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While I totally understand your position, if you have followed the channel, you'll be aware that my primary interests, and reviewing endeavors, lie in the hyper-audio realm. See my current system at www.theaudioanalyst.com/reference-system/ For comparison, my rig comes in at just under the one million dollar mark... I DO cover over-achieving gear at lower price points, but my interests lie in pushing the limits musical reproduction in the home... Thanks.

Honestly, save for the NADAC C and D, which I've commented on in E185: Master Fidelity's NADAC C Clock & NADAC D DAC (ruclips.net/video/i_IIg1poJXg/видео.html), nothing from dCS, MSB, or anyone else in this price range has impressed me anywhere as much... Sorry...

Enjoy, and be sure to share your impressions with us here once you have formulated them!

Thanks! I have written to Ideon and opened the question of a personal audition of both the Ideon Σigma Wave USB audio isolator and the Alpha Wave LAN optimizer. We shall have to see what they say... 😉

I picked up my Sigma Wave after it returned from a factory update at no cost to me. Since I bought it as a demo(with a nice discount), I didn't bother to audition. It's connected to a Holo-Audio Red and even though the break-in period is supposedly two months, it kicks butt! Greg, could you request Ideon's USB cables for audition? Howard.

Thanks, Henry. Yes, I'm getting in Thursday night, but am booked solid throughout the weekend. I am doing one of my after-hours curated LP sessions Saturday @ 8:00 PM in the Potomac room! Be there or be square! 🤣😉😇

Hey, buddy! It TRULY is a serious step forward, not just a slight advance. And, I'll let Stella know her walk-ons are appreciated! 🤣😉

To be fair, I'm unwilling to offer an absolute (sorry, no pun intended) assessment until I hear the NADAC C and D here... I will say, at this point, that the NADAC system is - overall - the most relevantly resolving and engaging sounding digital system I've heard anywhere OTHER than in my own rig... But again, that is as much as I can say with any certainty...

Why not what?

I followed Greg's recommendation on Ideon and I, also, have no regrets(just picked up the Sigma Wave USB Isolator).

Is it better than audiquest silver cables

@@GordonPyzik You are joking, right?

Thanks for your comments and questions. First, as to your query about "bang for the buck," again, as I state in the episode, "value" is a subjective thing, overall. I cannot afford these cables, so...I cannot advocate that they are a "value" to me... However, as I said answering a question to last week's episode, these cables are so much better, in every attribute I can think of, that it is beyond fair to compare them to anything else in my five decades of experience, and more than thirty-five years of chronicling my experiences in print or on camera.

I'm sorry, but, as I don't use any Apple products, I've no way of knowing... I can't imagine that it represents any problem or concerning issue, however... When you match volumes, does it sound better?

Thank you for watching and taking the time to write. And while I'm perfectly fine with your inability to grasp what this level of product is capable of, please don't pretend you have any understanding of it, or what it may actually achieve.

@@theaudioanalyst I am not delusional about sound, if an amp or speaker in your opinion greatly improves by cables costing this much, then something seriously must be wrong somewhere in you system, there are really only two things that radially change a system sound and that is speakers and rooms, not a mega costly pair of cables. And that is my opinion.

​@@gryphongryph You are certainly welcome to your opinions. But I must point out that given your statements, and how completely naive they are, I'm willing to wager that I have heard _vastly_ more systems, setups, rooms, and cables, over the past five decades, than you have. Further, I will happily admit that I have experienced amazing-sounding $500 systems, and horrible-sounding ones costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. What I am trying to point out is that I clearly understand that a higher price alone does not guarantee higher performance. I do NOT see price alone as the arbiter of quality. We all have heard horrendously expensive products that sound like crap! By that same token, the finest-sounding gear you are going to experience is NOT cheap. I hope that would be an obvious observation to any rational listener... Again, while I have no problem with your personal beliefs, they have made it clear that you have very little, if any, experience with, or understanding of, the capabilities of such products. Thanks again for watching. But please, don't bother trying to attempt to defend your uninformed and obviously limited position any further here. Such postings add nothing to the presentation or what I'm doing here with the channel.

