven't verified anything about it. Given the fact that (for example) indy commanders (50 command points, no line formations) can have units in line formations might indicate that Illwinter wants indy's to provide a little more randomness/surprise, so they've implemented some of this stuff. That being said: I can't confirm, as I haven't hardcore tested anything, but I'd be happy to if you would help me figure out exactly HOW to ;) Thanks for the comment and feedback!

I just retested it with a blood bishop, 4 cambion knights/2 pyrenian knights and 2 man at arms on guard commander. The knights on each side rushed each other (indy and myself) and the crossbows ran right past the knights fighting and shot my commander repeatedly until he died. I feel like this may still be a thing. More testing would be required obviously, but it still seems like its possible (ironic that this randomly just happened though as we're speaking about it).

@@AOReaper my guess is it has something to do with the bless. I took blood vengeance, enchanted blood, and couple hp boosts. Maybe the AI doesnt want to kill itself on the tankier defensive blesses and it dissuades them compared to reinvig you have? Or reinvig makes them target it specifically. I am a noob and I dont think I've ever had my abysian commander/mage die to an archer. I believe I've always taken some additional "tank' bless for at least 1 extra hp and that would be my guess to trick the ai into not shooting them. I could be completely wrong and just gotten very lucky so far! Though this doesnt make sense for warlocks/regular non sacred commanders. I definitely use the sacred pyro mages and my prophet a lot more than those... Hmmmmm.

@@MichaelSmith-fo6qq Exactly. This is a difficult one to test for, unless you have somebody who can tear apart the code (not me YET), so I think we'll just have to keep it in mind while we hopefully survive against these darn random archers! Abysia too is a little more awkward to test vs LA Pyrene, mostly because of the BASE HP differences. For example: in the last case, I took +10 undying, which would theoretically push the blood bishops over the dragons, but do they count that blessing? Do they choose their target BEFORE the bless goes off, perhaps? That would be interesting, as it would heavily weigh the favor towards blesses that are automatic (i.e. Larger/etc). I'm really curious if there will be a "go-to" bless to protect commanders after detailed testing (i.e. "air shield" for squishy human nations or something - though I doubt this particular one haha). It IS crippling to expansion phase where you often have tiny armies going out to maximize your expansions with minimal cost...

@@AOReaper Alright it happened to me this time as EA abysia. Weird! I guess airshield 100% is necessary. Thanks for that tip. I probably never would have noticed the glitched targeting Was playing a blitz and suddenly 2 of my mages die to the same barrage of arrows ONLY shooting at them. -.-

Glad to hear it! I'll be sure to keep it in here! Thank you for the feedback and comment!

@@AOReaper its one of the most important sections of the game and the users watching this type of content are likely players getting to learn a new nation, so most people watching these will prolly find high value in that section

@@meowmeow9326 I appreciate that, thank you! The insights really help, and I appreciate YOU for that ;)

Yea, you can check out my other video on communions (in the Dom 6 playlist) - it explains turbo communions in greater detail along with ordinary communions. Super effective when you have a bunch of weak mages, but a few durable/higher level ones to support them. And thanks for the feedback and comment!

I'm very glad! I'll be sure to keep doing them to help you guys out more! Thanks for the feedback and comment!

Ok great! Thanks for the feedback! Most people seem to want for me to crunch these down into a single video, but with less time so I'm always looking for how to crunch out the largest things, but I'll keep expansions in there if they're helpful! And thank you for the feedback and comment!

Very possible! As long as players like starting with a lower Dom score (for some other investment) and then want to manually preach it up, that's always an option! Thanks for the comment and feedback!

Normally testing Ind builds I look for 20ish provs by t12 ( more is unrealistic in mp anyways), couple lvl3 researched (awake pretender), maybe a throne if good matchup or more likely starting 1st war

Various ones. They have a lot out there, Midjourney, Dall e 3, all sorts of em. I've had mixed results with different ones, but I'd try a few!

Which one made the hippo one for this lol

@@thatoneguy5856 LOL I have no idea to be honest! Its kind of hilarious though isn't it? Hahahaha

I'll throw 'em on the list! Appreciate the feedback and comment!

