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@@XcessCapital yeah I’m going to be making my combiner box video next. It just takes me a while to get things done with my actual job also. The output of the combiner box would be 2 strings in parallel. So the amperage would raise, but the voltage would brain the same.

@@luly2323 the max voltage and amperage specs are per string.

What’s the brand name on the clone?

@GavinStoneDIY amen solar, I think I loose 3kw a day from bad mppt drivers

@@bobmonztr ah. Yeah I haven’t heard of those issues. You should definitely try the new firmware.

@@cowboymcq6711 it does help for sure. But often times winter is when you’ll see the worst imbalances. Charging the fully at least once a week will help balance the pack. And with the lifepower4 V1’s getting them to 57v really helps.

@@pedronhfd6969 I honestly don’t think it’s necessary. It’s just something to contain the wires as you put them into the terminals. And then the terminal itself clamps down on the ferrule.

@GavinStoneDIY Thanks so much for the help.

@@Cross75777 I know how it is. Have you tried watching the wiring video I did on the 6000xp?

@ hi Gavin, i have and its been very helpful, I have the whole house on inverter power, but not with the city power on, its very difficult creating a critical load panel because the main breaker panel is In the middle of the house, and the inverter is in the garage, I’m running power from an existing 220 line in garage , The line for Dryer and Hot water, I turned off central air, its nippy in Miami today 6os :), anyway, I’m out sure how long it will last, because I’m not going switch to City grid power, ( my understanding is that if I turn the main breaker on there will be two sources of power and that would cause sparks to fly) anyway, thanks for your reply Gavin

@@Cross75777 yeah creating a critical loads panel can be much easier when it’s not going to be far from the main. Otherwise you’d need to run a decent sized conduit between them. And you may have a lot of circuits to move.

@ Helio again Gavin, so I will fill you in on today, I took the 8/3 gomex from the inverter marked for grid and used it to run the loads, since I have nothing going from the grid to the marked grid on the inverter, the batteries will not charge, its working wonderfully, I just wish I knew enough to allow me to run the loads and charge the batteries when they don’t have enough juicy juice by transferring back to grid, I’m pretty sure this will only happen thru a critical load panel, Until I see about an electrician doing that for me, this seems to work and I will manually turn the grid power on, turn off the inverter and charge the batteries with an the chargers the batts came with, they have gone all day, even now that the sun is beginning to set, really amazing, believe it or not, I decided to get this inverter to take advantage of the batteries I had for my inflatable, I have a 48v outboard which is equivalent to a 20 hp gas engine, I don’t use it much, so I will have a backup energy source if hit by storm or SHTF in other ways, realistically, the best prep is to trust in God to help you threw, he will, hope I didn’t bore you Gavin.

@@mattcwagner I haven’t hit that threshold with the 12,000xp. But my guess would be the same as the output wattage. So around 6kw before the fans start to ramp up.

Yeah anything beyond 2,500watts I usually say to step up to a 6000xp.

@@jasonchristian6262 the array I was using for testing is 2,400 watts.

@@Bgoffgrid3634 the 12kpv’s continuous output is actually 8kw. So that’s something to keep in mind. If you needed hybrid features like net metering or grid interactivity then I would go with the 12kpv or 18kpv. They both don’t need air filters and are outdoor rated also. The 12,000xp is an off grid work horse. So you can use the grid as a backup. You just won’t have those same standard hybrid features.

@ that makes sense now. Thanks for the great videos!

It depends on your generator. But typically you’ll use the normally closed and common I believe yeah.

@@GavinStoneDIY In my case NO and COM was what was needed and works like a charm.

@@SolarinStarke-kt2lm this scenario would assume all panels have the same spec per mppt input.

@ right but you are feeding one side of the MPPT with roughly 24 amps and the other side ( I assume you meant the other side of same mPPT) with 13 amps. I thought you could only combine same numbers 12 and 12 amps for 24 or 10 and 10 for 20 that’s what confused me.

