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Just add a drop of ILFORD ILFOTOL to the water in the Humminguru washer. It costs around £25 per litre. It will last a lifetime.

Eh, I like Beato, but he often runs down some thought trains that are extremely generalized to his own perspective. I don't agree at all that music has become worthless or that you have to save up to buy records in order for music to be meaningful. In fact, I'd say that's probably the least contributing factor to why music means anything to anyone. I'm middle aged. The music I listened to growing up was either on the radio or on the albums I owned. Music meant a lot to me, especially in my adolescence. But I would guess the majority of the albums I owned I didn't pay for myself. I didn't get my first job until after high school. So everything I 'owned" was either a gift, something my parents bought me, or something I bought with an allowance. That didn't change the fact that music was a big part of my life and was something I built my identity around in a lot of ways, as most adolescents do. So I have trouble believing that the current youth aren't having similar experience just because they can stream most of the music they listen to for free or virtually free. I'm sure whatever music they're into still means a lot to them and I'm sure they're still using it as identity signifiers for themselves. I think the actual difference is homogenization as you talked about in this video. The internet has vastly widened the market, opened up avenues for people to get music to a wide audience without going through a record label etc. And so you probably have larger range of smaller groups of audiences that are listening to a wide range of artists and musical groups/bands. And sure, for as long as this environment lasts, you probably won't get the same amount of cultural phenoms as you did in the past. But that doesn't mean music is worthless or it doesn't mean the same to people. The value and meaning is still there, its just spread out over a wider range of subgroups. Although even in this environment, you do still wind up with some massively popular artists. I mean is there anyone living in a first world country who doesn't know who someone like Taylor Swift is? Or to point to newer artists, Billie Eilish, or Sabrina Carpenter? End of the day, just because the market environment changed, doesn't mean the meaning isn't there for people. And I'm sure the current youth and future generations will still wind up having their cultural landmarks to look back on in a few decades. They might just not be as analogous to our cultural landmarks as ours were to the generation before us.

I would say programmes like Britain's Got Talent didn't help either. They made a lot of people sing only one way and led to technicality being more important than soul or feeling.

I remember grabbing as much physical media as I could from MVC, HMV etc cos it was all dirt cheap! they could see the writing on the wall

The idea that "it was better back in the day", probably used since the language exists, just means "I'm stuck in my time, I wasn't able to adapt (yet)". Everything always changes, and the more something goes in one way, the more the counterpart goes in the other, so as you said there is always some kind of balancing. Yes, internet was a very big and sudden change and everything is of course very different, but different doesn't mean less good. The values, what build a personality, a purpose, an identity, are always changing, shifting, evolving. What I can at least say after 52 years of life is that, if mainstream music has always been mainly crap (there are some exceptions of course), the "less commercial" (for lack of a better term, especially since English is not my first language, sorry...) music coming from the new generation has always been and keep getting more and more exiting and creative every day. How people of their generation receive it? I don't know, but I'm sure very happy about it :D

Would you recommend the 320 x 30 or the 320 x 34? I'm not sure if they had the 34 when you were looking but they have them now - I'm not sure which to get!

Ultrasonic record cleaners damage vinyl by stripping out the high frequencies in the groove which contains 20,000 cycles per second in the waveform which is the height of deviations in the groove. So very delicate. Brutal implosions/cavitation inside the groove are very destructive. Do your research before pulling the trigger on one of these machines. Dave Denyer did a telling test on RUclips, so check that one out. Spatula City Records explains the dangers and how to avoid them too. The best specifically designed manual dry/wet brush and using the stylus to massage the debris out and brushing before and after play is what Linn and many top manufacturers suggest as the quickest, easiest, safest, and most effective solution to removing dirt-related noise and keeping records clean and virgin longterm.

Digitalisation of any creative industry always destroys the artists and eventually the companies involved.

