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It's not impossible, but definitely a tall ask. The boss is level 22, double level 11, anyway glad to help.

Naw man, you need a bit of everything, hard to kill with a sword if an enemy avoids your attacks or repels physical damage. Same goes for mage. Magic users of quality are few for quite some time, it's simply the most useful choice. Any build can be incredible, it's just a matter of how and when. I suggest doing whatever you enjoy most. Best isn't best if it's no fun.

Not to my knowledge, luck is for landing critical hits with almighty, because it never strikes a weakness, that or inheritance skills is the only way to add turns with the merchant. It does affect item drop though, and you can stack lucky find.

@@optimusgrime8265 You can crit with almighty in this game? Good to know. I wasn't sure if lucky find stacked either. Thanks for the info. On thing I noticed while grinding, is that difficulty affects both types of xp gain. The higher you are above the level of enemies you fight the less xp you get. On easy I don't think it'll go lower than 7 per enemy. On hard it won't go lower than 6 xp. On storyteller the lowest it'll go is 18 xp. I found that out when testing if gold and mag drops were different between difficulties.

you think i can go luck focused with strength and merchant +brawler for crit?

@@aroach1630 apparently if you don’t mind a hint of spoiler, they lean to the idea that the protagonist gets more value on physical stuff But doesn’t help that many of the characters seem to hard lean into one particular stat respectively which applies strongly to the first 3 allies especially with them likely due to them creating the logic you should gun for magic on protagonist if stroll, hulken and the marketable plushie lean on dmg, tanking and speed a lot.

All I know is I never fight tactical battles except bosses because farming money with merchant lets you buy every rare item soon as it's available, also if you spend about an hour any time you find respawn crystals you can instantly max out any new Archtypes, my team is killing monsters 10+ levels above my own on hard. Sort of disappointed regicide isn't available at the start.

Sure thing, glad to help

Just a heads up endurance/agility gets better later on but it's tough goin at first, at least on hard

We a lil dirty round here, welcome aboard

Thanks man I appreciate it, this vid is pretty old but most of the info is still useful, hopefully helps

My mace even gives me another turn.

Lmao ya mate thanks for the laugh, been doin a buncha shit lately had to remodel a bathroom and do some other stuff, more laps on the engine

@@optimusgrime8265 Busy hands help with sanity mate, would be good if you could swing over and do some bathroom repairs here too....I'll put the kettle on.

@@feanornoldor4919 For sure mate, I just heard about tam tams, least that's what I think they are called? Aussie cookies you can drink coffee through by biting off the ends? If I move to AU I'll be 300 pounds in a week bro!

@@optimusgrime8265 Tim Tams mate, there sure are pure choclate decedance...I get around in my dressing gown and slippers Hugh Hefner style when I'm indulging in them.

@@feanornoldor4919 I need to go, maybe find a nice bird to settle down with in the outback, away from the rest of the world, sounds like a little slice of heaven.

Yeah bro you good, luck even gets the best bonus, it starts at 9 if i remember. Luck is also really good for item drops and critical hits, so putting points in is a good idea anyway.

Yeah man, mage main makes the game smooth for sure

I did the same thing so far. Not out of the dungeon yet but I got the benefit of inheriting skills bot was really good for taking out some undead.

Strength is fine it's just suited to a different style.

Did you ever play the OG Valkyrie Profile? That's where it came from. If you want persona without a time limit, try smt, if you haven't already, basically the same thing with all the slice of life stuff taken out.

Hopefully Regicide unlocks at full release, the game can be quite easy and a little hand holdy as well, I wish you could turn tutorials and auto-equip off.

There is no 1 ring to rule them all, agi end knight is also super busted, pull agro and take no hits, even if they do hit you with a ton of endurance it hits for like 5-15 damage lol. This is just if you need help getting strong easily

Sure

@@optimusgrime8265 thanks for the reply, but unfortunately I don't see them :D .. still privated

@@dainbramage8355 only the loot guide is relevant after the next gen update, not sure if they would be more harm than help. I watched and they seem outdated. Sorry for the confusion.

