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The closest access point is the sturgeon river access point. It is possible to hike or paddle in and out in a day. I know people have done it. However it would be one hell of a day lol. Personally I would plan to spend at least one night camping at a site or sleeping in your car. Considering it takes multiple hours to drive in the logging road that takes you to the sturgeon. Hope that helps you out! Let me know if you have any other questions

Thanks! I’m glad you liked it! That’s interesting, must be fairly recent that they changed the route because we climbed it this summer. I didn’t actually use the ladder on the way up. There was a series of rock ledges to the left of the ladder that seemed less sketchy and got me up pretty easily. Sugar lake is definitely worth a look, crystal clear water, a couple epic sites and some sunken cedar boats to check out. Sometimes it pays to take the road less travelled!

@@ryansroutes1805 That would also explain why the new route sucked as I was there in September, definitely needs some more foot traffic to wear in the new route.

@@prayfornathannatureshow it must have been changed sometime in July/ August because we’re there about the first of July.

@@adamhazell678 I’ve never had any issues with parking at these places. Usually there’s plenty of places to park. Just be considerate of others that might be using the put in or neighbors to the put in and you shouldn’t have a problem.

lol which lake? Mud lake or Crotch lake?

Thanks for pointing that out. I guess I didn’t copy the right link. Should be fixed in the description for you now but. fernleighlodge.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Paddle-Guide003.pdf

It was great to meet you too! I guess that means you made it out alright. We were thinking of you two as we did the chain of ponds from Red Boat to Fishog. They must have been tough on the paddle boards! You guys are champs!

I owned a swift pack 13’ -6” for a few years. It was a nice boat to paddle and carry but it was very fragile feeling and I don’t think the new ones are much better. If you can get a decent deal on them, like when swift sells off their rentals in the winter it’s not a bad buy. Although I think it’s deff worth taking a look at langfords and we no nahs as well as they both make really nice boats!

Thanks! That’s exactly the kind of experiences with langfords I was hoping to hear about. As far as I understand our boat is already about the same age as your parents canoe. In great shape though so we’re hoping to have it for a long time!

Thanks! We’re pretty happy with her!

Thanks! We’re happy to welcome her to the family!

lol I’ve never experienced it first hand since all the tandem canoeists I paddle with seem to get along alright. Maybe I should be more scared?

I agree! I’ve always liked what I’ve heard about Langfords but never actually paddled one until last night.

We took it for a quick paddle last night and it performed very well! A little unstable feeling when you first climb in but in my experience that means more speed and maneuverability once you learn to trust the boats secondary stability. I might put together a review video on it once I have time to rig it for my cameras. My quick thoughts are that it’s probably faster than a typical prospector and likely just as versatile.

Thank you so much! I really appreciate comments like this, they let me know I’m doing something good! I’m just trying to give people reasonable trip ideas and other bits of advice along the way to get them out there loving nature!

They weren’t overly secure at the time we did it. Pretty narrow and slippery feeling but that’s early spring for you. It might be better in the summer or fall when the water is at a lower level. This trail is a pretty rough/ fairly unmaintained trail so you won’t find any man made bridges or walkways to get you through the rough/ wet sections. Hope that helps you out! Let me know if you have any other questions.

I don’t know if it’s a worldwide problem or just a North American thing but they’re everywhere! Lol. The best is when you see a bag of dog poo hanging from a tree like a Christmas ornament. We just like seeing wilderness that’s fairly untouched other than the pathways through it so we do our part to clean it up a bit. Thanks! I’m glad you like it!

Temagami is definitely a beautiful place! If you haven’t been before, you should go.

Sounds like an interesting setup. I’ve never seen somebody move the seat that far in a solo. Sounds almost like paddling a tandem backwards.

@@ryansroutes1805 From the center line of the canoe to the center of the seat is 3 feet. It is 4 feet from the seat to the stern. Just that far back has allowed for the use of the traditonal J-stroke to keep the boat traveling in a straight line. Requires camping gear in the bow for balance. When going into a stong wind, I woud kneel just behind the portage bar to avoid getting blown around.

Yah it sounds like it would be interesting to paddle without that gear weight. Especially into some diagonal headwinds lol. Although there’s always a rock on shore when needed. I used to have to add weight to the bow of my jon boat whenever I was driving it solo or else it would get super sketchy.

It was a very nice site other than the garbage left there by previous campers. As well as all the poo and toilet paper at the top of the big hill. Seemed like somebody didn’t like using the thunderbox for some reason lol. Was the wind kinder to you than it was to us?

@@ryansroutes1805 I did pick up some trash, not much by any means. Was fairly clean. Didnt see any poops either, but I always use the woods myself - 50 yards in minimum and bury them. The only thing that bothered me was the thunder box so close to main camp, the monstrosity of a firepit, and the amount of trees people had clear cut essentially for wood. Definitely a site thats had a number done on her, but the view and access are hard to come by

@@TheNorthwestWind yah as far as the firewood goes it seemed pretty cleared out. It’s probably because of the two sites being back to back.

@@ryansroutes1805 Agree and its a prominent spot a good chunk up the lake

@TheNorthwestWind for sure!

Thanks!

Thanks I’m glad you liked it. It was a fun trip!

lol you too! Thanks a lot!

Thanks I’m glad you like it! I’ve looked at that method before but decided to go this route out of ease. I researched it a bit a couple years ago when the seam tape started failing on the tarp for my hammock. I’d probably still use the caulking method for that repair but I haven’t gotten around to it. How did it work out for flexibility? Do you think it would work good for seam repair?

@@abida.sharmin92 I had cell reception at the top of Ishpatina ridge. No cell reception other than that. It’s a fairly remote area.

@@ryansroutes1805 thank you so much for the quick response!

