the only micro you have with brood is to shift right click so you get all your spiders in 1 place so it looks like 1 spider and that hold control spam tab and right click so you scatter all the spiders around you or in jungle so you get vision Edit: you can also bind a key to select all other units in unit actions in advanced hotkey settings.
@@alvinohlsson5986 if you dont hold control and just press tab all the spiders will count as one unit but when you hold control its each spider on it's own. Test it out in demo Edit: if you wanna do it without holding control you need to enter dota_selection_group false in the game console
I also find a lot of use out of getting Skadi when going up against strong manfighters, as the base damage it provides for universal heroes combos well with brood’s Q, which scales with base attack dmg
Slardar actually does counter Brood hard since as Speed mentioned Brood has terrible armor. All of Slards damage is physical, so he kinda melts Brood...
But does he work as a carry cause most times i see him he is usually mid, i'm playing around 2.5k mmr points would i be able to carry my team in safe lane as brood carry.
Due to how much heroes give for kills and how little objectives give, Brood mid is pretty bad as she has terrible rotation potential. She used to be picked mid because she could dominate the lane with spiders and take that into early towers.
just did it and yes, totally works in USE 2-3k bracket. just listen to speed and don't feed before using ult/webs to flash farm ur items, and don't dive without Q up. U take towers and obviously win manfights with just about anyone. once you're online and have taken offlane T1, move to a lane with towers you can push and keep farming between shoving, jungle, and hero kills. you do lack AoE dmg though, so watch out for illusion heroes
Vlads is a terrible item on brood and on any pos 1 in general. The spiders become useless in team fights mid to lategame since they die way too easily to aoe damage. Vlads is an item generally build buy supports of offlane, but never the carry.
Been watching Nightfall, Yatoro and Satanic recently. They are picking these heroes in 7.36c - Broodmother - Chaos Knight (recently nerfed in 7.36c) - Ursa
Umm you dont even need Khanda to kill the broodlings. An avalanche or toss is enough since the broodlings have 300 hp and lvl 4 avalanche or toss deal 320 damage. Also just tree grab with echo sabre is enough to kill the broodlings.
Careful with your words speeed some of these 4k to 6k mmr are cry babies and their feelings get hurt easily and rant about you on other dota channels 😂😂😂
I've only used her like once after picking up Dota 2 a few months ago (lost badly, bad idea using her), but I'm happy that Broodmother is closer to her original Dota 1 iteration now with her ability changes. Not having invisibility while in her webs is perfectly fine.
You do realize that you itemize according to what the enemy heroes are? Literally zero reason to get a bloodthorn against those heroes when you can simply buy abyssal.
i mean sure i would be immortal if there was a mtx that turns it into a puppy but no, shit is still a giagantic australian spider in the middle of my screen.
also good but I prefer Khanda if you're building bloodthorn on brood(which changes the playstyle). this type of build is straight up man to man fight with enemy carries
Yes Khanda is kinda useless on this hero. Brood is a right clicker and a good split push hero so she benefits from daedalus way more. You really need as much damage as possible in order to burst heroes down with physical damage and to keep your self alive with the insatible hunger lifesteal.
Nah Brood is about rightclicking and you gain way more rightclick damage from Daedalus. Plus Brood is a split pushing rat hero as well and thats where Daedalus is a much better choice. You dont really benefit from Khanda when split pushing or ratting...
I feel like brood is still under-powered. Quite low win rates demonstrates this. Giving her invisibility and removing movement speed limit would be a good idea, could make her more playable. I'm looking at you Gaben ;)
You are saying that having 86 % win rate at top 200 immortal is low? Wtf drugs are you on? Certain heroes have a low overall winrate because lower ranked people cant play those heroes. Brood has a 52,57% winrate in 5k+ MMR. Does that look under-powered to you lol?
@@Ex0rz Yes, it is true that a fraction of people are able to achieve a higher win-rate with the hero through years and years of dedication and discipline. However, they are not the only people playing the hero.
@@fosheimdet So a hero should be buffed because some people cant play it? What an amazing thought! You do realize balancing heroes has nothing to do with players skill? You do realize that instead of crying about a hero feeling underwhelming you could actually learn to play the hero? Valve cant just buff heroes because some people cant play them. Theres also the pro scene which plays a big part when balancing heroes.
@@lazylonewolfdude im an old dadgamer - i sometimes wanna hit CTRL but instead open the fridge or pick up a pen from my table. Things get really slow and messed up :D
@@JayLinden786 Lel. Well you should try it out. I don't use zoo heroes, but some heroes I use generate illusions (Shadow Demon) and Unified Orders have been useful with controlling them.
Xd Broos has always been the insta killer pick to viper. His low armor makes him a scary little girl when u have spiders online. Although I guess now than u restore ur life like a Thirst (new innate) and not passively regenerating inside webs. Makes it more equal
@@raulmontero8736 I'm more talking about the break on his ult making it a trash matchup and it can't be dispelled. All he has to do is save it for you in every team fight and you can be focused easily. I suppose with both lifestealer and brood in the team he would have to choose which one to break.
the only micro you have with brood is to shift right click so you get all your spiders in 1 place so it looks like 1 spider and that hold control spam tab and right click so you scatter all the spiders around you or in jungle so you get vision
Edit: you can also bind a key to select all other units in unit actions in advanced hotkey settings.
Ty for this
what does hold control do?
@@alvinohlsson5986 if you dont hold control and just press tab all the spiders will count as one unit but when you hold control its each spider on it's own. Test it out in demo
Edit: if you wanna do it without holding control you need to enter dota_selection_group false in the game console
I also find a lot of use out of getting Skadi when going up against strong manfighters, as the base damage it provides for universal heroes combos well with brood’s Q, which scales with base attack dmg
skadi on her makes the q hit so ridiculously hard
brood innate better then bloodseeker used to be thirst passive :X
3 or 4 times only? Its 10 times my mmr 😂
I was thinking the same thing, like... What's 14,000 / 500...
