Are We Better Off Buying Digital Games? | Continuing the Physical vs Digital Debate

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @elmasheavy89
    @elmasheavy89 7 месяцев назад +29

    With physical games without an internet connection required, you have control over how and when you play your owned games.

    • @alphonsejohnson5601
      @alphonsejohnson5601 7 месяцев назад +1

      I agree. A bunch of indie games with physical versions don't require downloads, You can pop the indie games in and start playing.

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand 6 месяцев назад +4

      With DRM free digital games you get that control but you can also make as many backup copys as you want and don't loose the game as soon as the physical media breaks

    • @ChosenOne-il4bm
      @ChosenOne-il4bm 5 месяцев назад

      Why is it so hard for video game compnies to reprint copies like movies
      including every new piece of hardware has the best hardware to play any game going back to ps1
      i would pay a extra 100 for the newest console......

    • @Kimvanloocke
      @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

      @@KeinNiemand companies do not do DRM free exept GOG and thats only digital on PC i would love all games DRM free lifelong access with no added cost but buying the games and a controller keyboard and mouse are not my thing

    • @Kimvanloocke
      @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ChosenOne-il4bm Licences expire in parts of the game also companies want enoth profit even rights holders may not have a copy so after sales without a copy Backup it just stops existing and no longer be made to remaster Kingdom Hearts SquareEnix had to buy a retail copy to regain the asseds because they had nothing saved thats why disc is better learn from companies mistakes

  • @elmasheavy89
    @elmasheavy89 7 месяцев назад +17

    Physical is always better, because you do own your physical offline no live service games.

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand 6 месяцев назад +6

      DRM Free digital is better (like on GOG), if you really want to you can just burn the insaller to a disc and make your own physical copy

    • @matthewrodgers740
      @matthewrodgers740 5 месяцев назад +2

      That’s called piracy Brother and that’s a violation of intellectual property law

    • @Kimvanloocke
      @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

      @@KeinNiemand GOG your dependent on them and Internet wile disc more independent

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Kimvanloocke Your are no more dependent on GOG then your dependent on amazon or the brick and mortar store you bought your disc from.
      You only need Internet to download the game once, after that the game is just a file you which you can copy and backup as much as you want without ever needing internet or gog again, it works offline. If you want you can burn your gog game to a disc if you really want it on a disc instead of ssd/hard drive.

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@matthewrodgers740 If you give the disc to anyone else then sure that's piracy but it is legal to make backup copies for personal use as long as you are not circumventing any DRM.

  • @Laz3rCat95
    @Laz3rCat95 7 месяцев назад +8

    They both have their pros and cons, and I also decide on a case by case basis whether to get a game physically or digitally (if both options are available)

  • @InvaderTAK1989
    @InvaderTAK1989 4 месяца назад +6

    Something a lot of people don't realize is digital is NOT the enemy. The REAL enemy is DRM. DRM affects BOTH physical AND digital releases, in MORE than just games! We kill DRM, we solve so many problems with media as a whole.
    As for handling gaming-specific problems, honestly a lot of the problems stem from consoles and how locked down they are. So the first step is pushing for consoles to be more open. If the manufacturers won't open up their consoles, then we just ditch them and start gaming on PC exclusively. Either way, if they're not already, PC gamers should start demanding things like Linux support, server tools for online-only games, going back to how patches/updates USED TO BE before Steam came along (when they were in a more "sharable" format), and other things I can't think of at the moment.

    • @Kimvanloocke
      @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

      Its the companies forcing DRM The REAL enemy is companies Greed and low values to uptain more money lack of care, service, interest in own products being inhumane

    • @user1-theOG
      @user1-theOG 2 месяца назад +1

      With or without drm, you can't resell digital games which is not suitable for me. Of course drm free physical games is the ideal.

    • @Aldenfenris
      @Aldenfenris 28 дней назад +1

      The enemy is the host of digital, and the person handing the licenses to purchases. DRM is very much an issue I'm general, not just digital.

