Thx for your tips man. Just ignore those stupid questions ralated to "your hands shaking, some noise" etc. Your videos are great as they are... to the point.
i had a friend that ran the output of one fairly powerful solid state amp into the input of an 80 watt valve amp because he had no pedals at all, as a tech i was horrified,but you know what,the overdrive distortion was the best overdriven sound i've ever heard.analyzing the theoretics it was 8ohm into 1000000 ohms, so not a lot of current was being delivered from the solid state amp into the high impedance input of the valve amp in reality,even though the solid state amp was running flat out.i initially thought it was a bad idea,but he played that set up for ages with no burn outs.you have to think away from the norm.
I don't know what the limit is for input sockets feeding speaker level into line level. I mean they are high resistance usually but not sure the power dissipated, 30 volts into a 900 ohm resistance is still a watt that could overheat a small resistor. Good job he didn't feed it with a high power tube amp as they can be destroyed running high impedances at high power. Something about the tube output overvolting. I would have thought there would be too much problem with feedback and fret noise at those extreme gains.
Nice vid. The reverb is more prominent before the overdrive because in that case, the drive increases the gain of the dry AND wet signal. When the reverb is after the overdrive, the drive only increases the gain of the dry signal. For a better comparison you could try decreasing the amount of reverb when it's before the drive. That way you could focus on the tonal differences.
Its not just that. It would be more prominent even if you reduced the amplitude because distortion pedals compress the sound by nature of what distortion is. When the reverb is after the drive it doesn't get compressed only the source signal does and there also isn't the added artifacting and harmonic content added by the distortion all of which add amplitude across the frequency spectrum. i.e. a squaring of a wave introduces odd harmonics the more you square it off. I think a better thing to do would be to add an expander as well as an attenuation (if necessary) if all you are after are the timbral differences.
The reverb becomes more part of the sound instead of just being an effect that sits on the top. Sounds more natural to me. It's like, instead of having a distorted sound in a room, it becomes a sound in a distorted room. But what you could do is to go guitar, overdrive, modulation, delay and reverb into an overdriven amp or another overdrive pedal before the amp, if one prefers their amp clean. But either way, by having the reverb and delay after an overdrive and before another would be a little more controllable to avoid it becoming too mushy and messy :) of course, this would then be a distorted sound inside a distorted room. But it all depends on the amount of gain and how everything else are set up of course. A medium to long decay reverb would probably be too mushy for this kind of setup, unless you go mild overdrive after. Unless of course if you want a messy drony kind of sound. Maybe a kind of noise-industrial sound, where you would use some modulation effect with a resonant peak before the overdrive at one state maybe. Like a Flanger or wah.
Ultimate Raptor Of Greatness and Fertility I got one for cheaper, used. And still, I really shouldn’t have been able to afford it but I thought “hey, do I really need to eat or do I need a good reverb pedal?”
Well that was interesting. I'm really old school in front of the amp TC Mojo, TC Dark Matter, MXR Chorus then in the FX Loop TC Flashback and TC Hall of Fame. I may throw it in the front now, kinda dig that nasty noise it makes. Cool hack!
Amazing video, I bought a pedal created by a local producer in my city and they include in the reverb a bright switch, and to use I need to include this reverb pedal before overdrive and was great. This is like a fender hack to my cheapest Stratocaster to increase the pickup brightness. Another point is....you can not use the same configuration in both places...each one has his own sound.
another trick is send a signal from the effects loop(on you guitar amp) to another amp in another part of the house, experiment with a mic positioned some distance away in a hallway,room,staircase,etc and bring the output from the mic back into the effects return.a poor mans reverb when you don,t have a reverb pedal with way more flexibilty.
I've got a Twin Reverb coming that I'm planning on using the vibrato ch for clean and normal ch for overdrive and leads (using a Boss LS-2 line selector to switch) I also want reverb on the drive ch and have been previously running time based effects through fx loops because they're alot cleaner. I'm scared of the dirty sound I might end up with to be honest but this vid gives me hope while I wait
I have just bought a amplifier without reverb so thought about just adding a reverb pedal. But i just learnt it will sound weird like this. It also does not have a fx loop.
This just blew my mind because i just added a HOF to my board, and I already use a decent amount of reverb on the amp. Wasn't so crazy about the extra layer i was getting, but it is placed almost last in the chain. I only wanted it for some extra "Room" on some solos, totally going to try and move it up now.
