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Have you ever the videos where guys are using a blow gun or a pressure washer on a car and all the paint is coming off, that'll happen lol. Delamination 👍

@Bergs9317 thanks, I appreciate that. I haven't used the PRD627 but want to get one. I believe they are very similar to the 717. I believe olie_olie_paintz has one on his youtube channel. That might give you an idea. But if you are in the fence, I wouldn't hesitate buying another Porphis mine have been flawless, hold up to aggressive thinners and gun wash machines plus the ly sell all the spares if you ever do need them. 👍

@ that’s good to hear! Sounds like most people love them so I think I’m gonna try one! When you ordered which version did you buy? “Standard” or “650ml cup” I want it to come with a cup until I get the cup adapter ordered haha. The company said standard comes with cup, but confused why there’s an option for 650ml cup then? Haha

@Bergs9317 yea they are great guns. I ordered the standard, that will be a white nylon pot and the 650 will be a pps style pot and adapter. If you are using 3m pps it's the no.9 adapter or s9 if your using pps2

@ wow thanks a bunch. Saving me tons of time trying to find that info! Haha nylon pot it is! Appreciate it big time! Can’t wait to try one out now!

@@paulphillipspaintwork How long did it take you to receive your gun from them? Does it take a while for it to get shipped? I ordered Wednesday night and it has yet to be shipped! Just can’t wait to spray it!

Thanks Marcin, yes both full air and full liquid. 👍

Oglądam twoje filmy i widzę że do claru używasz 715 bo mam i 715 i 717 ale też widzę że 715 ładniej rozlewa clar masz to samo zdanie

I use the 717 for clear, I have swapped the fluid tip and air caps because I wanted to use the blue gun for clear coat, the 717 is better for me.

@@paulphillipspaintwork ok Paul dziękuję bardzo za odpowiedź 👍

A to jest jakaś różnica jak się da końcówki 717 do 715

Thanks Stephen, they are both both great guns, I'd go with the 717 because you can get one new for the same price as a used iwata. I have had no issues with my Porphis guns they are still like new. Just sometimes you don't know what you are getting when you buy used (unless you know who you are buying it from).

@paulphillipspaintwork your right about buying used, it has a level of risk. Is the 717 real adjustable? I mean, does it still spray well if you bring the fan and fluid in a lot to do something like a spot blend?

@stephenwhite5444 yes mate it's got quite a lot of control, they are great guns.

@bigfakerotarygangster I'm back using spies hecker, and I agree. I won't use any other paint. Yes the pps adapter is an s9 for my guns. 👍

@ nice! Thanks mate

@@bigfakerotarygangster no worries 👍🏻

Hello, it's great to hear from Poland 🇵🇱 I hear great things about Poland, I have Polish friends at work. The Porphis spray guns I like to have the fan wide open and the fluid wide open as well. I use 27 psi (just under 2 bar) 👍

@@tbc4446 they are pretty good 👍🏻

@oussamabentallah9868 I've never tried, so I can't really comment but I don't think it would be good.

@JohnWD40TC02 thanks mate, I'm looking into possibly an inferred style a bit like the ones @oli_oli_paintz uses. I think that's probably where the best overlap between price and power is 👍

The ones that Joel uses are awesome but they must be up in the tens of thousands but they must do a smaller version🤔

@JohnWD40TC02 I'll have to put my r&d hat on and figure it out lol.

That's the plan lol 👍

Try to find out what cfm your compressor is, you want have the same cfm or more that the spray gun requires. Also having a good size receiver tank helps. I.e 100l

Thanks Powuse, I really appreciate it 👍

Thanks, certain types of aerosol may react negatively. I'm only trying to apply a small amount of heat to dry it. I don't want to heat the panel too much.

This paint is applied all in 1 visit exactly as you see in the video so it doesn't require a drop coat. But I use this gun at 26 psi if that helps

@ScottSmead3 lol It sucks that there is no visual when you use the adjust button. I'm back on spies hecker now so colour matching isn't a problem anymore lol.

@AbcAbc-lg5zi great question, basically it's the distance to panel while applying the orientation coat. You have to be unusually far away. This also works well if any colour is giving you issues like 3 stage pearls or tinted clears looking a little odd. I'll leave the Standox video below, keep an eye his distance to the panel when doing the orientation coat. 👌 ruclips.net/video/bK9vl72JKtA/видео.htmlsi=v7hcHVCzF168iKxT

@@paulphillipspaintwork thanks I’ll keep that in mind. Sometimes tho I think it looks ok then once it’s dried I’m like oh no looks a bit patchy lol that’s my main worry with standox you need to get it while the base coats still wet. If something doesn’t look right after it’s dried and you decide to apply another coat it it doesn’t ever sit right 🤦‍♂️ apart from that it’s a brillaint paint system

@AbcAbc-lg5zi there is a way I re applied base by putting a lot of wet bed over the base that has dried then mixed the base 2:1 with wet bed and applied that into the new wet bed. In this case I could see through my base. I have a video of me doing it. It's 11 mins in ruclips.net/video/wPd5oZHCjE0/видео.htmlsi=PNr-47Jkfy5rLUM6

@@AbcAbc-lg5zi maybe try in a test panel first.