  • @eternaya
    @eternaya 7 месяцев назад +8

    I'm done buying digital games.

    • @GamersFan-r1i
      @GamersFan-r1i 8 дней назад +1

      Same here Digital I Stoped. I used to buy on Steam but now i wil leave. And go back to Discs.❤

  • @LiveForFuntasy
    @LiveForFuntasy 7 месяцев назад +3

    9:03 I'm just now learning that Spyro 3 had glitches that got fixed on the reprint. No wonder I had issues with my black label copy.

  • @xDeliv3ratoRx
    @xDeliv3ratoRx 7 месяцев назад +8

    As a working adult I've really come to appreciate decluttering my apartment. I don't have a single videogame as a physical copy nowadays even though I was a fervent believer in physical media as a teenager/young adult. I've only held on to my boardgames but even those get annoying as they just take up precious shelf space and add to the clutter.
    So yeah, practical reasons and convenience win the argument for me even though I'm fully aware of the problems with how companies handle digital media and digital media access.

    • @brenobonfim5749
      @brenobonfim5749 8 дней назад

      You call clutter, i call decoration. What the hell i'm gonna use instead, fucking plants?

  • @tomparkin2068
    @tomparkin2068 6 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve gone back and forth with my opinion, but as I get older I find either that I don’t have the time or don’t have the mental bandwidth for gaming so to speak.
    Because of this, I’m all for both but for different reasons. Physical for things that I’d like to play once and trade in, to receive as a gift, or generally for better value on launch. Digital for the convenience of not having to change a disc which is essentially a license key, and ultimately to save on space. Also, if something happened to my console/physical media then my games would remain intact on my account.
    Both are as good and as bad as one another, and I’m done pretending otherwise. I’m not worried about losing my digital games because I consider it highly unlikely, but if it did then I’d have moved onto the next thing/stage in my life and I doubt I’ll have the time to replay my library - as long as I get my value out of it at least once then that is all that matters. Besides, physical can get lost in a fire, flood, burglary or to disc rot just as easy - nothing lasts forever, even ourselves, so I don’t really see the point in stressing over bits of plastic when I can enjoy the experience that’s in front of me at the time.

    • @Kimvanloocke
      @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

      librarys and accounts can be blocked, deleted, access removed preserving the memory perserving the past we try to made it last if its importend to us

    • @Kimvanloocke
      @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

      @@tomparkin2068 you try to keep what you cherish love digital they take it from you physical media handled with care can last a long time and even burnd to ashes its still more then nothing companies have no intrest in preserving games so we have to on our own if you value what you have

  • @Cyberbrickmaster1986
    @Cyberbrickmaster1986 7 месяцев назад

    I live in Tasmania and it takes around 4 hours to drive from a small city in the North West coast to Hobart. And that's just travelling to cities on the highways or the main roads. It would take even longer to travel from somewhere like Smithton to Port Arthur. And when you take in account the main land of Australia, it would literally take days to drive from Melbourne to Perth. And if you were to drive to Adelaide or Sydney, you would essentially be driving all day just to get there in one go. Australia is a big country, but it's mostly baron due to it being one huge scorching wasteland. And that's why we have one of the least dense populations in the world.

  • @pheria
    @pheria 2 месяца назад

    I'm a bit mixed on this too. I like owning digital games because it doesn't take up physical space (I've mostly bought physical games and I have a lot of them) and I don't have to worry about something happening to the physical space itself, like you mentioned. I also worry a bit about the extra introduced points of failure. It's rare, but the media itself could rot or fail (I had a faulty Puzzle and Dragons 3DS cartridge) - as could the disc drive/cartridge slot. You could probably repair them, but the latest consoles starting to tie the drive to the console or require an activation is nuts. I like the idea of transitioning to be mostly digital, but man does a game getting delisted or a store getting shut down set off the anxious FOMO. But really, if you think about it, that's future me wanting physical games- it doesn't matter if I already have the game and it gets shut down (at least until the ability to download purchases also goes away, but that takes much longer typically), it's curiously only the games I don't have and in the distant future that need to be physical, not the ones I buy now (though, you can make an argument about 'supporting physical so it continues to exist, for sure').
    Sometimes having a box with the art for a favorite is nice too, though :3 It would be nice if we could have the option for either for every release, but we may look back fondly to this time in the future and remember when we still had a choice for a lot of games, so we should at least enjoy having that for now!