@@SolarinStarke-kt2lm technically mppt 1 has 2 separate inputs. And mppt 2 has 2 inputs also. So 4 inputs, 2 mppt’s. So that’s to allow a scenario like this. It’s specifically for paralleling strings of solar. So technically you could combine them all out in a separate combiner box and send one string in with 30-35 amps worth of solar to each unit. But this allows you to send 2 strings in and it’ll combine them for you.

@@lennieadi a wind turbine? Typically you need a dedicated charge controller for those. They have a very inconsistent output, so a standard mppt wouldn’t work. I believe some of the midnight charge controllers work.

Brilliant. Thank you Gavin. I’m trying to learn as much as I can in planning a system a few years from now. These channels are invaluable. Thank you. Keep up the good work.

@@sammyboyde6489 I don’t have a firmware update video for the Xp. But if you have the WiFi dongle hooked up, then it’s as easy as hitting a few buttons on the monitor site.

@@GavinStoneDIY Thanks Gavin, so quick. I dont have a smart phone and was wanting to do it with a laptop and patch cable, (no blu tooth on laptop) the manual doesnt cover where to plug the cable in. Guess I will have to try and figure the dongel comms out. I'm old and "old tech" so it gets difficult, even to type., eyes... If I got a smart phone for monitoring/updating, would I need to have a time plan, like with verizon to use it for local monitoring around the property? Or would I only need a plan for monitoring when away? Thank You sir, looks like you are having fun with all these new goodies.

@ if you had a smart phone you could connect to it locally with just a Bluetooth. Or the smart phone and the inverter could just use your WiFi assuming you have it. The inverter can’t be updated with just a cable like the older models. You’ll either have to use Bluetooth or WiFi to do that. I still struggle with some tech stuff myself. But I’m learning.

@@tomm2271 it’s likely 2 awg you want. Amazon should have what you need. Just make sure to get it long enough for wherever you need to reach.

@@GavinStoneDIY Thanks for the fast reply. Im simply going to use it to run a few thing during a power outage. I'll have a 12v Lithium with it. I'll need to cut the ends off of the wires in order to attach to the unit.

@ sure thing. yeah, it’s best to use a ferrule on the ends of the wire if you have them. But it’ll work without.

@@BucolicAholic I believe the battery voltage on that unit is 48v. But I’m not sure on the nominal voltage. So that could be a factor. I think it’s a 15s. If it is then the pro battery would be a bit too high of voltage for it. You’d have to do the research on that. If it has the same voltage parameters, then what you’re proposing could be possible.

@@SeleneHammer-pn8hr no. Just 2 really. 4 inputs with 2 mppts.

@@qtrhors1 I don’t think so no. I believe the nominal battery voltage on those is 100v. And the chargeverter is designed for 44v-57v.

@@sudo936 because with lead acid you don’t have that massive inrush current you do with Lithium iron phosphate.

@@GavinStoneDIY Yeah its still makes a spark though

@@sudo936 not so much trying to avoid a spark, just trying to avoid that 200 amp dump into the capacitors.

@@lindaferguson593 I don’t think they would perform better with more PV in that regard. I think as far as surges you sorta get what you get. Have you considered the trade in program for the 6500’s? I realize signature Solar hasn’t treated you the best from what you’re saying. But I would definitely choose an EG4 6000xp over these units if I had the choice.

@GavinStoneDIY the cost factor deters me.

@@ranchodelasirena7485 it’s currently not compatible with the hub no.

@@osvaldogarcia3197 pretty different actually. Different form factor and connections. But lots of the same features. But that’s fairly typical for a hybrid. The megarevo plant and lux manufacturing plants aren’t in the same place no. I think the more we see some of these features people like, the more often they are going to be appearing in other brands.

Yeah these batteries are great. Honestly I don’t think they get enough attention for as nice as they are.

@@s.mendez7160 it’s not a JBD BMS in this. So the overkill app wouldn’t work. I think it’s actually a TDT BMS. I hadn’t heard of them before this. But either way you should be able to adjust any parameters you want with their app for this battery.

