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VINNY
Великобритания
Добавлен 20 ноя 2019
Uncensored, Honest Watch Talk. I'm Vinny; wristwatch nerd and former Banker turned Grey Market Watch Dealer. This was the first channel on RUclips to chat about the financial side of watches and to openly discuss trade prices. I'll have a laugh, poke fun and share my opinions (popular or not) but one thing is for sure - I wont hold back from telling it how it is.
I started as a collector working my way up from TAG Heuer to Rolex and the disease still riddles me today, oh and yes - I'm on the 'dark side' (one of those dealers) but unlike the rest I’m not here to sell, inflate the value or hype my inventory.
I chat about timepieces from brands such as Rolex and Omega, debate current industry topics and offer useful financial analysis of the market as well as share my insider industry knowledge. Want something different and truly honest?
WEBSITE: beatthewaitlist-watches.com
INSTAGRAM: beatthewaitlist_watches
EMAIL: info@beatthewaitlist-watches.com
I started as a collector working my way up from TAG Heuer to Rolex and the disease still riddles me today, oh and yes - I'm on the 'dark side' (one of those dealers) but unlike the rest I’m not here to sell, inflate the value or hype my inventory.
I chat about timepieces from brands such as Rolex and Omega, debate current industry topics and offer useful financial analysis of the market as well as share my insider industry knowledge. Want something different and truly honest?
WEBSITE: beatthewaitlist-watches.com
INSTAGRAM: beatthewaitlist_watches
EMAIL: info@beatthewaitlist-watches.com
I BOUGHT A SUBMARINER NEW FROM THE AD...and with Rolex's new patent masterplan, I'd get blacklisted!
I've just bought a Rolex Submariner brand new from an Authorised dealer for £9000 and yes i'm going to flip it straight away! But Vinny I hear you ask, you’re an independent dealer - what if Rolex discovered that an AD sold you stock knowing you intend to sell and profit? Its possible, How possible? Well its soon to get a lot more possible with the brand dropping their latest bombshell- they may have just made a power move that could flip (excuse the pun) the luxury watch world on its head.
First they launched their Certified Pre-Owned program to tap into the massive profits grey dealers were making. Then, by acquiring Bucherer, they effectively cut out the wholesaler AD’s and began sellin...
First they launched their Certified Pre-Owned program to tap into the massive profits grey dealers were making. Then, by acquiring Bucherer, they effectively cut out the wholesaler AD’s and began sellin...
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Gold Rolex’s now UNSELLABLE! Have Retail price hikes killed AD’s?
Просмотров 11 тыс.Месяц назад
In the past four years, we've navigated a global pandemic, inflation spikes, economic turbulence, and rising costs of living-yet throughout it all, Rolex prices have skyrocketed. Could this turmoil be an excuse for the brand to expand its profit margins? Let's dig deeper to uncover whether Rolex is leveraging the situation for gain, and if you're receiving greater value-or just paying a premium...
SURPRISING Watch Market Update, prices analysed for TOP BRANDS & the Rolex DEFYING the dip!
Просмотров 8 тыс.2 месяца назад
Join this channel to get access to perks: ruclips.net/channel/UC1OcmnkOxXC5fqQ4cRAefuAjoin Investing in watches; I know that’s a taboo subject nowadays and to many the concept has been blown to pieces as luxury watch values have taken a hammering on the battlefield that is the grey market. However, believe it or not a handful of timepieces have defied gravity. Some exceptions to the rule have s...
Have you been waiting for the bottom??… Every Hot Rolex - Should you buy now or keep waiting?
Просмотров 32 тыс.2 месяца назад
Join this channel to get access to perks: ruclips.net/channel/UC1OcmnkOxXC5fqQ4cRAefuAjoin We stand at the crossroads of a decisive moment for watch enthusiasts. The Grey market for Rolex timepieces has seen a gradual and uniform albeit slow downward trend. Values following 2 and a half years of a slump now sit at their lowest point since the peak of 2021. This isn’t just a dip; it’s a seismic ...