Lol, he does speak kinda nervously, but I just think that's his manner of speaking. Kind .....of... William...shatner....ish. English may not be his first language tho. When I speak Spanish or french I probably sound timid too, trying to recall certain words in the middle of a sentence.
Didn't even realized it. Looked back at the video, and nah, he doesn't sound nervous. Just the way he talks. You probably are like that in your life, so psychologically you think he (and when other people you see talk like that) is nervous.. When they are not. Better having a quirky video host, then some dude who talks like he's breathing all over the mic, and sighing every few seconds, trying to sound all "cool". lol.
i run one overdrive into another overdrive before going into the amp,only good with noiseless pickups though,pedal noise has become so low that one can do this now,back in the early germanium transistor days you,d get way to much noise,
Do you have two reverb pedals because it matters on how they are chained (so you don't have to swap around)? Or could you do this with one reverb pedal and just stomp it before or after the distortion?
Old comment I know but no ones answered so I will. Most guitar Pedals’ inputs are on the right of the pedal, with the output on the left. So, no. The chain would be going from right to left. Meaning the reverb after the distortion would be to the left of the distortion.
+Andreas Brix because we like to mess with your head! ;) Seriously though, the noise wasn't very loud in the studio, and we don't think it's very loud in the video. It's the typical hum that goes along with having a distortion pedal turned on. But kudos on the great ears, man :)
No, not really. My hands are just a tiny bit shaky in general. It's the cards I've been dealt, and I just have to make the best of it :) All the best - Stefan
I'm gonna start charging $5 every time someone says that. The resemblance might as well earn me a cash flow for sweet sweet beer ;) All the best - Stefan
I'm so high dude and I see you as Pewdiepie, holy sht you actually look like Pewdiepie
one of the best comments I've seen
😂
One of the comments of all time
he didn't say the n word though, so it's not as convincing
I've always loved doing this with delays, but I never thought to do it with a reverb. thanks for the new trick!
+Justin Brackett so great you found the trick useful :)
I thought absolutely the same. Great and enjoyable video by the way.
Thx for your tips man. Just ignore those stupid questions ralated to "your hands shaking, some noise" etc. Your videos are great as they are... to the point.
i had a friend that ran the output of one fairly powerful solid state amp into the input of an 80 watt valve amp because he had no pedals at all, as a tech i was horrified,but you know what,the overdrive distortion was the best overdriven sound i've ever heard.analyzing the theoretics it was 8ohm into 1000000 ohms, so not a lot of current was being delivered from the solid state amp into the high impedance input of the valve amp in reality,even though the solid state amp was running flat out.i initially thought it was a bad idea,but he played that set up for ages with no burn outs.you have to think away from the norm.
I don't know what the limit is for input sockets feeding speaker level into line level. I mean they are high resistance usually but not sure the power dissipated, 30 volts into a 900 ohm resistance is still a watt that could overheat a small resistor. Good job he didn't feed it with a high power tube amp as they can be destroyed running high impedances at high power. Something about the tube output overvolting.
I would have thought there would be too much problem with feedback and fret noise at those extreme gains.
What a wide range of vocabulary to describe the tone. I like that! By the way, the tones are great too!
+Radomír Flek (Fleksible) - Thank you very much :) All the best - Stefan
Your videos are among the best for pedals, playing, and tones. Thank you so much!
Nice vid. The reverb is more prominent before the overdrive because in that case, the drive increases the gain of the dry AND wet signal. When the reverb is after the overdrive, the drive only increases the gain of the dry signal. For a better comparison you could try decreasing the amount of reverb when it's before the drive. That way you could focus on the tonal differences.
Its not just that. It would be more prominent even if you reduced the amplitude because distortion pedals compress the sound by nature of what distortion is.
When the reverb is after the drive it doesn't get compressed only the source signal does and there also isn't the added artifacting and harmonic content added by the distortion all of which add amplitude across the frequency spectrum. i.e. a squaring of a wave introduces odd harmonics the more you square it off.
I think a better thing to do would be to add an expander as well as an attenuation (if necessary) if all you are after are the timbral differences.
just what i looked för, thanks stefan
The reverb becomes more part of the sound instead of just being an effect that sits on the top. Sounds more natural to me.
It's like, instead of having a distorted sound in a room, it becomes a sound in a distorted room.
