Can You “Fall Off” As a Legend? Clifford “T.I” Harris! Stunted Growth Music
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- 3 time grammy award winner, 11 studio albums, 7 of them went gold or platinum and top 5 on the US Billboard charts, a plethora of #1 hits, yet when you look at his career in totality, it can’t help but beg the question, “Can you fall off after reaching legendary status in music”. There’s no question T.I was an important artist in rap history, not to mention what he’s done for southern hip hop, Atlanta in particular as one of the pioneers of trap music that was extremely popular from the early 2000s all the way to the mid 2010s. T.I’s artistry has also expanded to acting, hosting and dialogue, making him not only important to the landscape of hip hop, but to urban culture as well. In no way can anyone fix their mouths to say T.I had a disappointing career or didn’t meet expectations, even exceeding them in longevity and social relevance 20+ years in. But if you are on the side of the argument that holds each artist to the standard they set for themselves with their talent, timing, ability to be marketed to multiple markets and opportunity, then I can understand you saying T.I fell off right after his most successful album in his catalogue “Paper Trail”. T.I is still a legend in the game, but even legends could’ve had a better career with the gifts they were given, had certain things not happened. Can You “Fall Off” As a Legend? Clifford “T.I” Harris! Stunted Growth Music
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Great career, just fell off toward the end after 10+ years of success. I can see why people say since Paper Trail, he hasn't been the same. Salute though. Legend
Have to agree. He had a legendary run though.. can't take that from him. Him and Ludacris had a great great run.
Everybody has a peak, T.I. Kanye West, 50 Cent and the like. Can't stay at the top forever but as long as you leave your mark while you're there, I say he was successful in his mission.
A reach
Don’t forget nelly
Brother now u are Bugging lol excuse my new york slang lol
Been in the game for over 20 years? Dude ain't feel off. He a whole legend.
This seems more like someone just hating on TIP.
I think fall off as in- fell off of being a top popular rapper..(most careers have ebs and flows)...He is a certified legend & music changes..
I never saw ti as a fall off but just an artist who along with the other artists of his era just ran their course dude is definitely a legend in the game so it’s not like he has anything to prove honestly
I don’t think tip fell off, it’s just that his wave of rappers already had their turn at the top already.
BINGO!!!🎯🎯🎯
I agree. But I do think his reputation as a legend has blemishes. The activism is great but he's been known to do a lot of cringy shit over the years.
FACTS
That's about accurate
@@abasi-dominiquerawlings1470 yep, tip already had his run at the top already, now when it comes to trap music, it’s our turn. rappers such as DaBaby Lil baby Polo G, Young Thug, and other modern rappers from Atlanta, are keeping trap music alive. also Pop music is also using trap music as well.
You can't fall off if you were a legend. it's a part of history
100% TI fell off. Social Media damaged his image. He comes across incredibly corny and a superficial tryhard.
@@blacknetsmedI ain't gon lie I agree with you, it's crazy how he changed so much, social media Definitely brung him down fr that definitely fucked up his image, I been saying that shit
Tip had a hell of a run. With him keep going to jail kinda derailed his career starting in 2008. But he really did his thing and left a big legacy for himself.
He had a good run from 2004-2009 (06-09 was his highest a close 2 behind Wayne even though I liked him more than Wayne)
T.I. Never fell off mentally he grew as a man speaking proper English becoming an activist and becoming a family man as a rapper that can have an affect towards music and record sells cause not all but fans don’t wanna see rappers grow
Edit that bs again. I guess you think that Michael Eric Dyson speaks proper English??? That's word salad bs. Same as Ti. Also, you forgot to say becoming a (democratic) activist. Because all he does is support democratic policies/issues, talking points, etc. No one wants to hear a street partisan politician as a rapper. The only s8&& that grew about TI is his nose. Because he's a li@r, etc
Nahh he fell off fam , he wasn’t the same after PaperTrail
Kinda like Lil Wayne after Carter 4, he could never get that magic back
@@herbertdavis82 the AI comparison was spot on ...both are definate legends and changed the game in their professions but slipped up a few times, had theyd not slipped, both would be in top 3 in their fields
Speak proper English you don't read much huh?
