Great guest and great interview. My opinion is there is no difference between fascism, communism or socialism. In all the state is the uliitmate power, and democracy is eliminated. Democracy of course requires freedom, equality, and the rule of law - the antithesis of statism. In all cases useful idiots are required, but they must be the first to be eliminated once power is achieved, because they are the 'true believers' and are a threat to those who hold power. These warped statist beliefs are the only way that the bottom 50% can gain power and wealth without hard work or intelligence. That is why it is so attractive to the masses - it is the promise of a free lunch without the struggle, hard work and perseverance. The politics of evnvy and ignorance.
Next time Konstantin pops down that there Oxford Union he should take Giles with him, might shake few twisted beliefs just like he (hopefully) did. Great stuff 😊
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As a young man, I joined the Socialist Party of Ireland. After attending two meetings, I left again because I realised that they were pure evil. The focus was about destroying the rich, rather than building up the poor, undermining the state and imposing their will on everyone.
We need a system that builds up the poor & not punish the rich. The only one who managed to accomplish this is now remembered as the worst villain of all.
Just the typical leftist, democrat, labor, communist evil. Old Russian gulags, Mia’s Great Leap Forward are their Super Bowl. It’s a source of pride for them all the death and torture of non communist (non enlightened people).
Read it when I was about 14/15 (40 years ago). The one thing that always stuck with me was that I felt hungry the whole time I was reading it. Even today, when I hear the book mentioned the first thing I think of is hunger.
"We didn't love freedom enough" To me that was the central message, the big takeaway. Today, in the West, we are forsaking freedom and treating it like garbage while extremists and perversely wicked people are pushing for a socialist resurgence which will have a new era of GULAG atrocities in the west. It has already begun with cancel culture.
I am in the Merchant Navy and have been since 1982, back then I was a Deck Hand/AB. I traveled to destinations in the former Soviet Union extensively and witnessed life their at a unique level, as Sailors during the 80's and being ratings (not Officers) we were allowed a rather unique level of Liberty to move around. I visited Closed Cities such as Arkhangelsk. Believe me as a young man the life that the People had in these places had a profound effect on me. I recall I struck up a relationship with a Polish Girl in Gdansk as we were were on a regular run their loading Coal during the Miners strike. I was invited to her home so I got some tinned meat and fruit from the Cook to give to her and her family (Yes it was that bad, food was at a premium, fruit and tinned meat were only available at black market shops). When I reached her parents apartment the gratitude was embarrassing for such a simple gift as spam and tinned ham. However when I produced a pineapple her mother was reduced to tears........ Such was the gift that her parents called round the neighbors to "Look at the Pineapple" . The closest I can equate it too was that in the 80's the Soviet Union was pretty much the same as the the West in the 50's only worse. The oppression and cruelty these people suffered is incredible. The worst part is that in was done "In the name of the People" the irony is is that the Tyranny oppressed, terrorized and murdered in the name of the very people themselves. The worst thing you could be labelled as or accused of was "an enemy of the People" in other words not agreeing with the state. From my own perspective I see this more and more in the West, we have reached the state in our own so called democracies where you have to watch what your saying, otherwise your labelled, cancelled and yes even locked up for not having the agreed view. Even saying a silent prayer can have you banged up. were heading down a dangerous path.
Extraordinary story. Thank you for sharing.I was born in the 80s in communist Poland. Up to this day tinned meat reminds me of luxury. Such childhood experiences remain for life. I once underwent psychoanalysis for a year. In my dreams the superego appears as a person wearing a uniform of some Polish People's Republic service. The feeling that one is nothing and the state is everything has remained deeply encoded in the mind.
As a young man I was on a ship that went to Murmansk in 1977, at the height of the Cold War. Murmansk was a soviet city where people were sent from other parts of the Soviet Union because the state had a need for them to be there. I witnessed the people locked in their apartment blocks, queuing with food coupons to get a drink of orange juice, the most shoddy workmanship because no one took any pride it, the level of police suppression that kept the elites save, you could tell who the elites were, the women wore makeup, and 24/7 brainwashing. Back in the U.K. seeing Labour Party conferences where they call each other comrade and then sing the Red Flag has meant that despite a very working class back ground I have never voted Labour in my life.
@@simonconlaund1010 Thanks for your replay. Very interesting. I remember that at the time, late 1970’s, the U.K. had plenty of problems, a lot of industrial trade Union action, still pretty bitter class divides. The U.K. was going in to a massive period of change, de-industrialisation and a move to service industry based economy. We had lost our way and our confidence in the world. So it was an interesting comparison to spend time in the USSR. The one great difference between these two systems was that in the U.K. I felt free. It was clear the regime in the USSR was very repressive. 99% of political refugees went from the east to the west, that confirms the general view of the society people would chose to live in. That was the 1970’s and is now history. Really interesting on your experience of life today in Russia. The west definitely does not have the same freedom that I felt in the 1970’s. I am not that confident about our future. I had really hoped that Russia would become fully integrated with the west. From what I can see the biggest obstacle to that at the moment is Putin. Poisoning people with plutonium in London and a nerve agent in Salisbury isn’t the best way of winning friends. I am sure the west could have done more after the end of the old soviet regime to help Russia transition. With hindsight a lost opportunity. It is good to hear that life for the average Russian is good and improving. Agreed that today I wouldn’t trust any of our politicians.
@@simonconlaund1010 “Russia seems to be a moral compass in these modern times..” - that comment aged well ;) lol Although I do agree with your sentiments about UK politicians, they are all as bad as each other. I would say labour are marginally worse because they are supposed to be for the “common man” and make pretenses as much, whereas the conservatives, at least, don’t even try to pretend they are.
@@simonconlaund1010 I loved your statement "lets have some normal business men and women running the country not these career politicians who have never worked a day in there lives!" Describes many politicians and bureaucrats.
Please more talk on this topic. I studied communism and Nazism, I heard horror stories from my family (Chinese here🙋🏻♀️) about how a corn grain looks like in human stomach when there are only two half transparent layers of tissues holding that grain in that starved human. No one wants to hear stories of casual cannibalism, I’ve read many. You guys find it horrible that parents were pushed to decide which child to save under nazi rule, we had to deal with stories theming which child to eat under communism. I immigrated to Europe a couple years ago and met self proclaimed communists... I felt so sick my soul puked blood. I think one of the reasons why Nazism is talked about a lot while communism is not is because nazi story is still within the good-evil paradigm, but the communism stories are darker than the darkest humans can imagine, it is almost unspeakable. You know you understand communism when you feel the synchronization of vertigo, nausea and pain the same time while not being able to relate it back to any of your past experiences.
@@highlightning6693 I don’t think so. Marxist and communist ideologies are taught in western universities, but not the actual history. On the contrary, nazi history is taught, but not the ideology. Hence the difference public opinions.
Yes!! a citizen of ex-ussr country here. It bothers me so much western Europe is fine with communist symbols as it was just a harmless joke when it's a symbol of ideology that is responsible for a horrendous amount of human suffering! I was a child when ussr collapsed, I haven't experienced much personally. But I read a ton of books from memories to historical studies to understand it fairly well. Communism is evil. End of.
@john luke I would recommend "Gulag: A History" by Anne Applebaum. But it only talks about soviet union. Maybe OP could recommend something about China, would be interesting to me too.
Re: your statement why communism is never addressed negatively, you are incorrect. Communism was never addressed because the perpetrators were ALL one time Trotskyist turned progressives and necons.
What scares me to death is that there is a not so small group of people who either deny these atrocities happened or make comparisons and argue that capitalism has done even worse.
@@donaldmacfarlane7325 No it hasn't. You're in denial, like all leftists or anti-capitalists. Capitalism has never done anything, because those who do it are greedy evil people, blind individuals. In a communist regime, the evil in inherent to its every nature. Look, I don't like capitalism, either. It's not good that we're ruining everything for money. BUT people in the West still have a chance, which I really don't see Russians ever having.
Of course that America and England are doing much worst things than the communist. Ask the parents of the half million slaughtered children in Iraq what they think about the American capitalism, or ask the people in Libya, Sirya, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Iran, Venezuela, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Nicaragua..... What they think about the American and British capitalism.
Pretty much. As an economics student I learnt that capitalism is freedom ironically. At least you have a choice, I’d rather live a flawed system that needs correcting every now and then than live in a country like China or Venezuela.
How about feudalism? Kids got raised in the house of the next highest class, that's how they ensured fidelity...meaning social mobility on a limited scale was actually inevitable. But dare you even talk about it?
Plan to fight wokism. 1) take away people's GCSE English if they demonstrate an inability to debate, by name-calling or labelling. 2) stop using terms like 'racism' and say 'racial prejudice' instead. There is nothing wrong with making generalisations, like 'men are generally stronger than women'. What is wrong is applying that generalisation to an unknown individual, for examplei don't assume you'll be faster than me on a bicycle.
My daughter said something about that first point to me recently. I responded that without any society people in a raw state of nature either work or die. That is no social construct, that's life.
@James Kostrewa - A couple of months ago, I read Czeslaw Milosz's "The Captive Mind." His account of what the Soviets did to Polish partisans who defended their nation against Nazi Germany - and to Lithuanians, Latvians, and Estonians - chilled me to the core.
Poland has a fascinating and complex history. On one hand, there were those who valiantly fought against Nazis and on the other, there were Pols who hunted and executed Jews in the forests as they tried to flee persecution. I suppose if you destroy a country with years of conflict and instability, all the horrors and depravity contained within people will rise to the surface and spill out. They're no different to any of us. We have the makings of these mentalities in the West today. I can see it happening to any people under such pressures and devastation.
@@wiseonwords my grandma's first husband was a Polish partisan. He was arrested by the Soviets, she was sent divorce papers, nobody ever heard from him again 🙄 the poor man doesn't even have a grave to his name. The only time I felt like i was visiting his grave was when we stood in front of the prison in Eastern Poland where we think he might have been held.
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@@JohnBobRoger Who is K S ? - and "Neo bolsheviks"? All I know about the Council on Foreign Relations is that they were a party in the writing of a US govt publication ("Project for the New American Century -2000 Rebuilding Americas Defences") which announced the hope to go and destroy "7 middle East countries in 5 years". They just needed what turned out to be "9/11" to get the nation behind their idea. So it looks like it has everything to do with "bolchevism", from here.
@@alexandrasymeon5893 Though I've yet to hear him praise Hitler. While Albert Bourla has a 5 minute video praising him for his heroic work "to create a vaccine to save the world from depopulation". He is said to be "Jewish".
Alexander Solzhenitsyn's great work can be listened to on RUclips. The GULAG Archipelago I recommend doing so before the big tech socialists censor it.
You get it also on Michael Malice's podcast "Your Welcome". Also on certain episodes of Joe Rogan podcast, and on Red Pilled America podcast. Triggernometry is not alone. Truth talk and reasonable conversation is growing.
@@paulrevere2379 You can also get a slightly shorter version on audiobook. It's read by Solzhenitsyn's middle son, who reads it brilliantly (and with a good dose of sardonic humour). Once you start listening, you just keep going. Also recommended is Amelia Pang's Made in China, for a slightly different form of "socialism" and how complicit our dear leaders are in its perpetuation.
I have met a few Russian immigrants in the United States. The last one I got to know was a child in the 1960's, orphaned and sent to the Chicago area. He was taken in by a farmer in Ohio. The man taught him to fly his crop duster. Incredible story, the guy was an experienced crop duster by the age of 14. He told me about the thousands of orphans in Russia in the 1950's and 60's. He told me Russia was not a good place to be when he was young. His story could be repeated by millions of oppressed Russian and people of Eastern Europe.
One of the extraordinary things I recently discovered is that most parents tried to shield their children from the worst of this. This has resulted in young Ukrainian and Russian adults now feeling nostalgic towards the Soviet Union, because all they remember are things like the cartoons, toys and television. They have heard the horror stories, but they have no memories from the experience of it
Very true. After only few years of indoctrination in North American education system, I myself thought communism wasn’t such a bad idea. And that’s after escaping from Russia and knowing that my own grandparents went through the gulag system. My mother and her brother were interrogated by NKVD when her father was arrested. They were just kids back then, but luckily they were smart enough not to sign any documents. Miraculously their father was released shortly after but had to escape the country not to be sent to gulag yet again. Despite all this family history, I am ashamed to admit that I thought communism was the solution to problems in capitalism. Learning a bit more history and maturing, I now know better...
@@pavel0900 having gone through school mostly in the 70s in California, I simply cannot imagine ever thinking communism is anything but evil. I also cannot imagine what school must be like these days that made you and your peers believe it was not simply neutral, but actually good. Just can't wrap my mind around that! Good for you for retaining your ability to think and assess critically.
All rich societies shield their kids from necessary discomfort, and by doing so, destroy their mental health and waste their potentials. It seems to be the price to pay for security. I’m pretty pessimistic about the forecast. After I immigrated to the West, I met a man who hasn’t been allowed to attend any funeral until age 21 by the mother. That man is a feeble mess, not many good things would come out of his existence.
