Machining CPVC on the K&T MILL Grinding Milling Cutters & Brian Block Visit.
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- This week I work on a paying project made from CPVC and I machine it in the K&T mill. I get pulled in a lot of different directions in order to pay the bills this week and only get to show a fraction of what went on. Big thanks to my friend Brian Block for stopping by the shop and giving me a hand with the power scraper. Consider supporting Steve Summers RUclips channel
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It's awesome to see Brian transferring his knowledge out. You two are lucky to be neighbors.
Morning Steve! I'm suprised that Brian owns anything that can be hand held.
No kidding... Brian's idea of "Small" usually masses over a ton...
I'm probably the only guy here that's thinking who's Brian
@@gabewhisen3446 If you check out bbloc's channel, go back to the early videos - he turns a dilapidated, collapsing barn into an incredible shop, doing jobs alone that rightfully should take a crew of 4. He basically accomplishes it using sweat, perseverance, and complete ignorance that it can't be done.
@@gabewhisen3446, to add to Rod Fitzsimmons Frey’s reply, Brian farms usually corn that goes to making bourbon, is rebuilding his barn/ shop, does all kinds of machining jobs (a lot of John Deere engines and transmissions, mostly big jobs) he also has a full time job at a (I believe) John Deere dealership. Mostly by himself!
Brian has amazing content i have watched most of his vids
Hi Steve, I used P.V.C. blocks about the same size as die shoes for Electro-Chemical Machining Dies. Salt water forced under pressure through deep intersecting holes of machined castings and a Stainless Steel electrode inserted down to the point of intersection would de-burr the area using and a charge of high voltage, low amperage electricity. All of this took place inside a metal cabinet with slide open doors. I dis-like drilling large holes in P.V.C. as the drill always wants to grab the work and suck it up into the tool. I found that negative rake on the drill point cured most of that.
I like using Kerosene on my stones, and leave a puddle on the work while rubbing. That keeps the stone from getting embedded with those pesky little bits of metal.
Thanks for the vid!
The blocks are a great score. I have never seen them that big. Great to see you back at the tools at home. Having/getting work from your day job is a real bonus. I am sure they really appreciate having someone with as many talent's as you have on their staff. I have watched you display sooooo many different trades done like you have been doing them for life. It wouldn't surprise me if one day seeing you cut diamonds, LOL. My younger brother and your lovely Elizabeth have that same thing going on with all creatures great and small. It is a true gift few of us have. I have my grandfathers scrapers (made from files) and his 18 in. surface plate. I find scraping relaxing and soothes the soul. I think that a power scraper would take the romance out of doing scraping. It is a thing that has always had my attention and respect for those that do it. I am going to catch up with the fella that made that avatar for you. I need a nice new sticker to send along with my poured silver sales. You two remind me of when my late wife Mary and I were young like you two. Great post my friend. My Saturday can now get going. Nothing happens as I have time for 2 mugs of coffee watching a young fella just like me post just really, really nice videos. Take care eh ! ! !
Two legends in the RUclips machining world. Brian I hope that Bailey approved this visit.
I just noticed the large speed dial on that HZ mill, how cool . That fits right in with the bandsaw dial.
Block is the man! love his channel
I wish I had the horizontal support for my K&T 2H Plane. I can't complain to much though, it was scrap metal at a wrecking yard when I got it. It did come with plenty of rust though. Lol. thanks for the videos! :)
Glad I found your videos...I am a former manual machinist, went to school for four years to learn machining and after a few short years of working in shops was forced to go on disability. I loved machining specifically manual machining like most of the things you do, anyway finally got around to getting a small lathe and am planning on building up as I save more money. I really enjoy watching your informative videos and look forward to seeing many more.
@Jason
Let us all know when you start up your RUclips show & tell...O.K.???
Ken
Happy Saturday Morning Steve, Family, Gritts, and Brian! I am so pleased to see some of my favorite folks get together. I know I spend my time wisely watching you all. Great content, always something different , helpful, and inspiring. Thanks for taking the extra time to share even little frogs. God Bless Steve and Family.
Thanks for watching Roger, great to see you. We enjoy seeing the wildlife, it's one of the reasons we decided to live out where we do. 👍
That CPVC part has to be a lap pool for tiny frogs.
Winner😁👍 Great guess
Spring peeper! I miss them from when I lived in Appalachia. We do have green tree frogs here in TX. 😎
Good show Steve,
The new channel art looks very rock and roll...