  • @Sevent77
    @Sevent77 7 месяцев назад +2

    Better of not really but not much like have a choice given that these days all the companies put on physical media is a download link or a unfinished game.

    • @Kimvanloocke
      @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

      unfinished game can be both if company cuts losses cuts support even paches updates sometimes never fixes the game

  • @Aldenfenris
    @Aldenfenris 28 дней назад

    In a vacuum, even ignoring "you own nothing" physical is better as long as you can store the disk safely and or have any updates on a backup. Only time I consider digital a "good" option is when the price is lower, from s reliable place, and that I can make a backup of my own somewhere, which kind of means my better option is technically both at once.

  • @Larry
    @Larry 7 месяцев назад +4

    A lot of the time the physical copy is the day one unpatched, buggy version of a game. So if it's got a lot of problems, you're going to have a problem. Then again, if there's an amazing glitch unbalance that gets patched later, then you're golden. Elden Ring and Tears of the Kingdom come to mind there!
    But one great thing about digital is you can use super cheap foreign codes. The Xbox UK store has a Crash Bandicoot three pack (CB Trilogy, Racing and 4) for £109, I grabbed an Argentinian code for £4.

    • @WebstersYouTube
      @WebstersYouTube  7 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, the absolute state of some discs and their content, or lack thereof, is why Does It Play is such a great resource.

    • @Larry
      @Larry 7 месяцев назад

      @@WebstersRUclips It does take the mick if you're going to be paying £50 for something that's going to be little more than a drinks coaster in a few years time.

    • @claudiegarnier4560
      @claudiegarnier4560 4 месяца назад

      Digital stellar blade got censor3d

  • @scottmartinho1311
    @scottmartinho1311 6 месяцев назад +2

    It depends theres nothing wrong with either even a disc if you dont own the software the disc is also useless you cant rip from the disc you need the rom

    • @matthewrodgers740
      @matthewrodgers740 5 месяцев назад +2

      It is not that you don’t own the software you do not own the rights to the intellectual property you own your one for one copy of said software that was sold to you under a perpetual license

  • @MillhouseSpeaks
    @MillhouseSpeaks 7 месяцев назад +30

    ‘You’ll own nothing and be happy’

    • @tomparkin2068
      @tomparkin2068 6 месяцев назад +2

      ⁠@SkyDragonElite literally this. Took me years to realise that there was little point in amassing a physical collection as it went mostly unused, so it was therefore a huge waste of money and space. Sold it all bar for a small handful and I’ve never looked back.

    • @Lonelyboy0-u5n
      @Lonelyboy0-u5n 5 месяцев назад

      Voting system on my wallet will be command

    • @BigViewership
      @BigViewership 5 месяцев назад +3

      I’ve gone physical my whole life across consoles but the games just take up space, I sell for fraction of purchase, and I hate swapping out games. I love ease of digital. It makes me very happy having all games on console so that’s what works for me

    • @BaldHeadedBastard
      @BaldHeadedBastard 5 месяцев назад +2

      You can lose digital games. I had a friend who got his Xbox Live account hacked. Lost every digital game he bought. It can happen.

    • @matthewrodgers740
      @matthewrodgers740 5 месяцев назад +1

      Stfu you are ignorant

  • @elmasheavy89
    @elmasheavy89 7 месяцев назад +2

    You might need space, but ultimately it’s worth it

    • @RaMMy96
      @RaMMy96 6 месяцев назад +1

      @SkyDragonElite yeah, to you.
      You do you, let others enjoy whatever they want.🫰🏻✨

    • @buttercakeluv
      @buttercakeluv 6 месяцев назад +1

      @SkyDragonElite I second your comment. Also phsyical media owners constantly look down on digital media owners for no reason lol.