I've watched so many of your broadcasts, but I think this one is the most important. It needs to be shared around. It made me sick at heart, but also encouraged me not to be silent. I'm 72, but I fear for the world that my children and grandchildren will live in if we stay silent.
Sorry to break it to you, but the world your children and grandchildren will live in is long gone. Keep in mind the 20th Century was just the introduction to the 21st. We havent seen anything yet. And remember, it will always be justified for public health, for safety and compassion.
I’ve just read Gulag Archipelago… The silent were treated no better than those who spoke out. The only tiny sprinkling of respect those monsters had, was for those who were unwavering in their dissidence. And why was not a single one punished.? Every last 90 year old Nazi was exhaustively tracked down. Where did those vile, evil torturers, thieves and murderers run to? Africa? India? Or anywhere westerners had made nicer than anywhere else? Maybe… there’s a third location positioned somewhere.
When Giles talked about educating the children, I felt that. It is so important going forward to have teachers with integrity and historical knowledge teaching the upcoming generation.
Right ! 100+ years later and it is happening again....I liked how he drew parallels, and explanation of courts and institutions are there to secure property and the Marxist view on courts, property,,,and how anything is justified to bring about the regime, we all saw that with Democrats, anything,any lie, action, etc was acceptable to stop the organge man
I have arrived at this late but I am so grateful to be able to view this. I think this is so powerful. As a teacher I freeze on the spot at a realisation that humanity is capable of such atrocities and how as teachers. We have a duty to educate the future to be better.
You have an obligation to warn your classroom of the death-cult of Communism......which our schools are indoctrinating through identity politics: transgenderism; anti-racism....oppressed vs. oppressor.........same thing!!!!!
There are other equally vile cases of cruelty which should also be discussed. Certainly the two big ones, like the Nazi's and the Bolsheviks, but also the medical crimes enacted upon the Chinese prisoners in unit 731. Then there is Tuoll Sleng the punishment camp in Cambodia. The rape of Nanking is another. The main reason we in the west know little of these other attrocities is because of the wealthy Jewish media connections in every western country. We have been swamped with movies, documentaries, magazines, books, museums all related to the Holocaust. And there has been little room left for highlighting the other attrocities.
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Mainstream journalists for legacy media are paid well to keep people in the dark. They are pressitutes and wear that moniker with pride out in the public but are unable to look at themselves in the mirror. They have nice homes to hang the mirrors in however.
My cossack family mostly ended up in gulags during and after decossackization...multigenerational trauma still affects our family after my grandmother came to Australia after WW2. How she survived such tragedy mentally, gives great strength
I remember Ash Sarkar saying that the USSR made racism and racial persecution illegal in 1920... the very same year that the Soviets started the elimination of the Cossacks in the Ukraine and the Caucasus.
@@baltasarnoreno5973 I think it is good that Ash Sarkar says she's a communist and calls people "Idiots" on the TV. It allows us to know what she is. Dangerous.
@@baltasarnoreno5973 Like Konstantin, family property was taken, their library of books burned in the streets...my grandmother had to always hide her identity, language etc. You know the prejudice runs deep, when I meet Russians here in Australia, they ask where my family were from, and then they figure out cossack background and dont want to talk to you anymore...that is bullshit
Yeah I just don't know if people can truly grasp what həll your grandmother must have experienced, bless her heart 🙏 I've read a lot about that period and your grandma must certainly have been deeply traumatized, as were all those who lived thru such horror. Thank goodness she was able to make it out of there with her humanity and sanity intact to some degree. You surely got generational courage and antifragility from gramdma too- it's in your dna. 💛
Very very very very TRUE!!!! I am from Ukraine! Living now in Germany I tell this story all the time. People could not believe. To my luck my family too have made herself open to all things which they did not share much with us back then, because of the fear for our lives or at least for our normal being in that system even in 70-s......😮
Speaking of people that came to the UK 10-15 years ago from Ex soviet states …. Being married to a person from an ex soviet state she tells me so many of her friends are returning to Poland , Romania and Ukraine because of what they have seen in Europe over the last 5 years , she herself and more often her father who was a history lecturer in Romania tells me these woke westerners have not a Feckin idea what they are signing up for , this is how is started albeit the boogy man was the “capitalist pigs” but you could insert patriarchy , toxic males, anti lgbt , anti trans , anti science, the unclean, anti black, BLM et al , just take your pick whatever you want to single out for the cause and then spread everywhere and it went with such speed that within ten years peoples that were just humble farmers, factory workers, office workers woke up one day to discover hundreds of thousands of people were being persecuted and killed behind closed doors and all was revealed but far to late , they were now in a totalitarian state and there was no way out . It just crept up on them one edict/mandated at a time , the soviets in the early years were masters of behavioral science. You can be assured even now in 2021 when you hear that government is being guided by behavioral scientists you can also be assured things are not going to turn out well . Once a government is guided by how to manipulate a population for what ever reason be that religion , race , politics or even ‘ for the better Heath of the nation ‘, be worried , very worried .
Please stop fantasising...Everybody from Eastern Europe knows the wokeness has nothing to do with socialism, these are completely different ideas. Anyway I also grew up in the former Eastern Block. The west's idea of left is completely different from the historical socialism of Eastern Europe. You don't know what about you are talking. Anyway many people who lived during socialism have a good opinion about it. Me and my family included. It wasn't perfect but was far from the picture the west paints it. It always seemed me strange westerners who had no experience of it have the most vocal (bad) opinion about it.... Anyway the socalled Left in the west is nothing else than a stooge for the big banks and corporations, thus they are not really socialists.
@@marthas.4456 Eastern Bloc socialism and wokeness are similar in that they both restrict speech - which translates into restrictions on thought. Any such restriction on people by other people results in the same thing: enslavement. Perhaps socialism wasn't so bad for you ... but you probably didn't know any better? Pacified sheep don't complain; that's just where they want you.
@@RB-bd5tz I certainly lived through few systems, probably more than you. First the socialism up to 1989, after that a very wild form of capitalism of Eastern Europe and 16 years ago I moved to UK. So I can compare different forms of systems, I'm talking from my own experience, and not parroting others. Yes, the speech was restricted in the communist countries, but isn't the western capitalist countries trying to do same??? Powers everywhere are trying to stifle speech when it doesn't agree with them. It's a human nature. Of course we commoners should fight for the free speech. When I'm defending socialism it doesn't mean I regard it as a perfect system. No, far from it. It had lots of faults... but also the capitalist system has faults and lots of it. I'm trying to make a balance and say as it is.... There are and always were lots of lies from the West also.... There isn't a big difference between your left and right, they are two cheeks of the same ass. Both of them support the elite, which are the banks and corporations and these rule the capitalist world.
@@marthas.4456 Thanks; I really appreciate your perspective. Yes, the West is limiting speech, movement, and freedom in general. But why is that? Because they are becoming socialist. I know quite a few people from the former Eastern Bloc, who lived under communism, and they are under no illusions where the West is heading. Socialism is the thin end of the wedge to totalitarianism. Socalism is not about the good of the people; it's about control of the people. There are the privileged few, and the enslaved underclass. Capitalism is THE SAME - except, under capitalism, people can, at least theoretically, improve their lot, with some effort. There is no such option under socialism: everyone must be equal - equally POOR (except those at the top). But you're right: it's all BS, all a show, all controlled by some very rich narcissists who pit the people against each other through ideology.
@@RB-bd5tz -the West is NOT heading towards socialism. If somebody saying the opposite - that person doesn't know what is socialism. The power in the West is in the hands of banks and big corporations. The politicians are their puppets. Do you believe the owners of these organisations would want to give away their power to the state??? No. THEY ARE meddling into the state affairs... The system they want to create could be called neo-feudalism..... The industry and monetary system in socialism was managed by principles, nobody was profiting from it. Not even the high profile party members. I knew many party members and none of them were rich, but of course they weren't hight profile. Of course the ppl who had high ranking were living better than us, but even those weren't really rich by today standard. It's true if you have had above average abilities you could do much better in the capitalist countries than in the former soc. countries. But for that there were more reasons. One of the reasons is the Eastern part of Europe always was behind the Western part, even well before the WW2 thus before the socialism. Maybe the only exception was Czechia, however the other part of the country Czechoslovakia (the Slovak part) was a very underdeveloped and poor region in the first half of 20th century. From this part is my family coming from and according to my parents, grandparents who remembered the situation before the WW2, according to them the socialism was a big improvement. And actually if you tried hard you could have improved your situation even in the socialism, but of course there was no luxury. But people had what they needed.... Forgive me my rambling, it might sound incoherent to you but this is a very complicated topic and so many misrepresentations, prejudices and contradictions are in people's minds about it. But the history and politics aren't simple or straitforward. I believe the ideal society will combine the best of socialism and capitalism. Where strategic industries are state owned, so no groups will hold ordinary people to ransom, while creating a situation where small private businesses can thrive.
They had sanitized communism in our high school curriculum by the mid 2010’s. I don’t remember ever learning about it in school. I only learned by my love for history. The gulag archipelago was really shocking for me.
My father studied in the USSR from 1973 to 1982, he met an old lady who had a book of intellectuals' names who used to frequent her library in the 1930s. Over time, they stopped showing up to return books they had borrowed. She went to their addresses to try and find out what happened to them and instead she found that they had disappeared. They had been deported to the gulags by Stalin, she wanted to hand over the book to my dad but he refused because he knew that it would draw attention from the Soviet authorities.
My wife's Aunt went to St Petersburg after the collapse of communism to help set up new model of the early education units. At the time, she was a senior academic in the UK early education system and was once Her Majesty's Inspector of Schools. She told us the most tricky thing to teach there was how to ask questions and how to get children asking questions. Apparently, asking questions was a high risk activity under the Soviet regime.
The colleges and universities are the problem of why kids are so messed up, i.e., ANTIFA, BLM, "microaggressions," "safe spaces." No. Forget the universities. The populace needs to wake up and educate themselves.
Brilliant conversation!!! I love that Giles made a connection with kibutz system in Israel. I lived in a Russian kibutz of all things and saw the correlation myself. My grandparents were imprisoned and escaped from a gulag, my wife’s family as well. This is all so sad yet very important to talk about, especially today. People are romanticizing communism and socialism. People need to discover the truth about all of those social experiments that took place. They need to know that those were not exceptions to the rule, they are the rule. I’d love to read his books and familiarize myself with this subject even more. Thank you for having him on your show. Have you ever considered inviting Anne Applebaum the author of “Gulag” and “Red Famine” to your show?
I used to wonder how people fell for such tyranny. Now I have a front row seat. It's both fear and envy. Same now as it was then. And I think those who support it think that they are on the right side and will never have the machine turned on them.
My own early experience with commies was in my first day of college in 1971. I signed up for a course in History of European Art. The female prof came in and announced“ You may have seen this is a course in the history of European art but it’s really an introductory course in basic Marxism.” I stood up, all of 20 years old, and told her that was unfair and deceitful to list it as a course in European art when really it was a course in communism and left. This was at Simon Fraser University in Burnaby a suburb of Vancouver, British Columbia. It was only five years old then but already had a reputation for being far left politically. So this has been going for a long time. The pity is that in that class of about fifty students I never heard anyone else complain. As I left first I don’t know if anyone else walked out. At the time they just seemed to sit there inert and nodding that it was OK. They had just been bald -faced lied to about the course and just accepted it. I left Canada 20 years later and retired as a university lecturer in 2015. Look at the state of Canada now. It was facilitated by people like in my class back in 1971. They don’t know what happened.
Wow. Thought I'd watch a few minutes of this before jumping in the shower. Forget that. Couldn't stop watching. An amazingly well-told cautionary tale for these times. Best guest ever.
My own grandfather was deported to Siberia in a cattle car. He was lucky, he came back alive. This interview is very emotional for me, especially considering that the horror, the suffering, the very destruction of human condition could not even be discussed when he came back home. Stories were told only in a tight-lipped way, a remark here, a fleeting reminiscence there. Also, the returnees were under the watchful eye of the KGB. I truly commend Triggernometry for this interview. This is truly educational material for those who were not involved in that history. Yes, things were that awful and more.
Justinas, it was emotional for me too, and I have no family connection to it...the evil horror of the Communist regime, the sheer heartless cruelty and deceit needs to be ceaselessly taught.
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My paternal Grandfather was sent to a Gulag; he was NEVER seen or heard from, again. The ENTIRE REMAINDER of our family on my Dad's side was "deported" to Siberia. The only exceptions were my Dad and my Uncle Volodymyr... Long story...
Best interview ever. This man is amazing, and all the more so to me because.... I've never before heard of him. I am so inspired. I feel braver just having watched this.
It's impossible to oppress Klaus, because they are the oppressive class. It's impossible to be racist against white people, because they are the oppressive class.
