The Max ALWAYS makes me smile when I first walk into its' cargo bay and I have no idea why. However, it's out-classed by the Taurus (ESPECIALLY if you can still find the Taurus at the old $150 price point). Still, as mentioned here in the comments if CIG does what they said they'd do the FL series will be the largest ships that can fit through the small jump points. If this stays true then the Max is the king of the smaller, more multi-purpose cargo ships.
There really is something about the Max’s cargo bay thats exciting, but it’s hard to pin down haha. I think for me it reminds me of a toy truck, but the grown up space hauler version; it’s just yearning for adventure! And my hat off to those who picked the Taurus then too, some of those early ship savings were crazy! And I’d also be very curious if the Max falls within the smallest jump point size limit, or if it’s just the DUR and the rest of the line 🤔 Either way it gets me excited for jump points and Pyro in the hopefully not too distant future 🤞
Sentimental favorite for me is the FreeMax. The Freelancer "Space Trucker" commercial from way back is what lured me to SC. Seeing the FreeMax is when I fell in love. Real money purchase was the FreeMax while I always buy a Connie in game.
Taurus wins in almost every way. Cargo, firepower, shields. The Freelancer being smaller, is a bit more maneuverable and doesn't need quite so much open space for landing. In my opinion it's best feature over the Taurus is the security of the side door. It requires an animation. Door opens, you get out, door closes. There is no time for some intruder to sneak aboard like when you use a ramp or elevator.
That's an awesome point I hadn't even considered regarding the locked animation! And I agree completely, unless the Max can fit in smaller jump points, the Taurus takes the win every time!
one future consideration will be jump point travel as ships size will matter. FL Max is medium and ConTaurus is large. So as I understand it ship size will have limits on routes you can use. In a nutshell the connie will need to use longer routes than the FL-Max. I want to say, someone stated in the past the Max will be the largest ship that can navigate a small jp. But I slept since then so take that with a grain of salt
I'm sure further into Development, or release, The size will definitely be something to consider. I see people mentioning Jump Point Limitations. But there may also be things like being able to fit and squeeze into small areas on Planets, or utilize smaller Landing Platforms. There 'was' A mention in the original Freelancer trailer that it had a 'low signature'? So could also be a potentially sneaker freighter than its much larger competition.
Don't forget that with recent updates, your shield cannot stay up while you spool your quantum engine. Hull integrity is a crucial decision factor when attempting to flee.
I didn't realize how beefy the Taurus is, will have to try it eventually. Usually I get my ships with auec in game, it's nice that the max is still comparable while being more affordable. Great review though, it helps a lot seeing similar ships side by side.
Got a Taurus in my fleet today, upgraded from a fury to get that LTI, lol. It might become a Andromeda next month but I’ll see how much it grows on me. I don’t see myself keeping it because I use the C2 as a hauler so I think the Andromeda will serve me better but we will see.
Congrats on your pickup! And those are some great points, and excellent food for thought! I think given your lineup the Andromeda could fill an excellent role alongside the C2 over the Taurus as well, but the Taurus could still live on with a ton of utility in your fleet; its definitely a hard choice!
I love the taurus because you can take it bounty hunting with its decent guns and huge shields then gobble up all the containers of contraband the bad guys drop with the beam.
I currently have the MIS and DUR.. I upgraded MISC to the Prospector, sold the MAX to upgrade an LTI Hover-quad to the DUR... I hope to see the Exploration gameplay soon.. .. I too, still, get a smile when I walk onto the rear cargo hatch of any of the Freelancers, I get this feeling of "I am home, and I am safe" . Still deciding whether to sell the MIS to get the Taurus or maybe C1. And buyback the MAX when they "Gold Pass" it 😉
I think that's a fantastic descriptor for the Freelancers, and an excellent testament to the ship designers (along with the original Serenity design from Firefly)!
There's ONE thing you didn't took into account, Size for Jump Points. The Free MAX can take S1, the Taurus will have to use S2, so you'll have to take a "longer" route.
I was hoping you'd compare ground vehicle accommodation and convenience. Both ships can carry an Ursa, but it seems the MAX has better utility for picking up salvage along side carrying the Ursa.