You trippin go look at the views on his last few features
Man my eyes started to tear up on the first 30 seconds. 😢
That was a good time period for rap.
His sound and swag was unmatched. STILL IS
Aside from a few examples there isn't much longevity in Rap. Ti started out on fire then he cooled off mostly due to his prison stints. He ventured in other avenues such as business, & films. He came in got what he came to get and kept it moving.
My favorite rapper as a kid. He was snapping from Trap Muzik to Paper Trail non stop
he actually made trap muzik that was good and had a good message you can break down his messages throughout, a definate trend setter
Every word
He was one of the biggest rappers from 2006-2008 I remember watching his Live Your Life music video premier on BET in 2008
Exactly right there with Wayne they ran them years but I'd add 09 to it by 2010 and that gun charge ti still very relevant but I feel like he wasn't as big (same with Wayne) but I am not a human being was bigger than no mercy so by 2011-12 ti was slowly becoming not as big and around 2015-16 music wise I'd say he cooled down hell most rappers do Rick Ross, Jeezy, Gucci, etc.
No he wasn’t he was poppin longer than two years
04-14. 10 years of hits. Dont short change him
@@Lynn_Shae0915 I’m saying that was his PEAK
04-08
I wouldn’t say he fell off, but going to prison at the peak of his popularity didn’t help. The music has always been solid though.
nah he had a 9 year reign, he outlasted most rappers that came from the mid-2000's, just because he not doing music anymore doesn't mean he fell off, he decided to branch off into other ventures, and don't forget he had Grand Hustle Records where he was managing other acts including Pimp Squad Click and movies ATL, American Gangster and Takers. and a reality show with Tiny that lasted damn near 7 years.
He's up there with the greats as far as I'm concerned. your assessment is wrong.
Can’t Say It’s A Fall Off, He Did All He Had To In Music
really tho,, he took it further than most expected ,,he can rest easily
@@thefirefactory7053 100%
Not everyone is supposed to have 2 decade long runs at the top. Others influence the game and leave. That’s their role
He really didn't fall off, the sound of trap changed and he didn't fit in that new sound
I still fuck with T.I I think his time just passed and instead of trying to ride a wave he just moved on and found new avenues to get money.
Say what ya want but down here in Georgia the legacy will live on no matter what,🤟🏿🤟🏿🤟🏿
Exactly I'm metro atl and he's a legend in these streets
From the north all the way down here to South Georgia
Nah, just yall in tha A.
The rest of us Georgians got small town heros who got mo respectable legacies to uphold than t.i.ps.
T.i ain't have no choice but to go pop cuz his "hard,gangsta" image was ruined.😂 still respect yall in the A tho.
@@happypeople3746 I mean know it's Field Mob, Camouflage but come on bruh.Ion care about his personal life the music still hit.
I don’t think a legend can fall off. It’s more his time is up and the new generations time is now. Once when you reach the top and it’s solidified then it’s time to move on anyway like a Jay Z. Everyone falls off. Not really in skill but more of the music changes and like athletics rap is a young man’s game. A old TI is not a sex symbol like yesteryear. He a old uncle type now. He a big homie. He shouldn’t be compared to todays landscape
Musically T.I never fell off, I just think his time came and went. A new era was ushered in.
he didnt fall off, music just isnt the same. his era wasnt made for lackluster gimmicky music.
Ti has done some weird stuff over the past few years that makes it seem like his career was stunt. However, ti had a 5-6 album run of gold, platinum, and multi platinum albums. From 03-09, tip was a top 5 rapper in the industry.
2012 too. And had a big hit in 2014.
T.I is one of the few who to this day I can pop his joint on during a workout session and the vibe is still fresh.
