I would highly recommend using Scotch 2228 Mastic Tape around a suspension fork before wrapping the stays around. This will really hold everything in place. I Have it on my carbon MTB bars that holds my Timber bell FIRMLY in place. Same for anything you don't want to spin on any type of a bar. Plus, it TOTALLY protects the bar from scratches. Thanks for the review!
I'm trying to figure out how to attach such mount to a fork that only has dropout and lowrider mounts. Ortlieb's website implies that the band clamps are not recommended for forks with tapered tubes. Guessing gravity would eventually pull them down and loose. Same problem trying to mount Outershell Adventures bags as well.
Russ, great review as usual, but leave it Ortlieb to over complicate the install process (and I'm saying that from nearly 15 years of Ortlieb use!). Their products are truly bombproof, but they love some over engineering.
@@PathLessPedaledTV I must be strange. To me, Ortlieb's versatile attachment hardware is completely intuitive, requiring a minimum of parts. In the case where you're mounting to a shock, the same screws that attach the big plastic part are the same ones that tension the clamp -- brilliant.
Hey Russ, thanks so much for your channel!! I want to carry my (small) tent on one side and my air mattress+ on the other. I see that these bags are about 4 litres, but I wonder... ** How big that is in a practical sense?? I bought Problem Solvers' Bow Tie brackets, but I haven't put them to the test, yet. ** How you think this Ortlieb system would compare to random dry bags w/the Bow Tie brackets + straps?? Any relevant feedback will be greatly appreciated! 🚴Sojourner
Hello Russ, I am really interested on using the bag in my Mibo Mastr 16” kick scooter for light touring, but because the fork is quite short in length due to the whee size, I would like to ask if it is possible to measure the length of the adapter as the specification sheet mentions 22cms height but it doesn’t clarify if this refers to the actual bag or the adapter. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work! P.S. you guys where the inspiration to choose my Brompton’s color in the now discontinued claret!
The second option would be mine, as my bike is older and doesn't have the mounts and i wouldn't want to go the route of having them made. I use hose clips - well I will be when I get round to it.
Was really interested in these for a suspension fork 27.5 + bike. Not so sure now, but look forward to your long term review. Would like to see a overview of the various options to mount stuff to a suspension fork. I believe you did one a few years back. Any chance of an update video?
Nice looking bag and thanks for the review. That mounting system for the suspension fork seems like a pain and poorly designed, I'll be avoiding these racks. Thanks
This looks pretty cool, and compatible with my bike that has limited fork mount options. Can the mount be removed easily so just the clamps are permanently on the bike? Or is it more intended that the mounts are permanently or semi-permanently attached as well?
Hi Russ, do you know if the plastic mounting spine can be securely mounted to the 3 eyelets on a Tumbleweed rack, or does the mounting spine need more surface area like the fork blade to be stable/secure? I believe you have both items, so I thought I’d ask. Thanks!
I just did this on a Tumbleweed T-Rack. It works totally fine just like on a fork... BUT, you must use shorter 20mm countersunk-head M5 bolts (Got a set of various sizes from amazon about 10 freedom bucks). They are 5mm shorter than the bolts supplied by Ortlieb. Running the 25mm supplied bolts are too long and will damage the Tumbleweed rack.
I would highly recommend using Scotch 2228 Mastic Tape around a suspension fork before wrapping the stays around. This will really hold everything in place. I Have it on my carbon MTB bars that holds my Timber bell FIRMLY in place. Same for anything you don't want to spin on any type of a bar. Plus, it TOTALLY protects the bar from scratches. Thanks for the review!
Top notch review/tutorial as always Russ. Thanks for all you do!
Nice. This could be just what I've been looking for to balance out my touring bike!
Thanks for pointing out incompatible forward facing fork mounts.
ortlieb now makes an adapter for these kinds of angled eyelets on the fork. 45 to 30 degrees adapter.
Thanks for video
Very straight forward installation 😉
I'm trying to figure out how to attach such mount to a fork that only has dropout and lowrider mounts. Ortlieb's website implies that the band clamps are not recommended for forks with tapered tubes. Guessing gravity would eventually pull them down and loose.
Same problem trying to mount Outershell Adventures bags as well.
Love the voile strap watchband :)
Nice video. Stay safe!
Pretty cool bag and system. Just what I've been looking for on a suspension fork. Thank you russ. -- now... where did I put those bolts?
I can't believe I never thought of using a lighter on shrink wrap
Additional mounts can be found for $14-$18 from online retailers.
Great video, I have bought these bags and will be fitting them soon, your video will be really helpful, did you do an update video?