Many of your episodes, but this in particular, made me realise how different an outlook on history we really do have depending on our geographical location. I'm Polish so of course I'm skewed, but I had no idea these things aren't being *taught* in British schools; that students in Western Europe aren't taught about the great famine in Ukraine or the USSR's involvement (or lack thereof) in the Warsaw Uprising, or the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, or the gulags. Here it runs with our blood really, both the nazi and the Soviet crimes. In the war my one grandma hid in the fields from the Red Army and the other was held in a nazi labour camp, one's uncle was killed in Katyń by soviets and the other's shot by Gestapo in the streets of Warsaw. Every family has such stories; I was completely oblivious these things aren't taught in Western schools. I'm very glad you've mentioned The Gulag Archipelago, may I recommend another great (and chilling) work by a Polish gulag survior and great author Gustaw Herling-Grudziński, "A World Apart". It's an obligatory read in Polish schools, for good reasons, and I do believe it should be widely popularised.
Sadly now, we are rarely even taught our own history (I hope to bring more attention to it). The most I was taught related to communism was the Cuban Missile crisis. Plenty on 1930’s Germany and Hitlers rise to power however. Someone elsewhere put it succinctly, "we are taught the history of fascism, but not it's ideology and we are taught the ideology of communism but not its history" I've been on holiday in Poland a couple of times, first to Krakow and visited Auschwitz, the second time I stayed in Gdansk and it was in the museum there I got to see far more of the horrors communism brought to Poland. The country escaped the boot of one monstrous regime to find itself straight under another. That realisation rather soured the celebration of VE day for me, especially when I discovered the Poles were not allowed to march in the celebrations... and some where sent home only to face immediate execution. It frustrates me to no end that we are not taught about this at all.
if you want to get a good insight into cold war propaganda and how deeply embedded the misinformation created by it has become in academia, look no further than operation QRPLUMB
I vaguely remember reading "White Nights" back in the 70s. It was written by Menachem Begin, a gulag survivor who went on to become the Prime Minister of Isreal. I should read it again as I have forgotten a lot of it now. He claimed he was sent there after the war because he was a Zionist activist in Poland before the war. before Russia took over Poland. His crime was he was an activist. Didn't matter when, it was still a crime.
I am a retired naval officer who spent most of the 1980s chasing Soviets all over the Pacific. It angers me beyond belief that while I thought I was doing my part to defeat communism, the infection was spreading throughout our schools in the United States.
Thank you, Sir. What you did was a genuine & necessary service to the nation (and all who value liberty). The breakdown did not occur in the military in the 1980s but in the complacency & cowardice characteristic of Republicans and "conservatives" throughout the US who refused to recognize the Gramscian Long March Through the Institutions already well underway domestically in the US by the 1980s. Our externally-facing military can only do so much. But the people themselves -- private citizens -- must ALSO be alert to defend our liberties and our Constitutional Republic. They've done a piss-poor job of it since our tough-minded WWII generation passed the leadership baton off to subsequent generations. Our veterans deserve our honor and respect. But "We the People" also have a crucial part to play in protecting our domestic institutions of cultural transmission (which have been the explicit targets of both Antonio Gramsci & the Frankfurt School strategists) and they largely chose not to.
I've read Giles Udy's book about Labour and Soviets... very good, lots of excerpts from documents and of course exposing early Labour's complicity in legitimising Soviet government.
The fact that people put up with this repression is crazy…. We need to train people to fight for their own freedom- that freedom is a value in and of itself
To date this has been the best interview I’ve seen on Triggernometry. I was captivated from the very start. Brilliant work guys, and I’m off to purchase Mr Udy’s book. Thanks.
Fantastic episode. I'd love to hear more about the history of communism and socialism, which I must admit was an idea I loosely endorsed as a youngster without understanding what it truly meant and the horrors it caused
Your teachers at school taught you that socialism was good. 99.9% of teachers are leftists, and they know about as much as you do about socialism/communism.
I was talking to someone around my age I'm 22 who was a socialist , they aren't bad they just have no grasp on how the real world works and socialism really sell you a fantasy. I feel that's why so many young people around my age fall for it. Like shit , I would love if the government could pay for my housing, Healthcare and food but that's not how the world works. It's just scary , I worry about my future and the future of my grandchildren if we just act like socialism and communism is a ok way to run our government.
14:06 during my childhood my country was under communism. my great grandfather was sent to a concentration camp exactly for that, having a property. The rest of the family were deported from their home , not allowed to take anything with them, to a village and were banned from entering the city. When my great grandfather was released, it was in the middle of the winter, km from home, just with a shirt on and on foot. My father told me that he never spoke about the cruelties he suffered. All this time in my country (not even speaking about the concentration camps )people were being killed, tortured, not having bare products and services, no freedom of speech. There were more people killed by the communist regime than in the WWII and still almost no one is speaking about that and informing people, whereas speaking about fascists is banned. And it is really upsetting seeing so called left activists who are talking how “great” communism is and moreover complaining how oppressed they are!
I think a conversation like this is utterly vital for people to listen to and more importantly to fully absorb as best they can. The vast majority of people living throughout the West know about the numerous horrors and barbarity of Hitler’s Nazi regime, but far too many know next to nothing about the atrocities that were carried out by the various communist regimes within specific areas of the world throughout history. Fascism/nazism is rightfully viewed as being a completely unacceptable ideology for anyone to have to live under. However communism continues to be lauded and romanticized by far too many people throughout the world to this very day, and this makes for a terribly concerning and ominous situation for us to have to contend with.
Exactly our education has had a heavily leftist slant. I am 40 and just coming to terms with it all. In fact our blindness to this may be a result of the traumas of Nazism and that we were alliesin WW2
The horrors of socialism, the Soviet variety and all others have been covered up, ignored and minimized from their inception through today, especially on US university campuses and in Hollywood films. If the truth was given half as much coverage as the socialist promotion efforts, then you wouldn't be able to fill a small house with those who now beat their socialist drums by the millions.
Yes they were known by then. Yet we still have in the present day numerous apologists and sympathizers from all professions and walks of life who continually attempt to whitewash what occurred in countries like Russia/USSR, China and even Cambodia under their specific communist regimes. And not to mention all those who extol the various ‘wonders’ of communism within Cuba and claim that the reasons the island experiences it’s share of terrible hardships and suffering is solely due to the effects The U.S. embargo has had on the nation.
Bullshit, the right wing are constantly attempting to play these up and minimize the role of the Soviet Union in defeating Hitler. How about "liberalism"? A million civilians dead in Iraq due to an illegal invasion, Libya which was the wealthiest nation in Africa reduced to destitution and slave markets, the head of the CIA who headed up a "black site" torture chamber ... the list is endless. Lets remember that the first concentration camps were in South Africa, set up by the British. Hypocrisy certainly does stink, just like British and US Imperialism.
An apologist argued with George Orwell ‘if you want to make an omelette you’ve got to break some eggs.’ To which Orwell said: ‘yes, but where’s the omelette!’
What occurred in mid 30s isn't even known to many. I was shocked when I first learned many years ago. Not only by the cruelty but how it's been ignored.
Having lived in an ex-soviet nation for many years, the most important thing I learnt is that 70+ years of communism couldn't wipe out 'class'. As soon as the experiment ended in 89/90/91 the very same elite families took control of the new economy. 'Class' can't be eradicated from human society, hence we have to limit it's power without the need for full communism.
People with talent will always float to the top. The point is that talent (like physical beauty) is largely a genetic characteristic, honed through generations of hard work, and it flowers especially well in successful families. Don’t agree with you entirely about the people who took control in 1990/91. Many of them were criminal guttersnipes of the lowest breeding. (Though if there is honour among thieves, you could say there is also ‘class’ among criminals.)
@@sirrathersplendid4825 It's not necessarily "talent". It can also be that the post -1990 legal systems in some of those countries allowed noble families to regain properties confiscated by the Communists. However, the culture of these families had allowed them to survive times of deprivation and great hardship, and so they were determined enough and in a position to reacquire some of their property. Unfortunately, the re-privatisation laws have also been abused by greedy fraudsters, sometimes resulting in the murder of those who opposed them (such as tenants of communal housing).
@Sam Black - Some families are considered pathological. Does that mean it’s hereditary? I don’t know. Rather it’s passed down in the family ‘culture’ (or lack thereof), and also in the culture of neighbours and acquaintances.
Thank you guys. What an amazing interview. I hope and pray that thousands of people who support collectivism have watched this video and come to the realization that collectivism-socialism-communism has NEVER solved one issue and instead, has been the cause of nothing but death and misery. The salesmen for this ideology have a silver tongue and make it all seem like a wonderful idea and never expose the parasite for what it is.
Thank you for this! Giles Udy is a dear friend, and as a Hungarian in the UK, I've always had massive respect for what he does. Keep up the good work guys! 👏
Great talk. To my horror kids today have NO IDEA how evil communism was/is. Presumably they don't teach it in schools and today's youth are sadly intellectually very incurious, particularly regards history and other countries. Thank you. D.A., J.D., NYC
And it is important to inform our young people that the vast majority of the top Bolsheviks were Jews. Yes after Lenin died and Stalin took over it was he alone who was responsible for all the attrocities, including a pogrom against Russian Jews who he was suspicious of. Remember Hitler was the big white hope for the European countries who thought he might be a good buffer between them and the bolsheviks. Trouble was that Hitler had ideas of his own.
@den264 The perpetrators of the Coup that led to the Russian revolution were Jews. The Red Army was founded and led by Jews. The first Soviet Politburo was mostly Jews. The NKVD (Soviet secret police, precursor to the KGB) was formed and run by Jews. The Gulag system was mostly run by Jews. All these facts were well known in the 1920s-1940s but now erased from our consciousness.
Listening to these stories, and the freezing conditions, I am surprised that anyone at all survived. Brutal. You ask - what can you do about it? Doing these kinds of videos to educate the public is a start. I found you here by happenstance as I have been watching all kinds of videos on YT. Use social media, so many people are watching and learning on social media - also, make a feature film and send it out into the theatres and the streaming services, to create a buzz. Go where the eyeballs are and get in front of them.
@Kauf Frau Apropos, ''Kolyma Tales'' is a good read. Also John Noble's story ''I found God in Soviet Russia'' Then there is Yuri Vetokhin's story ''Inclined to Escape''.
@@kauffrau6764 My last reply disappered so I will just try to leave some book titles here: Ivan Bunin "Cursed Days", George Popoff "The Cheka", "Sofia Petrovna", David Satter > "Age of Delerium", "It was a long time ago and it never happened anyway", "The Less You Know the Better You Sleep". "Anti-Humans Student Re-Education in Romanian Prisons" by Dumitru Bacu, John Noble "I found God in Soviet Russia", "Kolyma Tales" by Shalamov, "Stalin's secret agents in the Roosevelt government" by Herbert Romerstein, "The Great Terror" and "The Harvest of Sorrow" by Robert Conquest, "Hellstorm" by Thomas Goodrich, "Grusome Harvest" by Keeling, Golitsyn "New Lies for Old" and "Perestroika Deception", "Other Losses" by Baque, "The Iron Curtain Over America" by Beaty, "The World Conquerors" by Louis Marschalko, "The Secret World Government" by Count Cherep-Spiridovich, "Biohazard" by Ken Alibek, "Spetsnaz " by Viktor Suvorov, "Red Mafyia" by Robert L. Friedman, "Among the Red Autocrats" by George Solomon.
Yes well apart from one movie called Gulag made in the 80's the movie industry has a lot to answer for, it's virtually ignored these atrocities, but of course according to them the nazis are the worst of the worst, well actually we should be seeing many more movies made about these stories to show that the nazis weren't the only totalitarian regime that did horrible things, it's important people know and learn so history is not repeated.
@@iggyblitz8739 Agree. Do you know that Bill Burr, the comedian, does a bit about this? He compares the Nazis to Stalin, and how Stalin destroyed many more people.
Born in a Kibutz in the end of the 60s and can corroborate what is said here about the Kibutz in Israel. Those places mostly became privatized by now. Being born there I could see how the socialist ideology does not fit human beings and could never work successfully.
I've lived and worked in both a kibbutz and a hippy commune...I had a wonderful time on the kibbutz but saw how equality is a dream and that there is always a hierarchy....Also I saw the damage that taking kids from their parents so early did(they were put into children's houses on the kibbutz and hardly saw their parents). Also I noticed a very paranoid atmosphere....gossip was rife and there was very little real privacy. However there were lots of good things....all eating together...feeling part of a huge family....working hard and getting respect...and tons of fun. The hippy commune was a total nightmare from start to finish. No system will work properly until we do something about the psychopaths who live among us and cause a disproportionate amount of harm.