I really think you'll love it but in the MEANTIME (your current game where you can't change it), try to throw a small communion in there with a few abbot magi in there, and drop "Gifts from Heaven" (Evo level 5, along with stellar cascade spam) on their skulls early in the battle. It'll wipe those goof-balls out, and then if your script switches around order 4-5 to other stuff, you'll be good to go ;) If you keep hitting yourself, do stellar cascade spam in a turbo communion (i.e. "Strong mages are the slaves, weaker mages are the spammers") and watch those giants fall asleep ;) Large size = easy to hit. Let me know how it goes!

Of course, happy to help! Like I may have mentioned before, I put ALL requests on a list, and it takes me some time to reach them, but I'll always get 'em all :)

Yep! And as I'd mentioned to somebody else already, Marvernis biggest issue is their reliance on communions + their cap only greater druid means they need to have a plan to ultra protect those old goofballs. Makes it really scary if you don't have a preventative bless, or some kind of defensive focused script for them. Morale bless definitely helps with the boars not trampling as much, but try out "righteous wrath" instead. If boars are dying, they "inspire" one another into +6 morale, and that REALLY helps. Anything preventing mass tramples kills one: and boom - super morale pigs!

@@AOReaper Thanks. I guess e.g. Imprisoned Archmage D6 O1 P2 H0 M1 M1 / F4 A4 W1 E5 D3 N4 G3/ Righteous W/Larger/SR/LLV/2UD assuming the UD helps old druids as well as human sacreds with the regen/heal available to nature mages/communions. Better than commander moral mid game but not so good Early.

@@andrewcole4843 I might even urge you to skip the high dom bonuses (O1/P2) to get a better setup bless wise for yourself, or even more magic scales. That prod/order (in my humble opinion) really doesn't feel needed for these guys.

Hahaha, the AI sure won't know what to do with all of that crazy boar-spawn! If you're battling the AI, feel free to go crazy on the mother oak -> conj 5 rush and just spam spam spam ;) I highly HIGHLY recommend taking the death bless for "need not eat" for these guys in that case. You can handle the death scales, and the boars won't starve your whole nation like they often do otherwise that way ;)

@@AOReaper that's such a good idea to IP going for the need not eat bless. I look at some of those blesses wondering why they exist but I guess they all have their purpose. Love how these games actively encourage and reward creative thinking

@@CaptScrotes That's exactly it! The flexibility in ALL of the systems in dominions 6 is amazing. Look at the simple act of repelling? IF you take a larger bless (for example) to hit a size higher, certain units gain +1 range on their melee weapons, which SOMETIMES enables them to repel, which is based on attack skill, vs the opponent who can counter with morale boosts, or longer weapons, or... etc etc. Its an amazing game to flex your mind in, and frankly: we've got one of the GREATEST communities with this game that I've ever seen. Its amazing, and I'm glad you're here to share it with me!

@@AOReaper thanks homie! Happy to be here!

They DEFINITELY help with the patrolling aspect of it, I just hated BV because of the fact that inevitably, SOME druid is going to go off-script and Gifts From Heaven murder himself, and given that the BV/druid strat is generally "cost them more than you cost you" and elder druids are cap only, I ran into a situation where unless I gave them magic bows and told them "script + fire at rear" they would off-script themselves to death :( Have you experienced any of that yet, or have you found the stellar cascades focus to work well enough that you can handle the attrition? Either way, thanks so much for the feedback! Glad its hitting home for ya!

@AOReaper I have indeed experienced the unfortunate Arch Druid commits self gifts on boars. My current solution to this? Just, dont research up to Gifts of Heaven, I view it as a trap for the nation. You have such high earth and astral communion access that I play my mages as a Buffers, Fluffers, and Snipers. I do Construction, Alteration, Enchantment, and especially Thaumaturgy. Mindburn, Soul Slay, eventually Master Enslave, after dropping Weapons of Sharpness, Legion of Steel, Iron Will, Regen, and all the new Animal Buffs. Am I missing out on THE Marverni evo spell. Oh absolutely. But if I want to run BV this is the way I find myself doing it.

