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@@tatabudhi1681 depends on the runner. I would say yes, but unlike many supershoes, that might be the high end of of its wheelhouse.

@@lexington476 I’ve mentioned that a couple of times on this channel. If you’re going to get in the Pain Train, then Choo Choo, M*****F***er! #CCMF

@@thecaptainchas2820 yeah I'm a bad subscriber, I don't watch all your videos 😊.

@@lexington476 no worries! I use the acronym because I don’t need to be a schoolteacher out there dropping F-bombs!

@@thecaptainchas2820 😀 watch your language 😄😃😀. Love your content 🤘.

@@TheBsheep I try to save the plated shoes for key road sessions or races. I figure the track is giving me enough help as it is, so I try and keep the legs strong by using traditional flats. It may be all in my head, but I also don’t want to feel like I’m useless without a super trainer or super racer. 🤷‍♂️

@@thecaptainchas2820 Ok I can understand that. I think I may adopt that philosophy as well. I don't think it's all in your head..plated shoes can really spoil you in a way. I don't use mine too much but I'm starting to use them a little more than I would like as of recent. Thanks for the tip!

@@thecaptainchas2820 Hey Chas, just curious, do you run in any circles with another running RUclipsr named Yowana? He's from the Charlotte area if I'm not mistaken and he has a pretty entertaining channel too!

@@TheBsheep I’ve met him at a few races. He’s on the opposite side of the city from me, so we don’t ever run in to each other except on certain races. Yeah he puts out a lot of content and a lot of mileage!

@@thecaptainchas2820 Ok good stuff man! Charlotte has all the talent!! lol

@@PatrickStar-km1dm UamGlsob is the brand name. I got them off Amazon. www.amazon.com/stores/UamGlsob/page/B1DBF6B3-7C32-4107-B850-D0F36714C911?ref_=ast_bln&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto

@@urgonnaluvit thank you!

@@stephenNicholas-i9k it is more stable than the Edge Paris. There is definitely a lot of cushion in the heel, and it responds better the more force you put into the footstrike. I imagine that would be the case with mid pack runners as well. At first, the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 might feel firmer than the Endorphin Speed 3, but make no mistake; it has a much more energetic response. I do think it would be an upgrade.

@@thecaptainchas2820 Thanks for the quick reply. So okay if you heel strike and pronate a bit? Comparison - sorry with Saucony Pro 3, similar stability? How's the stability of Nike Alphafly 3 vs Puma Elite v3? Would Puma be better for midpackers at slower paces vs Edge paris and alphafly 3? Thanks

@@stephenNicholas-i9k definitely okay if you heel strike. I wouldn’t worry about the pronation either. I overpronate quite a bit. The foam is a bit more stable than Zoom X in the Nike racing shoes, and the ground contact base is wider (thus more stable) than the Metaspeed shoes. The AlphaFly would be good for people of all paces I thing, but it won’t be the most stable, except in the forefoot with those wide air pods. The ASICS Metaspeed shoes really lend themselves better to faster running and will be less stable at slower paces. So yeah, I think the Puma will be more accessible for midpackers and still provide a very propulsive feeling.

@@NIKEFOOTBALLER6 Well, that’s the big question! Those are the two I’m trying to decide between. Right now, I’m leaning toward the Edge Paris. It’s just hard to beat at any distance up to half marathon (or even marathon for some). In next week’s video, I’ll be using it for a 10k time trial.

@@jorgecastrejon1611 I’m glad you enjoy it. I think 361° is trying to increase their market visibility in the US. I’d be very interested to see how they continue to leverage that Primo midsole compound.

@@PatrickStar-km1dm way to go! Yeah, I have a love/hate relationship with the 10k!

I did a 5k threshold run to gage my pace earlier in the week and ran a comfortable hard 7:20 pace in zone 4. This race I conservatively went out 7:25 a mile and still hit zone 5 a half mile in lol. I stayed above 190 for the majority of the race and hit a new max of 198 at the sprint finish. I still averaged 7:21 per mile for the whole 10k. My base isn't developed yet but I feel like I unlocked something mentally on that run. Can't wait to get back to training.

@@TheBsheep I’ve heard of them, yes, but I’ve never tried them. Brand new company from what I can tell. They still have only a couple of models. I’ve heard good things too, but mainly from influencers I’ve seen on RUclips or Instagram. The Eleos is legit! The midsole is surprisingly responsive for what otherwise would look like a mid-tier daily trainer.

@@thecaptainchas2820Ok, yea I haven’t heard much about them either, I was curious on have you tried them Im certainly looking for something new to try so I will most definitely try the 361 Eleos! I trust your word, plus it’s also at a really good price for what you’re getting!

@@jorgecastrejon1611 Thanks for watching!

@@insomniaforever6444 Thanks for giving it a view!

@@rmsrmsrmsrms duly noted. Will try harder in the future!

@@i.p2088 What’s better than a new pair of running shoes? Answer: Three new pairs of running shoes!

@@TheBsheep that’s a good question. I don’t have the Cielo Road. I tried it on in a store alongside the Topo Cyclone 2 a year ago and went with the Cyclone. I know Alex Filitti from Meta Endurance compares the Cielo Road to the Adios 8, but the guys from BITR think it’s more StreakFly-ish. I bet there would be a lot of overlap between it and the Hyperion 2.

@@thecaptainchas2820 I see, good point and great content!

