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Maybe that could come as part of an event that introduces Petropavlovsk/Marat into the game, the final Gangut class sister we need to complete the set.

Marblehead is such an underrated waifu, I'm also hoping she gets a retrifit one day.

​@@liladoodle we need her to become the ultimate gyaru.

if you want to see how that went for the IJN, take a glance at the Tone and Ise classes.

@@atpyro7920 the problem here is how IJN used these aircrafts. If I remember correctly, Ise was sunk without even having an air wing onboard, she was just on AA duty. Tone was also equipped with just recon planes, no?

@ tone/chikuma did operate light bombers, but the IJN never actually put the ises into combat outside of being bait in sho-go 1. neither ever operated aircraft, despite having similar catapult deck operations to the tones. Ise sank in port as a floating AAA battery and was scrapped the following year.

Not entirely, the early Midway concepts returned to the 8in cruiser gun, largely due to a fear of a lack of heavy cruisers for escorts, even favored by the USN pilots to an extent -they felt that they provided good enough Air defense, but had concerns of what if a force got close enough to attack the carrier with gun fire. A compromise of sort was established with the 5" 54s. As the 8" guns took up to much weight and room, the 6" DP where not ready leaving only the 5" 54's the only real choice for improved anti surface defense (over the 5" 38's), even then the twins where not available due to the cancellation of the Montanas (then Cptn. Mitscher was one of the officers that pushed for 8" guns). This requirement for heavier defenses also pushed for the inclusion for an Armored flight deck and "heavy" belt armor

her primary armament is planes, not guns (fighter slot and flex slot vs kearsarge's bb gun slot and fighter slot instead of secondary slot). she's more comparable in loadout to a CVL, but with the plane count of a 'normal' CV (4 planes per slot, total of 8, CVLs on average have 6 planes).

Her secondary largest caliber is 203mm. This is still classified as CV. Only when she get 283mm, she will be BBV.

Lexington and Saratoga have been in the game since launch though.

Good god.... I hate them hybrids in WoWs.... That's 1 ship out of the front line and less guns available.

@ It is also annoying to fight against considering that Balance on Hybrids is not Balanced as it still count as a normal ships and not considered CVs. Means you’ll get funny MM like the whole enemy team have 1 CV and 3 Hybrids while your team have 1CV and 1 Hybrid. And these drops from Hybrids tends to be better than CVs itself.

I would love an Anhalt or GK

​@@ThemightyEnterprise only as pr ships

Plan Z died when the war started. The guys in charge of designing these types of ships were better spent using their brains elsewhere.

Classic case of trying to fulfill two incompatible roles with a single unit only for it to end up being mediocre at both in practice.

Well one advantage found is that the stronger armor carriers were able to survive more torpedo hits than the lighter armored purpose built CVs. Saratoga for example ate torpedos from the IJN.

You're getting it entirely wrong. BBVs aren't meant to go up against Battleships. They are supposed to bully anything less powerful than itself into submission via armor and guns and harass anything stronger than it via the airwing. If you take a BBV into a conventional battle of battleline vs battleline you've already defeated the whole purpose of the design.

@ Maybe that's the use in theory, but it still seems significantly less useful than a baby flattop or two in the same raiding role.

@@AnonD38 the problem is you can just do the bullying aspect with just pure aircrafts as well, why bother going up close to bully weaker ships when you can do it from long range...you know like a dedicated CV? so BBV in the end is still a bad idea.

I second this and for the other ships (Like Huan Ch'ang, Chen Hai, Chi An, Fei Yuen, Hai Chi, Hai Tien, Hwah Jah, Hu Pen, Lung Wu, and Ting An). But Hai Yung is the best new girl.

I’m not particularly familiar with the Dragon Empery ship either but i’ll certainly look into it in the future.

Only one I'm aware of is No.68... I mean, Chien Wu and her being built by an Austrian-Hungarian shipyard that was commissioned by the Republic of China and was cancelled before completion because of World War I starting.

Yeah Chinese ship are really Obsecure, some of it are only available on chinese archive, but i think for chinese cruiser 68 is available because its build by austro-hungary shipyard

I'd say that Hildebrand is far more likely than Lothringen.

Pity us, the naïve ones who still wait for Nassau, Derrflinger, Rhein or Gaede.

