The Ultimate Smoker Comparison
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Awesome test Brother 👍 love it. Subbed right a way
6:29 "Oh I almost forgot that he's in LA!"
Thanks for running this experiment! I’m very happy with and proud of my offset smoker today. A TRUE CHAMPION!
Never too old to play with smokin' BBQ! 🥰
GREAT VIDEO Mad! It was great to watch, and putting your favorite smoker out there is a challenge.
I have a YS1500 and an offset smoker. I've learned that you have to do things a little differently with the pellet smoker to get the best results. First, you have to cook fat side down. The heat comes up through the holes in the HMS plate and will dry out and /or overcook the flat if it's down.
Second, I use an Amazen smoker tube, usually filled with cherry pellets for extra smoke level (and I like the color). Finally, I use Mesquite pellets, or 50:50 Mesquite and Pecan. With the lower smoke level, the meat can easily take the stronger Mesquite smoke. With these adjustments, my pellet smoker results are pretty much the same as my offset.
So, all in all, a good test, but there are some variables that need to be accounted for. The methods for an offset smoker don't necessarily apply to other types of smokers.
Finally, I'd love to see how a gravity fed smoker fares against an offset and a pellet. I'm not too interested in the ceramic grills, since I rarely smoke one brisket at a time.
thank you for a great video, really enjoyable to watch and different to anything else i have seen before. love your content and would love to see more comparison videos
Kamado guy here, I love the results. I'm not naive enough to think it's on the level of a good offset. Great experiment. I appreciate the effort that went into this.
I also love my Big Joe. They all have their ways of cooking, that's for sure. I'm not so sure the results were as much about the cooker or the one doing the cooking. Cooking on a Joe is a lot different than an offset. I don't think anyone complained, you cooked a ton of briskets that day!
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I’ve been watching your videos for months and just ran across this one. This is the best and most unbiased comparison I’ve seen and very similar to my own experiences. Love the pellet smoker but just can’t get the flavor I want so my Brazos is what I use when I want real bbq and the pellet is used for my weekly meal planning due to the ease.
So jealous, you're cooking with some of the best equipment!! I'm favoriting this video so when I do upgrade, i can use this video as a reference
Of all your videos (and I've watched a majority) this is one of my favorites - I use an reverse-flow for my business and appreciate the comparison throwdown - great job Jeremy!!!
Awesome study Jeremy, thanks for taking the time and sharing.
Hey Jeremy great comparison video. I'm also a huge fan of the offsets, I've got an octagon 48x24 reverse flow and a 500 gallon straight flow both made by me and they put out amazing food. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work my friend.
I really like your videos, both informative and fun. I still love my YS640!! I've had it for 8 years and it still produces great food.
Tremendous video Jeremy! Thanx for a great comparison.
Great video.... I have a Lang 60 Deluxe reverse flow and have never looked back. I cook several hundred dollars every weekend. Key to an offset, (pass through or reverse flow) is fire management and constant babysitting. All starts with the wood and fire on an offset.
Thank you so much for this video, I was debating whether to get a pellet or an offset, Im going with the offset.
Well you proved what I expected. I just don't need to cook that much food at once. I would like a video on backyard smokers covering what to look for in units including firebox designs, grates, how the heat and air flows, constant temp across the gates, and chimneys. Thanks for the video as it helped me to decide to look for an smaller offset if I can find a quality one.
This was super useful. Thank you for doing this.
Thanks a bunch for confirming that my work and sweat is worth it. Stick burning offsets rule.
David Russell lol me too
Yeah big sigh here
U THA MAN !!! Thank you so much for the tests!!! U put in a ton of effort !!! Wow..And I agree with your synopsis !!!
Definitely my favorite video you’ve done! Amazing job!
Steven Delgado
Thanks!
Finally got to see this all the way through. I figured sample d was the best. I told Eric the same thing. Glad I got a chance to try some amazing bbq. Thanks for all the hard work you put in. It was Delicious and much appreciated. 👍👍😎🔥
Brilliant video mate! Seriously, that was a great comparison video and for a beginner like me, very informative. So thanks for taking the time to make and share the smoker test video Jeremy! PS. I am pleased to own a regular flow offset. Cheers
Marky Big Smoke
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Cool video bro!! I bet that was a tiring day. Keep on putting these out!
Good job on the video and reviews. They all seemed to enjoy the BBQ ! Thanks for sharing with us. Keep up the good work.
OLD DAWG DREAMING
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Loving watching your videos man. I'm getting my own house very shortly and ill be getting an offset smoker to start smoking anything I can get my hands on. I have been watching a few of your videos and I am learning so much! Keep up the quality videos!