@@MrCarodan 100% smart plan. I like it. As long as you replace "X spam" with "Mind burn" spam and somebody isn't capable of dropping antimagic on their troops, you're good to go. Sounds like you've got a solid plan my friend ;) Appreciate the feedback, as always! (And the new animal buffs are awesome to tinker around with!)

I prefer squished but I’ll watch both 2 parters if I’m really interested in the topic. Anyways, thanks for the videos, really helpful for greenhorns, especially in this condensed form that is frankly lacking on YT.The game is hella fun once you start kinda getting it. Requesting a breakdown of ea Therodos while im here, first nation that kind of clicked with me and would love to know more. God bless.

@@leichenkocher Sounds good, I'll make sure to put Theredos on the list. We only have 2 nations in front of it, and I'm not deadset on sticking with them in that order, so it might be sooner than you think :P I have a particular fondness for overwhelming reap... err, undead swarms, so I just might prioritize it a bit more than normal ;) And thank you for the feedback! I'm starting to lean more towards squishing them all into one video, and just leaving out more specific strategies. Maybe make a second playlist of "deep dives" for each nation or something that go way more in depth.

What are ya using for the thumbnails? I wanna use the AI for a d&d campaign

@@thatoneguy5856 I mentioned it on your other comment, the various free ones out there are great, but mixed results. I'd recommend using 2-3 different ones for each image, and then comparing them to one another. The biggest difference I've noticed is SPECIFICALLY when I download specific LORAs or "models" for each one, and then try that out. That usually customizes it much better for you.

Hey I feel you! I'd be happy to take a look at the new and improved MA Eriu! I'm currently working on EA Marverni, and then Sauromatia, but I'll try to crank them out soon after! In the meantime, do you have any particular questions or issues you see with them that I could throw help to? And as always: thank you so much for the comment and feedback!

@@AOReaper Thank you, I very much appreciate it. I'll try and keep this brief, but here goes: So, I do think the nation has changed significantly since Dominions 5. The removal of Air (kinda), an entire new path of magic in Glamour, new units, etc. I honestly think MA Eriu might be stronger, but my biggest issue has been the early expansion. MA Eriu has a pretty underwhelming cap only sacred, it's not terrible, but archers eat your troops alive - arrows don't seem to care about Glamour (the unit buff), high defense, and your Firbolg all have low Prot (7) and no hats. The new Cattle Raider one which as berserk and fantastic damage also lacks a shield. The only real success I've had (and this is SP) is to take an Awake monster expander, but even there Eriu's options seem a bit underwhelming: the big Boar Pretender can do alright, but needs Reinvigoration, a Dragon is OK, and you get a national discount on the Green one. The nation really wants scales for income because I feel its real strength is your recruit anywhere Sidhe Lord. Unfortunately, they're expensive, and require a lab and temple. I've tested a ton of expansion attempts in SP at this point, and this was the best I've gotten. But, I'm hardly a Dominions expert or veteran. Anyhow, thanks again and I look forward to more videos from you! Best wishes.

@@matthewdrake7 Excellent breakdown! I'll be sure to take a look a little bit later today, as I'm still halfway through the Marverni video, but I'll glance at the new units especially, and the new paths available for sure. Thank you for the feedback! I'm sure we can work and find something that enhances expansion for you by tonight, if I forget: ping me here with another comment and I'll respond with what I've found.

​@@matthewdrake7 Alright I'll type my thoughts out AS I figure out expansion here. Glancing initially at their changes, they seem VERY elfy. I don't disagree about their Sidhe Lords everywhere recruiting being important (raiding esp.), but it would take some work to make them "work" as good raiders against simple counters. Ok, on first expansion attempt, I tried a "basic" elf approach. Took an awake monolith with twist fate and a bit of reinvig. Worked WELL, but not great. I didn't like their lack of killing power, but they expanded well enough (~13 provinces). Still: that's barely passable. Second try: super elf approach - imprisoned, 5x heroism, 2x defense, 1x unsurroundable, little damage, and let's see: alright as long as I don't attack anything with nets (damn you berytos indys), I slaughter everything. After 3 battles your troops are unhittable, and you have researched alt 3 for blur to make it even better. I'll be back on tonight with more examples, just wanted to give you quick ideas. The one that worked pretty well (above) was Great sorceress, imprisoned, 6 dom, 2O/0/2H/0/0/2M, Magic paths 4F/4A/4W/4E/4D/2N/5G/1B, bless = 3x defense, 2x reinvig, 1x str, 1 x awareness, 5x heroism. Makes your sacreds essentially unhittable, and the key here is that LATER (with blur researched) your damn Sidhe Lords are unhittable if thugging. Can't go larger bless on them anymore (it only increases their MOUNTS to size 6, so no weapon/repel bonus), and that was always sub-optimal to begin with. You're trying a tough middle of the road (at best) nation, so I applaud you, but let me know some feedback if you found any success with this. Tonight I'll start experimenting with Chariots more (not high hopes - low prot), and see what I can do for ya. Hope that helped!

