I own this watch, bought it in Iran in 1978. Still in perfect running condition. Now I can do a little research and hopefully find out what what she is worth.
Great that will fetch some cash. *I used to be a collector, but I liquidated my collection to venture into real estate. In January, I acquired homes in Malibu for $45million, and the returns on investment far exceed what I earned as a collector.
How did you grow your portfolio to $45m, I'm impressed, I have a lump sum in the bank, the rates are not impressive so I'm moving it, what's your cash flow like?
Let's give credit to Sinn for their use of tegiment stainless steel which provides extremely effective protection from scratches. Tegiment steel is used on submarines.
so many people are commenting about Sinn, this is fascinating! i must admit i never heard of this, thanks for the knowledge! i will now do some research
@@vinnyfranciswatches As an aside, I really want to buy a Cartier Santos, but the bezel is a scratch magnet. I wish I could get Cartier to talk to Sinn about making the bezel in tegiment steel for the Santos.
@vinnyfrancis Wow you don't know about Sinn, oh you are going to enjoy learning about Sinn one of the my favourite brands bar none! I got the new EZ13.1 and the...U1 DS limited to 500 pieces, 1000 meters water resistant! Tegimented technology. My Ezm has D3 Sinn Technology and you can press the chrono 500 meters under water. All made from submarine steel and Tegimented, which means basically scratch proof! Type in on RUclips tests witch scratching a tegimented Sinn watch. And you will go down a rabbit whole😂. I also wear a Sinn 556i as a beater.
Vinny, i find this a bit disappointing. There was masses of Instagram influencers plugging these a year or two ago, its a mass of plastic inside and out and its got no pedigree.
Fair enough, RM don’t have much pedigree either if you look at their non existent history, i’m not an ‘influencer’ plugging anything l. this channel represents my views and is fun and educational
Shocking news: my $200 citizen Eco Drive diver is made of steel that looks just as silvery and shiny as the steel on a Rolex Omega, but despite years of hard wear does not have a scratch on it, as it appears to be hardened. Now that is extreme quality.
i couldn’t care less about anyone else, this watch case material i innovative and fits perfectly within my wider exploration of the past present and future of materials in luxury watches. I have zero and have never had any association or contact with this character mentioned
Todays Rolex watches may get little cosmetic scratches, swirls and flea bites more easily than vintage Rolex, but modern Rolex are dramatically more robust. Modern Rolex bracelets don’t stretch or fail like vintage. Modern waterproofness, accuracy, shock resistance, antimagnetic properties, power reserve etc. make them the far superior tool watches over vintage. But one thing is for sure, they aren’t branded as the tool watches they used to be and they aren’t priced as tool watches ought to be.
Rolex do make amazing watches but the demand is mainly based on the belief that they are worth more than retail. Once that changes (and it mostly will) sales will slump.
Lets cut to the chase and forget about the scratches , Lets talk about why sales are down and why people like me have exited the brand , well its easy to say now as its clear as day , too many ridiculous price hikes ! the brand has picked a new era of chav tastic customers with little to no class , and the brand is like shxt to blanket to low life criminals , hence why people won't wear them when going out and about ! don't even get me started why the Rolex register scrapped , bring back the pre covid days I say ! at least you could wear your watches !
😮 Blame Instagram...Twitter.. Oh & trotters & the geordie boys too 😂 I do...... As every low level (:rug ) l dealer now knows what's what in the watch world!
Credit for Aventi should really go to the Chinese manufacturers they are using. Aventi is essentially just two Aussie blokes working from their kitchen. The level of manufacturing skills in China is amazing and under rated. And the sapphire cases Aventi uses are all from China too. They are highly affordable and nowhere near as expensive as these brands make them out to be. A sapphire case maker I spoke to offer cases at $1000-2000 each and they have confidential agreements with Swiss brands. They can’t disclose who they are supplying the cases too, but some Swiss brands are definitely buying from China and then marking up the retail prices exponentially. The Swiss brands are good at marketing and creating the illusion of quality and exclusivity. A lot of it is BS. And Aventi is doing the same by playing the artificial shortage game, to create hype and to compensate for the fact its watches are made in China. Aventi is innovative but they insist on playing games with customers by making them do an interview before selling them a piece. It’s a shame.