But what you could do is to go guitar, overdrive, modulation, delay and reverb into an overdriven amp or another overdrive pedal before the amp, if one prefers their amp clean. But either way, by having the reverb and delay after an overdrive and before another would be a little more controllable to avoid it becoming too mushy and messy :) of course, this would then be a distorted sound inside a distorted room. But it all depends on the amount of gain and how everything else are set up of course. A medium to long decay reverb would probably be too mushy for this kind of setup, unless you go mild overdrive after. Unless of course if you want a messy drony kind of sound. Maybe a kind of noise-industrial sound, where you would use some modulation effect with a resonant peak before the overdrive at one state maybe. Like a Flanger or wah.
i love this guy
wow, we've got so many clichés stuck in our head. so much that ive never 'dared' trying that trick yet, but pretty curious now to do so ! thx.
+bertrand bertrand - Happy you found the video inspiring. Really means a lot :)
The Raveonettes have been doing this for years! Once I found out how they got that sound, I tried it and loved it!
2 HOF's? Heck I can't even afford one
Ultimate Raptor Of Greatness and Fertility I got one for cheaper, used. And still, I really shouldn’t have been able to afford it but I thought “hey, do I really need to eat or do I need a good reverb pedal?”
i think that way much too often :P
@@nicholaschavira1743 me 3 years ago didn't know any better, cause I ended up dropping $180 on a Caroline Météore
Well that was interesting. I'm really old school in front of the amp TC Mojo, TC Dark Matter, MXR Chorus then in the FX Loop TC Flashback and TC Hall of Fame. I may throw it in the front now, kinda dig that nasty noise it makes. Cool hack!
+JamCave Studio thanks, man :)
Amazing video, I bought a pedal created by a local producer in my city and they include in the reverb a bright switch, and to use I need to include this reverb pedal before overdrive and was great. This is like a fender hack to my cheapest Stratocaster to increase the pickup brightness.
Another point is....you can not use the same configuration in both places...each one has his own sound.
Holy crap that camera is so good
Actually it's a rather old and cheap nikon d3300 :)... But we got really lucky with the lighting in these recordings I think. :)
Really? That's impressive :D
so if I'm playing death metal... it should be in front of my overdrive
Finally someone who does a great comparison. Thanks
everyone says he looks like pewdiepie but all I see is Anton Yelchin. RIP
Fuck! I had legit forgotten he was dead until I read this. :-(
Jeep
Nice dude! Btw i hope you can hacks how my bloody valentine pedal chain :)
To quote the great orator, David Lee Roth: "Sounds like a trainload of screaming cats...on fire."
I like to run the long end into the chocolate pudding for a better feel.
Steven Wilson does this as well, sounds a lot better in my opinion.
That’s because Steven is the most powerful living being
the man who arrives somewhere but not here
another trick is send a signal from the effects loop(on you guitar amp) to another amp in another part of the house, experiment with a mic positioned some distance away in a hallway,room,staircase,etc and bring the output from the mic back into the effects return.a poor mans reverb when you don,t have a reverb pedal with way more flexibilty.
so creative i love it
Don't have anything TC on a pretty extensive board, but Stefan-, always a breath of fresh air in a sea of BS.
Did he just name drop Phil Spectre. This guy is rad
Hi Stefan, thanx for another nice tonehack, ( Iam not the third person speaking ;-) )
+Jasper Klaaijsen happy you liked it, man :)
Was anyone else hoping to hear the reverb both before AND after the distortion simultaneously? Just me?
I like reverb in the front for clean tones. I don't use reverb for distorted tones.
So how does it work when the effects are going through the Amps effect loop? Or should it be?
I've got a Twin Reverb coming that I'm planning on using the vibrato ch for clean and normal ch for overdrive and leads (using a Boss LS-2 line selector to switch) I also want reverb on the drive ch and have been previously running time based effects through fx loops because they're alot cleaner. I'm scared of the dirty sound I might end up with to be honest but this vid gives me hope while I wait
Here is a tone hack… put your overdrive BEFORE your compressor. Run the compressor last before the amp, time based in effects loop.
i did this and it is perfect for solos
Isn't this the dude from "the pedal zone"?
Nice!
+Sanborn S - Thank you :)
I have just bought a amplifier without reverb so thought about just adding a reverb pedal. But i just learnt it will sound weird like this. It also does not have a fx loop.