The DARKEST SECRET of the Grey Market? You would be paying LESS for Rolex if market were cashless
Просмотров 4,9 тыс.3 месяца назад
The DARKEST SECRET of the Grey Market? You would be paying LESS for Rolex if market were cashless
Rolex RAMPS UP production - BIGGEST THREAT YET? Grey Market Dealer OPENS UP
Просмотров 25 тыс.4 месяца назад
Rolex RAMPS UP production - BIGGEST THREAT YET? Grey Market Dealer OPENS UP
Rolex PARKS investment in Innovation as retail sales FLATLINE. Plucky brands like Aventi lead!
Просмотров 6 тыс.4 месяца назад
Rolex PARKS investment in Innovation as retail sales FLATLINE. Plucky brands like Aventi lead!
Rolex CONTROLLING Grey Market? Shocking CPO watch premiums revealed for 2024
Просмотров 21 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Rolex CONTROLLING Grey Market? Shocking CPO watch premiums revealed for 2024
My DISAPPOINTING Experience with Rolex & Others at Watches & Wonders - Brands EXCLUDED at Event?
Просмотров 4,3 тыс.5 месяцев назад
My DISAPPOINTING Experience with Rolex & Others at Watches & Wonders - Brands EXCLUDED at Event?
Pepsi to PLUMMET, Le Mans to Le Moon? Predicting Grey Market prices of Rolex Watches & Wonders 2024
Просмотров 10 тыс.6 месяцев назад
Pepsi to PLUMMET, Le Mans to Le Moon? Predicting Grey Market prices of Rolex Watches & Wonders 2024
DOOMED Watch Flippers’ FINAL CURTAIN - 90% of Rolex now trade below retail!
Просмотров 23 тыс.6 месяцев назад
DOOMED Watch Flippers’ FINAL CURTAIN - 90% of Rolex now trade below retail!
UNBELIEVABLE Rolex retail RED LIST, Dealer reveals LAST 'Flipper' watches standing!
Просмотров 27 тыс.6 месяцев назад
UNBELIEVABLE Rolex retail RED LIST, Dealer reveals LAST 'Flipper' watches standing!
Reviewing New Watch Platforms…Why Digital Watch Vault & others WONT work for Rolex Collectors
Просмотров 9 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Reviewing New Watch Platforms…Why Digital Watch Vault & others WONT work for Rolex Collectors
MORE LOSSES to come for Backpack Grey Watch Dealers? UK Recession sets back Rolex Market growth
Просмотров 7 тыс.7 месяцев назад
MORE LOSSES to come for Backpack Grey Watch Dealers? UK Recession sets back Rolex Market growth
GREEDY DEALERS’ ‘Race To The Bottom Continues’. Watch Dealer Honest Forecast For Rolex Market
Просмотров 33 тыс.8 месяцев назад
GREEDY DEALERS’ ‘Race To The Bottom Continues’. Watch Dealer Honest Forecast For Rolex Market
Will this CRISIS mark the DOWNFALL OF ROLEX? The under the radar stealth watches you need to buy!
Просмотров 9 тыс.9 месяцев назад
Will this CRISIS mark the DOWNFALL OF ROLEX? The under the radar stealth watches you need to buy!
FAKE WAITLISTS at Rolex AD’s! Dealer reveals how the watch industry must CHANGE in 2024
Просмотров 11 тыс.9 месяцев назад
FAKE WAITLISTS at Rolex AD’s! Dealer reveals how the watch industry must CHANGE in 2024
Top Watch Brands IN BIG TROUBLE!? The state of the market for ELITE BRANDS beyond Rolex.
Просмотров 23 тыс.10 месяцев назад
Top Watch Brands IN BIG TROUBLE!? The state of the market for ELITE BRANDS beyond Rolex.
Watch Market WINNERS & BINNERS of 2023. The EPIC watch releases and has Rolex lost top spot?
Просмотров 6 тыс.11 месяцев назад
Watch Market WINNERS & BINNERS of 2023. The EPIC watch releases and has Rolex lost top spot?
The Pepsi. How rumours FOOLED so many into buying Rolex out of Fear Of Missing Out.
Просмотров 14 тыс.11 месяцев назад
The Pepsi. How rumours FOOLED so many into buying Rolex out of Fear Of Missing Out.