@@JTP_Trades will be happy to share, might not be as brief as usual comments. Here is one glaring example,; The Kibutz tried to hold the ideal of a pure socialist commune, that means that no one has any private money (or other assets) and all the money belongs to everyone, in other words belong to the cooperative. At the end of the day, although money belongs to everyone, you need someone to deposit checks you get after selling the milk or getting cash from the bank to give to someone who need to go on a bus to the city etc (obviously not everyone in the community can get access to the Kibutz bank account… ha ha I can see Marx is already rolling in his grave hearing that :-) , so the council of the members of the Kibutz chose the Kibutz Money Manager and since it was obvious to everyone that this person has some power that the others don’t have (so some inequality already) the term of a Money Manager could not exceed two years, after a few years passing by you start to notice a pattern that there is indeed rotation but the same three or four guys are doing that same job over and over, the reason is that not everyone on the Kibutz can do this job, as with any random group of people only a few has the qualities and skills to do it… so those four people and some other people in a few other key positions are starting to dominate the decision making and control information and access to different things like money budgets etc (since they have leadership and communication and sometime other required skills) and they become the de facto ruling class, so equality is hampered by the obvious fact of life that people are different in many ways and in order to operate in a reasonable manner any organization (even a socialist one) have to take in consideration merit over equality in many cases.
50:00 this is how my mother ended up becoming an engineer in Romania. She wanted to become a teacher, but the party decided there is no more need of new teachers, the country needs more engineers for whatever industrialisation project. So they reorganised the whole education sistem and started training engineers. My mother was forced into an entirely different class than she originally planned. From grade 9 her path was set out for her.
This is one of the very best conversations you've had in all the while you've been doing your thing. Once again Triggernometry boldly goes where the legacy media fears to tread.
Another amazing interview! What I love so much is that you guys let the guests talk and talk and we REALLY get to tell their tales. It's so refreshing just for that. It's about the guests, not about your egos. I really really hope you never change.
Check out the old KGB station museum in Vilnius Lithuania. They had a narrow cell with a metal plate in the middle of the floor surrounded by ice water. You either stood in the ice water or on the metal plate. Horribly creative.
Great interview! I grew up in Poland in the seventies, came to live in the UK in 1981 and could never understand the fascination with communism by the British labour party supporters. So much ignorance on the subject. Let's enlighten people with historical facts by amazing speakers like Giles Udy.
A Lownie.' Stalin's Englishmen' on Guy Burgess. A noted British spy for Stalin is a interesting study of the motivation of old Etonians like Burgess. Burgess was a British diplomat, PA to the second Foreign Office Cabinet Minister, Hector McNeil, Far East specialist who recommended the UK recognise Red China. Possibly those from exceptional privilege and wealth in the UK/USA in the 1920s and depression were shocked by the industrial exploitation of labour and unemployment and had unrealistic beliefs in human equality and education based on the French Revolution and Rousseau.
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I’ve watched this episode of Triggernometry more than any other. Please get Giles back on, I can’t get enough of this. I need more discussion on this subject. I despise communists and socialists.
He also talks about how tied up the Truman administration, media and worse still academia were with Soviet influence. This is the major reason people don't know. It was actually illegal to criticize the USSR during and right after the war.
It’s still “illegal” to criticize CCP in China 😑. I used to comment under the online news while it was still possible about 8 years ago, nothing harsh, just some analysis on events. My mom later got several phone calls from the National Security. They didn’t even call me, they threatened my family directly, they just wanted to show me how easy it is to know who I am and to get my mom’s number. I stopped commenting immediately, their message was well received, I have to say. 🤣
@alex a large number of Truman's senior advisors had pro soviet leanings . This fatuation academia left has with the leftist isms. Truman's staff was compromised to the hilt . Hiss and the UK Cambridge 5
@@whatsamattau4749: Because of espionage concerns about Hiss, he was to be removed from the State Department. President Roosevelt favored this. Hiss was removed in 1946 during the Truman administration, and installed at the Carnegie Endowment.
This is a fascinating interview. He had me hooked when at the start he mentioned how everyone had a story of a family member suffering a horrible experience. I grew up with many Ukrainian friends in high school. I never could totally relate or understand their culture; well as much as I was exposed to it . One was a very vocal anti-communist and one day he opened up and mentioned how when his mother was a young girl, her mother was shot and killed in her own home by a Russian soldier, right in front of her. Who knows what tales the others are carrying in their souls.
Brilliant interview, guys. I have watched almost all of your podcasts and interviews over the last few years and I think this one of the very best and most important that you have done. Upvoted a thousand times.
Giles was so very interesting. So loquacious, eloquent and accomplished on these topics; it was incredibly engaging. I'll be picking up his books. Great guest.
Fascinating subject Most memorable moment was why the is no Shindlers List for the Gulags Sadly the answer is fairly obvious The arts lean to the left and you can't critisie your own side
It is worth mentioning that both the book by Solzhenitsen and the 1970's movie 'One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich' come close to a portrayal of what life was actually like for prisoners in the Gulags. In terms of the depiction of the ridiculous insanity of the Stalin dictatorship, Armando Ianucci's 2017 film 'The Death Of Stalin' is worth a watch. (Ostensibly played as a dark comedy, it's actually a chilling and accurate account of the endemic corruption of the regime at that time.) Interestingly, I'm sure Mr. Ianucci would consider himself very much 'of the left' and yet his film is a scathing attack on the Soviet system. xx SF
Just posted this on Facebook writing: "I'm very disturbed by the ongoing romanticizing of Marxism/Socialism and the Left's complete denial of their own history (and ongoing story). If you don't know what I mean you need to see this.. 😧😢😡"
Great show. Can you get Frank Dikötter to tell the similar extraordinary story of the Chinese revolution? (Land reform, struggle sessions, mass killing of landlords, collectivisation, mass famine, cannibalism, Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, Red Guards roaming the streets with automatic weapons, etc, etc.)
Absolutely terrific interview. Excellent guest and I am really looking forward to reading his book. I am delighted that there are people in the West who are speaking out and letting people know these stories and the evils of communism.
This is quite astonishing to hear his story - that he visited and saw how things were in Russia. The Gulags was a book I could not cope with and never finished - I was so horrified that humans could do what they did to fellow human beings.
@@Lurch685 they are us. They are humans who are fallible and capable of being indoctrinated. We have to remember that about ourselves. Even for those who oppose Communism. Extremism happens on both sides and we have to understand what makes people susceptible to becoming Communist. Dehumanizing them is what they did to others and we make it easier to view them as without value. That is what leads to these atrocities.
@@Lurch685 that is precisely the sort of way of seeing the world that leads to the soviet gulags or nazi death camps or the rwanda genocide - its dangerous to start viewing other people as unhuman.
Probably my favourite ever interview with you guys. So informative and moving. You guys rightly left him to talk when he was on a roll, then asked poignant questions at the right points. Seeing KK emotional was a very touching moment
China did the same as wiping out their own soldiers upon returning. It was the ROC(remnants that fled to Taiwan) after expending energy fending off the Japanese was then overrun by farmers in the name of "social justice". Stories of violence against own family members or school teachers are around as well.
This discussion helps clear up a lot of mixed messages I get about communism and Russia / Stalin/ Lenin. They are being discussed in such a great light these days but I always feel like the whole killing people and letting people starve gets brushed under the rug. Communism is not the answer to predatory capitalism.
@R Tim Unfortnately, and fatally, true. In Poland, thousands have died because the Law and Justice Party did not want to displease its more anti-vax constituents. It is a crime when poll standings are given priority over human life. Vaccination should have been made compulsory for all many months ago.
Absolutely! Its irritating that there is an assumption that if you are against capitalism then you must be communist. Being against the exploitation of people isn't bipartisan.
@R Tim private companies are less likely to rip you off because they have a bottom line to worry about. They have a reputation. They’re also more likely to give you a better result, because they have an incentive to perform. Government is gonna take your money regardless, and they have precisely zero incentive to provide you a good product or service.
1:03:00 This man truly has understood Communism. I am glad he is here and shares his accumulated wisdom. This episode is horrendously underwatched and needs to be massively advertised and shared.
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@@mrsteve170 AI Censor?
Great guest and great interview. My opinion is there is no difference between fascism, communism or socialism. In all the state is the uliitmate power, and democracy is eliminated. Democracy of course requires freedom, equality, and the rule of law - the antithesis of statism. In all cases useful idiots are required, but they must be the first to be eliminated once power is achieved, because they are the 'true believers' and are a threat to those who hold power. These warped statist beliefs are the only way that the bottom 50% can gain power and wealth without hard work or intelligence. That is why it is so attractive to the masses - it is the promise of a free lunch without the struggle, hard work and perseverance. The politics of evnvy and ignorance.
Next time Konstantin pops down that there Oxford Union he should take Giles with him, might shake few twisted beliefs just like he (hopefully) did.
Great stuff 😊
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As a young man, I joined the Socialist Party of Ireland. After attending two meetings, I left again because I realised that they were pure evil. The focus was about destroying the rich, rather than building up the poor, undermining the state and imposing their will on everyone.
'Ello.
We need a system that builds up the poor & not punish the rich. The only one who managed to accomplish this is now remembered as the worst villain of all.
@@aidansumner8364 So there were no poor impure elements in Germany before the death camps?
Jealousy and envy
Just the typical leftist, democrat, labor, communist evil.
Old Russian gulags, Mia’s Great Leap Forward are their Super Bowl.
It’s a source of pride for them all the death and torture of non communist (non enlightened people).
The Gulag Archipelago should be made mandatory reading all over the world, not just Russia.
Read it when I was about 14/15 (40 years ago). The one thing that always stuck with me was that I felt hungry the whole time I was reading it.
Even today, when I hear the book mentioned the first thing I think of is hunger.
The gulag archipelago is the single most lifechanging book for me. Changed everything
Nothing should be mandatory.
I read the book once, and I will never read it again, but I took from it a deeeeeep hatred of socialism.
"We didn't love freedom enough"
To me that was the central message, the big takeaway.
Today, in the West, we are forsaking freedom and treating it like garbage while extremists and perversely wicked people are pushing for a socialist resurgence which will have a new era of GULAG atrocities in the west. It has already begun with cancel culture.
I am in the Merchant Navy and have been since 1982, back then I was a Deck Hand/AB. I traveled to destinations in the former Soviet Union extensively and witnessed life their at a unique level, as Sailors during the 80's and being ratings (not Officers) we were allowed a rather unique level of Liberty to move around. I visited Closed Cities such as Arkhangelsk. Believe me as a young man the life that the People had in these places had a profound effect on me. I recall I struck up a relationship with a Polish Girl in Gdansk as we were were on a regular run their loading Coal during the Miners strike. I was invited to her home so I got some tinned meat and fruit from the Cook to give to her and her family (Yes it was that bad, food was at a premium, fruit and tinned meat were only available at black market shops). When I reached her parents apartment the gratitude was embarrassing for such a simple gift as spam and tinned ham. However when I produced a pineapple her mother was reduced to tears........ Such was the gift that her parents called round the neighbors to "Look at the Pineapple" . The closest I can equate it too was that in the 80's the Soviet Union was pretty much the same as the the West in the 50's only worse. The oppression and cruelty these people suffered is incredible. The worst part is that in was done "In the name of the People" the irony is is that the Tyranny oppressed, terrorized and murdered in the name of the very people themselves. The worst thing you could be labelled as or accused of was "an enemy of the People" in other words not agreeing with the state. From my own perspective I see this more and more in the West, we have reached the state in our own so called democracies where you have to watch what your saying, otherwise your labelled, cancelled and yes even locked up for not having the agreed view. Even saying a silent prayer can have you banged up. were heading down a dangerous path.
Caring for "the people" but not much caring about people.
We will be the same within 5 years
Extraordinary story. Thank you for sharing.I was born in the 80s in communist Poland. Up to this day tinned meat reminds me of luxury. Such childhood experiences remain for life. I once underwent psychoanalysis for a year. In my dreams the superego appears as a person wearing a uniform of some Polish People's Republic service. The feeling that one is nothing and the state is everything has remained deeply encoded in the mind.
As a young man I was on a ship that went to Murmansk in 1977, at the height of the Cold War. Murmansk was a soviet city where people were sent from other parts of the Soviet Union because the state had a need for them to be there. I witnessed the people locked in their apartment blocks, queuing with food coupons to get a drink of orange juice, the most shoddy workmanship because no one took any pride it, the level of police suppression that kept the elites save, you could tell who the elites were, the women wore makeup, and 24/7 brainwashing. Back in the U.K. seeing Labour Party conferences where they call each other comrade and then sing the Red Flag has meant that despite a very working class back ground I have never voted Labour in my life.
Fascinating story, thanks for sharing
And you know that if these inane Labour MPs every managed to impose their utopia in the UK, they would not be the ones standing in food queues.