​@@Type_0_Fighter_Model_52 i would love Nassau, Derfflinger and Rhein tbh. I also love that we have Thürigen in he game (Helgoland class)

Yeah the Royal Navy has experience with the whole idea of the battlecarrier is actually British because we did that 1st with HMS Furious

A commerce raider was literally the number one drug for the Kriegsmarine.

​@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 it's their go to, even the Kaiserliche Marine does that in ww1.

It could work, if they can build massive Dreadnought like their eastern asian cousin (fuso class and ise class for example) or just make it without dive bomber (Chitose-Chiyoda CAV type)

Yeah… It’s weird though because those Atago and Chitose skins are pretty ancient and not all that spicy by todays standards. Guess someone got caught with those 5 specifically and a complaint was made to Google play or whatever.

Not sure how you have no likes, but I changed that. Because this is the issue that people are too blind to see or refuse to see: AL is losing the identity it once had.

You misspelled "Sardegna" there. Also, HMS's last *major* event was in 2023.

@lordkfc1297 nah Sardegna will get febuary slot with cn anni going to the usn

@@vikinggamer9545 could be, but HMS has the same, if not more chances, to get one of the first 2 UR events of 2025.

@@lordkfc1297 yeah but i expect nothing for them and well the hints at the end of this event are pointing towards lexington revival and marco polo going insane again

​@lordkfc1297 Zero to Hero was an HMS event, and was in 2024. And was the event that had the Anson incident.

Surface ships rather, and this is still excluding auxiliary cruisers (11 of them that include Widder, Pinguin and Kormoran), auxiliary ships like repair ship Huascaran, icebreaker Eisbär, training sailing ship Horst Wessel (now USCGC Eagle that is still in active service as I have spoken) and fleet tender / aviso Hela whose very hull was broken up in 2022 in Crimea, and captured enemy ships like ZH1 Gerard Callenburgh My gosh, still allergic those Commanders (except moi and the devs) are to the U-boats, who are still denied their oath skins!

Still better than Unzen, who apparently is literally a footnote in a ship building request for new cruisers- she doesn't even have a blueprint to fall back on like a good chunk of Iron Blood.

@@Practitioner_of_DiogenesDoesn’t help that the Japanese destroyed nearly all prewar-and wartime records pertaining to projects and plans. Unzen is supposed to be WoWs Zao’s sister under the Cruiser 1941 project. But like how we literally got lucky with the Japanese not burning their 510mm gun documents they did have we found small amounts of information on what Zao/Unzen was.

@@timber_wulf5775 the problem with Unzen is that the design she is based on is just one of the several variants for a heavy cruiser design that never even left the drawing table. She is the prequel to paper ships😂

@ Unzen is younger than Heinrich and Adalbert though? There were a good handful of paperships added to the game prior to her.

A handful of the Royal Navy KAN-SENs so far also sported the HMCS prefix: Comet (HMCS Restigouche), Crescent (HMCS Fraser that didn't last a full month when she collided with light cruiser HMS Calcutta and sank on June 25, 1940), Cygnet (HMCS St. Laurent), Fortune (HMCS Saskatchewan), Foxhound (HMCS Qu'Appelle) and Hero (HMCS Chaudiere)

Oh for sure story wise it makes sense even if this current event felt a little bit like a bait-and-switch. Not sure I fully agree with IB and SE being the main driving force but they have each been at the centre of a story ‘arc’ and depending on where the writers decide to go it’s also liable to change.

Ehhh, the history of the ships takes precedence over the plot for many I imagine.

Well AL's story began as a pseudo-recreation of WW2, it took them like two years for them to ditch that in favor of a more original story

True, like memphis meta is a master hacker and pretty powerful, but in game she is doodoo (even if i oathed her as my first ship and basically have her at lv 120)

The meat ships are: the final boss when you fight him vs. When you unlock him as a playable character.

@@RealCtc Right, Helena meta is literally controlling the sirens and can travel between pseudo-dimensions. Hiryuu meta is literally a one man army taking out siren fleets by herself… C tier at best

Eagle Union, Iron Blood, Sakura Empire, and Royal Navy

​@@araarashinigami Supposedly, though Royal Navy doesn't get much updates, in comparison to the other 3. So really, now, it's the big 3

Having 2 UR events in the spam of a month is a horrible idea, that is why people oppose it. Also, EN is the least important server both in revenue and in players so it makes sense that we don't have a UR event when the JP anny is a month after ours.