True, and great point! Thanks so much for the comment and feedback!

Very possible! ...but when I become the Pantokrator, I'll be adjusting the dictionaries :P Thanks so much for the comment/feedback! (and just for fun's sake, I think its "Ay-gar-tha", but that's all water under the bridge. Call it how you like it ;))

Its just a lazy way I call 'em. Like I said, I treat these big goofballs like hippos, so I have "my own way" of approaching them. In general, the more universally used pronunciation is more like "Ay-gar-thuh", but I play this game so much, and use their name so much, I just roll with whatever works ;) If you're looking for the technically correct pronunciation, I would assume its "Ay-gar-thuh", given the word "Agar's" pronunciation that we used to use when doing research/publishing. This is definitely not something I've ever focused on, I've just rolled with whatever worked for me ;) Thanks so much for the feedback and comment!

@@AOReaper awesome 👍 yeah I didn't want to come across as a dick about it lol, just curious. Technically speaking Illwinter never has given us any definitive guidelines about how anything in the game is pronounced anyway

@@kirbyone Haha no worries! I didn't take it that way at all. Nowadays, people seem a bit too reactive to stuff. I'm a relaxed person, I don't have time to be super upset about anything like that ;) And yea, these guys are too busy making the next Dominions to worry about the minutiae of stuff haha. They let us youtubers and keyboarders figure it all out for 'em!

Ok, great! Thanks so much for the feedback! I'll be sure to touch on this in future videos. I'll try to summarize at the end, if that would help. Thanks so much for the comment!

​@@AOReaperNo, thank you for these videos! I have found them super helpful and very informative. I like your format in particular, I think it provides a little more info than some others. I know it probably wouldn't be the most popular, but I would love to see a video on Pelagia or Oceania

@@RHort-ym7ee I would be happy to do a video on one of those dastardly water nations :P Which age were you most comfortable with so far? Both of those appear in early age (more magic and less armor/weapons) and middle age (more middle of the road). Both have EXTREMELY different setups and playstyles, but I'll give you one spoiler alert that won't change: Rush conjuration 5. Haha ;)

Hey brother, I tried on my latest (Marverni) video to do exactly this in part 1, with the black screen at the end showcasing the major spells I'd mentioned. Does this help, or would a different format be better for you?

I even have a bench mark when I make a army I face the same value in Senatorial Guard if I can beat it it's a good composition

Very true. Oftentimes these comparisons are very valid, but in Dominions I've always found that the HARDEST thing to predict is my gold per turn in a competitive game. You lose a province you didn't expect to an elf raid, then you have an unrest event in your cap, then you have a negative event somewhere losing you taxes, and suddenly you need to field an army with 1500 gold instead of the 3k you THOUGHT you'd have, and you need to eek out every last point of power you can. Still: great comment, and I appreciate the feedback! Its a great idea to do to at least get a benchmark for "army setups"!

@@skoub3466 Agreed. I do the same with middle aged Ulm for "high prot" armies. Its a really efficient test to setup, and its fairly effective to see if you can "punch through" with your army setup.

Hahahaha, great recognizes great! Thanks again for the positive comment and feedback, its greatly appreciated! And don't worry: the metal ain't going anywhere ;)

Love it! Thanks so much for the comment and feedback!

Hahahahah, more true than you might think! Dominions is amazing, because every single game is SOOOO different, and flavorful in different ways. Its very cool: stick with it, and YOU'LL soon be the guy throwing flavor at people, and killing them in cool and neat ways!