I would say that the max and Taurus is in two different price classes, the max for 2.2mil* and Taurus for 3.3mil*, if u already grinded a extra 1.2mil* why not grind a extra 1.4mil* to get too the Caterpillar. *aUEC Why I say is, that Taurus in my opinion is better but it's more expensive so price is important part too.
Vici you forgot the big importent stuff. their size, and their ability to use small wormholes, the max should be able to take even small wormholes where the Taurus should be restricted to medium and up... unless they chage that part, i doubt they will... So the Max will be able to take short routes as the "biggest" small ship in the game atm
havent heard that the MSR could use small jump points. But if you look at it the MSR have 2xmedium shield gen. The Connie have an Large shield gen. so there is a clear differnce, in the class of ships. But again i havent heard that the MSR can use small jump points. If you look at it this way, if the Connie can use small jump points then why cant the Cat then, and if so, what is the meaning with differnt sieces jump points... It make no sence if so. So maybe your right, but i do firmly belive that the Connie cannot use small jump points @@bezdownunder5481
I absolutely LOVE the MAX, it was my first actual cargo ship. But the Taurus is hands down the better ship, it has more cargo capacity, a more convenient cargo hold for vehicle loading and better combat stats. If you want a multi role ship that dose a good job in most cases, the MAX is great but the Taurus is excellent.
I see in comments most people saying that Taurus is better than Free Max. Outside the fact that security inside Max should be better thanks to better protection against sneak people. But noone here is saying that Taurus is at least 50$ more expensive than Max. And in-game, Free Max is around 2 millions and Taurus cost 3 millions. All is depending what people want to do with their money. And noone should forget that these ships are not done to make war but defend themselves sometimes.
Those are great points and the price difference is a strong consideration between the too. And I agree, neither are front-line warships although the Taurus can contend with its pilot firepower and size 3 large shields!
Gracias por tus valoraciones tengo la freelance Max y al oírte debatir de uno y de otro la verda que me prefiero gastarme esos 50€ para ponerme al mando de la Taurus gracias y muy bien video... As sopesado mis dudas 😅😅😅😅
I've been using the max to run refined ore to a tdd. Problem is, it can't carry two mole loads w/only 120 scu, the Taurus can. Thinking about upgrading? PVP is not a concern so far.
@@ViciDeum Thanks for the reply. I went w/a C2 and love it! I can keep my M50 in front (for quick commutes) and still fit at least 6 loads of refined ore per trip.
Seeing as the MSR can also use the smallest jump point... One should expect the connie to also fit.. The Connie T smashes the max... Then smuggling capacity Connie T.. Large shield Connie. T... More fire power Connie T ... Connie T is simply better.
They've stated that the Freelancer series is the largest that will fit in the smallest jump points, but it's definitely all up to speculation at this point! If it is the MSR, then you're absolutely right and the MSR will definitely suffer for its smaller shields!
I like the Lancer because it kinda sucks. But I think being a trucker would suck too, so it's more immersive. Conny is more like a HEMTT with a roof gun.
Although I love the Serenity-inspired design of the Freelancer, I have to agree! There's just something about the Connie's silhouette and those rear engines that just screams sci-fi fun!
@@ViciDeum oh didnt know, thats good. Still have to get the stuff the the back storage, which is only accesible through a door if i remember correctly.
Im seriously considering downgrading from a Taurus, I really dont get targetted by pirates that much, and the cargo bay is a pain in the ass on the Taurus.@@ViciDeum
The Constellation Class is OP in therms of PVP. The Regular Freelancer and especcialy MAX feels very slugish in Combat. Its not really better in therms of Accelittion or maneuverability in comparison to the Constellation Taurus/Andromeda Class. Its like, the Freelancer is 10% Faster, but 90% less Durable. Its a Joke. Vs Pirats i feel much more Safe in a Taurus then in a Freelancer Max. Eighter the Freelancer need a Speed/maneuverability Buff or the Constellation Class a slight Speed nerf. Last weekend i Fightet with a Reliant Kore (Light Fighter with Speed of a Medium) vs a Constellation Taurus. I have done 80% of my Power to my Shields and Guns to Fight Back, and only 20% on my Thrusters. But with this, i never Catched the Taurus. Everytime i got under/behind her, the Taurus Booster Straigt Forward and before i turned around, the Taurus was 1500m away and out of my Gunrange. That happend 3-4 Times in a Row and then i Explode. I never damaged her Shields really. I never Lost Against a Freelancer Max in my Lightfighter.
