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Not really, you want shu for the shelter buff, otherwise hoshi can get one tapped. You can run skalter saria and/or nian on bench for the extra defense.

Save 300 and spark her

You can use lumen, the blue water boy

Sure xusuy#9897

@@Xusuy I have send it ^^ , HanaFrost#6917

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Everyone except shu is p6. I don't think pots matter that much. The modules matter more than the pots.

You can, you'll need an extra body early game cause gg will leak

Glad you enjoyed

The m2 is the bigger issue. You need m3 to get enough dp to get virtousa out.

Yeah by me

lv 85 module 3 cleared with the last shieldguard leaking, I used Schwarz in the team bc I borrowed typhon :D

@@charginginprogresss update worked with my lvl 80 typhon without leaks (ig i got good rng) (also texas for +2 intail dp)

Just bring some robot to stall a bit and easy clear

I just cleared with S2M3 Mod3 at level 60. No leaks at all

@@greyleaf so it's just matter of rng?

I think that's the beauty of this game. It's just a unique solution. There are a lot of 620+ clears that have more interactions yes, but less niche units, less pots or module requirements. This is an "AFK" run yes, but not everyone can replicate it because not everyone has the OPs I have . I would agree with you if I was able to do this on the max 800+ risk, but I can't. I think AK has taken and rightfully should have, they made the 620/risk 18 easier overall, but the max top end hard as hell to accommodate new players. New players with a 1 month - 2 month box should have a way to get the medals. They already missed out on 15 CCs and they will (probably) never be able to get those medals.

just don't use the AFK strat, or push higher risks where it isn't possible, 620 is not true true endgame, just like R18 wasn't in the past

@@Xusuy Sorry. Im just disappointed at today's AK standard. We got more imbalanced ops coming to global (Degen, Ela, Shu, Ray, Walter, Ulpi) but the difficulty doesn't increase at all. Im kinda hope they make another amazing content like CC Deepness. Where it's not just a stat bloating but mechanically challenging too. Even for a stacked account. This game has so much potential.

@@nexpersonal5066 Unfortunately, I already did day 1 620. I didn't see any reason to push further. Eventhough I have the capabilities to do so. Its just DP & DPS check the further you go. Not really that challenging.

@@rafliyaumil8812 Execution was pretty tight on my 660 run, not as tight as DOS S-3 was, but somewhat close, sorting out targeting and not making any mistakes

SA on s1 probably a better choice, but thorns might work

Hoederer on s2 doesn't work. He doesn't get past the recidivist and the boss just walks past him. On s3 I got it to work, but the recidivist was being tanked by him and saria. And so the boss ended being tanked by saria, saria dies in phase 2 after the whole stalling process. Then I'm banking on hoederer 25% to stun for long enough for me to make it to saria redeploy.

@@Xusuy you can use Surtr or Taxas to damage the first Recidivist to make Hoederer kill both and tank the boss. I didn’t bring Saria and Nightingale because Eyja + Skalter is enough healing and I also didn’t bring vanguard so I have 3 extra slot to use.

Hey if it works for you it works for you that's the beauty of AK.

If anything were to be replaced, quibai, and fiametta probably the easiest to replace.

Fia prolly replaceable with ifrit? Quibai.... idk the blind on s1 is pretty good

​@zerotrig8331 SA on s1 for the stealth reveal and may on s1 for the slow is pretty solid. But damage might become an issue if you sub them both out. So it's either SA and fiametta duo or quibai and may duo I think so you can have enough damage and utility.

Nothing beats cc4 stalling with bibeak for 4 hours

Ines, the stealth reval and bind is more important. You can use a bunch of other ops to kill topside

@@Xusuy Thanks, I will try it! :D

Congratulations!

No I just got unlucky on my pulls and didn't get her in my 300 pulls. Had to buy her with the pull certs. But it takes me a long time cause this is a hobby, I'm an adult, I have a job and a family so it takes me awhile to get to everything I want to get to. I sometimes have videos recorded but never upload/edit cause the next op/event comes out and it is what it is. I also do everything blind. I don't really look at the units until they come out on global. The only thing I look at is for the mats I need to have stock to e2 90 m3/6/9.