Take care.
Paul,,
Thanks Steve. Nice to see your machines doing work again.
My heart bled for the man having to do all that construction work.
You are a brave man drilling the CPVC upright in the press unsecured with that long and large diameter of a drill dit. The torque I have seen demonstrated when plastic heats up and grabs a large diameter drill is just incredible. To each his own I guess.
It seems braced again the table, so it could not spin away.
@@markoantesic4362 look closer, one side of the CPVC plate is up against the table. That will not resist the torque if the bit grabs, the other (unsupported side) needs to be braced opposite to the table so as to resist the torque completely. The only thing that would prevent rapid escalation to a bad day is the drill bit and supporting system, nothing good would come of that. When you make your money with your hands and machines, take care of both of them with safety and proper diligence.
Minimal risk
Steve was using some coolant.
Seeing your videos of scraping helps me to understand why Robin Renzetti wanted an EXTREMELY rigid and immovable workbench for scraping.
Good stickers...
Good video...
Steve, i am constantly impressed by the variety of work you present to us viewers. poppy's workshop says HI
Need an overhead vacuum hose and shop vac for this job for sure. 😁👍
Two of my favourite RUclipsrs. Brian is great and very knowledgeable.
Good one . Cheers .
Still use white lead to lube my lathe dead centers.. 68 years old .. Only lead I ever worried about was out of the barrel of the gun of a jealous husband. Not a problem anymore lol...I use white lead, cast lead bullets for my handguns.. We worked tons of lead at work.. Just don't eat it... Cheers from Louisiana.. Mike
Thanks Steve, love the new artwork. Who would mess with a squirrel weilding a spray welder? Not I. Best wishes, Dean in Oxfordshire, UK.
I used to cnc machine cpvc a few years back. Used a komo cnc router with a 5x10 table. We made parts for semi conducted industry. That stuff ate inserts like nothing
Thank you for sharing. Watched and very much enjoyed.
Your mill is a beautiful old piece of iron
Thanks for everything you do!!!!
Great to see you and Brian collaborating and hanging out. Great video, thanks.
As always, a great start to my Saturday morning. Thanks Steve!
"It doesn't make it any less fun." That is where you're supposed to click the "Like" button. Right there... I love watching Delrin and PVC generate huge loops as they come off the lathe.
Accept the tiny staticky chips that stick to your face like magnets I'd rather watch someone else turning plastic
Good morning, nice shirt. That's the name of our military group in Louisville. Thanks for sharing 😊 George from Indiana
Hiya Steve
Worked for a welding shop back in the 70's that was fabbing steel for cknstruction at Ft. Campbell. Required red lead primer.
Steve, another great video, Thanks
It looks cool with all those chips, a candidate for chip of the week maybe?
28:16 Well there's a good neighbor!!👊😄
good video steve
Good video. I have always enjoyed working with plastic, harder on tooling though. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks, and stay safe.
Great content all really interesting and informative too. Love the tiny frog Elizabeth is the real deal country girl . Brian's a good guy to have around , but he's like a whirlwind so busy and an all over one man army.
Wait on buying a used vehicle, once the new ones come out for the year, used ones will drop significantly in price. The used market is crazy expensive right now…
I wouldn't bet on much price change. Market will be tight for a while, since manufacturing either stopped or slowed down considerably in 2020, therefore stock was depleted so much that buyers turned to the user car market, making a run on that supply. Then add to that the free cash people got, and you have a classic supply-and-demand picture, meaning it is a seller's market and won't change for at least a couple of years, waiting for new stock to exceed demand. Also viewed as inflation.
I watch Brian's channel when he has new videos. I think he stays busy with his day job and farming. I know he likes those little micro machines. (;-) Scary when hew was lifting that radial drill and a hoist cable broke. Ya' had to feel for him.
Two of my favorite RUclipsrs in the same video. How good is that. Plus a beautiful lady.
8:00 So this is the first of your vids I've watched having come here from Keith Rucker - who stated he sends his cutters away for regrinding or buys new. That was great - makes me feel legitimate in doing the same.
Now here, I see how easy it is to do !
Maybe this was what I needed to spur me on to getting up and running !
Very interesting and entertaining, as always. I used to make some of my own lab equipment at the university and my friends in the shop would always be delighted when I made something out of Delrin or PtFE. I would do my best to clean up the mess, but invariably chips would hide in places no one would expect them. Thanks for another great video.