The Max ALWAYS makes me smile when I first walk into its' cargo bay and I have no idea why. However, it's out-classed by the Taurus (ESPECIALLY if you can still find the Taurus at the old $150 price point). Still, as mentioned here in the comments if CIG does what they said they'd do the FL series will be the largest ships that can fit through the small jump points. If this stays true then the Max is the king of the smaller, more multi-purpose cargo ships.
There really is something about the Max’s cargo bay thats exciting, but it’s hard to pin down haha. I think for me it reminds me of a toy truck, but the grown up space hauler version; it’s just yearning for adventure!
And my hat off to those who picked the Taurus then too, some of those early ship savings were crazy! And I’d also be very curious if the Max falls within the smallest jump point size limit, or if it’s just the DUR and the rest of the line 🤔 Either way it gets me excited for jump points and Pyro in the hopefully not too distant future 🤞
i had both ships and they are great but upgrade from MAX to Taurus is natural progres in trading gameloop.
Congrats on your pickup! The Taurus really is an excellent upgrade from the Max!
Sentimental favorite for me is the FreeMax. The Freelancer "Space Trucker" commercial from way back is what lured me to SC. Seeing the FreeMax is when I fell in love. Real money purchase was the FreeMax while I always buy a Connie in game.
Congrats on your pickup! And the stylings/feel of the Freelancer line will always have a special place in my heart!
Taurus wins in almost every way. Cargo, firepower, shields. The Freelancer being smaller, is a bit more maneuverable and doesn't need quite so much open space for landing. In my opinion it's best feature over the Taurus is the security of the side door. It requires an animation. Door opens, you get out, door closes. There is no time for some intruder to sneak aboard like when you use a ramp or elevator.
That's an awesome point I hadn't even considered regarding the locked animation! And I agree completely, unless the Max can fit in smaller jump points, the Taurus takes the win every time!
As much as I try other ships for multi-role fun, so far I keep coming back to the Taurus! It's usefulness is often underestimated.
The Taurus is one of those ships you can't help but love and find a reason to fly!
one future consideration will be jump point travel as ships size will matter. FL Max is medium and ConTaurus is large. So as I understand it ship size will have limits on routes you can use. In a nutshell the connie will need to use longer routes than the FL-Max. I want to say, someone stated in the past the Max will be the largest ship that can navigate a small jp. But I slept since then so take that with a grain of salt
Yea I'm really curious if they keep the jump points as you mentioned. If so, the Max would have a tremendous utility with those smaller jump points!
I'm sure further into Development, or release, The size will definitely be something to consider. I see people mentioning Jump Point Limitations. But there may also be things like being able to fit and squeeze into small areas on Planets, or utilize smaller Landing Platforms. There 'was' A mention in the original Freelancer trailer that it had a 'low signature'? So could also be a potentially sneaker freighter than its much larger competition.
Those are fair points, and I definitely look forward to seeing some more of those differences expanded in the future!
If you are only hauling cargo then the Taurus. ROC mining then the max. Jacking multiple trades, I lean towards the max.
I tend to use the Taurus for everything, especially after its tractor beam was introduced. But the Max is still a solid choice!
Don't forget that with recent updates, your shield cannot stay up while you spool your quantum engine. Hull integrity is a crucial decision factor when attempting to flee.
I picked a Phoenix and store 3x Mirai Fury in its bay. So its now a small cap. ship with 4 snub fighters :D
Hahaha, that's an impressive pairing and congrats on your micro-carrier!
I didn't realize how beefy the Taurus is, will have to try it eventually. Usually I get my ships with auec in game, it's nice that the max is still comparable while being more affordable.
Great review though, it helps a lot seeing similar ships side by side.
Thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed this! And definitely checkout the Taurus when you get the chance, it's ridiculously tanky by comparison!
Definitely tankier but so sluggish especially in atmosphere.
Got a Taurus in my fleet today, upgraded from a fury to get that LTI, lol. It might become a Andromeda next month but I’ll see how much it grows on me. I don’t see myself keeping it because I use the C2 as a hauler so I think the Andromeda will serve me better but we will see.