@@theaudioanalyst I can understand difference in sound in any hifi component, but cable this expensive do not make any sense, it maybe make 1 to 5% difference in a very good system , but no cable should cost this much from a performance point of view, I don’t car if you have money to burn, it just doesn’t make sense performance vise. I will politely unsubscribe from this channel.

@@gryphongryph Again, I have no issues with your choices, but to pretend that you have any real comprehension of such matters is not rational. By your own admission, your objections are _solely_ based on price, _NOT_ any empirical experience. No one is suggesting that you, or _anyone_ for that matter, need to use cables this costly. Nor am I _defending_ their extreme expense. But your statement that something may make a 1 to 5% difference is telling! At the level of performance I experience with my reference system, I would hope that you'd realize that a 5% increase of performance is _enormous_ ! And more importantly, that such a transparent and resolving system is so readily able to reveal _every_ minute and nuanced change... Futher, I would think unsubscribing here over your objection to, and failure to understand the performance of, such products might be a rather strong and unnecessary reaction. While I hope you choose to continue to follow the channel, I also respect your choice to leave it you feel it necessary. Thanks again, either way.

Well, if you watched the entire presentation, you would know that I cannot defend the pricing of these products. I clearly state as much starting at ruclips.net/video/Scodzj2bDI0/видео.html And, just in case you are new to the channel, my reference system - with my own cable loom - comes in at _just_ under that one million dollar figure you've chosen to suggest.

Thanks for taking the time to watch, and to write! 😉

Really! In this entire presentation _that_ is what you felt you should single out with your comments... 🤔

Can't add to what isn't there, had a person buying interconnect cables from maplin 😂 for a well known recording studio, only place that was open Friday night

How is that confusing... That fact that it has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about is the only thing that should be confusing... In the case of the LP, the source, in this case, the final LP pressing being played back on our turntable, is what it is, regardless of what cables - or whatever other components and electronics for that matter - were used to master, cut, and press it. NOTHING after it is stamped and on your turntable can improve upon its best possible sound… But what you don’t understand is that it is the process of extracting everything that is cut into that LP that makes the difference. Consider birdwatching a Robin in a tree in your backyard with DIFFERENT binoculars, an analogy to playing back the same LP with different cabling - or any component for that matter. Watching that bird using a pair of $40 TASCO 7x35 binoculars will allow you to readily see more than your bare eyes, and to see that it IS a Robin, revealing much of its individual detail, like its individual characteristics and plumage features… Moving to a set of $250 Bushnell Marine 7x50 Illumin Compass Binoculars, a very common high-quality set of birding binoculars, with considerably more attention paid to the quality of the glass and grinding of the lenses, tighter tolerances in assembly and interaction, and with the use of chemical coating on the lenses to reduce glare and lower the light lost through transmission, will allow you to see more relevant differences in EVERYTHING about that very same Robin, offering both a brighter and sharper image, with a better ability to express a wider, more faithful range of color hues and differences in patterning, and more clearly exposing bill, eye, and head features, etc. Yet, switching to a $10,000 pair of Zeiss 20x60 binoculars, which maximize EVERY CONSIDERATION in the construction of a fine set of optical binoculars will advance all those characteristics further yet… Not only will they offer greater magnification, but they also offer an enhanced ability to more clearly render color variation, feather patterns, and every possible detail about the Robin under examination. While the Robbin (our LP) NEVER changed, our ability to have a clearer, more faithful representation of it CAN be shown to be improved by changing the quality of the binoculars (cables) used to view (listen to) it. You really shouldn’t speak out on matters of which you have no understanding…

@theaudioanalyst how about binoculars, being used on a very foggy day ? Can't add what you can't see...

@@LM42 Are you _really_ that stupid? Your inference has absolutely NO bearing on the matter... The record IS what it IS. The only fog that exists is in your thinking...