  • @mss490
    @mss490 Месяц назад

    I haven’t had a corporation break into my house and steal my physical games.
    So far this gen, I can’t count on my two hands the number of digital games that console platforms have stolen from me and/or many others in the gaming community, whether out of incompetence or actual malevolence. I’m done with digital unless it’s without any DRM, whether purchased or cracked.

  • @Kimvanloocke
    @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

    unfinished game can be both digital or disc if company cuts losses cuts support even paches updates sometimes never fixes the game

  • @barryaldridge1113
    @barryaldridge1113 Месяц назад

    For me I buy both digital and physical games without doubt. Digital does help the indie developers and publishers a lot. I prefer physical games personally and but I don’t mind getting a digital game if I know there is no way it will ever get a physical release. I do believe digital is the future but also I believe physical has a place if done right.

  • @jvictor3104
    @jvictor3104 23 дня назад

    My ps4s external hardrive ,Lets say a game gets delisted , will keeping it offline let me keep the game? , I mean they are on the harddrive and i can play them offline now

  • @GREENACEx009
    @GREENACEx009 4 месяца назад

    Even though every bags on xbox in 2024, I was super happy to get my series x with a disc drive mainly because I have a whole collection of my Xbox OG, 360, and One games that were all mostly backwards compatible.

  • @myria2834
    @myria2834 Месяц назад

    You own your physical media, digital is just an objectively inferior and overpriced extended rental.
    The biggest example of digital being the worse version is the fact that devs frequently patch out licenced content once the licence expires. Something physically impossible for them to do to a physical disk.

  • @Hynotama
    @Hynotama 7 месяцев назад +6

    I just don’t care how expensive it is for corporations to produce physical media. Sony raised the prices during their most profitable year, in their entire history and Nintendo never has price drops or worthwhile discounts. And Xbox makes a ton of money from their ransomware subscription that all their idiot fan base is praising. So yeah… pretty much don’t care for the other side of the argument. And I don’t really see some giant convenience in digital games either, with the exception of the Nintendo Switch, IF you play it outside your own home, in which case you don’t want to be carrying around a bag of cartridges. Though even for the switch, there are beautiful and convenient cases for cartridges and memory cards, available for purchase, that have a silicone interior and close with magnets (I bought one for my 3DS games).
    Edit: forgot to mention that indie developers get a pass from me, for their low budgets, usually low prices and the passion they put in their games. Unless they make a deal with a big platform and/or involve Sweet Baby Inc in their development.

    • @WebstersYouTube
      @WebstersYouTube  7 месяцев назад +3

      Sure, a physical release is pocket change for larger publishers and there's really no excuse for games like Alan Wake 2 being digital only.
      Digital distribution has; however, launched the careers of lots of indie developers, making the industry more accessible and inclusive while also giving us awesome new games to play.

    • @Hynotama
      @Hynotama 7 месяцев назад

      @@WebstersRUclips Alan Wake 2 has bigger issues than the medium. And I believe I already gave a pass for indie devs.

    • @leonidasvonsparta
      @leonidasvonsparta 2 месяца назад

      with a modded switch u can install your games from the cardridges on the console.

  • @Kimvanloocke
    @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

    Licences expire in parts of the game also companies want enoth profit even rights holders may not have a copy so after sales without a copy Backup it just stops existing and no longer be made to remaster Kingdom Hearts SquareEnix had to buy a retail copy to regain the asseds because they had nothing saved thats why disc is better learn from companies mistakes

  • @ajsingh4545
    @ajsingh4545 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yeahhh... I can understand indie games but AAA games have no excuse at all going all digital.

  • @TheRoidemortetfleur
    @TheRoidemortetfleur 3 месяца назад

    one downside is the one you have with video
    For example Disney will ban or edit it's streaming service to fit modern day politics.
    If a game doesn't fit the politics of the day it could be pulled or cut from platforms. Will be.