Sounds very familiar 😁. I make all kinds of lab scale equipment. Plastics can be alot of fun the machine. I really enjoy machining delrin but dont like the smell all that much 😁. Thanks for watching.
Mould for a press to make some part or vacumn forming mould...heat plastic and add vacumn and pressure to hold it till it cures...
Maybe a fibreglass mould?
Your giant plastic mystery part looked like a lot of fun and looks great !
Hope Elizabeth knows that Jeep is an acronym for "just empty every pocket"...
Tell me about it. I'm not a jeep guy. Nothing against those who are . They are fun. They are also way over priced IMO.
@@SteveSummers Not just overpriced, I live in a small state in Australia and have heard some horror stories from mechanics.
Anyway wanted to say love your channel.
Steve’s still here at the end of the video, I guess the frog didn’t turn into a prince 🤣
I was a frog once. Now I’m a prince of a guy in my singular opinion.
A while ago i had to cut blocks of plastics often. So i made up an arbor for circular saw blades for may horizontal mill. You can even cut hotrolled with carbide tipped blades.
Anyone else get a tingle when debuting the pvc? 😀 great job Steve…
Nope. "debuting"?
Deburring?
Great Saturday morning video Steve and Elizabeth. I'm taking wild guess they are going to be parts of a fuel cell. I know it's proprietary. Just thought I would guess. Great to see you and Brian collaborate together. Enjoy the weekend.
Saw tons of those little frogs when I went down to land between the lakes last summer.
MUY INTERESANTE GRACIAS POR ESTOS VIDEOS !!⚙🔧⚙🔧👍👍
Thanks Steve and Elizabeth.
Awesome as always Steve. Thanks for bringing back the outro music 👍
Gray snow everywhere. LOL
Good luck finding a deal on a Biax!
Steve, I don't know if you needed a shop vac or a leaf blower or both.🤣 factor in clean up time with set up time.🤣 Shop looks great, good video, Thank you.
Hey steve, how about using a TCT timber circular saw blade to do such cuts? Bigger depth of cut and a much much thinner kerf. Less waste, less heat.
Nice change of pace for machining ops on plastic, rather than steel. I bet the shop vac put in for overtime, cleaning up all of those chips off of that operation. Cool stuff!
Super ❤️
I remember I was at a Foster's Old Fashioned Freeze fast food restaurant, and it had a sign which said, "If you have time to lean, you have time to /clean/."
When my wife and I were first married we would go to either Friendlys or the Pie Plate for Saturday’s supper. At Friendlys the manager would often sweep up under the empty tables in between greeting customers and running the cash register.
I see many had the same thought of a vacuum cleaner for the CPVC chips.
Big machining, needs big set up blocks. Every year, I have thousands of frogs smaller than my little finger nail. First time I saw them it looked like the ground moved when they all jumped! A friend of mine who was a submariner, said they lost a lab in the sub when a an individual who who was getting out, puff red lead through a pipe penetration from the room next door, as a joke. The room had to be sealed until deconned, and the individual was court marshalled. Hundreds of thousands of dollars for the decontamination.
thanks for another great video steve. i was looking for a power scraper myself these things from biax are very expensive here in germany too. hope you'll find a good deal yourself, all the best!
Build one yourself like CaLem did here: ruclips.net/video/_nCGMDBjyH4/видео.html
Use a cheap ($24.99 USD or $48.99 USD) Harbor Freight reciprocating saw or the equivalent
saw from Aliexpress or Banggood.
@@cogitoipsum9627 awesome, thanks! even tho' i usually know watch all of his videos but i somehow must have missed that one. will check it out. cheers.
Great video 👍 Steve hope this work project you get paid for time and machine time electric etc.
Electricity? That's like that employee that asks for the $0.35 to be reimbursed because he drove a mile to pickup coffee for the office. Just kidding. Electricity, lubricants machine wear, etc are included in the machine time rate.
The little frog is called a peeper, on warm nights go outside and these little ones are the ones singing their songs.
Tool sharpening is an art in itself. I ran a lot of horizontal Cincinatti #4 machines when I worked for the Boeing company in Macon Ga. Made all kinds of setups cutting all kinds of materials but mostly aluminum. If you run wheel cutters your cutter grinder man is a good friend to have... Hi Brian!
seems like a vacuum hose clamped near the cutter might be a good idea
i am apparently the nine thousandth person to have this unique insight
Hi Steve and Elizabeth ☺ man that'll take some cleaning up, as per your new sign,lol, interesting project, And Brians a great guy, love watching him whith the big machines, was that a baby frog or fully grown?, well spotted Elizabeth, thanks for another great video, stay safe, best wishe's to all, Stuart uk.
at 0:50 your chair is sayin am i a joke to you? lol
We have tiny tree frogs all over here in Western Washington, they'll cling to the side of your house near lights waiting for bugs.