@theaudioanalyst did i touch a raw nerve ? Bet in blind testing you could not tell the difference, as for being stupid, carry on, and you won't have to prove any more that you are, if you want an opinion, I will give you one, sit down and shut up

This is surely a rhetorical question...

LOL, of course you have! And of course anyone can do it...in their kitchen, right! What a moronic, nonsensical claim... So, what lab was this done in, where is it located, how did YOU have the ability to use that lab, and how much did the access cost? Be careful here, this Can be checked out. And more importantly, since the Master Crown cables are the only models that they have made claim to be monocrystal, and since they are _barely_ in production as of this writing, WHERE did you get one? What model was it? How did you acquire it, and at what cost? Be careful here, this CAN be checked out. The likelihood that you have actually done this is SO PREPOSTEROUS that I dare you to even try to defend your statements...

@@theaudioanalyst I am dead serious, this is an ISO certified lab,I can contact you privately and pass you all this. It is definitely not moronic and nonsensical!!!!

@@mickgrc Sorry, that is not how it works. You've made these preposterous claims HERE, so put up or shut up. Post this "evidence" here to substantiate your otherwise baseless claim, or we will _all_ know just how bogus your statement is.

@@theaudioanalyst I just sent you email on your site.

​@@mickgrc Ok, so as I said, this is _not_ how this will work. You cannot make PUBLIC accusations, then slink off behind the scenes to try to support your insulting and possibly slanderous accusations... ALL - below is the email that @mickgrc (email address - michael758@gmail.com) sent me to at 6:28 PM last night, October 8th), sent to defend his accusations... By the way, the REAL ISSUE is revealed about two thirds of the way through his response. Guess what? He makes his own "silver wires" that, of course, are "...actually much better than Siltech/CrystalCable." What a joke... Again, I must point out that he completely ignores the reality that the first Monocrystal Cables from Siltech, the Master Crown cables, have JUST BARELY started their production runs and are beginning to ship. To that end, he cannot substantiate how he acquired one, let alone that he has in fact even done so. Nor does he provide ANY real info that supports his accusations against Siltech. I have forwarded this info on to Edwin Rynveld and the Siltech team for comment... Hello Greg, This is Michael, the person who commented on the 'monocrystal' Siltech's real grain structure. I happen to actually own a fully equipped and certified metallurgical laboratory, part of a stock market listed industrial business. Being an avid highender I have bought Siltechs and CrystalCables for my system and I could not hold myself.I had to put them under a microscope, as when I researched the ways to produce monocrystal silver I realised that this was probably not the case with these cables. We are talking extremely low production rates for a continuous cast wire, some few centimeters per hour, and other big difficulties. So I sent some pieces of them to the lab and had a couple of world class metallurgists look at the results. Not that it was really needed. It was obvious. this is DEFINITELY not a monocrystal conductor. And dont get me wrong: it sounds wonderful! So, I have known this for some time, and, OK, I respect their work and their products, but this is going a bit too far, all these stories and theories around monocrystal etc. I am being very frank, This time watching this video on your excellent channel I could not hold myself. So, all data, pics, signed reports if you like, by world-class metallurgists are available. _HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE_ I can also send you my silver wires, developed in the last couple of years as a hobby-turned-startup, actually much better than Siltech/CrystalCable. But this is another story. In case you want more info be sure that I am a cool and straight person and contact me. It would be an honour to have a chat on the phone. Congratulations again for your site, All the best, Michael S. PS I am not writing my full surname as I have met Erwyn as an admirer in the past and I really do not want to create a mess out of this. Do ANY of you believe this nonsense?

LOL... If you honestly are able to accept that basic 18 gauge, tough-pitch copper, bare, stranded wire, “lamp cord” as you correctly label it, sounds _anything_ like even the least expensive cables from any established audio cable company, then one of three realities would seem to be at play. First, you’ve been utterly brainwashed into ignoring your own empirical experience and have chosen rather to buy into the whole “all cables sound the same” conspiracy, which is just as foolish to believe in as the “Flat Earth” ignorance. Second, perhaps you have not yet acquired the listening acuity to recognize the often-significant distinctions between cables of differing constructions. Or finally, there is the possibility that your system’s synergy doesn't offer the resolution necessary to reveal such demonstrable and nuanced differences.