It depends on the specs for the panel. But probably 9-10 panels.

@@mlg779 it’s actually fairly quiet. At full PV or full output it does get louder for sure.

@@GavinStoneDIY is the fan running all the time? From the video it sounds loud.

@ no the fans don’t really start running till around 6kw and higher. At the lower ranges it’s nearly silent. I cover this a bit more in my follow up video

Good question. I believe you can set loads as priority and have charging second. So that way it won’t exceed your generators capacity. I suppose worse case you could lower your charging amps a bit if you suspect you’ll be overloading it. But that would sorta be a pain to toggle back and forth.

@@GavinStoneDIYbottom of page 44 in manual I'm reading now says u can set the max watts if generator and it will not exceed 90% of that. So that's an awesome feature. Trying to max charge with varying loads is a hassle

If by huge amounts of time you mean 3 minutes, then yes, this is true. I show the mounting process later on in the video. I suppose you gave up too early.

@@joshuadiaz6914 it comes with both for that price. Positive and negative. That’s why it’s hard to beat that price.

@GavinStoneDIY insane!

@@satguyou I realize others have had similar complaints. I believe I was the first though, a true pioneer. I don’t think adding a paper manual would raise the price. As far as the screen, it is extremely detailed. So it has definitely grown on me. It was a small critique, I even mentioned that in the video. It’s a solid inverter. I’m not sure how much adding color to the screen would raise the price really. But part of my job when I review a product is to look for areas where it can possibly be improved. So if I see something that can be tweaked, I try my best to cover it.

@@chumanji9 the wall mount plate should be fine for what you’re wanting. On my testing section I don’t have it mounted to the wall no. Earthquakes really aren’t an issue where we are.

@@burneraccount3159 technically yes. And that way you could utilize it like a backup generator. But then you’d lose the automatic transfer to grid option. Plus it can save a lot of money if you are powering your loads all the time with the inverter.

Hi@GavinStoneDIY yes I think it's 10 watt consumption hooked up to the grid vs 50. Actually you can still do the grid backup if you have a outside breaker by your meter that feeding your inside main panel and you bring the 50 amp in from the outside panel. Thanks the video BTW, really helpful . I meant to ask, regarding the fan noise , how bad is it? Would a insulated door block the noise?

@ you’ll still hear it for sure. I suppose it all depends on the insulation you have. It stays fairly quiet until 4kw and higher.

@@maxgor7959 I still haven’t seen this edit myself no. But I’ve read some comments from people online that have. EG4 has said they are nearly done with a firmware that rectifies this issue.

@@geraldhenrickson7472 yes this is a hybrid inverter. So it’s capable of grid interactive features plus off grid.

@@Risingstar0324 no you’d need a critical loads panel installed to reap the most benefit out of this inverter. All the loads you’d like to power you can transfer over to that new sub panel.

It depends on the amperage those are pulling. If you don’t have enough battery then the unit will be limited. It can’t blend generator and battery together.

@@RS-lt2ue yes 6 awg wire fits.

Thanks. I purchased one similar to the one on the left, from PowMr, not working at all. It went on standby mode and can't get it out of there. So, I will have to purchase one that actually works.

@@peterad1529 you wouldn’t want to lay the prismatic cells on the side that faces upside down.

@ I mean, that’s not really an answer. What problems arise when one would do this

@@alexherrera3918 technically yes, but not easily. The simplest and safest method is installing a critical loads panel.

@@Bong2-ts6tu it depends on the type of EG4 battery. I know some of their BMS’s weren’t designed to be in series. Either way you wouldn’t have communication no.

@@GavinStoneDIY thank you

@@benjaminsuddeth6448 glad to help.

Per input.

@GavinStoneDIY Thanks 🙏

@@LarryRichelli I have it hooked to a 70 amp breaker. But that’s just because I have a heavier wire size. It can output more than 50 amps. But just for a few minutes. So essentially that 50 amps 12,000 watt limit is the continuous output.

Yeah I’d say they’ll probably transition over to BT for most their models.