@@RobertBruno yes, I would definitely consider it for a half. Probably over the SC Elite v4, depending on your preferences for cushion and/or energy return.

@@Nuera77 I grew up in St. Louis County, but this was actually my first time running there! It’s kind of a gem. I’d rather run there than Forest Park.

@@andress4876 no need to steal it. It’s free for everyone!

@@justoutlaw6423 it’s more stable than most other racing shoes, but as a category, racing shoes are not that stable. The plate and the wide heel base help though. It’s certainly more stable than any of the shoes I compared it with in the shoe-off section.

@@justoutlaw6423 for what it’s worth, I overpronate quite a bit too.

@@thecaptainchas2820 Thanks.

@@thecaptainchas2820 I value your opinion :). I'm not goiong to be raing a mrathin anytime soon but plan to do 5k to half marathon races and looking for a somewhat stable (as much as a raceing shoe can be) option for those distances. Judging by the rewies online Puma DNE3 and BN Pacer 2 could be it. Maybe Endo Pro 4? Any suggestions?

@@justoutlaw6423 I haven’t run in the Endorphin Pro 4 yet, but I have tried it on in the store. I can say that the Speed 4 is *slightly* more stable than the Speed 3 because of the shape of the rear foot, and the same might be true of the Pro 4 and Pro 3, but that would only be conjecture. The Pro 3 is not the most stable shoe. It’s more stable than a Vaporfly, but it’s tough to have 39mm of bouncy PEBA foam in the heel and make it stable, even with a carbon fiber plate. The NB SC Elite v4 will be more stable, but like I said in the shoe talk, that’s not a shoe I’m interested in if I have the SC Pacer v2.

@@jesusgonzalez-zp1fr Yeah, that’s too bad. And they fit fairly snug. Sorry, man.

I usually buy a 14 or 13 wide due to my wide foot. I just bought these in a 13 regular, as I found they run big. The 13 regular had a wider toe box than my 13 Wide new balances, and much more comfortable. IMO, they're already wide. Can't wait to go for my first long run in them

@@mrhine83 thanks I really like how they look

@@babyyoda134 yeah I agree. I’m finding the Edge Paris to be at the very top for everything except maybe the marathon. I never had the Vaporfly 2, but I still have a couple pairs of Vaporfly 1 with some life in them, and they still hold up!

@@fecardona nah. It was still a road shoe surface I think. I wouldn’t use a dedicated trail shoe unless it was technical single-track (it wasn’t) and/or was very wet and sloppy.

@@13lars can you clarify the question please?

@@thecaptainchas2820 maybe its the angle 🙃

@@13lars I don’t run with an extended selfie-stick, and I’m sure the fisheye lens on the GoPro isn’t very flattering. I wouldn’t say my form is aesthetically pleasing, but it’s probably a lot more normal than it looks on these videos. I’m a forefoot/midfoot striker with 180-190 spm cadence (higher during short races and fast reps) with a slight anterior lean, probably due to my chronically tight hip flexors.

@@jackjill2010 Everyone loves some good #taptheplate for your ASMR!

@@13lars I compare them directly at 10:04. Very similar, at least in purpose.

@@jorgecastrejon1611 thanks for watching!

@@i.p2088 I was underwhelmed by the feeling of the SC Elite v4 when I tried it in the store a few months ago. So I waited patiently for this one. It has a more race-like feel.

@@jay1572 absolutely. This is a very versatile shoe. You can pick up the pace if you want or just cruise. And I’ve taken it on several 20-mile runs since this review dropped, and the cushion & response hold up well for the long haul.

@@JW-ri1mb I ran in the Invincible 1, not the Invincible 2 or 3. For my purposes, I’d much rather run in the Eleos. It can do more. It feels comfortable at any pace and distance. In fact, I just did a hilly 19 miles in them this morning at a very easy aerobic pace. The Invincibles were fun for me, but more of a recovery shoe or a squishy shoe for easy base days. If you really want that squishy cushion, I don’t know that the Eleos will give you all of it. But the cushion is bouncy and comfortable.

@@wonkydonkey7899 probably so.

@@PatrickStar-km1dm he’s been putting the work in! He ran his first sub-6 with a 5:57 about four weeks ago and then just here took another 4 seconds off. When they do their next benchmark, I’m going to try and push him to 5:50.

@@thecaptainchas2820 Love to see it! That's awesome!

@@TheBsheep The Takumi Sen is one of the shoes you will say against it in this week’s upcoming review/shoe-off! I’m inclined to agree with you.

@@McLeod573 Thanks! And good luck with your PR as well!

@@McLeod573 Thanks! Yes. Very hot!

@@13lars negative. The Cielo X 1 is the fastest shoe in that group by far. It actually is a racer. The Prime X can be fast, but it gets mushy at higher efforts.

@@insomniaforever6444 Thanks! Of nothing else, I’ll get some good, focused training!

@@GrayGhostF3 Thanks! Good to see you out there!

@@tono1665 Thanks! For some, yes, it is a viable marathon shoe. Two of the three female US marathoners going to the Paris Olympics will be using this shoe (O’Keefe and Lindwurm). And they used it for the trials in February. Others might find it a little aggressive for the marathon distance.

@@colindittmer. I guess that does limit the customizability. Having run it for a couple of races and a few workouts now though, I can’t say I’ve thought about it.

@@JohnBirtchetSharpe There definitely is an appeal to well directed events and events with history. It’s not always about PRs and fast times!

@@jackjill2010 Thanks!