@@simonconlaund1010 Thanks for your replay. Very interesting. I remember that at the time, late 1970’s, the U.K. had plenty of problems, a lot of industrial trade Union action, still pretty bitter class divides. The U.K. was going in to a massive period of change, de-industrialisation and a move to service industry based economy. We had lost our way and our confidence in the world. So it was an interesting comparison to spend time in the USSR. The one great difference between these two systems was that in the U.K. I felt free. It was clear the regime in the USSR was very repressive. 99% of political refugees went from the east to the west, that confirms the general view of the society people would chose to live in. That was the 1970’s and is now history. Really interesting on your experience of life today in Russia. The west definitely does not have the same freedom that I felt in the 1970’s. I am not that confident about our future. I had really hoped that Russia would become fully integrated with the west. From what I can see the biggest obstacle to that at the moment is Putin. Poisoning people with plutonium in London and a nerve agent in Salisbury isn’t the best way of winning friends. I am sure the west could have done more after the end of the old soviet regime to help Russia transition. With hindsight a lost opportunity. It is good to hear that life for the average Russian is good and improving. Agreed that today I wouldn’t trust any of our politicians.
@@simonconlaund1010 “Russia seems to be a moral compass in these modern times..” - that comment aged well ;) lol
Although I do agree with your sentiments about UK politicians, they are all as bad as each other. I would say labour are marginally worse because they are supposed to be for the “common man” and make pretenses as much, whereas the conservatives, at least, don’t even try to pretend they are.
@@simonconlaund1010 I loved your statement "lets have some normal business men and women running the country not these career politicians who have never worked a day in there lives!" Describes many politicians and bureaucrats.
Please more talk on this topic.
I studied communism and Nazism, I heard horror stories from my family (Chinese here🙋🏻♀️) about how a corn grain looks like in human stomach when there are only two half transparent layers of tissues holding that grain in that starved human. No one wants to hear stories of casual cannibalism, I’ve read many.
You guys find it horrible that parents were pushed to decide which child to save under nazi rule, we had to deal with stories theming which child to eat under communism.
I immigrated to Europe a couple years ago and met self proclaimed communists... I felt so sick my soul puked blood.
I think one of the reasons why Nazism is talked about a lot while communism is not is because nazi story is still within the good-evil paradigm, but the communism stories are darker than the darkest humans can imagine, it is almost unspeakable.
You know you understand communism when you feel the synchronization of vertigo, nausea and pain the same time while not being able to relate it back to any of your past experiences.
Communism has been ignored in our schools specifically because they didn't want our children to see it creeping up behind them.
@@highlightning6693 I don’t think so. Marxist and communist ideologies are taught in western universities, but not the actual history. On the contrary, nazi history is taught, but not the ideology. Hence the difference public opinions.
Yes!! a citizen of ex-ussr country here. It bothers me so much western Europe is fine with communist symbols as it was just a harmless joke when it's a symbol of ideology that is responsible for a horrendous amount of human suffering! I was a child when ussr collapsed, I haven't experienced much personally. But I read a ton of books from memories to historical studies to understand it fairly well. Communism is evil. End of.
@john luke I would recommend "Gulag: A History" by Anne Applebaum. But it only talks about soviet union. Maybe OP could recommend something about China, would be interesting to me too.
Re: your statement why communism is never addressed negatively, you are incorrect. Communism was never addressed because the perpetrators were ALL one time Trotskyist turned progressives and necons.
What scares me to death is that there is a not so small group of people who either deny these atrocities happened or make comparisons and argue that capitalism has done even worse.
It has, but two nasty wrongs don't make a right.
@@donaldmacfarlane7325 No it hasn't. You're in denial, like all leftists or anti-capitalists. Capitalism has never done anything, because those who do it are greedy evil people, blind individuals. In a communist regime, the evil in inherent to its every nature. Look, I don't like capitalism, either. It's not good that we're ruining everything for money. BUT people in the West still have a chance, which I really don't see Russians ever having.
@@donaldmacfarlane7325 it has what?
Of course that America and England are doing much worst things than the communist. Ask the parents of the half million slaughtered children in Iraq what they think about the American capitalism, or ask the people in Libya, Sirya, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Iran, Venezuela, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Nicaragua..... What they think about the American and British capitalism.
@@xchen3079 Capitalism has done worse the Taiping Rebellion.
You know any leftist hearing this is plugging their fingers in their ears. "Nananana, we'll do it better, we'll do it right."
Yeah you can see them just not hearing this can’t you. Oblivious to truth and experience.
well the new flag has lots of pretty colours on it
@@aethelwulfwarlord1475 Or a sadist
Ash Sarwar among them.
@@baltasarnoreno5973 Sarkar, is it? "Like, I'm literally a communist" what a stupid child she is, can't believe she gets so much air time!
Capitalism: Work, or starve
Communism : Work, and starve
Pretty much.
As an economics student I learnt that capitalism is freedom ironically. At least you have a choice, I’d rather live a flawed system that needs correcting every now and then than live in a country like China or Venezuela.
Covid in Australia = Being locked in your home slowly going bankrupt while your government imports foreigners to do the work you're not allowed to do.
How about feudalism? Kids got raised in the house of the next highest class, that's how they ensured fidelity...meaning social mobility on a limited scale was actually inevitable. But dare you even talk about it?
Plan to fight wokism. 1) take away people's GCSE English if they demonstrate an inability to debate, by name-calling or labelling. 2) stop using terms like 'racism' and say 'racial prejudice' instead. There is nothing wrong with making generalisations, like 'men are generally stronger than women'. What is wrong is applying that generalisation to an unknown individual, for examplei don't assume you'll be faster than me on a bicycle.
My daughter said something about that first point to me recently. I responded that without any society people in a raw state of nature either work or die. That is no social construct, that's life.
American here.
Terrific presentation.
Thumbs up and I shall subscribe.
I am Polish ... and that was your most fascinating interview to date .. AWESOME show you two have created ...PLEASE HAVE MORE HISTORIANS ON !!!!!
@James Kostrewa - A couple of months ago, I read Czeslaw Milosz's "The Captive Mind." His account of what the Soviets did to Polish partisans who defended their nation against Nazi Germany - and to Lithuanians, Latvians, and Estonians - chilled me to the core.
Poland has a fascinating and complex history. On one hand, there were those who valiantly fought against Nazis and on the other, there were Pols who hunted and executed Jews in the forests as they tried to flee persecution.
I suppose if you destroy a country with years of conflict and instability, all the horrors and depravity contained within people will rise to the surface and spill out. They're no different to any of us. We have the makings of these mentalities in the West today. I can see it happening to any people under such pressures and devastation.
@@wiseonwords my grandma's first husband was a Polish partisan. He was arrested by the Soviets, she was sent divorce papers, nobody ever heard from him again 🙄 the poor man doesn't even have a grave to his name. The only time I felt like i was visiting his grave was when we stood in front of the prison in Eastern Poland where we think he might have been held.
@@Vivienwestphal I'm sorry to read this.
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My daughter studied political science and has never read „The Gulag Archipelago“. That’s the problem.
Likewise. I read politics at university and only discovered/read it 8 years later.
This interview makes you understand what Klaus Schwab is all about.
Does the CFR have anything to do with KS and also the Neo-Bolsheviks?
Exactly! I've heard in his office, is a bust of Vladimir Lenin!!
@@JohnBobRoger
Who is K S ? - and "Neo bolsheviks"?
All I know about the Council on Foreign Relations is that they were a party in the writing of a US govt publication ("Project for the New American Century -2000 Rebuilding Americas Defences") which announced the hope to go and destroy "7 middle East countries in 5 years". They just needed what turned out to be "9/11" to get the nation behind their idea.
So it looks like it has everything to do with "bolchevism", from here.
Schwab is a Nazi.
@@alexandrasymeon5893
Though I've yet to hear him praise Hitler. While Albert Bourla has a 5 minute video praising him for his heroic work "to create a vaccine to save the world from depopulation".
He is said to be "Jewish".
5 minutes and I am totally hooked on what this guy is saying
same. wasn't gonna bother watching this one, so glad i did
I'm a keen Triggernometry fan. This is really a top notch compelling interview you don't get elsewhere. Learned a lot.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn's great work can be listened to on RUclips.
The GULAG Archipelago
I recommend doing so before the big tech socialists censor it.
I'm simply mad for jam.
Good for you! Knowledge is power.
You get it also on Michael Malice's podcast "Your Welcome". Also on certain episodes of Joe Rogan podcast, and on Red Pilled America podcast. Triggernometry is not alone. Truth talk and reasonable conversation is growing.
@@paulrevere2379 You can also get a slightly shorter version on audiobook. It's read by Solzhenitsyn's middle son, who reads it brilliantly (and with a good dose of sardonic humour).
Once you start listening, you just keep going.
Also recommended is Amelia Pang's Made in China, for a slightly different form of "socialism" and how complicit our dear leaders are in its perpetuation.
I have met a few Russian immigrants in the United States. The last one I got to know was a child in the 1960's, orphaned and sent to the Chicago area. He was taken in by a farmer in Ohio. The man taught him to fly his crop duster. Incredible story, the guy was an experienced crop duster by the age of 14. He told me about the thousands of orphans in Russia in the 1950's and 60's. He told me Russia was not a good place to be when he was young. His story could be repeated by millions of oppressed Russian and people of Eastern Europe.
Orphans in the 50's? Normal, soviet union lost 25 million people on WWII
@@isqueirus this guy was born long after ww2, why was he an orphan?
@@isqueirus Yes, there were orphanages in the 1950s. What is your problem?
@@jerryw6699 you think there aren't orphans in all eras???
@@afuzzycreature8387 My point is clear, there were a lot of orphans in Russia in the 1960's. can i make it any more clear?
One of the extraordinary things I recently discovered is that most parents tried to shield their children from the worst of this. This has resulted in young Ukrainian and Russian adults now feeling nostalgic towards the Soviet Union, because all they remember are things like the cartoons, toys and television. They have heard the horror stories, but they have no memories from the experience of it
Exactly! Cheburashka for example! Also my nickname 😊 I call those people 'Communist Romanticists' or just poorly educated or naive or al the above 🤭
The parents are hiding their own guilt and shame, too.
Very true. After only few years of indoctrination in North American education system, I myself thought communism wasn’t such a bad idea. And that’s after escaping from Russia and knowing that my own grandparents went through the gulag system. My mother and her brother were interrogated by NKVD when her father was arrested. They were just kids back then, but luckily they were smart enough not to sign any documents. Miraculously their father was released shortly after but had to escape the country not to be sent to gulag yet again. Despite all this family history, I am ashamed to admit that I thought communism was the solution to problems in capitalism. Learning a bit more history and maturing, I now know better...
@@pavel0900 having gone through school mostly in the 70s in California, I simply cannot imagine ever thinking communism is anything but evil. I also cannot imagine what school must be like these days that made you and your peers believe it was not simply neutral, but actually good. Just can't wrap my mind around that! Good for you for retaining your ability to think and assess critically.
All rich societies shield their kids from necessary discomfort, and by doing so, destroy their mental health and waste their potentials. It seems to be the price to pay for security. I’m pretty pessimistic about the forecast.
After I immigrated to the West, I met a man who hasn’t been allowed to attend any funeral until age 21 by the mother. That man is a feeble mess, not many good things would come out of his existence.
I've watched so many of your broadcasts, but I think this one is the most important. It needs to be shared around. It made me sick at heart, but also encouraged me not to be silent. I'm 72, but I fear for the world that my children and grandchildren will live in if we stay silent.
Sorry to break it to you, but the world your children and grandchildren will live in is long gone. Keep in mind the 20th Century was just the introduction to the 21st. We havent seen anything yet. And remember, it will always be justified for public health, for safety and compassion.
@@Danny2k38 for the greater good
I’ve just read Gulag Archipelago…
The silent were treated no better than those who spoke out.
The only tiny sprinkling of respect those monsters had, was for those who were unwavering in their dissidence.
And why was not a single one punished.?
Every last 90 year old Nazi was exhaustively tracked down.
Where did those vile, evil torturers, thieves and murderers run to?
Africa?
India?
Or anywhere westerners had made nicer than anywhere else?
Maybe… there’s a third location positioned somewhere.
When Giles talked about educating the children, I felt that. It is so important going forward to have teachers with integrity and historical knowledge teaching the upcoming generation.
If this doesn’t frighten you, you’re not listening and you’re not paying attention to what’s happening around you.
It sounds rather like the Great Reset
Right ! 100+ years later and it is happening again....I liked how he drew parallels, and explanation of courts and institutions are there to secure property and the Marxist view on courts, property,,,and how anything is justified to bring about the regime, we all saw that with Democrats, anything,any lie, action, etc was acceptable to stop the organge man
Giles is such a lovely human being. Knowing he is walking around in the world reassures me.
I have arrived at this late but I am so grateful to be able to view this. I think this is so powerful. As a teacher I freeze on the spot at a realisation that humanity is capable of such atrocities and how as teachers. We have a duty to educate the future to be better.
You have an obligation to warn your classroom of the death-cult of Communism......which our schools are indoctrinating through identity politics: transgenderism; anti-racism....oppressed vs. oppressor.........same thing!!!!!
Lenin Trotsky Stalin - "humanity" ?
Look it up in the dictionary.