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@@lordkfc1297 There is virtually no difference when it comes to resources spent. Saying "people think 2 URs in a short time span is a bad idea" doesn't mean it's actually a bad idea nor is it an argument. EN still drops a whole new event with completely new ships that you will spent varying amounts of cubes and coins for. If you already have to drop Gacha currency, you may as well drop it for a UR. Not only would this make the EN Anni complete, but it would also gives us an additional UR slot that could be used for any faction (unlike the JP Anni UR slot). With how much they have increase their investment for the EN Anni over the years and how they are making it bigger and bigger, a UR seems inevitable anyway. They might as well get over with it and establish the EN Anni as the 5th UR slot in a year

@@meto9552 You are quite wrong pal. But to answer your main "points": A) A regular event has much better rate-ups compared to a UR one because the UR ship has only a 1.2% chance of dropping. Also regular events are the ones people tend to skip in order to save cubes, which you need a minimum of 400 per UR event in order to guarantee the drop. Also, bullins are really limited for newer players so increasing the number of UR ships from 8(double UR events) to 9 will only make the problem worse. Not to mention that completely eliminating the rest period between URs will, again, hit newer players the hardest since they won't have time to recuperate between events. You would be forcing them to choose one of the two events. B) JP dwarfs Global in revenue, to the point that it is not even funny. There are dozens of reddit posts that compile all the revenue, month by month, since 2017 that clearly show this. In September 2024 JP made 41.100.000$ compared to Global's 18.110.000$. So you are plain wrong on both accounts.

@@meto9552 "With how much they have increase their investment for the EN Anni over the years and how they are making it bigger and bigger, a UR seems inevitable anyway. They might as well get over with it and establish the EN Anni as the 5th UR slot in a year" Not to burst your bubble but the EN anny is the one with the least effort put into it, just watch a CN or JP anniversary livestream and see for yourself xD. They are not going to break their 3 month schedule for UR events. And no, a UR for En anniversary is not inevitable at all, especially a gacha one. But you are free to delude yourself in this manner, though you will be disappointed.

This is precisely why Global doesn't have a UR event on their anniversary, we simply spend less and are thus not the priority. Something I am perfectly fine with btw.

this isnt true. JP sales declined precipitously post-pandemic, and global regularly outspents them on in game purchases currently. the only advantage JP has is merch sales, but this is largely due to shipping and distribution constraints. if products were offered abroad as conveniently as they are in Japan, the different here would fade away as well. the reality is there is no good financial reason for the favoritism Sakura receives.

Historically, Canada was part of the British Empire as a member of the Commonwealth, almost never betraying the mother Crown and thus dragged along with UK and other Commonwealth member-states.

@royasturias1784 while yes that is indeed true, during ww1 was when Canada started to distant itself from Britain and become a self sufficient country. If I'm not mistaken, it was during the 1st world war that Canada made its own navy and military seperate from the rest of the Commonwealth. While we still r apart of the Commonwealth to this day, we r also an independent country. By the end of WW2, RCN had the 3rd largest naval fleet in the world. During the 2nd world war RCN had rapidly expanded its naval fleet w ships transferred from the royal navy and US Navy. RCN had over 1,140 warships under its command during WW2. Remember that while the USA fought a war to become separate from Britain, Canada cast a vote to become independent. It was decided that Canada wud become independent while still having the benefit of being in the Commonwealth. I think this warrants RCN being added in as the 5th main faction. Even if most of the ships they get r 2nds like Laffey 2, but maybe w the new names they may have gotten. Wat we need now is to have HMCS added into the game and have a Canadian event each year that lands on Canada day.

@@baileydombroskie3046 Problems: 1. Such quantity of those warships was composed of mostly escort ships, a couple of light cruisers (of Crown Colony-class), a couple of Lend-Lease escort carriers (of Bogue-class made/converted in the USA) and zero proper capital ships. 2. Inadequate cultural distinctiveness, when the habitable provinces of Canada are basically Britain and America Lite, save Québec that is France Lite 3. A supposed combat doctrine of throwing nothing but those small warships (destroyers and below) into the grinder (Zerg-rushing) is not feasible with how the fleet set-ups work in the game proper. 4. RCN doesn't have the big bully aura if ever it goes its own way. 5. The game itself already has RCN representation in destroyers Comet, Crescent, Cygnet, Fortune, Foxhound and Hero.