KING is still a great album. Personally my favorite project from him
I clicked on this video "expeditiously"
😂😂😂 Man, you’re funny 😂😂😂
Still on the best imo especially in 2000s dude got an immaculate discography and an exquisite flow smooth as butter. Even in the 2010s he had sole solid shit. But musically he hasn’t hit the same partly cuz I think thats not his focus no more. Mostly business shhit but the daughter comments screwed his image.
He's one of the best MCs ever imo. Great albums
Hell yeah
2006 to 2008 he was on top Top Back and Hurt was my favorite songs still listen to Paper Trail everyone in awhile
Hey stunted growth I really appreciate your content on both channel's, but if you don't mind could you do a nappy roots, dead prez, bone thugs n harmony episodes? appreciate it man.
[Fr fr] T.I. is in same boat as Eminem as far as havin' made [multiple] classic albums & (ppl) havin' to be a fan to enjoy his music... His legacy is cemented already.
T.I. ain't the same man he was when he came out. He had to grow. If T.I. stayed the same person this stunted growth episode would have been about him not changing with the times. Everyone growth gets stunted simply because they had their time and the New Era taking first place.
Paper Trail is where I become a T.I. stan. When "What up Whats Happnin" dropped I shit you not he was on fire
T. I is solidified.
Trap Muzik
Urban Legend
King
Ti vs Tip
Paper Trail all are great albums
🔥🔥🔥
T.I. definitely wom the “championship” in 2006 when the album came out, he was on top of the world. He had the top album and movie at the same TIME. Also both his last two albums sold over 20k the first. The sales you looking at pure first week sales not total including streaming.
Yh thats a solid fact, even though his last few albums done low sales, the majority was hardcore fans buying the album in full
TI is cemented 🏆
He had his run... His spot is solidified
Mannnnnnn u tripping with this one but I get it!😂
Tl HAS NOT FALLEN OFF, HE'S STILL HARD WITH THEM BARS AND WILL REMIND YOU IF HE HAS TO!!!👍🏼👑
2001- TI predicted his ascension on the last verse of the song "I'm Serious." Pretty much did everything he said in that verse.
IYKYK.
Top 5 from the South.
Facts. Who would you say are the top 5 of the South?
Thats one of my favorite TI verses. I felt that shit when he said "Bitch, I'm serious!" at the end of that verse
@@smokeyfizzle FACTS!!
@@popplug3384 Dang you got me on the spot. Uhh...3 Stacks, Wayne, TI, Phonte, Dro.
@Silky Santiago Ludacris should be in your top five. He better than Dro.
Ti will always be one of my favorites
If it’s 06-08 and you asked somebody who the best talk rapper was they would most likely say Wayne, T.I., or Kanye. 50 cents run was losing its energy around that time and Eminem and Jay Z were already household names.
Do one on C-Murder next.
The name alone Jammed him up 😢 that alone is a stunted growth
I would say TIP definitely was a champion and if you gonna compare him to a basketball player i would say he was like Isiah Thomas. Was a person who dominated era but injuries plagued his end of his career.
Here we go
Outside of the heinous allegations that goes on with him and his wife, T.i. is hands the best rapper when it comes to flows and beat selection. I think more people who love the non mainstream southern sound would absolutely love listening to some of his unheard of songs.
And those allegations were found to be bullshit. Fortunately sex w/ women isn't illegal lol
@@slvtre6728 They illegally drugged and raped them
@Sunset overdrive 2 when? you're a liar and that's sorry lol. I hope someone puts some shit on your name so you can see how it feels. Shit gone be funny asl. Im going to laugh now tho. That's if you even pan out #Karma 🤣🤣🤣
Honest opinion on TI & I grew up idolizing him
Going to prison in 09 kinda killed his momentum then being released a year later, only to go back a year later made it worst. Trouble Man was arguably his last project that had quality to it, in my opinion but I think the one that also affected his career was him not working with DJ Toomp & we all know that Toomp gave TI that legendary Trap Muzik sound that we became fans of. What U Know, You Don't Know Me, 24s, Dope Boyz, or even Bankhead. Toomp single handedly birthed the legend we all grew to love in TI but NOTHING affected his career more than having 3 #1 singles in 09 with Live Ya Life, Whatever You Life, & Dead & Gone then he went off to prison back to back which made the momentum slow down. Music probably doesn't sound the same anymore cause he has nothing left to prove. He help pioneer trap music with Jeezy & Gucci as well as put help put Atlanta on the Hip Hop map to let folks know that mfs in the south can spit & be as lyrical as the likes of Jay Z or Nas
Paper Trail came out in 2008
I’ll go devils advocate. TI was in his 30s making those pop albums and also had been in the rap game approaching 2 decades. I feel a certain way about the snitching, but that’s for a different conversation.