About time too. What’s the opposite for when the dealer tells you with some pride that the watch isn’t available and the waiting list is closed so …… go elsewhere basically.
The future of scratch resistance is surely in the hardening process on traditional materials like steel and titanium done excellently by brands like Sinn, Damasko, and others. Even some microbrands like RZE and Traska are doing it to very high levels of measured vickers hardness.. 4P used to shill Avanti back in the day but it didn't last long. Good to see innovations from wherever. I'm amazed they're still around but as RM seem about to disappear down the same hole as Franck Muller Avanti's designs don't bode well.
I think Aventi make a beautiful timepiece, very different and very affordable, I think you need to be a lion and not a sheep to appreciate what they are doing.
Rolex embodies timeless luxury and reliability with its established heritage and classic designs: for someone like me, boring. Aventi offers bold, modern aesthetics and exclusivity, appealing to those seeking unique, avant-garde timepieces: for someone like me, exciting. To each their own
@@vinnyfranciswatches On the chart, 904L is softer using both Rockwell and Brinell. It is softer regardless of what system you use. That's Rolex's mixture. It was built for saltwater.. it wasn't built to resist scratches.
I only get scratches on the clasp on my SMP 300… while my bb41 Tudor with the new 5 link just gets hairlines without me doing anything. 😂 Rolex is best value retention. But I’m really just thinking it’s a bs market at this point. No chance all those watches on the grey market getting sold. 😅 not with current prices
Vinny you must be working with brick why you rolex watches scratches the way you claim. I own quite a large collection of rolex watches and wears them daily in various conditions but never experience these unprecedented scratches you are talking about. Rolex will always be king and industry leader regardless of all the other wanna bee
I wish Aventi well - nice to see someone pushing the boundaries. When they don’t have the price on the website I know it’s not for me. I laugh at the ‘Rolex is a tool watch’ stuff from the old boomers. They’re dressy watches with various degrees of sportiness baked in. Rolex plays it safe, rakes in the cash; a few pieces - usually only available to celebrities and the 0.001% of customers - that have some uniqueness.
Rolex Oyster Steel as just marketing. It’s no different to the 904L steel other much lower tier brands use, like Ball and Steinhart. The only difference is the composition of the steel. Rolex changed the composition slightly, claims it’s its own innovation and trade marked it. Rolex applied a fancy term, Oystersteel, describes is as a ‘precious steel’ and slaps a high price on it and people automatically think they are buying something that is super luxury. Rolex is just preying on the naive and uninformed bunch because there’s a sucker born each minute.
It's widely known that Rolex's propietory "Oystersteel" 904L steel is easier to scratch than most steels that others that other brands use. Rolex's Oystersteel alloy is capable of being brought to a higher sheen when polished, which is why they choose to use it. They are very open to this. It's also more corrosion resistant than other brands too, so importantly, it is "better", contrary to what you said. As for the Aventi, it's garbage and honestly, this seems like a paid shill. Aventi are not a "leading" independent brand, they use crap Chinese movements and focus on case materials to look fancy. How you can compare Rolex's developments over the years to Aventi is a joke tbh. Also - why would a Tourbillon with fewer components be more accurate than that from the likes of Lange, Breguet etc? Literally makes no sense. If this was a paid shill for Aventi (and it really does look like an advert), you really should be letting people know.