There are other equally vile cases of cruelty which should also be discussed. Certainly the two big ones, like the Nazi's and the Bolsheviks, but also the medical crimes enacted upon the Chinese prisoners in unit 731. Then there is Tuoll Sleng the punishment camp in Cambodia. The rape of Nanking is another. The main reason we in the west know little of these other attrocities is because of the wealthy Jewish media connections in every western country. We have been swamped with movies, documentaries, magazines, books, museums all related to the Holocaust. And there has been little room left for highlighting the other attrocities.
The country's education system has been taken over. Read The Frankfurst School : conspiracy to corrupt. Timothy Matthews Catholic Insight
Excellent guest, just when I thought I couldn’t despise communism more along comes this conversation.
Guests like Giles Udy are why I come here. Never heard of him, but within a few minutes, I was spellbound. Amazing interview, guys!
Agreed
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I am crying. The far reaching cruelty of ' human ' beings is unbelievable and needs to be taught. Thank you for this interview.
Not “humans” in general, but the ones who believed in the ideology of socialism , whether international or national
If you want to learn about that catastrophe of the Gulag camps, it’s worth the time to read the Gulag Archipelago.
@@patrickhassing120YES!
Two comedians educating the public, while journalists and political analysts keep people in the dark.
Well said!
Mainstream journalists for legacy media are paid well to keep people in the dark. They are pressitutes and wear that moniker with pride out in the public but are unable to look at themselves in the mirror. They have nice homes to hang the mirrors in however.
@Reckless Abandon You must rest now. Nurse will be round again soon with another blanket and your anti-stupidity medication
@@Johnny-sj9sj
..it's ironic in that comment you mention 'anti-stupidity medication'.
Isnt that the slow roll of communism. All little at a time. That way you never see it coming.
My cossack family mostly ended up in gulags during and after decossackization...multigenerational trauma still affects our family after my grandmother came to Australia after WW2. How she survived such tragedy mentally, gives great strength
I remember Ash Sarkar saying that the USSR made racism and racial persecution illegal in 1920... the very same year that the Soviets started the elimination of the Cossacks in the Ukraine and the Caucasus.
@@baltasarnoreno5973 I think it is good that Ash Sarkar says she's a communist and calls people "Idiots" on the TV. It allows us to know what she is. Dangerous.
@@baltasarnoreno5973 Like Konstantin, family property was taken, their library of books burned in the streets...my grandmother had to always hide her identity, language etc. You know the prejudice runs deep, when I meet Russians here in Australia, they ask where my family were from, and then they figure out cossack background and dont want to talk to you anymore...that is bullshit
@@baltasarnoreno5973 That's 'cos she's a champagne-socialist, Stalin groupie...
Yeah I just don't know if people can truly grasp what həll your grandmother must have experienced, bless her heart 🙏
I've read a lot about that period and your grandma must certainly have been deeply traumatized, as were all those who lived thru such horror.
Thank goodness she was able to make it out of there with her humanity and sanity intact to some degree. You surely got generational courage and antifragility from gramdma too- it's in your dna. 💛
Very very very very TRUE!!!! I am from Ukraine! Living now in Germany I tell this story all the time. People could not believe. To my luck my family too have made herself open to all things which they did not share much with us back then, because of the fear for our lives or at least for our normal being in that system even in 70-s......😮
This was excellent - thankyou gentlemen!
Speaking of people that came to the UK 10-15 years ago from
Ex soviet states …. Being married to a person from an ex soviet state she tells me so many of her friends are returning to Poland , Romania and Ukraine because of what they have seen in Europe over the last 5 years , she herself and more often her father who was a history lecturer in Romania tells me these woke westerners have not a Feckin idea what they are signing up for , this is how is started albeit the boogy man was the “capitalist pigs” but you could insert patriarchy , toxic males, anti lgbt , anti trans , anti science, the unclean, anti black, BLM et al , just take your pick whatever you want to single out for the cause and then spread everywhere and it went with such speed that within ten years peoples that were just humble farmers, factory workers, office workers woke up one day to discover hundreds of thousands of people were being persecuted and killed behind closed doors and all was revealed but far to late , they were now in a totalitarian state and there was no way out . It just crept up on them one edict/mandated at a time , the soviets in the early years were masters of behavioral science. You can be assured even now in 2021 when you hear that government is being guided by behavioral scientists you can also be assured things are not going to turn out well . Once a government is guided by how to manipulate a population for what ever reason be that religion , race , politics or even ‘ for the better Heath of the nation ‘, be worried , very worried .
Please stop fantasising...Everybody from Eastern Europe knows the wokeness has nothing to do with socialism, these are completely different ideas. Anyway I also grew up in the former Eastern Block. The west's idea of left is completely different from the historical socialism of Eastern Europe. You don't know what about you are talking. Anyway many people who lived during socialism have a good opinion about it. Me and my family included. It wasn't perfect but was far from the picture the west paints it. It always seemed me strange westerners who had no experience of it have the most vocal (bad) opinion about it.... Anyway the socalled Left in the west is nothing else than a stooge for the big banks and corporations, thus they are not really socialists.
@@marthas.4456 Eastern Bloc socialism and wokeness are similar in that they both restrict speech - which translates into restrictions on thought. Any such restriction on people by other people results in the same thing: enslavement. Perhaps socialism wasn't so bad for you ... but you probably didn't know any better? Pacified sheep don't complain; that's just where they want you.
@@RB-bd5tz I certainly lived through few systems, probably more than you. First the socialism up to 1989, after that a very wild form of capitalism of Eastern Europe and 16 years ago I moved to UK. So I can compare different forms of systems, I'm talking from my own experience, and not parroting others. Yes, the speech was restricted in the communist countries, but isn't the western capitalist countries trying to do same??? Powers everywhere are trying to stifle speech when it doesn't agree with them. It's a human nature. Of course we commoners should fight for the free speech. When I'm defending socialism it doesn't mean I regard it as a perfect system. No, far from it. It had lots of faults... but also the capitalist system has faults and lots of it. I'm trying to make a balance and say as it is.... There are and always were lots of lies from the West also.... There isn't a big difference between your left and right, they are two cheeks of the same ass. Both of them support the elite, which are the banks and corporations and these rule the capitalist world.
@@marthas.4456 Thanks; I really appreciate your perspective. Yes, the West is limiting speech, movement, and freedom in general. But why is that? Because they are becoming socialist. I know quite a few people from the former Eastern Bloc, who lived under communism, and they are under no illusions where the West is heading. Socialism is the thin end of the wedge to totalitarianism. Socalism is not about the good of the people; it's about control of the people. There are the privileged few, and the enslaved underclass. Capitalism is THE SAME - except, under capitalism, people can, at least theoretically, improve their lot, with some effort. There is no such option under socialism: everyone must be equal - equally POOR (except those at the top). But you're right: it's all BS, all a show, all controlled by some very rich narcissists who pit the people against each other through ideology.
@@RB-bd5tz -the West is NOT heading towards socialism. If somebody saying the opposite - that person doesn't know what is socialism. The power in the West is in the hands of banks and big corporations. The politicians are their puppets. Do you believe the owners of these organisations would want to give away their power to the state??? No. THEY ARE meddling into the state affairs... The system they want to create could be called neo-feudalism..... The industry and monetary system in socialism was managed by principles, nobody was profiting from it. Not even the high profile party members. I knew many party members and none of them were rich, but of course they weren't hight profile. Of course the ppl who had high ranking were living better than us, but even those weren't really rich by today standard. It's true if you have had above average abilities you could do much better in the capitalist countries than in the former soc. countries. But for that there were more reasons. One of the reasons is the Eastern part of Europe always was behind the Western part, even well before the WW2 thus before the socialism. Maybe the only exception was Czechia, however the other part of the country Czechoslovakia (the Slovak part) was a very underdeveloped and poor region in the first half of 20th century. From this part is my family coming from and according to my parents, grandparents who remembered the situation before the WW2, according to them the socialism was a big improvement. And actually if you tried hard you could have improved your situation even in the socialism, but of course there was no luxury. But people had what they needed.... Forgive me my rambling, it might sound incoherent to you but this is a very complicated topic and so many misrepresentations, prejudices and contradictions are in people's minds about it. But the history and politics aren't simple or straitforward. I believe the ideal society will combine the best of socialism and capitalism. Where strategic industries are state owned, so no groups will hold ordinary people to ransom, while creating a situation where small private businesses can thrive.
They had sanitized communism in our high school curriculum by the mid 2010’s. I don’t remember ever learning about it in school. I only learned by my love for history. The gulag archipelago was really shocking for me.
Me too. Changed my life
You will own nothing and you will be happy: same lie, different day.
My father studied in the USSR from 1973 to 1982, he met an old lady who had a book of intellectuals' names who used to frequent her library in the 1930s. Over time, they stopped showing up to return books they had borrowed. She went to their addresses to try and find out what happened to them and instead she found that they had disappeared.
They had been deported to the gulags by Stalin, she wanted to hand over the book to my dad but he refused because he knew that it would draw attention from the Soviet authorities.
My wife's Aunt went to St Petersburg after the collapse of communism to help set up new model of the early education units. At the time, she was a senior academic in the UK early education system and was once Her Majesty's Inspector of Schools.
She told us the most tricky thing to teach there was how to ask questions and how to get children asking questions. Apparently, asking questions was a high risk activity under the Soviet regime.
And what does she think of education in the UK today?
@@henryb160 no idea.
Haven't heard from her in some time now. She'd be around 96 now.
This is so interesting and I wish this could be shown in every school college and university
It could, but the staff are all on the other side, so very deliberately, they won't.
The colleges and universities are the problem of why kids are so messed up, i.e., ANTIFA, BLM, "microaggressions," "safe spaces." No. Forget the universities. The populace needs to wake up and educate themselves.
Brilliant conversation!!! I love that Giles made a connection with kibutz system in Israel. I lived in a Russian kibutz of all things and saw the correlation myself. My grandparents were imprisoned and escaped from a gulag, my wife’s family as well. This is all so sad yet very important to talk about, especially today. People are romanticizing communism and socialism. People need to discover the truth about all of those social experiments that took place. They need to know that those were not exceptions to the rule, they are the rule. I’d love to read his books and familiarize myself with this subject even more. Thank you for having him on your show.
Have you ever considered inviting Anne Applebaum the author of “Gulag” and “Red Famine” to your show?
His reference to the kibbutz system is an oblique acknowledgment that communism is a Jewish invention.
My grandmother, her older sister and their mother (my great grandmother) went to these camps. Thank you for telling this story
Amazing episode. So overwhelming by the sheer horrors of the past, and the looming signs of those forces coming back.
Giles' first few sentences about what he found under communism sounds frighteningly like what is happening in the west today
I used to wonder how people fell for such tyranny. Now I have a front row seat. It's both fear and envy. Same now as it was then. And I think those who support it think that they are on the right side and will never have the machine turned on them.
Boys this is offically my fav interview you''ve done.
My own early experience with commies was in my first day of college in 1971. I signed up for a course in History of European Art. The female prof came in and announced“ You may have seen this is a course in the history of European art but it’s really an introductory course in basic Marxism.” I stood up, all of 20 years old, and told her that was unfair and deceitful to list it as a course in European art when really it was a course in communism and left. This was at Simon Fraser University in Burnaby a suburb of Vancouver, British Columbia. It was only five years old then but already had a reputation for being far left politically. So this has been going for a long time. The pity is that in that class of about fifty students I never heard anyone else complain. As I left first I don’t know if anyone else walked out. At the time they just seemed to sit there inert and nodding that it was OK. They had just been bald -faced lied to about the course and just accepted it. I left Canada 20 years later and retired as a university lecturer in 2015. Look at the state of Canada now. It was facilitated by people like in my class back in 1971. They don’t know what happened.
Wow. Thought I'd watch a few minutes of this before jumping in the shower. Forget that. Couldn't stop watching. An amazingly well-told cautionary tale for these times. Best guest ever.
Any excuse not to take a shower.
@@doctorcrankyflaps1724 This is true.
@@YTbobo4u 🤣 your reply made me smile, which is good for times like these. Thank you.
Hung on every word. Agree -- best guest ever, not only on this channel but on any channel.
Better to stink than to be ignorant of evil! 😛
My own grandfather was deported to Siberia in a cattle car. He was lucky, he came back alive. This interview is very emotional for me, especially considering that the horror, the suffering, the very destruction of human condition could not even be discussed when he came back home. Stories were told only in a tight-lipped way, a remark here, a fleeting reminiscence there. Also, the returnees were under the watchful eye of the KGB. I truly commend Triggernometry for this interview. This is truly educational material for those who were not involved in that history. Yes, things were that awful and more.
Both my grandparents got out of Russia....I didn't know a single thing about it....they NEVER spoke of it.
Justinas, it was emotional for me too, and I have no family connection to it...the evil horror of the Communist regime, the sheer heartless cruelty and deceit needs to be ceaselessly taught.
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It Must be frustrating to see ignorant westerners flirting with Marxism...