@@optimusgrime8265 thats okay. Would you instead consider unlisting the videos instead of privating them then? They wont show up publicly so it wont spread outdated info but one could still get to them with a link. They were not only insightful but entertaining. If not, then no worries man, just wanted to rewatch them again for nostalgia, but I would really appreciate it

@@dainbramage8355 Or research, sure unlisted is fine. I'll try for today. Hope it helps.

I agree. lol did I try? I was trying to chip the manticores in trad dessert lol even the wolves at the very beginning can be killed, but I don't think they give exp, because you are just supposed to run, but you are right it changes the stronger you get, I can't wait for the gunner archtype that shoots lasers, looks fun.

@@optimusgrime8265 I'm excited for the gunner, too! Though I've gotta say the Merchant sounds fun. Sucks that you can't actually *_use_* it in the demo even if you complete the quest to get it, but throwing money at people sounds hilarious, as do stealing MAG and the basic boost to loot drops.

@@SuperiorPosterior Brother you most definitely can play as the merchant, the demo is of 3 days 1st day goes to leveling our wisdom to get Brigitta's quest 2nd day we Complete the quest 3rd day we Unlock the merchant and go to the Necromancer Dungeon to try it out

Yeah man, makes short work of the goblins for sure

having mage in the optional dungeon is a breeze??? idk maybe having a weakness makes the fights that much harder but i can tell you as a person who tried to get healer to rank 10 in the optional dungeon on hard mode your asking for it. even without weakness they still do like 50 damage 1-3 times and thats when your higher level

@@jinxtheslugfromslugterra1760 my bad; I meant having Mage on is a breeze when instakilling mobs so you can replenish MP. I leveled up to 19 without using Healer or Mage in hours of squad fights too (and yeah it wasn’t easy lmfao), just to be able to kill the goblins in the overworld. Hence, a breeze :3 also at this point, using three mastered archetypes to passively farm for hero’s leaf of light is a great way to rank up benched archetypes hahaha

@@jinxtheslugfromslugterra1760 an easy way to grind, especially for healer, is the crystal that spawns skellies in the 2nd floor of grand cathedral they die in one hit and long as you don't kill the crystal they are infinite, also you have 9 days 'until the calamity' or whatever so after the demo is done still plenty of time to get stuff done.

Lvl 25 on mine and I also have 4 archetypes maxed out for my main character and my other two characters are also maxed out on there archetypes I also have 60 hero leafs of light but I think I’m going to stop where I’m at i wouldn’t want to make things to easy

Lv 27 now maxed out all archetype for my protagonist and Stroghl.

Lvl 34 with everyone having their archetypes maxed out. I also have 99 Hero’s Incenses to instantly max out the merchant archetype.

You one of the simple folk? Or did you watch 2 seconds and decide to flap your peen-cleaner? I'm talking about how items, and economic use of time makes less difficulty. But don't let me stop you with good advice.

And not everybody is pre-ordering, because that's only possible before the game is actually out. So what's your point?

@@optimusgrime8265 Man you didn't had to go that hard, It should be illegal to start a sentence with "You one of the Simple Folk ?" 😂

@@willofd.2227 When ppl troll you gotta troll right back

Carry tarukaja over to knight, knight melee is weak, but tank,buff,heal is really good

They also already showed some really powerful late game archtype like soul hacker which are magic based, seemed the logical choice

@@optimusgrime8265 The aoe group attacks are also super nice. Does just as much if not more than warriors with half the mp cost

@@optimusgrime8265 Love the mage synthesis skills as well. Made Hulkenburg a healer and got her to rank 10 by spamming the aoes. Alongside the mp regain I felt like I could've gone on forever

I think there are 3 more team members, the blonde girl looks magic, and the little bat guy seems agility, not sure about the final character they have been pretty coy about it, might be a fake party member who turns out evil like in persona 5. Just seemed like magic was the 'right' choice. Honestly any build will probably be fine.