EXTREMELY good insight! Very true! Archers, in mass especially, are dangerous because they are able to leverage their entire force at once! I can't really even add anything to what you said, other than the fact that you're completely correct! Thank you so much for the comment and feedback!

Darkness, storm, anything that lowers precision even further. In the end: the only way to really counter powerful spells in dominions 6 is to: 1. Ensure they suffer MORE than you do 2. Ensure that you interrupt the spellcasting 3. Counteract with a powerful spell of your own 4. Bait the spell out with "bait" armies (i.e. small armies to use up resources) In terms of Gifts of Heaven, its often really nice to bait them out, but fliers work AMAZING against Gifts of Heaven, as you watch your opponent start spamming them on their own mage line. Darkness makes the precision SO bad on them that they often just whiff entirely, or at least are much more likely to hit themselves. That would be my recommendation. In addition, various counters exist. Against human mages spamming GoH, try "Rain of Stones" and thump their skulls with rocks until they quit it. In truth, there are plenty of "counters"... sort of, but none are perfect. Very rarely is a powerful spell easily just "blocked". Instead, try to minimize losses by using SMALL armies in sparse line formations, and if possible fly to the rear and get them to kill themselves. You'd be surprised how effective this is. And again: thanks for the comment and question!

Well NOW I am ;) Happy to get to it! Thank you so much for the comment and feedback!

@@AOReaper That's awesome, looking forward to it. I hooe your channel grows, you have a pretty unique way to go about it compared to most other channels and it's cool that you don't just deal in hypotheticals or stick to general strategy, but instead get into a game and show clear examples of some pretty cool stuff in action. It motivates you to try factions you wouldn't have considered before.

@@ag767 I'm glad to hear that! Thank you so much! I felt much the same way: too many hypotheticals, so I felt like I understood a nation, but then when I'd try it: I'd fail in the execution. I'm trying to fix that by SHOWING the execution so it helps. I'm glad it does!

That's my second request for Marverni, so I'll crank one out. Good lord, the piggies are coming! Maybe I'll have to do a boar-bless special ;) Thanks for the comment and the feedback!

@@AOReaper Yay, thank you!

@@TheWayOfPencil Happy to help!

I see we have another true man of culture here ;) Love the comment, thank you for the feedback!

Hey: I appreciate you! Thank you so much for the comment and feedback!

That's a great idea, and CAN work. It takes quite a bit of investment, however, as 510 gold goes, you might be better off with one Master of the Sword with a decent path (like earth, etc), and a small army that he buffs with himself. Cost wise, and then you'd be waiting 2 turns, per Master of recruitment, and then you'd also have to hope the "random" nature hits 3 different paths. If you had those 3 guys sitting around ANYWAYS, I think this is solid, at least in a pinch. I just think it might be a slightly heavy investment. I've found masters of the sword to be better when you use them like scalpels: pick a small PD you can conquer with them solo, and raid with them, or support them with armies, but that's just my experience! Let me know what you find! And thank you so much for the feedback and comment!

I'll throw that in the mix! Thanks for the comment and suggestion! Good lord those goofy giants will be fun to attempt to make reasonable to play for a new player hahaha.

Definitely agree! Very important for chucking rocks, but I didn't feel the cost outweighed the weaknesses/vulnerabilities at least for my expansion. You might feel differently! Let me know the ways you maximize the usage of them, to get the best cost benefit out of them, as I feel like there is definitely some magic to be had, I just haven't worked it out yet! Thanks so much for the comment and feedback!

Yep! Definitely stronger in a lot of ways, but you have to remember to change your habits with summoning. Back in the day we could summon SO many darn magma children, I half the time used them as my entire front line (haha), but now its a little less cost effective, whereas living mercuries and earth elementals (barathrus pact) are way MORE efficient, so the best balance we still gotta work out ;) Thank you so much for the comment and feedback!

Yup! Recruit a few trogs, and just *Stomp Stomp Stomp* the indy's away ;)

Right?! These chonky chonkies are hilarious and fun to play, and yet still so effective! A truly "alien" race, in terms of no humanoids, or normal "elf/dwarf" species, so it feels really unique and neat to play them! Thanks so much for the feedback and comment!