It’s not widely known, rewatch the video to see the table of facts that suggests the hardness variance between the two is very minimal. I’m aware of the corrosion resistance benefits but this fact was irrelevant to line of argument being made and is irrelevant to how 99% of users will use their Rolex. As for the Aventi featured in the video, I think it’s cool, and to my taste I like it. This channel has my name on it and i’m entitled to my honest opinion without being accused of ‘shilling’. You are wrong in that assumption though i’m flattered you believe the channel is important enough to get paid deals. No comparison in this video of the Aventi movement to a Rolex movement was made so again perhaps rewatch and listen more carefully. Furthermore the point being made regarding the fewer parts on the tourbillon should result in accuracy for longer with longer service intervals, again listen carefully. Finally any suggestion that the Aventi is somehow not innovative as you claim is nonsense. Sapphire Handset, a developed tourbillon with fewer parts and a new case material is the definition of innovation. An area of Rolex watchmaking that has been lacking over the last 10 years. In summary, you’re entitled to your opinion. You’re not entitled to accuse me of shilling for having and opinion and if you have an opinion to the contrary, great, let it be known with class or start your own channel.
Second comment, aventi watch is very ugly 😂 but the innovation is welcome. On both materials but mostly the tourbillon 😊 But I think it’s a lot gimmick and seems like low cost high customer price.
I own this watch, bought it in Iran in 1978. Still in perfect running condition. Now I can do a little research and hopefully find out what what she is worth.
Great that will fetch some cash. *I used to be a collector, but I liquidated my collection to venture into real estate. In January, I acquired homes in Malibu for $45million, and the returns on investment far exceed what I earned as a collector.
How did you grow your portfolio to $45m, I'm impressed, I have a lump sum in the bank, the rates are not impressive so I'm moving it, what's your cash flow like?
I have a financial advisor (trader) she grows my liquid assets and I reinvest the weekly payouts back into real estate and long-term ETFs.
Sure, could you please share her name with me or any details so I can look her up online? Thanks!
She is well known as - Hannah Susan Jennings. please do your own research.
My Aventi Wraith arrives next week !
i enjoy ny pure sapphire every day
Let's give credit to Sinn for their use of tegiment stainless steel which provides extremely effective protection from scratches. Tegiment steel is used on submarines.
so many people are commenting about Sinn, this is fascinating! i must admit i never heard of this, thanks for the knowledge! i will now do some research
@@vinnyfranciswatches As an aside, I really want to buy a Cartier Santos, but the bezel is a scratch magnet. I wish I could get Cartier to talk to Sinn about making the bezel in tegiment steel for the Santos.
@vinnyfrancis Wow you don't know about Sinn, oh you are going to enjoy learning about Sinn one of the my favourite brands bar none! I got the new EZ13.1 and the...U1 DS limited to 500 pieces, 1000 meters water resistant! Tegimented technology. My Ezm has D3 Sinn Technology and you can press the chrono 500 meters under water. All made from submarine steel and Tegimented, which means basically scratch proof! Type in on RUclips tests witch scratching a tegimented Sinn watch. And you will go down a rabbit whole😂. I also wear a Sinn 556i as a beater.
Vinny, i find this a bit disappointing. There was masses of Instagram influencers plugging these a year or two ago, its a mass of plastic inside and out and its got no pedigree.
Fair enough, RM don’t have much pedigree either if you look at their non existent history, i’m not an ‘influencer’ plugging anything l. this channel represents my views and is fun and educational
Your advice is sound and educational that's why I watch regularly, and I think RM are overpriced crap personally for the most part.
Shocking news: my $200 citizen Eco Drive diver is made of steel that looks just as silvery and shiny as the steel on a Rolex Omega, but despite years of hard wear does not have a scratch on it, as it appears to be hardened. Now that is extreme quality.
That Aventi watch is horrible!
it’s certainly different though! I think it’s fun
Paul Thorpe tried pumping this gang before - beware!
@@vinnyfranciswatches Paul Thorpe tried pumping this gang - beware!
thorpy tried it before!
i couldn’t care less about anyone else, this watch case material i innovative and fits perfectly within my wider exploration of the past present and future of materials in luxury watches. I have zero and have never had any association or contact with this character mentioned
Vintage rolex watches were actually tool watches, today's rolex watches are highly polished pieces of jewelry, highly polished means easily scratched
very true!
You beat me too it. As the saying goes ‘the only liquid hitting most Subs these days is champagne!’