@@theaudioanalyst lots of words, flowery words, verbiage,but no data nor measurements...not a shred..now thats FLAT EARTH.

@@edwardbit8225 What data and measurements would you need to see? If you have some information that can help us make better choices, please share it.

@@edwardbit8225 LOL, are you really this shallow and vacuous? Do you even understand what tough-pitch copper is and what it means? Yeah, I thought as much. PLEASE just go waste your time somewhere like Audioholic's, where reality is spurned for the sake of dogma...like your own!

Um, I'm sorry, but this seems to be a fairly pointless question... I would start with whatever you have lying around... Then, if you care to, you can try other cables. But, these items are bargain basement priced to begin with, so...just use what you have available to get started...

Um, yes, _seriously_ ! To turn your expletive phrase back on you, for “Christ's sake,” do some research on the subject matter like Single Crystal, or Mono Crystal metals ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_crystal ) and microcracks in metal lattice structures ( www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/microcracks ). Both are completely real and valid considerations in the physics of electronic current conductivity. If you bothered to try to understand before you threw your little fit you wouldn't be stammering and saying such stupid things and exposing yourself to be so completely uninformed and ignorant of the matters you _think_ you understand, yet actually have no business commenting on.

This is legitimate high-end metallurgy and has direct benefits regarding conductivity and other attributes that affect sonics.

@@theaudioanalyst You can't let these clowns get to you. There's one thing you have to realize. The cable debate has never been about cables. Its about emotions. When you evaluate something, you just want the truth. The cable deniers don't WANT the cables to make a difference. You can't compete with that. If they really wanted the truth, they could have settled the matter decades ago. It doesn't matter how good your argument is, or what facts you bring to the discussion. They simply won't consider it. There's nothing with being skeptical. We all are in the beginning. If you buy expensive cables, or anything else for that matter, without verifying to see if there's a difference worth paying for, then you're an idiot. I'm fortune enough to have a nice audio system that most people would consider expensive, including the cables. If someone new to high end audio saw my system and went out and bought the exact same thing, they would be a fool, and I don't have to explain why. If you look at the other posts, one of them called you a coward in the name of science. I asked him to reference a single test or evaluation where the scientific method was applied on any piece of audio equipment ever made, not just cables. Lets see what he comes up with.

@@theaudioanalystBravo!

What you seem to have misunderstood is that there are no _issues_ that require settling...

@@theaudioanalyst are you serious? Where are the tests? sinad,noise FR etc? If this cable is so good it will show it in tests, it has to..

@@theaudioanalyst COWARD.

@@edwardbit8225 First of all, I don't have any reason to send the cables to anyone, for any reason. I don't make or own them. And to be honest, I couldn't care less... But, LOL... to drop down to your level, I'll call you a moron! 🤣😉😇 See, I can waste time calling people names too. Does it prove anything? Of course not... Keep up your idiotic rants and your posts will be removed... If you aren't interested in what is being shared here at this channel, just move along. This clearly isn't a channel for you....

Coward? Lets see what you are. Can you reference 1 video done by ASR where he actually used real science in his evaluation, not junk science? Remember, science is his middle name. If you can't find any science on ASR's channel (And you won't be able to because I already called him out on that, and proved it. So, he deletes all of my posts the second he sees them.), can you reference any type of test or evaluation, done by a credible source, that used real science, not junk science, on any piece of audio equipment ever made? Not just cables. Anything. I already know what your response is going to be. You have 3 options, but I'm willing to bet that you're the coward, and will only consider 2 of the 3. 1. You'll stop posting and quietly go away. 2. You'll talk in circles, say nothing, and pretend you don't understand. 3. Admit that you can't reference a single test where the scientific method was actually used and documented on any piece of audio equipment ever made. You'll never have the courage to go with option 3.

Thank you for your kind words...and for both following the channel, and taking the time to write! 😊

you broke in a power cable? God this shit is so cringy.