@@DoomSplitta THE CIVIL WAR IN USA WAS TO GET RID THE INBRED RUSSIAN ENGLISH IRISH EUROPEAN MIXED RACE SANGUINARY / SANGUINE INBREDS AFTER 300 YEARS OF THE INBREDS TRAFFICKING HUMAN BEINGS NOT THEMSELFS AS SANGUINARY SLAVERS UNDER THE TSAZRZ AS WHITE SANGUINARY CALLED MIXED RACE TODAY AS JEWS AFTER THEY WERE THE SOVIET UNION, THERE TALMUD STATES; BY THE THE TIME THEY FIND OUT ITS TOO LATE...
My paternal Grandfather was sent to a Gulag; he was NEVER seen or heard from, again. The ENTIRE REMAINDER of our family on my Dad's side was "deported" to Siberia. The only exceptions were my Dad and my Uncle Volodymyr... Long story...
Best interview ever. This man is amazing, and all the more so to me because.... I've never before heard of him.
I am so inspired. I feel braver just having watched this.
I'm not saying Wokeism is Marxism but Wokeism is Marxism
It's actually worse. It's Marxism that also gives praise to perversity.
It's impossible to oppress Klaus, because they are the oppressive class.
It's impossible to be racist against white people, because they are the oppressive class.
This blew my mind. Completely skated over in world history classes in the US.
Then you didn't receive a very good education in history.
@@Shei-vei I can't speak for you but I learned it at numerous points in my education.
That is because Communism is Jewish!
Many of your episodes, but this in particular, made me realise how different an outlook on history we really do have depending on our geographical location. I'm Polish so of course I'm skewed, but I had no idea these things aren't being *taught* in British schools; that students in Western Europe aren't taught about the great famine in Ukraine or the USSR's involvement (or lack thereof) in the Warsaw Uprising, or the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, or the gulags. Here it runs with our blood really, both the nazi and the Soviet crimes. In the war my one grandma hid in the fields from the Red Army and the other was held in a nazi labour camp, one's uncle was killed in Katyń by soviets and the other's shot by Gestapo in the streets of Warsaw. Every family has such stories; I was completely oblivious these things aren't taught in Western schools. I'm very glad you've mentioned The Gulag Archipelago, may I recommend another great (and chilling) work by a Polish gulag survior and great author Gustaw Herling-Grudziński, "A World Apart". It's an obligatory read in Polish schools, for good reasons, and I do believe it should be widely popularised.
Sadly now, we are rarely even taught our own history (I hope to bring more attention to it). The most I was taught related to communism was the Cuban Missile crisis. Plenty on 1930’s Germany and Hitlers rise to power however.
Someone elsewhere put it succinctly, "we are taught the history of fascism, but not it's ideology and we are taught the ideology of communism but not its history"
I've been on holiday in Poland a couple of times, first to Krakow and visited Auschwitz, the second time I stayed in Gdansk and it was in the museum there I got to see far more of the horrors communism brought to Poland. The country escaped the boot of one monstrous regime to find itself straight under another. That realisation rather soured the celebration of VE day for me, especially when I discovered the Poles were not allowed to march in the celebrations... and some where sent home only to face immediate execution. It frustrates me to no end that we are not taught about this at all.
we have a systematic manipulation in our education ystem so that we don't know how communism was -
if you want to get a good insight into cold war propaganda and how deeply embedded the misinformation created by it has become in academia, look no further than operation QRPLUMB
Your schools are good schools. American schools are controlled by Marxists.
I vaguely remember reading "White Nights" back in the 70s.
It was written by Menachem Begin, a gulag survivor who went on to become the Prime Minister of Isreal.
I should read it again as I have forgotten a lot of it now.
He claimed he was sent there after the war because he was a Zionist activist in Poland before the war. before Russia took over Poland. His crime was he was an activist. Didn't matter when, it was still a crime.
Wow, you guys weren't wrong, one of the most powerful and informative interviews I've ever seen.
I am a retired naval officer who spent most of the 1980s chasing Soviets all over the Pacific. It angers me beyond belief that while I thought I was doing my part to defeat communism, the infection was spreading throughout our schools in the United States.
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Thank you, Sir. What you did was a genuine & necessary service to the nation (and all who value liberty). The breakdown did not occur in the military in the 1980s but in the complacency & cowardice characteristic of Republicans and "conservatives" throughout the US who refused to recognize the Gramscian Long March Through the Institutions already well underway domestically in the US by the 1980s. Our externally-facing military can only do so much. But the people themselves -- private citizens -- must ALSO be alert to defend our liberties and our Constitutional Republic. They've done a piss-poor job of it since our tough-minded WWII generation passed the leadership baton off to subsequent generations. Our veterans deserve our honor and respect. But "We the People" also have a crucial part to play in protecting our domestic institutions of cultural transmission (which have been the explicit targets of both Antonio Gramsci & the Frankfurt School strategists) and they largely chose not to.
Truly fascinating interview. You can tell just how desperate Udy was to tell his story.
Whoa. Fancy seeing you here.
Now if he could only warn every student on every college campus in the USA, what Communism delivers! But i fear, it is too late!
I've read Giles Udy's book about Labour and Soviets... very good, lots of excerpts from documents and of course exposing early Labour's complicity in legitimising Soviet government.
The fact that people put up with this repression is crazy…. We need to train people to fight for their own freedom- that freedom is a value in and of itself
To date this has been the best interview I’ve seen on Triggernometry. I was captivated from the very start. Brilliant work guys, and I’m off to purchase Mr Udy’s book. Thanks.
Fantastic episode. I'd love to hear more about the history of communism and socialism, which I must admit was an idea I loosely endorsed as a youngster without understanding what it truly meant and the horrors it caused
Wait until next year and you'll be witnessing it happening all around you.
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Your teachers at school taught you that socialism was good. 99.9% of teachers are leftists, and they know about as much as you do about socialism/communism.
Read the Gulag Archipelago.
I was talking to someone around my age I'm 22 who was a socialist , they aren't bad they just have no grasp on how the real world works and socialism really sell you a fantasy. I feel that's why so many young people around my age fall for it. Like shit , I would love if the government could pay for my housing, Healthcare and food but that's not how the world works. It's just scary , I worry about my future and the future of my grandchildren if we just act like socialism and communism is a ok way to run our government.
14:06 during my childhood my country was under communism. my great grandfather was sent to a concentration camp exactly for that, having a property. The rest of the family were deported from their home , not allowed to take anything with them, to a village and were banned from entering the city. When my great grandfather was released, it was in the middle of the winter, km from home, just with a shirt on and on foot. My father told me that he never spoke about the cruelties he suffered. All this time in my country (not even speaking about the concentration camps )people were being killed, tortured, not having bare products and services, no freedom of speech. There were more people killed by the communist regime than in the WWII and still almost no one is speaking about that and informing people, whereas speaking about fascists is banned. And it is really upsetting seeing so called left activists who are talking how “great” communism is and moreover complaining how oppressed they are!
I think a conversation like this is utterly vital for people to listen to and more importantly to fully absorb as best they can. The vast majority of people living throughout the West know about the numerous horrors and barbarity of Hitler’s Nazi regime, but far too many know next to nothing about the atrocities that were carried out by the various communist regimes within specific areas of the world throughout history. Fascism/nazism is rightfully viewed as being a completely unacceptable ideology for anyone to have to live under. However communism continues to be lauded and romanticized by far too many people throughout the world to this very day, and this makes for a terribly concerning and ominous situation for us to have to contend with.
The horrors of the Soviet Union were well known before 1989.
Exactly our education has had a heavily leftist slant. I am 40 and just coming to terms with it all. In fact our blindness to this may be a result of the traumas of Nazism and that we were alliesin WW2
The horrors of socialism, the Soviet variety and all others have been covered up, ignored and minimized from their inception through today, especially on US university campuses and in Hollywood films.
If the truth was given half as much coverage as the socialist promotion efforts, then you wouldn't be able to fill a small house with those who now beat their socialist drums by the millions.
Yes they were known by then. Yet we still have in the present day numerous apologists and sympathizers from all professions and walks of life who continually attempt to whitewash what occurred in countries like Russia/USSR, China and even Cambodia under their specific communist regimes. And not to mention all those who extol the various ‘wonders’ of communism within Cuba and claim that the reasons the island experiences it’s share of terrible hardships and suffering is solely due to the effects The U.S. embargo has had on the nation.
Bullshit, the right wing are constantly attempting to play these up and minimize the role of the Soviet Union in defeating Hitler. How about "liberalism"? A million civilians dead in Iraq due to an illegal invasion, Libya which was the wealthiest nation in Africa reduced to destitution and slave markets, the head of the CIA who headed up a "black site" torture chamber ... the list is endless. Lets remember that the first concentration camps were in South Africa, set up by the British. Hypocrisy certainly does stink, just like British and US Imperialism.
This is shocking how we are not taught this history is unbelievable. Thank u for this podcast ,its amazing and heartbreaking at the same time .
An apologist argued with George Orwell ‘if you want to make an omelette you’ve got to break some eggs.’ To which Orwell said: ‘yes, but where’s the omelette!’
What occurred in mid 30s isn't even known to many. I was shocked when I first learned many years ago. Not only by the cruelty but how it's been ignored.
Having lived in an ex-soviet nation for many years, the most important thing I learnt is that 70+ years of communism couldn't wipe out 'class'. As soon as the experiment ended in 89/90/91 the very same elite families took control of the new economy. 'Class' can't be eradicated from human society, hence we have to limit it's power without the need for full communism.
People with talent will always float to the top. The point is that talent (like physical beauty) is largely a genetic characteristic, honed through generations of hard work, and it flowers especially well in successful families.
Don’t agree with you entirely about the people who took control in 1990/91. Many of them were criminal guttersnipes of the lowest breeding. (Though if there is honour among thieves, you could say there is also ‘class’ among criminals.)
@Sam Black - I agree small local government is they way. Creations like the USSR and the EU are anathema to personal freedoms and common sense.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 It's not necessarily "talent". It can also be that the post -1990 legal systems in some of those countries allowed noble families to regain properties confiscated by the Communists. However, the culture of these families had allowed them to survive times of deprivation and great hardship, and so they were determined enough and in a position to reacquire some of their property. Unfortunately, the re-privatisation laws have also been abused by greedy fraudsters, sometimes resulting in the murder of those who opposed them (such as tenants of communal housing).
It sounds like class is in the DNA?
@Sam Black - Some families are considered pathological. Does that mean it’s hereditary? I don’t know. Rather it’s passed down in the family ‘culture’ (or lack thereof), and also in the culture of neighbours and acquaintances.
Thank you guys. What an amazing interview. I hope and pray that thousands of people who support collectivism have watched this video and come to the realization that collectivism-socialism-communism has NEVER solved one issue and instead, has been the cause of nothing but death and misery.
The salesmen for this ideology have a silver tongue and make it all seem like a wonderful idea and never expose the parasite for what it is.
Oh my goodness how thoroughly educational and moving this was/is. Thank you thank you thank you. ✨❤️✨
Thank you for this! Giles Udy is a dear friend, and as a Hungarian in the UK, I've always had massive respect for what he does. Keep up the good work guys! 👏
Terrific guest, could listen to him for hours.
Great talk. To my horror kids today have NO IDEA how evil communism was/is. Presumably they don't teach it in schools and today's youth are sadly intellectually very incurious, particularly regards history and other countries. Thank you. D.A., J.D., NYC
And it is important to inform our young people that the vast majority of the top Bolsheviks were Jews. Yes after Lenin died and Stalin took over it was he alone who was responsible for all the attrocities, including a pogrom against Russian Jews who he was suspicious of. Remember Hitler was the big white hope for the European countries who thought he might be a good buffer between them and the bolsheviks. Trouble was that Hitler had ideas of his own.
@@den264 I think those people were blamed for capitalism and communism technically
@den264 The perpetrators of the Coup that led to the Russian revolution were Jews. The Red Army was founded and led by Jews. The first Soviet Politburo was mostly Jews. The NKVD (Soviet secret police, precursor to the KGB) was formed and run by Jews. The Gulag system was mostly run by Jews. All these facts were well known in the 1920s-1940s but now erased from our consciousness.
Brilliant. I was about to go to bed but I was riveted by the passion and depth of Knowledge of Giles Udy. I'll be getting his book.
Listening to these stories, and the freezing conditions, I am surprised that anyone at all survived. Brutal.
You ask - what can you do about it? Doing these kinds of videos to educate the public is a start. I found you here by happenstance as I have been watching all kinds of videos on YT. Use social media, so many people are watching and learning on social media - also, make a feature film and send it out into the theatres and the streaming services, to create a buzz. Go where the eyeballs are and get in front of them.
@Kauf Frau Apropos, ''Kolyma Tales'' is a good read. Also John Noble's story ''I found God in Soviet Russia'' Then there is Yuri Vetokhin's story ''Inclined to Escape''.
@@shaiaheyes2c41 I have read a book about Kolyma, also Solzhenitsyn- Day in the life …and First circle. Devastating is putting it mildly.