I see a lot of records fans no shade as long as is physical media were good ima cd 💿 guy though 👍👍👍💽💽📀📀

Ima cds 💿 seller on 2024 and ima keep buying cds and selling them to support our favorite artist 👩‍🎨 🖐️🖐️🖐️physical media forever cds and records better sound quality u own the music no internet and support the Artist 🧑‍🎨 Streaming is garbage 🤮🤮🤢🤮🤢🤢🤮 and poor sound quality and keep paying not to own anything 😅😅😅😅

The best music was 1977 until 1986 more or less, at 1988 it was dying. The 90s mostly sucked but today it is absolute crap

The reason young people don’t value music is because it’s shit.

Popular Music peaked decades ago.

The reason is that music is very generic and soulless for the last 15 years or so

Great points, I agree with your views here. One thing I'd like to add in line with your thinking, and in particular the comment about video games: I notice with my kids (both under 10) that they are incredibly visually-oriented. Yes, they listen to music and podcasts, but often want to see any images (moving or not) that are associated with the audio. Even, for example, on Spotify, they desperately want to see the little video loop on many songs. They often prefer to watch a music video rather than simply listen. Of course, regarding videos, we "wanted our MTV" too, but as a Gen X'er (and same goes for all but the youngest millenials) I was and still am perfectly happy having an audio-only experience. For the younger gens, it seems that these distinct experiences are difficult to separate from one another.

Why are people so obsessed with pseudoscience? Like Grestest ):! Silent Gen Boomers Gen X Millennials Gen Z and Gen Allha don’t exist. They are made up labels. See as born in 96 I get put into either millennial or Gen Z yet don’t belong with either. As I am too old to be with teenagers and esrly twenty year olds that started college/university in the 2020s yet too young to be with Misti-Kats 30 year olds and esrly 40s years old that were in college and university in thr 3000s. Yet 2001 was the real millennium and not 2000. Everyone around the world did celebrste the millennium celebration a complete year too early. Us born 96 were 4-going/onto-5 when the real millennium happened just in pre-K/JK at the time(preschool was stsrt in thr 18th and 19th cdnturies in Europe). Us born in 96 didn’t start high school until 2010 even though it was the stsrt of the 2010s or also was the last year of the 201st decade of the zgregorian calendar. Both the Julian and zgregorian calendars never had a year zero in them. Say us born in 97 is Gen Z for stsrting high school in 2010 is like say those born in 2006 are Gen alpha for stsrting high school on 2020. Us born in 96 finished high school in 2014(even though I stayed two extra years) and finished college/university undergrad before Covid(college is different here in Canada than the ststes as our colleges peograms are 1-2 sometimes 3 and our universities are 3-4 years undergrad and 3-4 years grad school). I had two jobs before Covid after high school in my early twenties prior to Covid in my mid twenties. Plus I vaguely remember 9/11 and the early 2Ks as I was in K when the terrorist attscks occurred(dsycare in the morning and kjndergsrten in the afternoon) on mornkng of thr 254th day of the new millennium. I also rewatched it as an adult(I think we all rewatched it by now as it is roughly 25 years ago and our memories can’t remember forever. There were a lot of arguments of sheathed there was another plane,talks of people jumping off the building to defenestrate aa clmmottong suicide as choice of whether to stst on the byikding and die or jump out the building and die as too scared to be rescued, how many people die,deaths of two dogs and several first rescuers going up the building to rescue people,and survivors with burnt marks were all on the news days after the event occurred aka esrly post-9-11. Music TV and movies were censored and z Britney Spears cancelled her world tour at time she was still dating JT from N’Sync. George Bush Junior commencing war on Afghanistan and giving secret privilege to government officials and their children to not part take in the upcoming war. The conspiracy thst the !8:$3: did it and CIA were involved arose, and there bribing bomb and it being a planned attack and airports changed after that event also the show bomber just a few months after the terrorist Attscks). Yet I’m sick and tired of the pseudo sciences on generations as real generstions are differnetb than these bullshit generstion cohorts of 15-20 year as real Jen have a range. My parents are older thN1// my peers parsnts. My mum is 14 years older than someone born in 1977 and 10 years older than someone born 1973 yet someone that had no high school degree prior to getting their HD later on. Could’ve had a child around my age even though I should be older. Someone born 1979-60s is old enough to be my mother’s child if she had a child young. When my mother was in her thirties when she had my sister and me in the mid nineties. What I am demonstsrdting is that these generation cohorts is a social concept or construct like rscs and gender crafted by sociologists or pseudosciences than biologists,psychologists,and geneslogists or pathologists. They are based off of arbitration than logic that isn’t sterotypes or pseudoscience.