Dealers or Stealers? Enough speculation! Here's the hard truth about the future of Rolex values.
Просмотров 22 тыс.Год назад
Dealers or Stealers? Enough speculation! Here's the hard truth about the future of Rolex values.
ITS A CON! Enough of these DIRTY GAMES! Swatch make Rolex look like angels with Blancpain Collab
Просмотров 9 тыс.Год назад
ITS A CON! Enough of these DIRTY GAMES! Swatch make Rolex look like angels with Blancpain Collab
Rolex to follow AP & DITCH Authorised Dealers? Heres how they could RESCUE the Grey Market #bucherer
Просмотров 8 тыс.Год назад
Rolex to follow AP & DITCH Authorised Dealers? Heres how they could RESCUE the Grey Market #bucherer
Timepiece Gentleman SCANDAL, Rolex Watch Dealer bluntly talks of the lessons learned!
Просмотров 16 тыс.Год назад
Timepiece Gentleman SCANDAL, Rolex Watch Dealer bluntly talks of the lessons learned!
Rolex buyers SCARED TO INVEST during market slump are being STALKED by these unlikely brands!
Просмотров 13 тыс.Год назад
Rolex buyers SCARED TO INVEST during market slump are being STALKED by these unlikely brands!
You're being BRAINWASHED by hype! Open your mind to these Rolex alternatives to common watches
Просмотров 14 тыс.Год назад
You're being BRAINWASHED by hype! Open your mind to these Rolex alternatives to common watches
The MUPPET dealer channels are LYING to you! This is the real current state of Rolex Watch Market
Просмотров 27 тыс.Год назад
The MUPPET dealer channels are LYING to you! This is the real current state of Rolex Watch Market
Watch Investing UPDATE - Its NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to get right! 7 Rules One Year On From Rolex CRASH!
Просмотров 8 тыс.Год назад
Watch Investing UPDATE - Its NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to get right! 7 Rules One Year On From Rolex CRASH!
The BIG HYPE WATCHES! Flip or Pass? Still a Profit to be made on Rolex, AP & Patek?
Просмотров 10 тыс.Год назад
The BIG HYPE WATCHES! Flip or Pass? Still a Profit to be made on Rolex, AP & Patek?
Rolex's BIG SECRET CHANGE is happening! Unhappy Clients Turning to Tudor? CIGA Design the Future?
Просмотров 5 тыс.Год назад
Rolex's BIG SECRET CHANGE is happening! Unhappy Clients Turning to Tudor? CIGA Design the Future?
I tried buying a Rolex Everose gold GMTII today and they wanted full retail. Sign to me that they’re still not getting a lot of inventory. I see them online for around $36,000 so waiting for a reliable seller to hook me up. I feel the longer I wait, the lower they’ll go for the foreseeable future.
Great episode. Could be a once a month update, please?
You definitely cannot walk in and buy a Submariner no date 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I see zero value in a watch other than a timex quartz
Sorry, is R factory the best?
I hope all grey market flippers , go bankrupt.
You're a scum 😂 Love your transparency though 😂 Kinda want to get your subby now 😂
don't give a sht about hype rolex models, these crypto bros and fanboys have ruined the brand
Vinny, Are you talking hypothetically?
It's getting so crazy. I like some Rolexes. But they're not the only watches out there. I can feel myself moving closer and closer to just moving on and...buying other brands.
Don’t forget that the Rolex’ net profit goes into charity. The profit of the secondary market dealer usually doesn’t.
sure, but only after all the bosses get their fat bonuses, this is considered an overhead which is before Net Profit, so the argument that no one gains from a NFP is a misnomer
Easy to get round that , each watch should have its time line showing all its owners from day one .
Love your channel with so many stellar watches! For me the AMZWATCH’ watch is my favorite. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.
Wait till 2025, Rolex is increasing production, as models become easier to get they will also become less desirable. We always want what we can’t get so all the fake watch lovers that just want something to show like look what I got will drift away when it no longer becomes cool. And that will open the door for real watch enthusiasts. Stay patient people. You will get the call eventually
Good step for genuine collectors. Cuts the middleman out and there mark up. Grey market will then exist for vintage or new vintages rolex only
Good riddance, if it works. Gives people who just want to buy a watch a better chance of ever owning one.