Lowes has great cheap entry level offset smokers thats where i got mine to practice and hone the craft till i spend the $800+ on a legit one. I spent 200 on mine and it works great.
@@chefwest77 Awesome! Thanks for the head up! Ill consider it for sure!
Wow, great comparison!!! Very helpfull! Thank you! 😁
Great comparison tests!! Always listening to you .... Thanks.
Steve Jang
Thanks!
Great video....awesome test....and makes me feel better hahah
I’ve followed you for years and this is your best video yet. Fantastic content! And as an owner of both a brazos and kamado joe (big joe), you verified what I’ve believed for some time. Stick burning reigns supreme!
bjonesy09
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Loved the video!! Just shows how much taste is a personal thing.
Excellent video, Jeremy! I own two COS, a WSM, a propane cabinet smoker and an electric smoker for when the weather is completely unbearable here in Chicago... always burning cooks in the COS cookers so until I can save up for a real offset, the WSM rules! 😉
Keep up the great work!!
Jeremy, love your Vlogs... glad you are back!
Pirate Ron
Thanks!
Love it thank you for making this video.
Great video. I own several types of smokers so I can relate to this video well. I have never done such an extensive test, so I thoroughly enjoyed the video and the results. I tend to gravitate to my less labor intensive smokers, but I respect the results you have found here. Thank you for producing this comparison. I am now a subscriber.
Harrill Wiggins
Thanks man!
AWESOME Video Jeremy! I figured that but now conferred, love my offset but my drum is so much more ease and consistent. even my Bradly is nice in the winter
East Coast Tony
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Love the video Jeremy! I’m a big fan of offsets myself and especially reverse flow! But I’ve come to love my PVC! And I would love for you to try one out and compare it to your office at and see what you think. Try to Pit Barrel Cooker.
Awesome and very informative,,, Thanks a lot Jeremy, I currently have a Meadow Creek TS70, a weber Smoky Mountain, and a Weber Summit Charcoal Cooker. Still Love my Meadow Creek Offset smoker and I'm needing a bigger one in the near future and I'm more and more starting to like the Fatstacks.. So the more Fatstack comparisons you can do the closer you have me convinced on them.
Finally I needed a mad scientist fix , We have missed you !!! 😆
great video and happy you are safe after the drive by shooting around the 6:28 mark lol
Excellent video. Because of the growing popularity of pellet smokers, I wonder if you could do a pellet grill test using smoke tubes? I have an offset stick burner & a pellet smoker. I use the pellet smoker about 90% of the time because of time available & convenience. Using the smoke tube seems to help quite a bit. Thanks again for all of the great video's. I just finished the video on fire management and it was the best video on fire management I have ever seen. Stay safe
Best video yet! More tests like this in the future please.
texmsmrfc
Working on tests
great test thanks
Extraordinary comparison! Thks for sharing
Mike Ruiz Esparza
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Great comparison video!
Great vid! Wish I was there. Where would you place a Gravity Fed smoker in this lineup?
Awesome brother looked like a cool little experiment, especially for a noob like me. Keep it up GC
Hey Jeremy, great experiment it looked like a ton of fun and probably the most complete one of these type of experiments I’ve ever seen done. The only thing I could possibly think you could do to make it a little more complete, other than adding more smokers to the mix, would be since you’re such an offset expert at this point would you think that really knowing how to dial in those cookers vs some inexperience on the other two cookers played a roll in some of the final tally. Again I thought this was great and in a non lab setting it’s almost impossible to remove all the variables but I wonder if it could have been any closer if you had someone as skilled with kamados running the Joe as you are at running the fat stack. Again really cool and if I were you I’d be lookin for an excuse to run this again with some more cookers hahaha 👍. Have a good one bud
Likely not. There can’t be that much difference in the human contribution. The Joe ain’t the same.
Great video. I was there and those results are spot on.
Perhaps one of the best BBQ experiments ever done on the Tube. I personally own a YS1500 as well a s a KJ ceramic but I'd agree with the results based on my personal experience also. Problem is doing commercial quantities on offsets day in day out is a bear compared to pellets so the compromise was struck. Awesome job Jeremy and hi from Australia.
dougjoha
For sure man. For most people, the inconvenience of running an offset makes it impossible to bbq frequently. I think pellet smokers are at this point the best compromise between flavor and convenience. You might not make franklin brisket, but you can still get 95% of the way there.