Russ, great review as usual, but leave it Ortlieb to over complicate the install process (and I'm saying that from nearly 15 years of Ortlieb use!). Their products are truly bombproof, but they love some over engineering.
Yeah. Not super intuitive so we thought it was worth a video.
@@PathLessPedaledTV I must be strange. To me, Ortlieb's versatile attachment hardware is completely intuitive, requiring a minimum of parts. In the case where you're mounting to a shock, the same screws that attach the big plastic part are the same ones that tension the clamp -- brilliant.
Hey Russ, thanks so much for your channel!!
I want to carry my (small) tent on one side and my air mattress+ on the other. I see that these bags are about 4 litres, but I wonder...
** How big that is in a practical sense??
I bought Problem Solvers' Bow Tie brackets, but I haven't put them to the test, yet.
** How you think this Ortlieb system would compare to random dry bags w/the Bow Tie brackets + straps??
Any relevant feedback will be greatly appreciated!
🚴Sojourner
Hello Russ, I am really interested on using the bag in my Mibo Mastr 16” kick scooter for light touring, but because the fork is quite short in length due to the whee size, I would like to ask if it is possible to measure the length of the adapter as the specification sheet mentions 22cms height but it doesn’t clarify if this refers to the actual bag or the adapter. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
P.S. you guys where the inspiration to choose my Brompton’s color in the now discontinued claret!
👍
Hi! Is it possibile to mount the plate in a fork with 2 eyelets? Which is the distance between the first and the third eyelet? Thanks
The second option would be mine, as my bike is older and doesn't have the mounts and i wouldn't want to go the route of having them made. I use hose clips - well I will be when I get round to it.
check out the thule pack and pedal
Do you think you could use SKS cage mount brackets instead of the Ortlieb metal bands? Do you still use these packs?
Was really interested in these for a suspension fork 27.5 + bike. Not so sure now, but look forward to your long term review. Would like to see a overview of the various options to mount stuff to a suspension fork. I believe you did one a few years back. Any chance of an update video?
The other option is using a hoseclamp.
I think you can use the WolfTooth BRAD system on the CutThroat to get the bag to work.
Hi Chris, have you tried this? I bought the bag thinking there had to be a solution for the cutthroat but I'm at a loss.
Nice looking bag and thanks for the review. That mounting system for the suspension fork seems like a pain and poorly designed, I'll be avoiding these racks. Thanks
If u see a better one let us know 🤷🏽♂️
@@PathLessPedaledTV How easy is it to spin the clamp and mount around on the fork after its been fully installed? Thanks
Hackgolfer it doesn’t move.
thule, pack n pedal...
This looks pretty cool, and compatible with my bike that has limited fork mount options. Can the mount be removed easily so just the clamps are permanently on the bike? Or is it more intended that the mounts are permanently or semi-permanently attached as well?
They are more semi-permanent.
Come a long way from Blackburn "Low Riders" !
Do you think those would fit over Wolfooth B-Rad adapters if the mounting holes on my fork are not standard?
Will work with the Twofish 3-bolt adapters as well?
Hi Russ, do you know if the plastic mounting spine can be securely mounted to the 3 eyelets on a Tumbleweed rack, or does the mounting spine need more surface area like the fork blade to be stable/secure? I believe you have both items, so I thought I’d ask. Thanks!
I just did this on a Tumbleweed T-Rack. It works totally fine just like on a fork... BUT, you must use shorter 20mm countersunk-head M5 bolts (Got a set of various sizes from amazon about 10 freedom bucks). They are 5mm shorter than the bolts supplied by Ortlieb. Running the 25mm supplied bolts are too long and will damage the Tumbleweed rack.
Thanks, exactly what I was waiting for 👍
Already asked my dealer to order it.
When will the extra mounting plates be available?
Ortlieb sells them for $20 now
@@chrthiel I have them on two bikes now. They perfectly fit one Bosch frame battery and a charger in a single bag. Best bags for ebike touring.
So long term review probably does not exist or?
Seems overly complicated. Will those hose clamps with the nut for the bolts work (can’t remember the brand...king cage?)
That’s why we made a video.
No.
What is wrong with using a generic type of screws?
Sure. If you want to go the trouble of finding the right countersunk, length and thread screws.
Are they sold separately?
Yes.
Cool system. Stay safe Russ
Wonder if the brackets could be installed without metal bands but with buckles and straps
That sounds like a good way to put a strap in your front wheel.
who on planet earth came up with the idea of forward facing fork mounts?
Def seems dumb.