  • @mrterrychaos
    @mrterrychaos 7 месяцев назад +8

    Digital is the future whether we like it or not.
    Thing is much like how people had to work back in the day to dump cartridge ROMs, bypass mappers and encryption, and make emulators from the ground up, the battle is similar in a digital age for preservation, except now it's a matter of decrypting DRM, backing up downloaded files, and making translation layers for the new line of ARM and X86 systems.
    The battle for preservation doesn't end because of digital distribution. It changes. We still have access to the files and archivists are still backing them up and decrypting them.
    I think people take for granted all the work people put in for something like NES emulation to be so easy to access.

    • @jonahabenhaim1223
      @jonahabenhaim1223 7 месяцев назад +1

      I can however see Physical Staying around more, due to the fact that you can Burn Collections of Games on to discs if your skilled enough. Through a Flash drive.

    • @WebstersYouTube
      @WebstersYouTube  7 месяцев назад +4

      I agree there's still a fight to be won, it just looks a little different now. I trust the community to ensure games get preserved and remain available.

    • @mrterrychaos
      @mrterrychaos 7 месяцев назад +4

      The battle has always been about access to duplication and back ups. Piracy is the industry's justification for restricting user access but considering how profitable PC gaming is, Piracy isn't the big bad boogeyman that Nintendo and other industry leaders think it is. Hell, MP3s didn't kill the music industry. PDFs didn't kill the book industry.
      They just want to be able to resell us the same game again and again.
      A common fallacy of physical media is continued user access, but as your other video touched on, there's limitations to that. Cartridges and discs had measures to prevent user backups and still do. Digital is the same.
      Digital isn't the enemy of preservation. Those NES roms didn't decrypt and dump themselves. DRM and copy protection is the enemy of preservation.
      Also right now Nintendo's spiteful and immoral tactics are the enemy.
      If anyone wants to tell me they're just protecting their copyright, look up what Sony did to Bleem. The fact Nintendo's lawsuits have been settled out of court is out of fear of Nintendo using their wallet to get their way like Sony did.
      It's people working to dump roms and code emulators and risking their legal safety that are the heroes of preservation. The battle isn't going to be won by collectors.

  • @dolfholland
    @dolfholland 7 месяцев назад +1

    Digital wil be a prison governments are telling game dev to promote digital wy for a new system for the whole world social credit system we all can stop the digital world not buy or dowload digital we are in power when we al.work.together come on people !!!

  • @cameronleehorace
    @cameronleehorace 2 месяца назад

    Get whatever is the cheapest option at the time. Digital sales are for the win.

  • @tenchimuyio
    @tenchimuyio 28 дней назад

    I only buy digital if me and my group of friends has no way to buy it. Physical all the way baby

  • @matthewrodgers740
    @matthewrodgers740 5 месяцев назад

    If the game requires Internet to play, it is a fraud when it’s being sold under a perpetual license And not a subscription license

  • @elmasheavy89
    @elmasheavy89 7 месяцев назад +1

    Without Denuvo DRM

  • @Azaurus1
    @Azaurus1 4 месяца назад

    I think the future of physical is cartridges as modern cd games barely qualify as physical.

    • @Skunkworks300
      @Skunkworks300 Месяц назад

      They do because for example, red dead redemption 2 has the whole game that is playable offline

    • @Skunkworks300
      @Skunkworks300 Месяц назад

      And downloadable offline

  • @Kimvanloocke
    @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

    companies want more profit cutting costs making and selling at high upcharge prices digital is not cheaper for our wallets

  • @Kimvanloocke
    @Kimvanloocke 3 месяца назад

    When hard/ SSDdrive fails you do not own a backup digitaly because temperarly licence wich can desolve at any time to nothingness the platform denies you access, internet server glitches. They only fix games if they deem it cost effective gta trillogy remasters are more buggy then original release

  • @claudiegarnier4560
    @claudiegarnier4560 4 месяца назад

    I prefer having my game fisically. I was raised like that but I love the discount we got on some old games at digital. Because some sellers are real rats.