However, there comes a time where I just don’t really believe you’re still trapping and moving bricks or yayo. It’s why space entered the chat with Jay Z and Dame Dash. Jay considered Dame bad for business for where he was envisioning himself to go/be.
When you get a seat at the table with the people that are really cutting the checks, Jay and TI changed their tunes. There’s staying true to the hood and hood money, but then there’s the generational wealth and the icon piece. They just moved up a level to have a different seat at the table.
The video brother. Always appreciate these. Props from Connecticut
Dope**
He didn't fall off, he grew up and evolved. Most of these kids who are fans of this rap generation were too young or not even born to appreciate his greatness. Most of T.I's fans have grown up with him. And he still has a big album coming up. He didn't fall off, people nowadays have just grown wack and soft. People are very lame these days.
T.I. never fell off, his albums probably didn't sell as much after Paper Trail but he still had good hit singles (example: About The Money song with Young Thug)! He was still on the radio throughout the 2010's with a few songs (Money Talk, Dope, etc.)! The landscape of music changed because it was all about downloads before streaming became accessible for artists to make money. Plus the business of rap is targeting the youth, by the 2010s, the youth wanted to be like Chief Keef, Migos & a few others, T.I. wasn't influential to the generation under us. He may of experience different trails and tribulations but he always made a way to stay relevant.
He changed his flow that was it for me trying to rap fast 🚫🚫🚫
he was rapping fast on the "i'm serious" album
@@kingbrahma5005 I’m aware of that but at this point in his career he no longer had that rawness after the tv and all the allegations..the one syllable fast rapping is just too drawn out for me 🥱
I swear
TI's side gigs (being an activist and being a comic) plus his accusations of working with the police crushed him
@@dolo_ren He never snitched he took responsibility for his wrong doings with guns after he lost his best friend bro.
Those snitching allegations really stunted his growth..
The A.I. & T.I. comparison is spot on.
T.I definitely is a Urban Legend in the Hip Hop/ Rap industry 🎯🔥💯🙏🏿
….hard to grow publicly. and to have to stand on things you said in your 20s at 40+
Right?!?! It just no longer makes sense. You’re most likely a man with a family and grandkids. I’m a few years younger than TI, and the last thing I want to hear a 40 year old rapping about is pushing bricks. People clowned Ice T too when he joined Law and Order. Guess what, he’s been collecting a very steady paycheck for 20 years. He’s 65 years old, what is he going to look like rapping about gun violence and pimping hoes. Talk about looking like a 🤡🤡
T.i. is a legend
ay, STUNTED, this video Should get u on Vlad or Ak. u that GUY bro!
street rap was dead in 09/10 with the emergences of Drake, autotuned, and rappers doing more singing than rapping. That hurt T.I in a major way artistically. He went pop to adjust to the new pop friendly era
On point analysis
Dope video as always. You should do Charli Baltimore!
that lil area between 04 & 08 was HIS. I still love Urban Legend. Ive seen him 3 times in concert & he killed it each time.
Good video.
Legends live forever
I mean rappers and musicians in general popularity/longevity in the spotlight is anywhere between 2-5 years, so if you have a career anywhere past that, that’s a hell of a feat. T.I. Had a career not many people can claim and was able to branch off to do side hustles, create a music label with multiple rap prodigies , is connected as one of the founders of Trap rap and still be a notable name in the game to this day. So he didn’t fall off or have any stunted growth. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. Dude made his name in the game.