A lot of people have said their chips are good, but this place never had the chips or made many spray outs, so I was left to pick from what visualise was offering. To be honest it gave me good solids too.

@ElizabethAnn-u4w great question, the paint will peel off. The 1st stone chip or time it's pressure washed. As soon as that paint is put under any kind if pressure or stress, it'll let go it has nothing to bond (hold) on to.

Do I have to sand it or can I just apply the primer ?

@ElizabethAnn-u4w that depends on what primer you have, sand it just to be safe. And I would probably sand that with p500 as well. That way you won't have issues down the road.

@@markpecoraro5290 1.3 for both.

@@markpecoraro5290 great for the money, I don't think you can beat it.

@@paulphillipspaintwork for sure . A lot cheaper than the Sata . Looks like there well made

@markpecoraro5290 yea they are good quality and they also sell spares and needle nozzle kits 👌

@@paulphillipspaintwork I’m preety happy with them . I have the 715 ,716 . Both 1.3 . I’ve been painting for 27 years. In a dealership in Michigan

@markpecoraro5290 thanks, yes the split tip is epic. It's my favourite gun 🤘

You have some valid points, possibly to wet to soon but the rep didn't mention it to me when they were out to see how I was getting on, this would only cause dye back if it was the issue. The primer was the shade suggested on the computer for that colour, and water base paint and solvent don't mix so I cant tint the primer unless ppg have something that helps bind the two together that I don't know about as this is the first time using ppg. But no worries now as I have left this place and am back on the mighty Spies Hecker where know the system inside out.

@@paulphillipspaintwork Unfortunately I find some reps havent a clue, they do a demo or tell you stuff about a product but are parrot fashion just saying what they been told, experience here is key. Any heavy pearl of certain colours need specific primers to give better coverage, My golden rule is the colour of the under paint decides the match lots of people dont get good colour match but use wrong primer colours, you cant go wrong with tinting primers with a colour similar to the final colour. It defo helps to get the coverage on the tricky colours like pearls and reds yellows, also I know you might have a few cars to paint in a day but as the artist here its your call put a light coat on first always then sit back see what ite like before you hit it again. I always dry blend and I noticed you did the blend first using a to of material, I mask off the blending panels then make sure the repair is covered then remove the masking and on the final pass float thee blend into the door lightly you used so much paint on the blend in my opinion. hope you are happier in the new job.

22°c 👍

@vasiliskaradimos yea I totally agree, there's not many skilled guys around and there aren't many appreciates coming into the trade either. Keep pushing tho.

@kseries20-24only thanks I appreciate that 🙏

@jimmypratt6450 good for man, thats a big step to have taken. I have started my own business PainTeX, selling paint tools like colour matching torches and uv chip repair kits. And that's doing quite well so hopefully I'll be able so get my own unit soon to paint and sell my products from.

@@paulphillipspaintwork Keep pushing , trust me its worth it and will pay off . I push work away every week and pick and choose what i want to do . I do work for another RUclipsr ie High Peak Autos i'm jimmmy the magician lol and wish i had a wand at times .

@jimmypratt6450 that's awesome I'm a subscribing to hi peak lol I'm definitely going all in with my business. I joke I'm unemployable because I can't work for people lol

@JohnWD40TC02 thanks mate, keep running with it, I love to hear your opinions, you know so many talented people round the world which gives you a unique perspective. 3m have some special editions acusprays coming soon. 🤐 I've seen them. 😀 honestly I'm not sure if you would get any value for what you do but it's definitely a cool idea for switching between colours quickly. But new guns are nice lol. My new place is really cool they are super relaxed as long as jobs are coming out of the ovens, and the numbers on the sheet for the day are good. 👌

Ok thanks Paul I'll keep a look out for the new 3M guns, you are right getting one is pretty pointless but so was the other 15 clear guns I own😅🤓but as you say it's always nice to get some new ones👌 It's great to hear you are doing ok at your new joint mate, lets hope it continues🙏👍

@JohnWD40TC02 lol I love new gun day lol. Yea I think I'll stay at thos place for a while. 👍

@sheldongilbert808 thank you, I really appreciate it 👍🏻

@sheldongilbert808 thanks I've been tempted to move out there. I know quite a few guys that do it out there.

@sheldongilbert808 thanks I love painting cool stuff lol

It sounds similar to the place I left. If I don't like what's going on I'll find someone else and leave. I have tried to talk to them about it in the past but nothing ever happens and they think I'm a trouble maker for raising the issue so I just leave. I do try to stay on top of my hours if I can but I always do my best. Like you say guys like us paint rings round people anyway so our hours should be OK.