Power cords make no difference to the performance of audio equipment. There is also no such thing as "break in" of cables. There is no mechanism by which such a thing could occur and measurements would show identical conductivity and insulation behavior. Even if there was some miniscule change in the power cord over time, this would not change the sound. The audio signal does not pass through the power cord. Any difference you perceive is all in your imagination.

You know that they make cheaper cables. You must be aware there are 5 million dollar cars?

While I can understand your incredulity at such pricing, surely you aren’t suggesting that there is anything wrong with pursuing excellence, regardless of what it may cost. The U.S. Space program that resulted in the moon landing in 1969 came at an enormous cost. From 1960 to 1973, the US federal government invested $25.8 billion into Project Apollo, which is about $320 billion in 2024 dollars. That comes out to something like $1,750 per person in the US at the time! But look at all the direct benefits that have come from it over the past decades. Inventions developed for space have often been adapted for, or spawned the creation of new products or processed used on Earth, and have improved many aspects of life, including health, transportation, public safety, and consumer products. Now, I’m not suggesting that there will be such advances to humanity from the development of such audio products, but as Edwin suggests in his closing statement, this understanding and advance _will_ trickle down to other cable designs. Surely you are aware of other such extravagant accomplishments, in other areas. Take the Bugatti La Voiture Noire, with an approximate cost of £14.1 million or $18.7 million. ruclips.net/video/XYQEUVl-8ZA/видео.html While it can easily be argued that no one _needs_ such a vehicle, how can you possibly argue that no one should pursue the creation of such an exceptional automobile, or that if someone has the disposable income to afford one, they shouldn’t have one? This is a perfect example of a double-edged sword and one that I don’t understand at all. Simply because you cannot, or choose not, to afford such items, doesn’t invalidate their development or existence.

​@carlosoliveira-rc2xt yes, I am aware that they make excellent, less expensive cables at various price points, not less quality, and are an excellent manufacturer. I am also aware of the excellent sounding systems in home and at shows that I have heard with their cables. Yes, there are $5M automobiles and also those at higher prices. That fact, however, has nothing to do with audio cables or this hobby.

​@theaudioanalyst Greg, I did not in any way suggest or argue the things that your post attempts to assert or imply. My only (obviously contentious) point is an objection to prices that seem to be going up without bounds in this hobby, not NASA missions and accomplishments, not uber luxury performance automobiles or anything else outside the audio hobby frame of reference. I expect many people (including you and Carlos here, obviously) to disagree with this and have an opposite viewpoint, which I respect you and others for having. Furthermore, I also complimented the cables, connectors, and Siltech in another post here and also on forums in the past, and stated I would love to hear this model (at any price) to see what they bring to an already performant system. I am not a cable denier; I have heard and believe that they make a very big and essential difference. My entire cable loom (many more elements) is in the stated range so I'm clearly a bit nuts about chasing the dragon as well; I simply have different opinions than some about the trajectory of single item prices overall in the hobby. Disagreements are healthy, and I am wrong frequently, daily, in fact. Have a good day, and I hope that you all enjoy the music!

@@SCAudiophile Again, I can accept your choice AND position. It was your closing statement, "...where prices are beyond justifiable." that I was responding to. Your premise _seems_ to be outrage at price alone, with no consideration given to the results... Beyond that, you surely understand that there was no animus directed toward you or your position. I was merely defending the premise...nothing more! 😉

@RichardDiamond-wz7rs Thank you so much, Double D! it was also great getting to spend time with you… Stay safe, my friend!

LOL! The only thing your comment makes perfectly clear is that you have no experience with properly set up panels of any kind, Maggies, Soundlabs, Alsyvox, etc. Honestly, some of the larger horn speakers, like some of the bigger Acapella or Avantgarde speakers will create that larger-than-life image and staging. But that isn't an issue with any of the point 7 series Maggies, which you'd know if you'd ever heard them...

You can’t tell what it really sounds like over RUclips

Hegel H390

Thanks so much, Bill...