Problem is not the kids but the parents... they were the mp3 generation, they had a harddisk full of music but their harddisk is probably dead after all those years. Most of them have no (half)decent hifi, no collection on cd or vinyl. Their kids have never learned the value of music. I think kids that grew up in a family surrounded by music in the house will still care more about music. Many songs still remind me of being together with my parents, friends, girlfriend, pets,... beautiful memories, sad memories,... were always attached to songs. It's the soundtrack of my life! For the current generation it will be background noise and 5 sec tiktok snippets. Music was my therapy, maybe because of the lack of music in their lives that so many have mental issues nowadays. We were listening to music when feeling bad or sad, nowadays they buy (il)legal substances in stead of an LP / CD.

Ah the days of paying 15 bucks for an album. I miss the 90s. My whole life was based around my heavy metal.

I’m an average 70 yr old guy. I love technology. I love RUclips streaming. I remember when I would fork out a few hard earned bucks to buy records that I would be very disappointed in when I finally got home and listened to them. Now I just click on RUclips and can listen to absolutely anything. Very easy and convenient.

I make electronic music. Many of the comments I get are relating the music to video games. Since MTV, the concept of music being a stand alone art form has dwindled.

But if there were any good music being made in the present day, people would still want to own it regardless of the format. The recording industry is imploding because of its insistence on an absolute stranglehold: no outside influence, no variables, everything written and produced by the same handful of hacks. People don't respond to music in the same way that past generations did because the music is terrible. We've been hearing this same sort of mass-produced pop awfulness since the late '90s (i.e., when Britney Spears and the associated wave of boy bands first emerged), so one could argue that the industry's long-term strategy was *always* to make music a disposable medium. Whether or not some other medium will fill the hole remains to be seen, but there's no doubt that the industry has killed bands and songwriting and essentially everything recognizable in pop music. The human touch has been entirely eradicated, and will remain so for as long as the bald Swedes/Norwegians maintain a death-grip on the recording industry.

Could be wrong but things seem less precious when they are more abundant. Having said that, music meant the most to teens and early 20 somethings in my days and I'm far from that so it's worth asking that age group.

What about Taylor Swift?

I don't think owning music has anything to do with it, in the old times, we just listened to the radio and recorded our favorite songs on tape. It's not just music, pretty much everything has become less specific to the age. There have always been different styles. In the 90s Grunge and Rave were very prominent, but a lot of other subcultures have been around a long time, Gothic comes to mind. Today you may have more styles, yes, and I think those who follow a specific style are still passionate about it. The difference is that the mainstream - of everything incl. music, movies, art, fashion - has just become one unified broth that is ultimately exchangeable and bland. Sign of the times

my guy just completely disregarding the H in adhesive. wtffff

There’s a term in Economics called “diminishing marginal utility”, better known by the expression: “when you have a lot of something, it’s worth less”. Tech advances since the 1970’s have made it much easier to MAKE music, and much easier to DISTRIBUTE music. We now have a WHOLE LOT of music. So it’s worth less.