This was a really good one. I don't usually comment on these things, but I loved this. Pretty much what you'd expect to. The only thing I consider when choosing which of my smokers to use on a given weekend - is weather or not I have the time to run the offset. Sometimes Ill run the offset but only up to the point of wrapping, then transfer to butcher paper and finish in the pellet smoker.
Chris Renz
Makes complete sense
AWESOME VIDEO!
Totally agree. I own a Komado Joe and I always felt the smoke was lacking but this is a side effect of the efficiency it brings to the table. I have found that since I started using a temp control fan that it significantly increased the airflow and created a better smoke flavor.
The Slo-Roller wasn't used though...I feel that for it to be apples to apples when trying to compare tye smokey flavor that it needed to be used.
i got scared when that 'engine backfired' and the tires screeched. great video Jeremy as always. love the scientific method in action especially with BBQ
Jesse Wilburn
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Awesome comparison, have been wondering if I should upgrade to a reverse flow.
Incredible. Great work! I cracked up at the gunshot and peelout and the extended horn honk. Also you should grow out the stache
Colorado4x4
Wife won’t let the stache happen
Great test brother! Best Q channel going by far
Another brilliant video, Mad Scientist.
I'm not shocked by the results. I'm striving for a reverse flow offset smoker. Not many options here in UK, but my friend is a fabricator and he is going to make one for me. So.... Boom!
i have the traeger pellet smoker....love my set up. i live in an apartment, so its super easy for me to use on my patio.
Just an overall great video. As a BBQ channel from Santa Clarita, you did a great job. Just a lot of great knowledge . Keep it up.
Josh and Babe
Thanks! I really appreciate it. It’s an experiment I have been wanting to do for some time and finally got to do it.
@@MadScientistBBQ Agreed, great content. Cheers from Ventura CA. 🍻
I have an offset vertical smoker. Where would you put that style in ranking vs reverse flow and traditional flow?
You sir, earned a new sub here. I have a KJ Big Joe and get rave reviews about the food I produce on it; so far I’ve catered three large weddings and have another coming up in 2020. My plan is to open my own bbq joint in the next five years and I’ll have to go to a commercial sized pit but which one? A Cook Shack, Southern Pride, custom built? So many choices. Keep up the awesome work, great show you did here.
Mr Cue
DM me on Instagram if you want to chat about it. Happy to give my opinion
6:29 when he hears a shooting and then a car crash...but everything was fine.
You're best vid so far.
Hey Jeremy my understanding from what you said about the reverse flow smoker is that you could potentially run a less clean smoke as it will be more forgiving while the smoke filters over time?
Fantastic video! Absolutely love your stuff, Jeremy!! Was a big time kamado guy for years UNTIL I had food from a stick burner which I hadn’t had in quite sometime. Night/day difference in quality of smoke profile. Bought a nice stick burner and absolutely loved the food coming from it. Problem was I lacked to time to use it as often as I would have liked. Sold it and now have a MAK pellet grill. The MAK has actually become my all-time favorite smoker (and grill)... and I have had quite a few over the past 25+ years. Never thought it would happen, but I have become a pellethead... lol. From my experience, once you have had food smoked with pure wood and proper airflow... it’s hard to go back to smoldering chunks. At least that’s been my journey :)
robbtwalters
I get what you mean. There is no replacement for a real fire but a well made pellet smoker can get you close without the hassle of spending your whole day running a fire
A definite advantage if time is on a crunch.
I haven’t used my offset smoker much since I’ve had a pellet smoker (RECTEC Stampede, mini before that). So very very very convenient. I get much better sleep by smoking brisket on the pellet than I did on the offset.
Joe H.
I feel that. Any time I bbq I expect to get little or no sleep.
my question sir is, which one is better for a commercial application? the reverse or the regular flow smoker? please advice thank you
Possible the best video you have ever made!
Morris Lightman
Awesome! Thanks man
Nice video! Thanks!
the fatstack smoker is the same with offset smoker the you have said in the beggining?
Just curious.....what are your rub preferences for these briskets......salt and pepper?
Dude you have some crazy drivers out there. Drive by shooting and constant horn blowing!? What in the world?
Anyway this is an awesome video. The results were somewhat predictable once I saw the intro. I would agree with these findings just on personal experience. You just can’t beat real wood. Nice work man. Keep the videos coming.
On a standard offset (not reverse flow) does the location of the smoke stack (above grates, at grate level, or below grates) make a difference?
Great job, I do a little BBQ in Belize down south in Central America and all 3 types of smoker except the Egg and for me the regular flow would be 1st, reverse flow 2nd and my Traeger 780 3rd overall.