Congrats on your pickup! And those are some great points, and excellent food for thought! I think given your lineup the Andromeda could fill an excellent role alongside the C2 over the Taurus as well, but the Taurus could still live on with a ton of utility in your fleet; its definitely a hard choice!
Constellation Taurus hands down
I agree completely!
I love the taurus because you can take it bounty hunting with its decent guns and huge shields then gobble up all the containers of contraband the bad guys drop with the beam.
And its even better with 3.23 having 4xS5! The Taurus is honestly such a sleeper, but arguably the best medium sized multi role ship in the game!
I currently have the MIS and DUR.. I upgraded MISC to the Prospector, sold the MAX to upgrade an LTI Hover-quad to the DUR...
I hope to see the Exploration gameplay soon.. .. I too, still, get a smile when I walk onto the rear cargo hatch of any of the Freelancers, I get this feeling of "I am home, and I am safe" .
Still deciding whether to sell the MIS to get the Taurus or maybe C1. And buyback the MAX when they "Gold Pass" it 😉
I think that's a fantastic descriptor for the Freelancers, and an excellent testament to the ship designers (along with the original Serenity design from Firefly)!
There's ONE thing you didn't took into account, Size for Jump Points. The Free MAX can take S1, the Taurus will have to use S2, so you'll have to take a "longer" route.
That's very true! If they keep the sizing as they've mentioned, the Freelancer will definitely get a big boost in utility!
Yet they said MSR can fit a small jump point which if it can says the connie should have no issues.
@@bezdownunder5481 We'll see how it goes :)
I was hoping you'd compare ground vehicle accommodation and convenience. Both ships can carry an Ursa, but it seems the MAX has better utility for picking up salvage along side carrying the Ursa.
Thankfully you can carry the Ursa in the Taurus as well, along with another ground vehicle (or just keep the space open for hauling)!
@ViciDeum yeah, after my post I tried the Taurus, which can easily store two Ursa or a mix of salvaged items.
I would say that the max and Taurus is in two different price classes, the max for 2.2mil* and Taurus for 3.3mil*, if u already grinded a extra 1.2mil* why not grind a extra 1.4mil* to get too the Caterpillar.
*aUEC
Why I say is, that Taurus in my opinion is better but it's more expensive so price is important part too.
I'd personally prefer the Taurus over either the Max or the Cat, given its soloability and pilot firepower!
Vici you forgot the big importent stuff. their size, and their ability to use small wormholes, the max should be able to take even small wormholes where the Taurus should be restricted to medium and up... unless they chage that part, i doubt they will... So the Max will be able to take short routes as the "biggest" small ship in the game atm
That's a fantastic point, being able to use small wormholes would dramatically increase the versatility of the Max!
They already said MSR could use small jump points too so Connie T is small enough it would appear.
havent heard that the MSR could use small jump points.
But if you look at it the MSR have 2xmedium shield gen.
The Connie have an Large shield gen.
so there is a clear differnce, in the class of ships.
But again i havent heard that the MSR can use small jump points.
If you look at it this way, if the Connie can use small jump points then why cant the Cat then, and if so, what is the meaning with differnt sieces jump points... It make no sence if so.
So maybe your right, but i do firmly belive that the Connie cannot use small jump points
@@bezdownunder5481
I absolutely LOVE the MAX, it was my first actual cargo ship. But the Taurus is hands down the better ship, it has more cargo capacity, a more convenient cargo hold for vehicle loading and better combat stats. If you want a multi role ship that dose a good job in most cases, the MAX is great but the Taurus is excellent.
I completely agree! The Max is a fantastic ship, but since the introduction of the Taurus it just doesn't have the same performance!
The shields are a bit misleading. The MAX's shield HP is split between the two faces, and the Taurus' are split between the 4.
While they are split, the Taurus's larger pool and multiple facings provide significantly more protection!
Do you have a place online somewhere you keep track of all these scores?
Just the google docs with my scripts haha
I see in comments most people saying that Taurus is better than Free Max. Outside the fact that security inside Max should be better thanks to better protection against sneak people.
But noone here is saying that Taurus is at least 50$ more expensive than Max. And in-game, Free Max is around 2 millions and Taurus cost 3 millions.
All is depending what people want to do with their money. And noone should forget that these ships are not done to make war but defend themselves sometimes.
Those are great points and the price difference is a strong consideration between the too. And I agree, neither are front-line warships although the Taurus can contend with its pilot firepower and size 3 large shields!