Agreed 👍🏻

@AllTorque I'd love to do some videos detailing prep, primer buy management in these places don't want cameras on the shoo floor, half of them don't allow you to take pictures of your work.

@@AllTorque sounds good. I look forward to hearing them 👍

@ANDY-we7mr I've started my new job, this is the last video from that place. Inferred lamps are pretty straight forward, and the paint your using will have Inferred info on it.

Yes mate

@timdeakin2524 lol that's what I've done.

@@paulphillipspaintwork ppg is a terrible paint system. The only reason anyone believes it’s good is because it’s extremely expensive!!

@@timdeakin2524 expensive doesn't always mean good lol

@srodgie thanks Steve, yea it was a strange feeling to not fit in like but hey on to better things now. That would be cool, but honestly painting is mostly experience on the gun. And knowing how to fix stuff that goes wrong 👍

@@adampye905 totally agree if we spend 8-9 hrs together per day we have to get along

@richardbusby7141 I'm OK with the products. My issue was colour matching, the camera said it was a match and when you sprayed it, it was different. They had their camera replaced while I was there, and the rep came out a few times. Nothing changed tho. I asked how to get the best out of visualise but it wasn't much better.

@Porphis-Group thank you, I really appreciate that. Your spray guns are amazing and I will be buying more, I really want to try the PRD 627 vs type. Keep up the good work 👏 👏👏

@MichaelNeiland to be completely honest I haven't heard many good things about ppg lol

@@sphdg thank you 👍

There were no colour chips at this shop, we were using the camera with the latest computer updates. The one visit modifier is T4900 there are videos about it on RUclips. The grey shade on the car is the shade the computer suggested for the colour we were applying. Also I don't understand why I would seal anything as the correct primer shade was applied, it's just adding an extra step for no reason. In the UK we only put sealer on new panels. I have never seen anyone seal over primer?

@lutra7670 never lol. It was more of a thing at college but now we just follow the mixing ratio and is always good enough.

@glen4407 The paint can make colour matching better or worse. The reason I sing the praises of spies hecker and standox is the camera is really accurate, if it tells you it's good then it's good and I can trust it. Just saw your short. There are quite a lot of variants. Those last 3 looked much closer than the first 3

@@paulphillipspaintwork I always joke that the beep when the camera is done should say good luck. The paint rep just tells me I need to learn how to pick the right one. I use the one it says is the best. Global match is never good. I just wish they made color decks.

@glen4407 lol everyone said to me "just pick what you think is best" the problem was I didn't have time to make a spray out prior to painting so I didn't have a starting point. I.e it needs to be redder or bluer ect.

@JohnWD40TC02 thanks mate, yea it's a shame. It wasn't a bad place, but you would the we would all work together for the good of the team, but there was none of that there. I enjoy doing the voice overs that way but sometimes I forget that some people may be new to the channel and might be wanting to learn and I'm just rambling on about something else lol.

@JonathanCox94 thanks mate, I really appreciate that. I have found a good place, close to home and everyone is really friendly. Which is a massive plus. I prefer the tinted clear coat version of these colours. I completely get what you are saying. If you have to put a lot of base on like that, it's probably worth baking for 10 -15 mins before applying clear coat to try and avoid dye back. 👍

@robborobbo8174 who ever was priming the car had the responsibility to camera the car and then use the grey shade that was suggested so it should always be the correct grey shade. But I have heard guys the the gunman complaining that ppg doesn't always give the correct grey shade.

​@@paulphillipspaintwork I'll agree with both of you here. I'll either use a spectral gray sealer or base coat first. But I have been burned on a PPG ground coat recommendation. It was a complete 67 Mustang. They suggested a number 6 on a red pearl which took a third coat for coverage. If I had used a number 5 or 4 probably two coats amd done.

@class5bodyworks I've heard quite a few people have been caught out by the ppg grey shade suggestion.

@sbr1160 that's bull sh*t man you don't need that at work. I always joke "what do I know, I've only been doing it for 20 years." And I do asked other people's opinions and for help if I need it. But sometimes they know best 🤣 I did get advice from a painter once who said "if they tell you to do something a certain way and you know it's wrong, just do it because it's their mistake. If you then do it your way and there is an issue for whatever reason it's your falt for not listening, so put the responsibility on them"

@@paulphillipspaintwork That painters advice was spot on, the reason I got laid off was the stupid carpenter was good friends of the boss, the boss even knew he was in the wrong haha so better of our and sane than in a job and ready to cause physical harm to a tosser.

@@sbr1160 🤣 did you find somewhere better to go? Things like that are usually a blessing in disguise

@@paulphillipspaintwork yeah opened a vape shop in Belgium, at that point I'd had enough of working as a welder in the UK thanks to Tom the twat haha

@sbr1160 that's awesome 👏👏👏 congratulations. I kinda want out of the trade, I started PainTeX selling paint products to painters using my knowledge of the trade. I'm not sure I can work for people lol. I've had enough bad bosses lol