@@royasturias1784 u know when u bring that up, u do make some really damned gud points. However I still believe that smaller countries like Italy that barely if at all participated during either world war and have not much more destroyers, cruisers, carriers, and battleships then Canada had don’t deserve representation as its own faction and not Canada. While Canada’s main source of important in any war has been on land, particularly on foot, and to great extent, it did indeed participate complementary in the sea supporting its allies. When I look it up on the wikia, it becomes clear that in terms of sea warfare during the world wars, Canada took it to the extremes of providing support and utility to its allies over any upfront confrontation. This cud be utilized ingame as a way to make Canada have it own separate faction while playing to its historical experience of support and utility. The HMCS ships cud be mainly focused on their support and utility such that they make up for any lack in offence or defender given the appropriate context. I’m going to be honest, reading thru all those haul types, I’m learning of new warship categories. But based on quick reading, it appears many of those types r used for less medal worthy activities. Bringing the RCN into the game proper cud make for some unique and interesting gameplay variations and ways to make fleets more specialized and interesting play patterns. The RCN cud provide much needed spice the fleetbuilding that we r lacking due to the powercreep (on both shipgirls and enemies) and design.

Forgetting about the 3 Canadian Queen Elizabeth class battleship that would be PR along with Yukon from World of Warships

Do you even play the game? In the world of Azur Lane, World War 1 and World War 2 NEVER HAPPENED. The Axis and Allies NEVER EXISTED. Why? Because the sirens invaded. The kansen were created BECAUSE of the appearance of the sirens and the energy cubes after the Tunguska impact, NOT because of WW1/WW2.

The Chinese ships are here because the factions represent the Major powers of WWII. China is often counted as one of them (I mean that's the reason why they have a permanent seat on the UN security council - so it's quite official). And designing a new logo for a faction with 10 vanguard ships is not economical.They could include them with the one of the other factions though.

They listen to CN because Cn players spend the most money on the game, simple as that.

Honestly, Polish Navy (Free or not) was more reactionary, and Poland as an independent(-ish) and sovereign nation was born again after WW1. Brazil, Sweden and Türkiye (also Ottoman Empire) has had more accumulated years of naval tradition to brag about for each country than Poland. Poland never screamed big bully armada, with the burden of many territorial vicissitudes / variations over many years.

@@lordkfc1297 Yes, but that should only affect the CN version of the game- CN crying shouldn't affect the English version of the game at all, especially not at the expense of characterization.

So HMS has it worse despite their last event, a UR one that gave them one of the best carriers in the game, being last year huh? It is not like the las mayor SE event was in 2022 right? or that they still have 0 gacha URs right? The only faction that had it worse than Sardegna was Iris.

I can't say I completely agree, but yes I find it incredibly funny that Iron Blood seems to get so many events despite having a much smaller navy than RN during WW2. Well, at least RN has Plymouth, Implacable and Unicorn (she may be "only" a retrofitted elite ship but she's damn good at her job and is basically a UR in terms of her abilities) as meta ships. Which is a good thing, because they also have two of the worst URs in the game, Drake and Warspite. And no one can forget the huge debacle that was HMS Anson, which looked NOTHING like her KGV sisters. It was so obvious that she was a reused design, probably from a sub. And now we'll probably never get to see HMS Anson because her name has been forever tainted. And RN has gotten really crappy augments too, KGV's and Victorious' barely do anything. Anyway I feel that RN is probably the most mistreated out of all the major factions, but I think Sardegna is still the worst treated faction overall. Even their first UR Napoli isn't really impressive, being a jack of all trades but master of none in a game that has 3 vanguard slots, which rewards specialization more.

@@WadeWontson Don't forget Vanguard, one of the best buffers in the game.

@@lordkfc1297 that reminds me of how bad the French had it until last year when they finally started getting proper events again which culminated in Alsace's event, something the french were long overdue for. Now the same needs to happen for Sardegna.

@@WadeWontson we can only hope

That and the sweet money they make with WoWs through their collab, plus the publicity.

PRs are largely for the player crossover, trying to draw more WoWs players to AL and vice versa. If they were meant to cover the disparity, we wouldn't have any EU ships, and we'd have gotten some of the Chinese and German ships FAR earlier. Immelman and Richtofen have been in WoWs for about 4 years now, they've had ample opportunity to fill the gap and give them a UR CV, instead we get a ship that's just as paper from gatcha.

The prediction of Littorio Mk II and Giuseppe Garibaldi Kai (conversion to missile cruiser) is still up there.