Great minds think alike

lol Disgaea has 'infinite' grind I think the level cap is 9,999 in some of them 🤣

That's a very logical and viable strategy, putting all your eggs in one basket means they all break if you drop the basket, BUT carrying them one by one takes forever, there's always a trade off. Also I'm sure by the middle and end there will be plenty chances to grind quick for however many skill points you need. Either way, however you have fun is the most important, so do whatever that is! Metaphor is an awesome game.

Dunno if I believe that, but if so, good for you, keep it up.

​@@optimusgrime8265if they put a ton of points into luck maybe.

Yeah, i'm guessing there will be a trophy for maxing every archtype as well. Physical Synthesis is already pretty busted, but the mp cost is prohibitive, later on can gain turns with team skills and have enough mp to actually use them.

@@optimusgrime8265 Also this time around we're blessed with the mage who Infinitely regenerates mp therefore completely wiping out the expensive cost of Using all the mp heavy physical skills over and over again

Yessir!

Naw man, play whatever makes you happy, this is just a shortcut if you are struggling

You don't have to. If you want strength and magic it will work. Some enemies resist physical so magic skills for sure help. As for whether magic will be blocked I haven't gotten that far but it's possible later areas may have magic resistant enemies.

I defintely wrecked the dragon as Mage.

For sure! The "best" doesn't always = fun also. I'm certain by the true end, every stat will be max. This build is a shortcut if you find the game too challenging. I'm starting from scratch myself at launch, and considering an endurance/agility knight build for protag to do some control type stuff. That's the beauty is we will all have unique playthroughs.

To be fair a luck build could also work good with all the classes since it boosts item gain and crit rate. Which works with all classes, of course agi could also work since it boosts hit rate, evade and chance to escape from battle. But yeah pretty much all the games in this genre have favored you switching your class/demons/spirits to make yourself resistant to your enemies attacks while using their weaknesses against them over your stat build. Since often times you using hitting the enemies weakness would deal 2-4x more dmg while hitting their strength would see you deal 0-0.5x dmg. The games also usually include stat boosting items by end game so you can usually max all stats eventually.

I think any build will work but it sure made blasting the dragon easy to have magic.

Thanks mate, most of the friends I've made on youtube are Australian so I always throw stuff in, glad you like it

@@optimusgrime8265 Its rare to find a Yank that appreciates our humour 😜 you definitely have a new subscriber

@@Hurricayne92 trust! For sure m8 good to have you along!

Same, i don’t even remember what i picked as my dialogue during that scene 😂. I’m too many hours into the demo to restart just for this. Great info nonetheless!

It would just shift your playstyle although it makes me wonder how you dealt with certian things.

Yeah it’s the best overworld passive but idk if I can get past using the staff lol

@@BillyMadison-gn1zu What I've been doing is just switching to it in the overworld to cap off MP. If I get ambushed, that's a skill issue

By the end I assume most stats will max out, pluss missing a bit makes it like a d&d dice roll. Honestly any build will probably be fine

Lmao thanks man. Doin what I can to maintain some hope. I trust all is well in your neck o the woods?

@@optimusgrime8265 Going ok for the most part fella, work is horrid atm due to a shutdown going on...physically brutal on an old fat man like me.

@@feanornoldor4919 I feel ya on that one mate, I can barely get the battleship out of the harbor some days

Every basic archtype with a few exceptions has a magic advanced version like Magic Knight also by the end I would imagine you can max every stat. I think there are 3 more party members after Hulkenberg, so there shouldn't be any worries, but yeah fingers crossed just in case.

Nah it will probably be alright, the other party members are there to be better suited than you at the things you neglected for the main character. The worst possible thing you can do is probably stretch yourself too thin by trying to be a jack-of-all-trade, ending up worse than all other teammates at any dedicated build.

It's only going to bite you against enemies that resist or null magic. Some of the enemies started resisting the physical attacks in the demo.

Thank you so much for taking the time to comment, glad to help any time.

Welp tbh anything will work with stats, for me broken is Lick/agi/ sometimes strength build,l to crit all the way with warrior aoe. +Prepariatoon for Samurai/assassin archetype

Endgame always almighty stronk, so magic

You can build it on anything but I've learned Atlus generally wants you to pick the damage type you want.