Too much audio compression! You're practically shouting the whole time.
what are you talking about?
@@vinnyfrancis As I have written: The audio is so heavily compressed that your voice no longer has any dynamics and therefore always sounds loud.
@@franksembowski6707 what can you suggest as improvement? We use levalier + Rode wireless go mic and import the audio with no audio editing
@@vinnyfrancis I once had a Rode lavalier kit. The quality wasn't really outstanding wirelessly, but it was quite usable via wire. So, I suspect that it is partly due to the poor wireless transmission. It's interesting that you don't make any changes to the imported audio. Therefore something else could play a role here. I don't know if the microphone used has a flat frequency response or is equalized in a standardized way, as is the case with some lavalier microphones. If it has a linear design, the frequencies must be lowered at 800 Hz and raised at 8 kHz using an equalizer in post production. The reason for this is that with a lavalier microphone placed in front of the chest, the frequencies around 800 Hz are amplified and the higher frequencies are reduced. This must be corrected afterwards.
I like the watch I got from AMZWATCH. That rubber strap combo looks really cool! Been wearing it since last year and love every minute of it.
Rolex needs the grey market to make their products desirable, no? Also GDPR, google were sued massively for this
Grey market are scumbags
A collector like me does not own a Rolex, and I refuse to pay anything over the retail price for one. Rolex watches are great, but they are not worth anything above their retail price tag.
Only a vulgarian would wear a 40mm day date. 36mm is the gent's size.
The automotive OEMs like Ferrari have done the blacklisting thing but it hasnt slowed down 2nd hand dealers one bit. It just means a churn in the AD buyers but the rest doesnt change
I bought a Rolex from a addicted dealer and sold it for £373 profit I was very happy
COLONEL SANDERS from Miami mentioned your channel. Id look into it.
This is good. People who want to buy from the grey market then fine, there are risks. But for those who need the peace of mind and want to pay extra then the service is there. I wouldn't trust any third party to update anything either.... but. Good luck lining up for a pre-loved certified watch if you have to jump through the same hoops as currently in play + WTF, why would someone with the means to purchase something would ever want their name made available to anyone else?
yes this is a good point, a major flaw in the plan potentially, PRIVACY!
I would pay at least £500 for any Rolex
The registration of AD servicing is becoming very similar to cars such as BMW. Only approved mechanics can update the cars on board computer recording the service.
Rolex has become one of , if not the biggest scam in history. Rolex is so full of themselves but worst why would anyone want to be treated as beggers just to get a watch branded as Rolex. Sad indeed. I'll keep my Omega and go on a world wide vacation trip.
Really tired of hearing about the Rolex Pepsi in EVERY Rolex video.
it’s not mentioned in every video on this channel I can assure you
BULLSHIT!
Doesn’t matter if Rolex pads their pockets. It is their products after all. The Grey market will be affected for sure, but it’s not like they were helping 2nd hand buyers at all. In fact, the crazy pricing was brought all in by the secondary market after all. Buyers shouldn’t worry about this at all. This is more added security for buyers. All good to me.
I love this! Great for owners. All positive advantages only for the customers. Don’t care much for re-sellers overall.
Buy Ωmega instead they are beter and no questions asked
superb watches yeah! Though you’d be saving a lot if you bought them on grey market slightly used, their retail prices have gone up a lot lately
This was awesome and you’re a great guy, I don’t mean this to sound coldhearted at all, but this is the solution I’ve been looking for as consumer. I have been frustrated that all these non-watch enthusiast have made possible for me to purchase watches used to be able to get relatively easily. Look if the business is growing, great for that. I can’t complain there. But if we have people who aren’t genuinely waiting for it, really wanting it, taking a spot in line, get out of the line do something different and let legitimate people purchase the watches. So me personally I’m in favor.and yes, I’m willing to pay a little extra to not have to wait in a line with people who are simply trying to profit in this hobby
Great points all round and very valid indeed, though since i published this video, there has been a lot of feedback with concerns over privacy. It is the original owners choice wether to upload their details and i’ve got to be honest i think a larger proportion will reject the option of doing so, therefore your point on crime prevention will only be affective to a degree but not in totality, thanks again!