Todays Rolex watches may get little cosmetic scratches, swirls and flea bites more easily than vintage Rolex, but modern Rolex are dramatically more robust. Modern Rolex bracelets don’t stretch or fail like vintage. Modern waterproofness, accuracy, shock resistance, antimagnetic properties, power reserve etc. make them the far superior tool watches over vintage. But one thing is for sure, they aren’t branded as the tool watches they used to be and they aren’t priced as tool watches ought to be.
Rolex do make amazing watches but the demand is mainly based on the belief that they are worth more than retail. Once that changes (and it mostly will) sales will slump.
Horrendous looking watch imo, might be nice for others
Yeah, for nonbinary Ukrainians.
Lets cut to the chase and forget about the scratches , Lets talk about why sales are down and why people like me have exited the brand , well its easy to say now as its clear as day , too many ridiculous price hikes ! the brand has picked a new era of chav tastic customers with little to no class , and the brand is like shxt to blanket to low life criminals , hence why people won't wear them when going out and about ! don't even get me started why the Rolex register scrapped , bring back the pre covid days I say ! at least you could wear your watches !
😮 Blame Instagram...Twitter..
Oh & trotters & the geordie boys too 😂
I do......
As every low level (:rug ) l dealer now knows what's what in the watch world!
Bang on 👌🏼
Credit for Aventi should really go to the Chinese manufacturers they are using. Aventi is essentially just two Aussie blokes working from their kitchen. The level of manufacturing skills in China is amazing and under rated. And the sapphire cases Aventi uses are all from China too. They are highly affordable and nowhere near as expensive as these brands make them out to be. A sapphire case maker I spoke to offer cases at $1000-2000 each and they have confidential agreements with Swiss brands. They can’t disclose who they are supplying the cases too, but some Swiss brands are definitely buying from China and then marking up the retail prices exponentially. The Swiss brands are good at marketing and creating the illusion of quality and exclusivity. A lot of it is BS. And Aventi is doing the same by playing the artificial shortage game, to create hype and to compensate for the fact its watches are made in China. Aventi is innovative but they insist on playing games with customers by making them do an interview before selling them a piece. It’s a shame.
They've discontinued most if not all of their lines with Chinese movement
About time too. What’s the opposite for when the dealer tells you with some pride that the watch isn’t available and the waiting list is closed so …… go elsewhere basically.
very true, that is getting boring now every time I walk into an AD😂
The future of scratch resistance is surely in the hardening process on traditional materials like steel and titanium done excellently by brands like Sinn, Damasko, and others. Even some microbrands like RZE and Traska are doing it to very high levels of measured vickers hardness.. 4P used to shill Avanti back in the day but it didn't last long. Good to see innovations from wherever. I'm amazed they're still around but as RM seem about to disappear down the same hole as Franck Muller Avanti's designs don't bode well.
Great point! the hardening process is certainly evolving with technological advancement
Aventi to me is like Invicta… Such trash designs it no longer matters that they use fancy materials…. 🤮
I think Aventi make a beautiful timepiece, very different and very affordable, I think you need to be a lion and not a sheep to appreciate what they are doing.
Thanks i think it’s a cool watch but of course that’s a matter of personal taste, many will see it as too flashy
affordable? lol
As a guy who collects knives , steel has come a long way in the last few years.
i think watches in 2024 should look like that Aventi
That ceramic Rado looks great!
I love it!
Rolex embodies timeless luxury and reliability with its established heritage and classic designs: for someone like me, boring. Aventi offers bold, modern aesthetics and exclusivity, appealing to those seeking unique, avant-garde timepieces: for someone like me, exciting. To each their own
904L is actually softer... it is softer than 316 but more corrosion resistant and shinier.
depends on which hardness scale you refer to, one says it’s equivalent and the other slightly softer of you see the table displayed on the video
@@vinnyfranciswatches On the chart, 904L is softer using both Rockwell and Brinell. It is softer regardless of what system you use. That's Rolex's mixture. It was built for saltwater.. it wasn't built to resist scratches.
Some dreadful looking watches there!