@@kauffrau6764 My last reply disappered so I will just try to leave some book titles here: Ivan Bunin "Cursed Days", George Popoff "The Cheka", "Sofia Petrovna", David Satter > "Age of Delerium", "It was a long time ago and it never happened anyway", "The Less You Know the Better You Sleep". "Anti-Humans Student Re-Education in Romanian Prisons" by Dumitru Bacu, John Noble "I found God in Soviet Russia", "Kolyma Tales" by Shalamov, "Stalin's secret agents in the Roosevelt government" by Herbert Romerstein, "The Great Terror" and "The Harvest of Sorrow" by Robert Conquest, "Hellstorm" by Thomas Goodrich, "Grusome Harvest" by Keeling, Golitsyn "New Lies for Old" and "Perestroika Deception", "Other Losses" by Baque, "The Iron Curtain Over America" by Beaty, "The World Conquerors" by Louis Marschalko, "The Secret World Government" by Count Cherep-Spiridovich, "Biohazard" by Ken Alibek, "Spetsnaz " by Viktor Suvorov, "Red Mafyia" by Robert L. Friedman, "Among the Red Autocrats" by George Solomon.
Yes well apart from one movie called Gulag made in the 80's the movie industry has a lot to answer for, it's virtually ignored these atrocities, but of course according to them the nazis are the worst of the worst, well actually we should be seeing many more movies made about these stories to show that the nazis weren't the only totalitarian regime that did horrible things, it's important people know and learn so history is not repeated.
@@iggyblitz8739 Agree. Do you know that Bill Burr, the comedian, does a bit about this? He compares the Nazis to Stalin, and how Stalin destroyed many more people.
Born in a Kibutz in the end of the 60s and can corroborate what is said here about the Kibutz in Israel. Those places mostly became privatized by now. Being born there I could see how the socialist ideology does not fit human beings and could never work successfully.
very interesting, care to share any stories that stick out about your experience?
Yes, please do, I saw similar things with hippy communes in the early seventies.
I've lived and worked in both a kibbutz and a hippy commune...I had a wonderful time on the kibbutz but saw how equality is a dream and that there is always a hierarchy....Also I saw the damage that taking kids from their parents so early did(they were put into children's houses on the kibbutz and hardly saw their parents). Also I noticed a very paranoid atmosphere....gossip was rife and there was very little real privacy. However there were lots of good things....all eating together...feeling part of a huge family....working hard and getting respect...and tons of fun. The hippy commune was a total nightmare from start to finish. No system will work properly until we do something about the psychopaths who live among us and cause a disproportionate amount of harm.
@@JTP_Trades will be happy to share, might not be as brief as usual comments.
Here is one glaring example,; The Kibutz tried to hold the ideal of a pure socialist commune, that means that no one has any private money (or other assets) and all the money belongs to everyone, in other words belong to the cooperative. At the end of the day, although money belongs to everyone, you need someone to deposit checks you get after selling the milk or getting cash from the bank to give to someone who need to go on a bus to the city etc (obviously not everyone in the community can get access to the Kibutz bank account… ha ha I can see Marx is already rolling in his grave hearing that :-) , so the council of the members of the Kibutz chose the Kibutz Money Manager and since it was obvious to everyone that this person has some power that the others don’t have (so some inequality already) the term of a Money Manager could not exceed two years, after a few years passing by you start to notice a pattern that there is indeed rotation but the same three or four guys are doing that same job over and over, the reason is that not everyone on the Kibutz can do this job, as with any random group of people only a few has the qualities and skills to do it… so those four people and some other people in a few other key positions are starting to dominate the decision making and control information and access to different things like money budgets etc (since they have leadership and communication and sometime other required skills) and they become the de facto ruling class, so equality is hampered by the obvious fact of life that people are different in many ways and in order to operate in a reasonable manner any organization (even a socialist one) have to take in consideration merit over equality in many cases.
@@grannyannie6744 where? Did you live in one? I used to live in a French hippy commune in South India, but in this millénium.
Excellent interview. I didn't expect to be so gripped from start to finish. Please have Giles on again to further the discussion!
50:00 this is how my mother ended up becoming an engineer in Romania. She wanted to become a teacher, but the party decided there is no more need of new teachers, the country needs more engineers for whatever industrialisation project. So they reorganised the whole education sistem and started training engineers. My mother was forced into an entirely different class than she originally planned. From grade 9 her path was set out for her.
This is one of the very best conversations you've had in all the while you've been doing your thing. Once again Triggernometry boldly goes where the legacy media fears to tread.
Another amazing interview! What I love so much is that you guys let the guests talk and talk and we REALLY get to tell their tales. It's so refreshing just for that. It's about the guests, not about your egos. I really really hope you never change.
Another excellent episode and guest. This should be taught in all schools and universities.
Check out the old KGB station museum in Vilnius Lithuania. They had a narrow cell with a metal plate in the middle of the floor surrounded by ice water. You either stood in the ice water or on the metal plate.
Horribly creative.
Great interview! I grew up in Poland in the seventies, came to live in the UK in 1981 and could never understand the fascination with communism by the British labour party supporters. So much ignorance on the subject. Let's enlighten people with historical facts by amazing speakers like Giles Udy.
A Lownie.' Stalin's Englishmen' on Guy Burgess. A noted British spy for Stalin is a interesting study of the motivation of old Etonians like Burgess. Burgess was a British diplomat, PA to the second Foreign Office Cabinet Minister, Hector McNeil, Far East specialist who recommended the UK recognise Red China. Possibly those from exceptional privilege and wealth in the UK/USA in the 1920s and depression were shocked by the industrial exploitation of labour and unemployment and had unrealistic beliefs in human equality and education based on the French Revolution and Rousseau.
BEING TOLD BY GOOGLE `` NOT TO HAVE ANTI-ZIONIST COMMUNIST GULAG CONCENTRATION CAMPS THOUGHTS OR EXPRESSING THEM ABOUT THE ZIONIST`S X-SOVIET UNION THE U.S.S.R ; AS THE SANGUINARY BS`S THEY ARE AS A SPECIES OF SUB-HUMANS AS A DIFFERNT RACE OF SANGUINE ?🖕
It seems to be creeping into the west
I’ve watched this episode of Triggernometry more than any other. Please get Giles back on, I can’t get enough of this. I need more discussion on this subject. I despise communists and socialists.
He also talks about how tied up the Truman administration, media and worse still academia were with Soviet influence. This is the major reason people don't know. It was actually illegal to criticize the USSR during and right after the war.
It’s still “illegal” to criticize CCP in China 😑. I used to comment under the online news while it was still possible about 8 years ago, nothing harsh, just some analysis on events. My mom later got several phone calls from the National Security. They didn’t even call me, they threatened my family directly, they just wanted to show me how easy it is to know who I am and to get my mom’s number. I stopped commenting immediately, their message was well received, I have to say. 🤣
His name was Alger Hiss. He worked for the State Department and UN under both Roosevelt and Truman.
Thank god we have trained historians who speak Russian and great books to learn about that period and it’s evils.
@alex a large number of Truman's senior advisors had pro soviet leanings . This fatuation academia left has with the leftist isms. Truman's staff was compromised to the hilt . Hiss and the UK Cambridge 5
@@whatsamattau4749: Because of espionage concerns about Hiss, he was to be removed from the State Department. President Roosevelt favored this. Hiss was removed in 1946 during the Truman administration, and installed at the Carnegie Endowment.
This is a fascinating interview. He had me hooked when at the start he mentioned how everyone had a story of a family member suffering a horrible experience. I grew up with many Ukrainian friends in high school. I never could totally relate or understand their culture; well as much as I was exposed to it . One was a very vocal anti-communist and one day he opened up and mentioned how when his mother was a young girl, her mother was shot and killed in her own home by a Russian soldier, right in front of her. Who knows what tales the others are carrying in their souls.
Same her. 👍
Horrible!!!!
Thank you for doing this interview. A very educational topic for youth today and i hope you keep doing more like this.
Brilliant interview, guys. I have watched almost all of your podcasts and interviews over the last few years and I think this one of the very best and most important that you have done. Upvoted a thousand times.
Fascinating. This has never been taught in schools, but should be.
Giles was so very interesting. So loquacious, eloquent and accomplished on these topics; it was incredibly engaging. I'll be picking up his books. Great guest.
If only the Palestinians had eloquent, erudite advocates like Gioes speaking out for their cause, they could have their lands back in a jiffy.
Fascinating subject
Most memorable moment was why the is no Shindlers List for the Gulags
Sadly the answer is fairly obvious
The arts lean to the left and you can't critisie your own side
It is worth mentioning that both the book by Solzhenitsen and the 1970's movie 'One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich' come close to a portrayal of what life was actually like for prisoners in the Gulags. In terms of the depiction of the ridiculous insanity of the Stalin dictatorship, Armando Ianucci's 2017 film 'The Death Of Stalin' is worth a watch. (Ostensibly played as a dark comedy, it's actually a chilling and accurate account of the endemic corruption of the regime at that time.) Interestingly, I'm sure Mr. Ianucci would consider himself very much 'of the left' and yet his film is a scathing attack on the Soviet system. xx SF
Plenty of high ranking Js in the soviet system.
@@dolphin069 85% actually. Not to mention the Cheka death squads.
Just posted this on Facebook writing: "I'm very disturbed by the ongoing romanticizing of Marxism/Socialism and the Left's complete denial of their own history (and ongoing story). If you don't know what I mean you need to see this.. 😧😢😡"
I hope they don’t shadow ban you :)
North Korea has suffered this level of unbelievable oppression continuously for a hundred years.
Absolutely loved this interview. Thanks guys
7 years of Triggernometry. Tons and tons of great episodes. This one here is the absolutely best of all-time. It's a keeper. Thank you Francis and KK
You guys are the highest level of AWESOME! Thank-you for what you do
please invite Mr Udy again to contnue this conversation. This is so important.
Great show.
Can you get Frank Dikötter to tell the similar extraordinary story of the Chinese revolution?
(Land reform, struggle sessions, mass killing of landlords, collectivisation, mass famine, cannibalism, Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, Red Guards roaming the streets with automatic weapons, etc, etc.)
It would be great to have him on to explain the insanity of Mao.
Yes agree. Let's hear about the Maoist madness. We need to understand how stop the red youth being bred in our education system at this moment.
Interesting interview. Thanks guys. What you are doing is important in the sake of free thinking.
Absolutely terrific interview. Excellent guest and I am really looking forward to reading his book. I am delighted that there are people in the West who are speaking out and letting people know these stories and the evils of communism.
This is quite astonishing to hear his story - that he visited and saw how things were in Russia. The Gulags was a book I could not cope with and never finished - I was so horrified that humans could do what they did to fellow human beings.
The thing that woriies me most. We're still capable of repeating those historic atrocities.
Communists are not human beings.
@@Lurch685 they are us. They are humans who are fallible and capable of being indoctrinated. We have to remember that about ourselves. Even for those who oppose Communism. Extremism happens on both sides and we have to understand what makes people susceptible to becoming Communist. Dehumanizing them is what they did to others and we make it easier to view them as without value. That is what leads to these atrocities.
@@Lurch685 that is precisely the sort of way of seeing the world that leads to the soviet gulags or nazi death camps or the rwanda genocide - its dangerous to start viewing other people as unhuman.
Thank you for being listeners- so informative and and scary at the same time!
Wow this is such a good conversation.
Probably my favourite ever interview with you guys. So informative and moving. You guys rightly left him to talk when he was on a roll, then asked poignant questions at the right points. Seeing KK emotional was a very touching moment
I've been to Norilsk for 2 weeks in 2002. I can corroborate Giles' stories. Certainly two weeks of my life I will not forget.
China did the same as wiping out their own soldiers upon returning. It was the ROC(remnants that fled to Taiwan) after expending energy fending off the Japanese was then overrun by farmers in the name of "social justice". Stories of violence against own family members or school teachers are around as well.
This discussion helps clear up a lot of mixed messages I get about communism and Russia / Stalin/ Lenin. They are being discussed in such a great light these days but I always feel like the whole killing people and letting people starve gets brushed under the rug. Communism is not the answer to predatory capitalism.
@R Tim Unfortnately, and fatally, true. In Poland, thousands have died because the Law and Justice Party did not want to displease its more anti-vax constituents. It is a crime when poll standings are given priority over human life. Vaccination should have been made compulsory for all many months ago.
Absolutely! Its irritating that there is an assumption that if you are against capitalism then you must be communist. Being against the exploitation of people isn't bipartisan.
@@angeltangle there is no “exploitation of people” in capitalism.
@R Tim if you enjoy paying 60-85% of your income in taxes to the government.
The Scandinavians do precisely nothing correctly.
@R Tim private companies are less likely to rip you off because they have a bottom line to worry about. They have a reputation. They’re also more likely to give you a better result, because they have an incentive to perform. Government is gonna take your money regardless, and they have precisely zero incentive to provide you a good product or service.
1:03:00 This man truly has understood Communism.
I am glad he is here and shares his accumulated wisdom.
This episode is horrendously underwatched and needs to be massively advertised and shared.