  • @SlickD86
    @SlickD86 7 месяцев назад +3

    Since the PS4 and XBOX ONE, game discs have become keys to download and access most if not all of the game. The games release broken on the disc and requires updates to be completed.
    Digital is the only way to play nowadays. That's why I play games on PC with some control over my games and how I play them unlike consoles with no control.

    • @WebstersYouTube
      @WebstersYouTube  7 месяцев назад +3

      That's partly true. PS4 and XB1 games install to the hard drive because Blu Ray read speeds are too slow for gaming. While there are cases like Tony Hawks 5 and Spyro Reignited where only part of the game is on the disc, most discs contain v1.0, which can be played through to credits; however, without their day one patches, they tend to be buggy messes.
      Check out Does It Play, who got a shout out near the end, as they've catalogued what's actually on the disc for loads of games.

  • @KeinNiemand
    @KeinNiemand 6 месяцев назад +4

    Digital DRM Free Games are best when it comes to Preservation

    • @bradleyokane
      @bradleyokane 4 месяца назад +1

      GOG on PC 👍

    • @aquapendulum
      @aquapendulum 2 месяца назад

      Our SSD is the only physical storage we need. If game companies want to take away my games, they still have to come take my SSD from my cold dead hands.

  • @Los_da_gamer
    @Los_da_gamer 7 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly, I'd legit only buy digital if I were stuck in a wheelchair for life or didn't have legs to walk to the store. In this position, I think my decision is justified. But since I'm not restricted in these two detailed positions, I'll say I enjoy owning physical copies of games because it's a satisfying thought, to me, to know I can install and play the base game without ever needing to connect to the internet. In my opinion, going all digital means you'll have to have a reliable internet service nearby and right now, I just don't have the funds on top of everything else I pay for in life to make sure I have home wifi or something like that 24/7 lol.

  • @Whoisjase
    @Whoisjase 6 месяцев назад

    If you believe in ownership/private property and freedom: Digital Media is the antithesis.

  • @danishdiana102
    @danishdiana102 7 месяцев назад

    Great video

  • @VampireA1056
    @VampireA1056 23 дня назад +1

    No, no we're not

  • @allenwhiteside7838
    @allenwhiteside7838 5 месяцев назад

    Don't buy digital for any reason but do like it since provides fast turnover for free pirated aoftware

  • @iBMcFly
    @iBMcFly 7 месяцев назад +1

    Physical is the only feasible purchase. Now if one can acquire digital content free, then it’s an okay alternative.

    • @aquapendulum
      @aquapendulum 2 месяца назад

      If you can acquire the digital content free, your SSD is already your physical media.

  • @BNWilliamGaming
    @BNWilliamGaming 7 месяцев назад

    23rd!

  • @Mojaveknight17
    @Mojaveknight17 7 месяцев назад

    Convince has a price

  • @gardevoirtrainer4526
    @gardevoirtrainer4526 26 дней назад

    I just bought WRC Generations yesterday on PS5 digitally because I couldn't find a copy at any shops in my area and I'm not a fan of buying online because things can get stolen or lost in the mail. Plus it was on sale for $15.99.

  • @ChosenOne-il4bm
    @ChosenOne-il4bm 5 месяцев назад

    The problem is that Games have always been thrown away
    its a game.....
    but me personally I have been lucky because they have brought all my games into backwards compatbility
    and other games that have not been brought back have been remade
    hogwarts legacy from a game pplay level is a remake of the original harry potter games...
    spiderman ps5 games are a remake of the original spiderman 2 and ultimate spiderman....

  • @leonidasvonsparta
    @leonidasvonsparta 2 месяца назад

    digital is only good if u have the file of the game without drm :D GoG or 🏴‍☠
    otherwise go physical ppl!