My Guess Some sort of a chamber lid or cap for a vessel used for alternate fuel development. Nice Video Steve
It's wild just how much debris that piece generates.
Perfect use for a shop vac, IMO.
nice work on all your projects , looked like holding that block in the vise to scrape it was a little to high for comfort
Lovely job on that flux capacitor end plate! All the best from the UK
This video was still fantastic, even though you lost some footage.
It also makes me think, could you imagine trying to get through the day without having something like the Noga deburring tools handy? I'm a believer, and I still shake my head at how long I kept with the older methods like using only a file for deburring.
I fabricated a dummy load for a microwave setup at work that looked a lot like that.
The loss tangent of the CPVC and water combine to effectively capture most of the stray RF energy.
27:17 Sort of looks like a praying mantis devouring it's dinner! :)
@Dudley Middleton _It's the female mantis pulverizing her mate after coitus._ 😂
more like Roberto from Futurama
Miss Elizabeth gonna add "Frog Whisperer" to her resume'
Pvc is an interesting plastic. When in a state where it can off gas for example when Moulded or melted/burnt, the gas will actually cause steel to rust. Quite nasty stuff.
It's chlorine gas and HCl (g) that turns into HCl (aq) when it combines with moisture in the air. Hydrochloric acid and Cl (g) causes metal to rust, but as you said, it only happens in specific scenarios, and it's not really an issue in most situations.
I did not know that! Thanks, I’ll try to catalog that in a brain wrinkle somewhere.
@@littlejackalo5326 yip. I encountered it in the mould, tool and die industry while working on injection moulds.
I hope your employer pays you the going rate for those custom jobs. I did similar work for mine charging them only for materials for custom electronics devices . Then comes COVID and I am laid off. Lesson learned. Lets' see what that custom work costs then on the open market!
First thing that I noticed when I went to your RUclips channel home page was the different avatar image.
It was good to do some scraping again after a few years break. Power scrapers sure beat chicken scratching! lol
You got that right 😁. Its at least 8 times faster with just as good or better results. Thanks for stopping by Brian. You are welcome back anytime.
[7m43s] [Twin Peaks theme music starts playing]
Prussian Blue is used as an antidote for heavy metal poisoning, so as long as you eat more blue than red you should be OK.
(I don't actually know if it works for lead, it is mainly used for Thallium and Caesium poisoning).
Lead (and some other "heavy" metals) is preferentially excreted in saliva. So keep spitting!
My left brain keeps screaming somebody get me a shop vac omg its going everywhere lmao
I took a scraping class years ago, using red lead, and tried to get some. I was told it is now illegal in my state. Eventually I found Dykem Hi Spot and have used it ever since. Good results.
If he were in California his entire shop would have to be cleaned by a hazmat team. According to prop 65, just entering California exposes you to carcinogens.
@@mikefox5510 Yeah, that's what you get when you give ecofreaks a little power. Used to ge a great place to live, now all the smart one are leaving. Only reason I'm still here is for medical reasons. Otherwise I'd be packed and gone...
When I lived in Austin, we had tree frogs about that size .. Noisy little critters...
Like #859
Thanks for the video!
Life is a learning curve!
HINDSIGHT is 20-15!
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we kept our stones in a pan of k-10 with a sheet metal lid
I keep a block plane to brake the edge on plastic and al.
Those CPVC chips look like thousands of crayons were sharpened
Looked a little like a baby leopard frog....more brown than I'm used to but I grew up much further north
First today Hi Steve nice project.
I think 18:30 would be a good candidate for the Instagram chip of the week!!!
Been wondering what do you do with the waste? Plastic, metal, etc... whatever you get from you work?
Excellent content,Steve....thanks for showing. But please, get that workbench mounted ridgid to the wall....that gives me eye pain.....
I found that Ridgid tools has messed up my spelling of rigid too. That pesky "d" in the middle of the word. I always want to spell refrigerator as refridgerator because the shortened word, fridge, has a "d" in the middle for some reason.
@@littlejackalo5326 u´re right, i´m sorry
Looks like you sheared a sheep on the mill there!