@@abida.sharmin92 no problem at all! Let me know if you have any other questions.

You’re welcome! This one is definitely a bucket list trip. Even if you can just do the maple mountain hike and the waterfalls section that I’ll show more of in part 2. I grew up in Muskoka as well, still living there to this day.

@@Patrick-uu5xg From what I hear hell is almost full. Soon he’s going to ramp up manufacturing for heaven again.

@@mokotramp those are the main reason I love this tarp rigging. A rope ridge line helps in strong winds but for a quick deployment and ease of use, bungees work every time.

@@ryansroutes1805 Also, on the tie outs I use enough cord so I can double it up if the wind gets stronger, stops the cord over stretching as I'm only using 5mm.

@@mokotramp I do the same whenever possible. I also keep a couple extra lengths attached to the tarp so that I can had to the length of other tie outs if needed.

@@ryansroutes1805 Who needs fancy knots and 550 when you have bungee and biners? 🤣

@@mokotramp exactly! When it starts pouring I just want something up quick and easy to keep me dry!

Thanks I’m glad you liked it! I agree and I’m pretty sure I mentioned the winds being surprisingly bad through sucker gut and Tupper in the full trip video I posted recently. I couldn’t understand how the winds were just as bad on those tiny lakes lol. I’m glad I could inspire you. That’s a big part of why I started the channel, just to get people out there as well as give them the info to do it. I’ll be sure to check your video out! Thanks again!

@@ryansroutes1805I just viewed your longer video with Maple Mountain. Yes, you did mention the winds in the narrow chain of lakes leading to Tupper. Maybe the terrain acts like a wind tunnel.

Thanks for letting me know. I was always under the impression that Maple Mountain was long considered the highest point. Until more modern surveying proved it to be Ishpatina Ridge.

Yes “ charged through the nose” might have been a bit of an exaggeration. Although it can still be hard to justify when there’s plenty of places offering the same amenities for free.

I’ve had many similar situations to that. Although I usually just shake my head and mutter “ idiot” lol. I’m glad I could bring back some good memories for you. It’s a very beautiful area!

Yes that’s more what I was referring to. There were far more people that didn’t slow down when passing us than people that did. Not a big deal in the big open water but when paddling the narrow sections it creates a reverberating wake that’s rather annoying.

@@BareBonesCamping Thanks! I’m glad you liked it!

Thanks! Other than the first day on lake Temagami that’s pretty true. We did encounter a few other paddlers on our way up but it wasn’t crowded by any means. We had our choice of campsites every night.

Thanks I’m glad you liked it! The wind doesn’t cal down much for part two lol. I think the only part of the trip where we didn’t have head winds was heading upstream on the lady Evelyn River. Those views of maple mountain definitely made it worth the fight though!

I mentioned Chiniguchi in the video which is part of the Temagami cluster. At the time of making it I hadn’t paddled lake Temagami itself so I didn’t want to voice an opinion on it. We recently did an 11 day trip on lake Temagami,Diamond lake, up to Maple Mountain and back down through Obabika ( actually trying to finish up part 1 of that video up today lol). After having done that loop it would definitely make my list now!

It’s definitely a great spot for a solo trip. Thanks I’m glad you liked it!

@@kobishapero3180 I honestly can’t recall, it was a few years ago now. I wish I had recorded the water levels in these older videos and put it in the description. Sorry I can’t be of more help.

I did a little bit on the third day I believe. I’m pretty sure pike and pickerel weren’t open until that day. My buddy Luke landed a nice pike but I wasn’t there to film it. I’m sure the fishing is good if you take the time. Hope you have fun on your trip! It’s a beautiful place!

Thanks! I’m glad you liked it! The views are spectacular in that area! Sorry for the late reply, I just got home from an 11 day canoe trip in Temagami.

We camped somewhere around winakaching bay the first night on the south side of this island( there’s tons of sites around there). The second night we camped just a bit north east of Hinks island I believe. Third night was spent in mill lake along the south west side although there was a much nicer site that I discovered while fishing. On one of the most southern large island in the lake. Our last night we camped on the same site as the first night but there was an epic site somewhere along the north side of the island before you would get to turning island. I can’t remember exactly where that was but it would be hard to miss, big open rock hill. I believe I had some shots of the site I’m referring to in my video. There are a fair amount of sites along the north side of the island but definitely not as abundant as the south. Hopefully that helps you out!

@@ryansroutes1805 thx for the great help

@@chinslip1 no problem! Happy to help!

Thanks! I’m sure you’ll love it. All the sites in this area were epic. Probably the best park I’ve ever paddled for great campsites. Have you ever been there before?

Nope, first time. I just retired this year and bought a solo canoe to seek some solitude.

@@stephenrudd6497 well I hope you find it! Enjoy your time.

Thanks I’m glad you like it! It’s easy to get great footage when you’re in beautiful places!

For sure, it works great! I’ve taken it to -8 Celsius and made it through the night with only mild discomfort. An actual underquilt will save some weight and function better for sure. Although I’m sure most of us that have been camping for a few years have a spare bag laying around to make one. Easily saving hundreds of dollars! This will also still function as normal sleeping bag if needed.

Thanks! I’m glad you liked it! Have you been to Noganosh before?

@@ryansroutes1805 no not yet. But it’s on my top 5 to get to. Great video

@@cs6032 Thanks again! Hope you get a chance to check it out soon!

Thanks! I’m glad you liked it!

No problem, happy to help! Have fun on your adventures!

@@ryansroutes1805 Thank you

I’m glad I could bring back some memories for you. Hopefully fond ones lol! The weather was unusually warm when we ran it despite it being overcast the entire trip and we had dry suits on. So not as brave as you might think lol.