I appreciate the feedback. Why I have Hoederer in C and not B is because he has too many draw backs. I really hate him having 0 def, he's all HP. He has the 18/21% shelter but it's not enough. You need the flat reduction from DEF. His attack speed is awful. He costs a lot, he's 24 cost putting him next to gavial and blaze. His lane holding skills are S1/S2, S1 is for when he's by himself and he can try to drain tank through it and S2 is more blocks more stats. But both S1 and S2 are doomed by his slow attack speed and S2 makes his attack speed even slower. I value attack speed a lot 2.5/3s attack speed I can't get over it. S3 is great, a lot of damage 200 flat true damage DoT is great, but why did they give him -100 hp/sec for what? And the S3 range is low. If you think he's B tier sure, I can see the argument, but personally I think he has too many drawbacks.

@@Xusuy I mean I think the drawbacks are very easily avoidable because coverage by healers will have that just erased anyways to cover the issue of survivability for other ops in the process, like normal gameplay pretty much gets him covered because you’re already fixing his issue with other ops by healing them so if you just get him covered he handles shit like cake that comes infront of him, like my normal gameplay usually covers for all of his problems for almost no effort at all honestly and it’s usually effort that he benefits from that other ops are receiving from me

I mean sure medics help his 0 defense, but he has 6k HP it'll take a medic a few heals to get him to full. But high cost and the snail attack speed is a massive problem. You can say bring vanguards, but then that's true of everyone. But in chapter 12 theres a Max DP cap as a mechanic of the chapter. So he does get punished by being at such a high cost. And stuff like that can get reused in CC or whatever the new version of CC is called now and he gets punished by -attack speed, -max hp, -attack risk a lot harder than other guards. Again that's my evaluation, I like him, guards are just the most stacked class in the game so it's hard. If you wanna say he's B or higher, sure I can see the argument. But I can't justify putting him higher on my own list.

@@Xusuy I mean chapter 12 was its own… haha hehe funne gimmick (we don’t speak of ch12 with the homies)

Has power creep ever been that big of a deal in this game? I play a lot of gacha games and AK's power creep is probably the slowest among any gacha game. Best examples off the top of my head is SA, saria, Exu, eyja. They're all what still top 5ish within their class. But yeah I would rather Vivianna be OP as well. Right now she's a niche within a niche, and it just feelsbadman.

@@Xusuy I guess this past year has been intense in power creep, starting from taxes and upwards. But it was 3+ years in the making after all. My first gacha was soccer spirits, and the powercreep there was crazy in comparison...the keyword being comparison huh?

Yeah the last 1.5 years or so they have released really strong units (and a lot of stinkers as well). But AK makes enough unique mechanics that niche units will always be viable someway or another or lead you to using different units. And modules can always bring a unit/class back into relevancy. Best examples are like chapter 12 with the max DP limitations, you want low cost high block units to increase your max DP. Chapter 13 DoT characters are crazy good. I don't know if you played through the "hoshi power crept era," but it was like post mudrock release, how people called for the downfall of Hoshi and AK powercreep because mudrock could drain tank through most of the content at the time. Fast forward to today, you can argue mudrock and hoshi are in the same tier of defenders. So I'm not too worried about AK powercreep. Backtracking to vivianna a bit. Skadi was in the same position as her pre module, pre gladiia. But post gladiia and modules, skadi on the abyssal squad is a very solid lane holder, boss fighter etc. And we know they just made Shu team buffs so theyll be good as a squad once it rounds out more. So there will come a day darknights gets this treatment as well I hope. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

Surtr is the best arts guard in the game. She's a must build on every account. Amiya is someone you have to build for the story. They force you to E2 her for chapter 8. And she converts to an arts guard. Other options are quibai, thorns, lappland, ayerscrape. They're lords but they do arts damage on skills, thorns does a flat arts DoT. My general advice to people when it comes to should you build a unit or not is do whatever you want. Don't chase meta, (and if you are chasing meta my channel isn't the best channel for you to watch) build units that is fun for you to play with or you like their art, VA, etc. However if you want to give recommendations on what's the best value for your mats/lmd/exp because you're a F2P player I'd be more than happy to share my thoughts.

Amiya is a good art guard imo. Decent dps and global buff. Her s2 is kinda ehhh bc 1 use per stage