People don’t dance in clubs like they use to 😐

As a former owner of a very sizable record collection numbering in the thousands, I am at a complete loss as to why people still cling to this obsolete, noisy, capacity limited medium for listening to music when superior digital sound and convenience are now available. I do miss the beautiful record jackets and the music store experience, but other than that I am very satisfied with having the music world’s catalog at my fingertips for a nominal monthly fee and would never ever go back. Now, with high quality headphones, I can listen to a recording such as Brian Eno’s Apollo Soundtracks in clear and expansive digital sound with none of the surface noise and analog compression that absolutely ruined it first me back in the day. The cheap and noisy pressing I owned infuriated me and I tried to fix it by buying it several times, only to be confronted with the same issue because it was a noisy mass pressing. I didn’t always have the money to buy an expensive German or Japanese import. I sure don’t miss those days and can only laugh at you “purists” for your insistence that this is the best way to listen to music when it is most definitely not.

Streaming ruined music. That's the answer

All you have to do in order to recognize the dysfunction in the industry is ask, who owns it? Pretty self-explanatory why things are corrupt and brutal on the artists and fans

I think the same happened/is happening to films and series. Now you just download an album and if you don't like the first 10 seconds skip it, move onto the next one. If you have to leave home to purchase physical media you have higher standards and value it more.

I think it's money. If you have to use your small amount of money on something you choose, and some of it is music, you're going to listen to what you chose over and over. Now you've also spent a bunch of time with it, and it's part of your life. It works better if the songs are in the same order every time because the end of this song leads into the beginning of the next song. This is the soundtrack to your life. A play list with a bunch of songs you like that play in random order doesn't do the same thing.

Video games are the big thing now. People even listen to video game soundtracks when they aren’t playing the actual games. Music doesn’t stand on its own anymore….it is now simply the soundtrack to a game, Marvel movie, or TikTok video.

Technology and economics. Everything you’re talking about was the consequence of recording technology, which created the music industry of the 20th century. It was a novelty. Computers and the internet changed everything. Recorded music is now extremely cheap to make and distribute, and no one will pay much for it. It has been devalued. Anyone can do it, so it isn’t special. It has been democratized, but it also isn’t worth anything. Before recording technology, it was common for many households have instruments, and for almost everyone to play them to some degree. People used to gather around a piano to sing together. Or sit around a campfire with acoustic instruments. There were traveling minstrels who would scrape by somehow. The only place large numbers of people would gather to listen to music was a symphony, in a facility that also included opera and theater. That was the only place that composers or musicians became “famous”. And there were very few. Now there is the opportunity for musicians to form small followings from around the world, which creates a different dynamic. No one has really cracked it yet, and all that exists is manufactured disposable trash pop from the legacy media with big money behind it. Which nobody cares about. Except the teenage girls it’s aimed at, who are influenced by it.

I hate this generation. Every decade since the 50s had a look and sound. An exploration of both. Taken to their logical conclusions and bookended at the start of the next 10 years. Explore a whole new set of sounds and look. Exploring parameters. Theres beautiful expression while working in that. Its focused. This generation.. doesnt care?. Generational baton passing canceled. Boring. Rather celebrate celebrity instead.

Radio is not listened to on a daily basis anymore where every genre played their top 40 and everyone knew them all. Me, I hardly ever listen to the radio in the car. So it is that simple.

Too bad Rick and others like yourself missed out on the indie rock renaissance of the 00s. Unless you were hip to the indie record labels, indie rock radio stations, festivals, websites, and even magazines in that decade, you missed out. The problem is Rick B and others are hung up on charts, something which DYI and later indie broke away from. But progressive rock of the 70s also flew under the charts and is still being talked about today. You guys are just grossly out of touch. Besides that, there are thousands of years of civilization with human generations that weren't defined by popular music. BTW, since the 90s and before Gen Z was old enough to identify with music, there was the 00s. Go educate yourself. Start with The Flaming Lips, The Soft Bulletin; Wilco, Yankee Foxtrot Hotel; The New Pornographers, Twin Cinema; Modest Mouse, Good News for People Who Love Bad News; Blonde Redhead, 23; Arcade Fire, Funeral; Bon Iver, For Emma, Ever Ago; Fleet Foxes, Fleet Foxes; Death Cab for Cutie, Transatlanticism; Interpol, Turn on the Bright Lights; Spoon, Gimme Fiction - just to name a few landmark albums in the 2000s.