Actually, it will help with crime. If someone steals a watch, it will be reported as stolen. Then they try to sell it to you because that’s how they get their money. You will definitely check to see if it was stolen, find out it is stolen, and return it to me. so for a time people stealing the watches will simply lose the stone object back to the person who owns it and then people know, don’t steal Rolex, you can’t really sell it on the aftermarket. This does have value to me.
Rawlex
Had my name on Vacherons list for a Blue dualtime Overseas and got the call yesterday but had to decline as I can’t really justify spending £30k at the minute, gutted as I prob wouldn’t have bought my Root beer last Xmas , found out a friend of a friend also had the call and they tried to hard sell him as well, lean times maybe? What’s your thoughts Vinny? Love the watch but its almost available at list on the grey market, they offered me the black dial at first but I’d have to be mad to be buy that list😂
Hi, yes ive heard of a few people getting lucky on the blue dial calls now, the heat for VC has just evaporated completely, problem with the brand is they have just one hype watch so they're getting turned down more and more out of fear of falling even more. Even at grey they're a very tough sell now so liquidity of them is not good and ease of resale will be challenging.
@@vinnyfrancis yeah my thoughts as well, great watch but 30k buys a few Rolex…
I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. AMZWATCH brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !
I am a long time Rolex customer, I currently own a GMT Master II… I have a slightly different take. I have Rolex and Omega and money is not a factor for me - my next 3 watches will be Citizen Eco Drives because in my 20+ watches, I have 3 Citizen Caliber 2100’s a titanium from 1998 and the black and white dial versions from 2006 - all 3 still operate perfectly, never serviced, worn regularly - no more spending thousands of dollars when I can get the best watch on the planet, an Eco Drive (done with horological artistry it’s just bullsh!t).
Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from MAMACOO I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.
At the end more watches are sold through grey dealers anyway so most people won't use the system. Most Rolex buyers buy to flip so this system will destroy their incentive to buy and will probably crash the Rolex market in the long run because it won't be profitable to buy a Rolex.
@@andricopoulos70 Only in the last few years has Rolex been bought to flip.All my friends/family who own luxury watches will never sell,they will eventually be given to the next generation.
If I had a brand new car, I would want it to have a full service history from the manufacturer’s, so when I sell it it’s worth more…surely that would be the same with my Rolex, especially with NFT chip in the warranty card/service card, as you scan it it tells the buyer what’s been done, a full run down of the history of that watch. What’s wrong with that?
nothing particularly, i discuss all angles of interpretation in the video…
@@vinnyfrancis yeah I understand that pal, am just pointing out it’s like a cars service history and it’s always worth more with a full manufacturer’s service history
It’s really not that simple, the IRS will want to see where the funds came from to originally by the watch. When you are not able to provide that guess what happens
Good on Rolex for protecting their product, reputation, and company.
Gold prices have increased and yes the the rolex prices are rather high.
This sounds potentially illegal under competition law. Even though Switzerland isn't in the EU Rolex SA would never be able to run this policy if the EU declared it a breach of EU competition law. Time to contact Brussels ...
Then all "Independent" Watch Repair Specialists need to offer more than a "receipt" as proof of repair. Perhaps offer an online video or 'pictorial' to include serial numbers etc... most are very good, so it shouldn't be too hard to provide additional supporting evidence of a service or repair (not dissimilar to a car)... many people will choose an independent BMW dealer over a "main stealer" for most things above and beyond the warranty. Well, some will.... and some won't.
Absolute nonsense digital is no different than old system. You are just scaremongering and creating a problem that doesn’t exist.
so what is the ‘old system’, no system exists for external parties to check information associated with the watch. Perhaps rewatch the video to make sense of it, thanks
@@vinnyfrancis The 'lost and stolen' list used to be accessible.
Vinny is a smart guy.
hey gshock! i’m sure i’ve seen you on Tims stream, great collection by the way! cheers and all the best