I'm getting a smoke tube for the pellet grill to see if it would intensify the smoke flavor. Maybe a little insight on this please from your expertise would really help me. Overall GREAT videos all the time and looking out for the next one.
Thanks for the info..regards
Good video. Luckily I bought the off-set model you recommended in a previous video. Still learning, and that’s part of the reward for the effort.
Great job! Looking forward to whats next.
GS S
Thanks!
Really awesome test Jeremy! Now Do this again with the Old Country and Masterbuilt 1050 Gravity charcoal/wood burners! Even though I'm a lifelong Missourian, I recently ordered my Masterbuilt 1050 from BBQHQ in Simi Valley and was curious it looks like the place is huge! Happy Smokin!
Great video!!!!
Great test Jeremy
What brand of pellets did you use? Pellets are a huge fan for when it comes to smoke quality in a pellet grill
Great video glad to be part of it. What temperature did you run the Yoder ?
Hahaha!!! Died laughing at the backfire. . Sounded like someone just got executed !!! That was the best!
What flavor of pellets were in the Yoder pellet smoker?
Great video! Thanks. I'm thinking of buying my first stick burner and the vertical model (versus standard or reverse) fits my needs the best but do you think the quality will be the same or similar to the other stick burners?
As long as you can manage the fire (no nasty smoke) like Jeremy has shown in other videos, it should work fine.👍
I'd love to see you do this with entry-level equipment.
Like Masterbuilt/Char Grill electric smokers, Weber charcoal kettles, cheap kamado style grills, propane, cheap zgrills/other pellet grils, etc.
The best way to buy a grill would be if you could taste a bite of food cooked off each.
Great info
Nice comparison and props for doing it blind, otherwise it would have been meaningless, You do great work, Jeremy! Thanks!
Interesting results! Though I would have guessed about the same. I have a Weber Smokey Mountain which is probably comparable to the Joe. Since I've owned it I have learned of the poor air flow but it's nice to not have to babysit. One day I probably will get a stick burner as getting a Pellet smoker doesn't really seem all that worth it as I think I can improve upon cooking with the WSM by making some adjustments.
Great job 👍
Enjoyed the video. Do you think that having the fat stack loaded up with more briskets than the others could have had any affect on the flavor?
Just curious what brand of pellets and wood type for the pellet smoker?
Great video! I have an offset and will never give it up, but I'm intrigued by the Yoder pellet smoker. Question, what are those tiny smokers on the ground?
Those looked like Green Mountain Grills pellet smokers.
Not sure if I missed the fuel but what wood was used?
Enjoyed watching the test. Couple of suggestions on the Kamado Joe ceramic cooker. 1. Looks like the grill used in the video was new, the inside still looked like new ceramic. The food will taste better if the grill is seasoned (much like one would season a cast iron skillet) before it is used for comparative cooking. 2. The location of the wood chips in the fire box determines the amount of smoke that makes it to the meat. Fire follows oxygen and since the oxygen source in a kamado cooker is at the bottom of the fire box, the fire will move to the bottom of the fire box. For the best smoke flavor, place the wood chips at the very bottom of the fire box then put enough lump charcoal for the cook on top.
sore loser
Really enjoyed this video and my guess that the offset smokers would come out on top in smoky flavor turned out to be right. But I didn't expect the pellet smoker to do better than the Kamado. I'm trying to decide between a Kamado and an offset as an upgrade to my Weber Smokey Mountain. This video has me leaning toward the offset.
If you have the time. Offset. IMO
Just a note, the types and manufacturer of pellets used can also obviously make a difference for the pellet grills.. sometimes a pretty huge one. For a while I used Traeger pellets and while I couldn't complain.. I never went WOW this is awesome. Then one day I switched to Lumberjack pellets (either Hickory or Competition Blend) and while I'm not saying they're the "best" (I'm still experimenting) but even the aroma of the smoke itself made you think something good was cooking and the flavor of my brisket was like night and day with even the smoke ring so much improved. It was literally no comparison.
That might make an interesting comparison video for the future too.. just saying. Especially since a good majority of us "casual" smokers tend towards the pellet grills for the sheer convenience.
ElectricLuvz I agree as well about the lumberjack pellets. I use 100% hickory and it’s made a huge difference.
I use lumberjack pellets too. Great product. MHC and OHC are what I use the most.
@@great207 he used lumberjack lol. It's in the description
I have a home-built reverse flow smoker that I use charcoal and wood on after using gas to heat the baffles. Not sure if that's competition friendly, but the blending means that I get great efficiency across all fronts, and (mostly) everyone likes the barbecue from it.
I do have to laugh that a Traeger ad ran before this video :D