Gracias por tus valoraciones tengo la freelance Max y al oírte debatir de uno y de otro la verda que me prefiero gastarme esos 50€ para ponerme al mando de la Taurus gracias y muy bien video... As sopesado mis dudas 😅😅😅😅
Con gusto! Creo que la Taurus es uno de los mejories que puedes comrar en todo Star Citizen!
I've been using the max to run refined ore to a tdd. Problem is, it can't carry two mole loads w/only 120 scu, the Taurus can. Thinking about upgrading? PVP is not a concern so far.
I think in that case the Taurus would be perfect for you!
@@ViciDeum Thanks for the reply. I went w/a C2 and love it! I can keep my M50 in front (for quick commutes) and still fit at least 6 loads of refined ore per trip.
Honestly you can’t go wrong with either.
They're both great ships!
Taurus has 24 size *2 missle rack.
Apologies, you’re absolutely right!
I think as a starter you should get the freelancer max and later on upgrade to Taurus
Not a bad path if you’ve got the extra cash; otherwise the Titan is hard to beat at its price!
With lifts bugged and ability to squeeze through jumps, I will keep the Maxxx for now. Simple. (My Connie is a great supplement however)
The Max is a great ship that just gets the job done! But even with its bugs, Connies will always have a place in my fleet!
@@ViciDeum Good man 👍🏾
Max the side door out weighs any advantage Taurus has in extra cargo size.
The side door is nice but I raise you the Taurus' twin airlocks!
Seeing as the MSR can also use the smallest jump point... One should expect the connie to also fit.. The Connie T smashes the max... Then smuggling capacity Connie T.. Large shield Connie. T... More fire power Connie T ... Connie T is simply better.
They've stated that the Freelancer series is the largest that will fit in the smallest jump points, but it's definitely all up to speculation at this point! If it is the MSR, then you're absolutely right and the MSR will definitely suffer for its smaller shields!
I like the Lancer because it kinda sucks. But I think being a trucker would suck too, so it's more immersive. Conny is more like a HEMTT with a roof gun.
I agree, and I want to love the Freelancer line more but it just falls a bit short imo!
Constellations just look 200% better than the Freelancers
Although I love the Serenity-inspired design of the Freelancer, I have to agree! There's just something about the Connie's silhouette and those rear engines that just screams sci-fi fun!
Freelancer looks way better
With manuel loading the max wil become way easier to load than the taurus
The Taurus has an underslung tractor beam which will make loading significantly easier!
@@ViciDeum oh didnt know, thats good. Still have to get the stuff the the back storage, which is only accesible through a door if i remember correctly.
@@janschmid281 but that would be a smuggling hold and additional game loop on top.
Im seriously considering downgrading from a Taurus, I really dont get targetted by pirates that much, and the cargo bay is a pain in the ass on the Taurus.@@ViciDeum
The Constellation Class is OP in therms of PVP. The Regular Freelancer and especcialy MAX feels very slugish in Combat. Its not really better in therms of Accelittion or maneuverability in comparison to the Constellation Taurus/Andromeda Class. Its like, the Freelancer is 10% Faster, but 90% less Durable. Its a Joke. Vs Pirats i feel much more Safe in a Taurus then in a Freelancer Max.
Eighter the Freelancer need a Speed/maneuverability Buff or the Constellation Class a slight Speed nerf.
Last weekend i Fightet with a Reliant Kore (Light Fighter with Speed of a Medium) vs a Constellation Taurus. I have done 80% of my Power to my Shields and Guns to Fight Back, and only 20% on my Thrusters.
But with this, i never Catched the Taurus. Everytime i got under/behind her, the Taurus Booster Straigt Forward and before i turned around, the Taurus was 1500m away and out of my Gunrange.
That happend 3-4 Times in a Row and then i Explode. I never damaged her Shields really. I never Lost Against a Freelancer Max in my Lightfighter.
I completely agree and think your experience captures the difference perfectly! It's the reason I most often fly ships with size 3 large shields!
hate the visibility
Struts vs a mail slit, they definitely leave a lot to offer!
Surprise surprise.
It's hard to beat the Taurus!
Ohh god no docked ship in the back for lame storage 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
But 6 SCU of shielded storage for all your smuggling needs 😉!