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Yeah I’d love to bring in one more RHP for the pen but it doesn’t sound like that’s going to happen at this point. If they could flip someone in a trade, maybe they coudl free up a pen spot and acquire another pen arm via trade/FA.

I don’t think anyone is arguing against that. Not sure who they could add in the outfield market that would change that though.

I mean it’s another Spencer Turnbull move which is fine considering they have starters and relievers ahead of Joe Ross. Every team needs a swingman.

He was also pretty good last year tbf

Luzardo and Romano would like a word

I dont mind this move, either, although it probably ends Hoffman's time as a Phillie. Ross put up real solid numbers in relief. Not a bad add.

Unfortunately, I think they may have realized Hoffman was probably gone before they made this move. We will see but hasn’t sounded like he’ll be back. Merry Christmas, Sean!

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Eh, every team needs a swingman to eat innings. It’s fine.

Thank for the comment! Curious to see if they can work Crismatt’s curveball in more and get him back to that 2022 form. His stuff doesn’t grade out well but maybe with the Phillies staff it will improve. Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel! Merry Christmas!

I wouldn’t be opposed to shopping Suarez for the right outfielder. He’s probably the most likely candidate to be traded from the rotation. I like Buxton but he really struggles to stay on the field. Suzuki is a great hitter but I think they’d have a lot of issues defensively if they acquired him and they still wouldn’t have a centerfielder in that scenario.

@ Yeah, that’s why I said Buxton for Center Field. Sure he struggles to stay healthy, but maybe all he needs is a change of scenery with how bad the Twins’ vibes were last year. When he’s healthy he’s an MVP candidate. And I definitely agree that I would move Suarez for the right outfielder.

I just don’t trust him to ever stay healthy, and I don’t think a change of scenery fixes that. He’s played over 100 games only twice out of 9 seasons (not counting the Covid season since everyone played less than 100). He is 31 now and set to make $15M a year until 2029. I don’t think the Phillies would be willing to go over the 4th tax threshold for him.

I think they probably ride it out w/Marsh and Rojas in center. I’d love to buy low on Luis Robert but there doesn’t seem to be any news or interest there right now.

@ Yeah I agree that they are likely done adding to the outfield. Wish they would get a legitimate guy out there though.

Yeah the last 2 days have shown they’re likely done w/Taijuan. Painter being up is expected but it’s just a matter of what his role will look like. I think it’d make more sense to use him out of the pen early but I’m sure they’ll have a schedule/plan for him.

I dont really view it as very similar to Strahm since Strahm had been pretty good as a reliever before arriving in Philly and got more money bc he was somewhat established even tho he hadn’t reached the heights he has in Philly. I’d love to bring back Hoffman but everything suggests it’s not happening rn which is unfortunate. We will see tho

@ yeah DD said they’re planning late July? Seems early to me still but he’ll be on heavy innings restriction. Maybe as an opener for Ross? Kinda sims what they do in the minors with the low inning totals

I’d more so compare it to the Turnbull signing rather than Strahm. Showed a lot of potential early but injuries derailed career as a starter. Both signed at 31 years old for about $4M. Both signed to be swingman between rotation and bullpen.

Yeah that would definitely make sense. I wouldn’t mind if they had them piggyback and/or ran a 6-man rotation for 2-3 weeks to ease him in. I know some of the other pitchers wouldn’t love it but just for a few weeks. Curious to see what they do.

I'll take that if that's what he is. Not a big fan of Pederson tbh tho, can't put him anywhere in the outfield. Strictly a DH at this point. A lot of swing and miss that would be added to a lineup that already has enough of that. Would prefer a RH bat if they add a power bat.

I hope so too but it looks unlikely. If they could trade for an arm or add another cheap option in FA, that'd be nice. Doesn't sound like they'll be going over the 4th tax threshold.

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I probably wouldn’t. He’s very good but still walks a ton of guys, I would not overpay for him.

@@phillyinsiderpodcast Do you see them making anymore moves? Like trades? My crazy trade was to send Bohm and maybe a prosecpt or 2 to the angels for Trout while the angels eat a lot of the contract. They can let Sosa & Clemons play third until Miller is ready.

Agreed, 2 years of control too.

W Ben

Yessir! Love this trade

Absolutely, Robert! I think Cotham should be able to get him back to where he was and maybe even better. Just comes down to health.

Yeah I feel very comfortable with him defensively. Even though he hasn't played LF, I think he'll adjust and play it well. Very good right fielder in recent seasons. Even if his power doesn't return, I think he has such a high floor. High contact rate, great plate discipline, etc. Should bring a much needed balance to the order and should be a really good depth piece. Like you said, hopefully K Long can help w it though. The CBP right field wall may help that too. Target Field's right field wall isn't far out but it's about 10 ft higher than CBP's.

I like this move too, I think a healthy Luzardo is a huge add for this rotation especially with Ranger on the last year of his deal. If he performs well, they could extend him and you have a really nice trio of Painter, Sanchez, Luzardo set to take over whenever Wheeler/Nola get older.

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With the Joe Ross signing, it is looking like that could be a reality

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Agreed, Mike! Welcome to the channel btw!

@phillyinsiderpodcast thank you! Glad to be here.

We’re glad to have you! Merry Christmas!

Was one of the better pitchers in baseball in 2022 and 2023.

Who?

C/OF Paul McIntosh

Paul McIntosh looks interesting. His 2024 AA starts look okay. Looks like a potential late 2025 call-up. He dodged a bullet by not signing with the Angels when they drafted him in 2018, choosing instead to attend college at West Virginia. lol

Not sure if he’ll help w the JT workload this year but maybe in time. Could be a call up tho

Noooooooooooo Ranger must NEVER LEAVE

Still not confident enough in the lineup but this is a very nice move

Hey Drew! Hope all is well with you too and praying over you and the fam in Germany! Merry Christmas to you and yours!

Respect. Merry Christmas to you and yours, Titus! Go Phils and Go Twins haha

To an extent yes. I like the Luzardo move and I think Kepler will be better than people anticipate. But I'm sure it's not what most of us had in mind.

Haha maybe. The Luzardo deal might be - makes Ranger a bit more expendable

Also, Merry Christmas to you and yours, Robert!

Agreed, Ben. They clearly do not want to exceed that 4th tax threshold which I understand but it doesn't make it any less frustrating. The Luzardo move helped change my mood on the offseason a good bit and I think Kepler and Romano could actually be better than anticipated. But if it isn't enough in the end, I won't be surprised. Anticipating them to shake things up a bit more next offseason when a few contracts are up and Casty/Bohm will have 1 year left.

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