Yeah i agree that music and movies and tv and video and pc games have all gone downhill in quality. is it the content creators or the higher ups and executives making decisions or both? Is does seem like less creative effort is being put into the content and i also think this began in the late 90s like others say

I've always said this that after the 90's there hasn't been a decade defining music as music today is just absolutely shit and generic.

Young people don't care for sex either, among other things (as self-reported in polls, showing a big decline in frequency of sex and even relationships, and a huge hit on loneliness). They have lost any drive...

I always thought it was idiotic to allow yourself to be in some sense 'defined' by the music you listened to, and I hated that constant, inane - and yet apparently vital - question, "What music do you like?". A good song is a good song.

Not trying to be smart mate but this is all very obvious. Wouldn’t have thought it was worthy of a video tbh. Sad. But obvious 🤷‍♂️

I notice you skipped from glam rock, which peaked around 1973, straight to britpop - a gap of around 25 years. And what you missed out was metal, punk, the mod revival, the ska/bluebeat revival, 80s 'falklands' pop, rap, acid house - and all the subgenres of (most of) these. Music probably stopped 'defining a generation' around 1980 (at the latest). Oasis were just a quaint throwback to more innocent times. You're right on the button about music failing nowadays, though. As a massive consumer of music, in the last month, I've discovered two bands for the first time that I'm (probably) going to have a lengthy relationship with. When I spotted the first (a post on Reddit led me to their Spotify, where I fell in love with their latest LP, to their BandCamp, where I bought it.) A couple of weeks later, I bought a remix LP of the same LP (it's unrecognisable from the original!) I'd mentioned to a couple of people that I'd discovered a new band with a unique sound - and that it was the first time I'd felt this enthusiastic about a discovery since the turn of the century. Ten days later, I discovered another 'new to me' band. Not as unique as the first, but pleasantly reminiscent of a band I'd loved since the 90s -with a savage modern twist. You wait over twenty years for some decent new music to come along - and then two come along at once!

My middle school kids listen to a lot of music but it's almost exclusively through video games, movies, and TV shows, never for its own sake.

LPs are great until you have to move.

Growing up in the 80s entertainment was something special. When you got to watch a good movie it was an event. I used to read the TV guide to plan out what was going to be watched on TV/Cable. Now we have a flood of entertainment and we are over stimulated by it. Music is something you listen to in the car or on a walk, no one listens to music at home on a good stereo.

Just another symptom of a shattered culture and a disappearing society.

This is just my impression, I have no facts to back this up. When I was in high school, a big part of people's identities were attached to the type of music they liked. Not always, but often, it played a part in the scene you were involved in, or the social circles you hung out with. But when I think of my friends now, very few of them would say music plays a central part in their lives. My parents were the same in the 80's; music was incidental. Nowadays, kids form their social connections differently (like you mention, video games are a great example). But I work with people in their early 20's, and there's always a proportion who very much loves music. I would say a similar proportion to older folks like me who still do obsess over music, and are still inspired by musical curiousity. So I would say the proportion of people who put that sort of value into music is roughly the same as it ever was, it just has less relation to one's image (I have noticed young people being less concerned with genre loyalty), and more to do with the genuine love of the art.

I miss the days when music wasn't even recorded.

My kids 9/12 don’t care about music they only like RUclips and games 🤷‍♂️. Back in the 90’s you came home put on MTV watch some weird music videos and the social thing on the schoolyard was the music you saw and the crazy shows like Beavis and Butthead/Daria/C Deathmatch/ Pimp my ride and The Osbournes. And when the Internet started everybody was using Napster. After 22:00 The uncensored music videos started 😜 Cradle of filth 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