Stunted growth! Are you out of your mind! How dear you put "THE KING OF THE SOUTH" on this bro?! IN I am subscriber.
He made one on Lil Wayne too. It is what it is.
Ok now you just saying anything. TI ain’t fall off, he had his shine when it was his turn, times have changed, the landscape of music has changed, this ain’t ‘06 no more. Are you gonna do one saying Jay Z fell off as well? Everybody can’t be on top all the time, TI was on top when it was his time, plus he turned to reality tv and other ventures. TI ain’t fall off, he’s cemented his place in music. I think you just put out things just to put them out sometimes. T.I., like 50 cent, Ludacris, Dmx, Ja rule, etc none fell off, they paid they dues and moved on
Ima watch to see your reasons cause t.i. forever a legend
He Fell Off ExpediTIously ……. 👀
Man, you’re funny too 😂😂😂
Can you do Lucacris ?
👆🏽
You were right on just about everything
I knew this one was going to be divisive among the viewers. You knew it was going to be that. Even though i wasn't a huge fan of him, I even had an album or two from him (Trap Musik and Paper Trail) T.I had it on lock at that time. I got your point though. It was a good case to state. Him and Luda are two people you dont want to believe fell off.
He killed his verse on that JD and curren$y album
T.I Never FELL OFF. Lets not do this!!
Yo T.I. never fell off, this man still drop dimes to this day.
Paper Trail was the last T.I. album I bought
Reaching hard with this one. If TI's growth was stunted, so was Wayne, JayZ and every hot rapper.
Paper Trail wasn't in 2012 though, it dropped in 2008.
(I'm back) in 09 is the last T.I song I really rock wit. We were listening to Gucci, Jeezy, Yo Gotti, and Boosie & Webbie at that time.
Ti won a Grammy with Robin Thicke
He talks like he thinks he's smart. He's learnt some long words but doesn't know what to do with them!
10 Albums he ain’t fall off, he just grew up. You can say that about Gucci Mane, Jeezy and Luda as well
T.I. is the shit! As someone from the south that dude was HUGE down here back in the day. I dont think id say he fell off, he just cant stay tf outta trouble.
That snitch rumors kill his career then the music rap game changes then he just got his prime when he drop "no mercy album" 😂🔥🔥💯💯
My top 5
Great vid.. couldn't of said it better.. down to the A.I comparison.. two of my favs at 1 point... dope vid lol.. rs...but by PaperTrail he was already commercial... i get it tho.. good points, i agree...
TI one of my favorite MCs. Grand Hussle Pimp !
TIP a Legend n The Game Fr Fr
He did his thang point blank he had a hella of a career n still can do better than most he good
Tbh Labels kept merging from ‘04-’12. When Spotify came to America it was kinda too late and records labels were switching to digital releases. Many 2000s artists eventually declined by the next decade.
at one point tip was the jay-z of the south ..📈
Imagine how different Hip-Hop would be if we supported Rich Boy, he was an unrefined more limited T.I.
Idk I only heard one song by him other than throw some D's on it can't remember it
He the police. I don’t take him serious
T.I been acting really corny lately but I wouldn't go as far to call him police. He may supply some info to get out of a jam. Who he get locked up for him to be on par with being police?
Your reputation can definitely be tarnished but never erased
Will you do rapper's Kool Moe Dee and big daddy Kane please ?
Ha! “The urban community tends to wants their gangsta rappers either dumb, dead or in jail.” So true, and sad.
I don’t know if you did a video on Philly Most Wanted already if not can you
FELL OFF?😂😂😂 STOP IT!!!! HE A REAL RAP LEGEND!!!!
I think having "snitches" on his team hurt him too. I personally dont care but he had Alpha Mega and Toung Dro. He had to distance his self from both of them cause of snitchin allegations.
I’m trying to figure out this shit! If you’re an “successful rapper,” then why the hell do you need all of those guns
I never liked his music but interesting learning bout his journey