🤮
I only get scratches on the clasp on my SMP 300… while my bb41 Tudor with the new 5 link just gets hairlines without me doing anything. 😂
Rolex is best value retention. But I’m really just thinking it’s a bs market at this point. No chance all those watches on the grey market getting sold. 😅 not with current prices
Many cool individual elements on this Aventi, but all-together they'd make 99% of the population look like a clown if they wore it.
If you stray from Rolex, you are very likely to lose money. And if you stray from Rolex, you can kiss resale good bye.
Vinny you must be working with brick why you rolex watches scratches the way you claim. I own quite a large collection of rolex watches and wears them daily in various conditions but never experience these unprecedented scratches you are talking about. Rolex will always be king and industry leader regardless of all the other wanna bee
The way I have been treated from Rolex in the last 6 years asking to buy a watch with them they can shove it
I wish Aventi well - nice to see someone pushing the boundaries. When they don’t have the price on the website I know it’s not for me.
I laugh at the ‘Rolex is a tool watch’ stuff from the old boomers. They’re dressy watches with various degrees of sportiness baked in. Rolex plays it safe, rakes in the cash; a few pieces - usually only available to celebrities and the 0.001% of customers - that have some uniqueness.
Point well made regarding Rolex, their tool watch brand image i think has been replaced now by luxury only
Rolex Oyster Steel as just marketing. It’s no different to the 904L steel other much lower tier brands use, like Ball and Steinhart. The only difference is the composition of the steel. Rolex changed the composition slightly, claims it’s its own innovation and trade marked it. Rolex applied a fancy term, Oystersteel, describes is as a ‘precious steel’ and slaps a high price on it and people automatically think they are buying something that is super luxury. Rolex is just preying on the naive and uninformed bunch because there’s a sucker born each minute.
It's widely known that Rolex's propietory "Oystersteel" 904L steel is easier to scratch than most steels that others that other brands use. Rolex's Oystersteel alloy is capable of being brought to a higher sheen when polished, which is why they choose to use it. They are very open to this. It's also more corrosion resistant than other brands too, so importantly, it is "better", contrary to what you said.
As for the Aventi, it's garbage and honestly, this seems like a paid shill. Aventi are not a "leading" independent brand, they use crap Chinese movements and focus on case materials to look fancy. How you can compare Rolex's developments over the years to Aventi is a joke tbh. Also - why would a Tourbillon with fewer components be more accurate than that from the likes of Lange, Breguet etc? Literally makes no sense.
If this was a paid shill for Aventi (and it really does look like an advert), you really should be letting people know.
It’s not widely known, rewatch the video to see the table of facts that suggests the hardness variance between the two is very minimal. I’m aware of the corrosion resistance benefits but this fact was irrelevant to line of argument being made and is irrelevant to how 99% of users will use their Rolex. As for the Aventi featured in the video, I think it’s cool, and to my taste I like it. This channel has my name on it and i’m entitled to my honest opinion without being accused of ‘shilling’. You are wrong in that assumption though i’m flattered you believe the channel is important enough to get paid deals. No comparison in this video of the Aventi movement to a Rolex movement was made so again perhaps rewatch and listen more carefully. Furthermore the point being made regarding the fewer parts on the tourbillon should result in accuracy for longer with longer service intervals, again listen carefully. Finally any suggestion that the Aventi is somehow not innovative as you claim is nonsense. Sapphire Handset, a developed tourbillon with fewer parts and a new case material is the definition of innovation. An area of Rolex watchmaking that has been lacking over the last 10 years. In summary, you’re entitled to your opinion. You’re not entitled to accuse me of shilling for having and opinion and if you have an opinion to the contrary, great, let it be known with class or start your own channel.
I don't care what materials Aventi uses, the watches look like utter crap.
Second comment, aventi watch is very ugly 😂 but the innovation is welcome. On both materials but mostly the tourbillon 😊
But I think it’s a lot gimmick and seems like low cost high customer price.
Come on man don’t start putting Rolex down. You’re the best Watches you can buy for the money and the best looking and make you feel great.
HEY #mamacoo I have been watching you for years and im so proud of where you have made it! I love you so much! Also thanks for making my day