I've found that when it comes to pedal order the tone of the first pedal is always dominant.
This just blew my mind because i just added a HOF to my board, and I already use a decent amount of reverb on the amp. Wasn't so crazy about the extra layer i was getting, but it is placed almost last in the chain. I only wanted it for some extra "Room" on some solos, totally going to try and move it up now.
Holy shit its stefan
he sounds nervous, get him a drink to calm the nerves
+guycalleddave - wasn't nervous. Just had a slight cold. But thank you for thinking about my well-being :) all the best - Stefan
Lol, he does speak kinda nervously, but I just think that's his manner of speaking. Kind .....of... William...shatner....ish. English may not be his first language tho. When I speak Spanish or french I probably sound timid too, trying to recall certain words in the middle of a sentence.
Didn't even realized it. Looked back at the video, and nah, he doesn't sound nervous. Just the way he talks. You probably are like that in your life, so psychologically you think he (and when other people you see talk like that) is nervous.. When they are not.
Better having a quirky video host, then some dude who talks like he's breathing all over the mic, and sighing every few seconds, trying to sound all "cool". lol.
@@LeviBulger aren't English and swedish structured similarly though
I didn't know pewdiepie played guitar
he plays guitars xd
He actually was a musician at one point in real life
Haha. Pewdiepie actually is a hella good guitarist.
He has a gibson lespaul in the background in most of hes movies.
I didn't know Urkel watched guitar videos.
i run one overdrive into another overdrive before going into the amp,only good with noiseless pickups though,pedal noise has become so low that one can do this now,back in the early germanium transistor days you,d get way to much noise,
Do you have two reverb pedals because it matters on how they are chained (so you don't have to swap around)? Or could you do this with one reverb pedal and just stomp it before or after the distortion?
+Sir Hayler - the tone depends on wether you have the reverb before or after your distortion in the chain. So that's why there's two :)
Don’t have effects loop, what should I do to connect reverb to amp?
Very cool idea,but I'm still not hearing that Selmer!
Would have been better with a more natural-sounding Hall algorithm, rather than the Spring.
Bit confused. Wouldn’t the reverb pedal after the distortion be to the right instead of the left? And vice versa?
Old comment I know but no ones answered so I will. Most guitar Pedals’ inputs are on the right of the pedal, with the output on the left. So, no. The chain would be going from right to left. Meaning the reverb after the distortion would be to the left of the distortion.
Stilla J thanks for responding. After a while I started realizing it was from right to left
reverb>distortion mix gets hard to manage if you boost for solos.
MXR M300 has expression pedal parameter control; can back it off on solos or cluttered passages.
who wants solos if you can loop and ambient noodle?
I love the sounds, but is this guy OK?
I like it nasty.
does any one know what guitar he's playing?
+micko larkin - I know, since it's me playing it :) It's a Hansen S-Tone.
Pewdiepie play on reverb 😂
You ok Stef ? Look a little jumpy
That noise drives me crazy, why did you not use a Sentry Noise Gate?
+Andreas Brix because we like to mess with your head! ;) Seriously though, the noise wasn't very loud in the studio, and we don't think it's very loud in the video. It's the typical hum that goes along with having a distortion pedal turned on. But kudos on the great ears, man :)
When you're doing things like putting reverb before distortion you really can't be worrying about a noise gate. You'd lose the trail for one thing.
+Alan Angel I've never had much success with noise gates in any application. Too many fuzzes, too many different guitars.
I don't have a huge board, but putting the gate at the end always does it for me
Andreas Brix That would never work for me.
Sounds like a plate reverb.
I noticed your hands are shaking do you get nervous in front of the camera?
No, not really. My hands are just a tiny bit shaky in general. It's the cards I've been dealt, and I just have to make the best of it :) All the best - Stefan
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@@tcelectronicbuilt-in vibrato/tremolo
Don't be so sad, man. :)
This guy seems so nervous haha
You're totally right! He got better at it :) ThePedalZone is a great channel!
didn't know Pewds made a video of guitar effects
Pewdiepie
you look like PewDipie lol
I'm gonna start charging $5 every time someone says that. The resemblance might as well earn me a cash flow for sweet sweet beer ;) All the best - Stefan
What this MF doin here? 😂
that was awkward
sounds about the same to my ears.
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