@@tadzpalys8927 BRO :))
same bud !! ez clap 😢
stupid me thought, that brood web are not gonna make her team map dark lol but its dark for both sides
watch out guys, there will be a video out on ammar slardog vs nightfall brood, speed played hoodwink in that game, im callin it right now
Slardar actually does counter Brood hard since as Speed mentioned Brood has terrible armor. All of Slards damage is physical, so he kinda melts Brood...
You heal for a percentage of the VICTIM'S health not yours...
And reduces the heal by 40% if it’s from the creeps. So not much
Brood is definitely getting nerfed. So better abuse it while we can.
But does he work as a carry cause most times i see him he is usually mid, i'm playing around 2.5k mmr points would i be able to carry my team in safe lane as brood carry.
Due to how much heroes give for kills and how little objectives give, Brood mid is pretty bad as she has terrible rotation potential. She used to be picked mid because she could dominate the lane with spiders and take that into early towers.
just did it and yes, totally works in USE 2-3k bracket. just listen to speed and don't feed before using ult/webs to flash farm ur items, and don't dive without Q up. U take towers and obviously win manfights with just about anyone. once you're online and have taken offlane T1, move to a lane with towers you can push and keep farming between shoving, jungle, and hero kills. you do lack AoE dmg though, so watch out for illusion heroes
rank 1 now actually
Really nightfall got rank 1?
I just did the math and he is literally 70 times my mmr😅😅😅
What is your mmr
@@ChinaNumbaWon Come on, 14000/70. You can do it! I believe in you!
@@nilsl1680 I didn’t know his mmr
14000/x=70
14000/70=x
X=200
Come on dont make your math teacher sad. Its been taught on middle school
@@ivanpaijolin9128😂
Can you rush Vlad’s on brood? It buffs the spiders.
Yeap but isnt worth it. Unless u r offlaner, and have Morph, Venge, tiny core..mb
yea so many other items needed > bloodthorn > all
Vlads is a terrible item on brood and on any pos 1 in general. The spiders become useless in team fights mid to lategame since they die way too easily to aoe damage. Vlads is an item generally build buy supports of offlane, but never the carry.
Bro its 14 times of my mmr 🤣🤣🤣
Been watching Nightfall, Yatoro and Satanic recently. They are picking these heroes in 7.36c
- Broodmother
- Chaos Knight (recently nerfed in 7.36c)
- Ursa
ursa is type of hero that can be nerfed every single patch and still its gonna be op
With the "nerf" CK got, you can pretty just never mention it and no one would notice. 😂
Umm CK didnt get nerfed ta all. I hope you were being sarcastic. :D Str gain reduced by 0.1 is hardly a nerf haha.
17:12 "wow that Snapfire damage is insane!"
I am not Oracle but is that a Snapfire video on the horizon I see?
I'm surprised you didn't talk about Bloodthorn at all
ya bloodthorn is HILARIOIOUS! i can just send my spiderlings on and they ALWAYS kill
Spiders are not very useful later on , and the easier method of building the hero is just easier , so why bother ?
warlock can turn all those spiders into imps and kill the entire team lol
Nope
Ah shit the jig is up, they're gonna nerf us now, noooooo
"3 to 4 times your mmr", 2k crusader/ archon players :surprised pikachu:
'14000 MMR, which is most likely 3 to 4 times your MMR'.
Well, joke's on you, because that's actually 5 times my MMR 😂
Nice video as per usual though.
3-4 times my MMR? Stop it you're flattering me!
Brood is fun , tried her yesterday , had a meh lane but it did not matter
just spam void, WK or jug if you are below 5k mmr carry player
Mid laners tierlist please🙏🙏😭
In my rank, I like to counter it with Tiny Khanda. One toss clears all the broodlings. Thankfully, Broods aren't this good lol
The hero uses the spiders mainly to farm. It's perfectly capable of fighting without them.
@@ПодзалупычТвороженко the spiderlings help alooooot for burst damage with the bloodthorn/orchid
@@songweaver6076 They do, but it's not like you're screwed without them.
Umm you dont even need Khanda to kill the broodlings. An avalanche or toss is enough since the broodlings have 300 hp and lvl 4 avalanche or toss deal 320 damage. Also just tree grab with echo sabre is enough to kill the broodlings.
Still hate spiders.
Careful with your words speeed some of these 4k to 6k mmr are cry babies and their feelings get hurt easily and rant about you on other dota channels 😂😂😂
and get rekt by a techies in 2 secs lol
I'm also too old to be rank 2. I'm fucking 28 years old and only started playing dota in fucking 2019.
Bro, i’m 30 yrs old and play since 2009 😅 still 4200 mmr
old gezer!
@@petrtrubac6502 I almost hit 4k but I am back to 3300 MMR too many risky double downs.
Too old? 28? Bro im 37.
I've only used her like once after picking up Dota 2 a few months ago (lost badly, bad idea using her), but I'm happy that Broodmother is closer to her original Dota 1 iteration now with her ability changes. Not having invisibility while in her webs is perfectly fine.
no bloodthorn??
near 100% of my games have orchid > 90% have BT
You do realize that you itemize according to what the enemy heroes are? Literally zero reason to get a bloodthorn against those heroes when you can simply buy abyssal.
Am with daedalus
i mean sure i would be immortal if there was a mtx that turns it into a puppy but no, shit is still a giagantic australian spider in the middle of my screen.
is khanda bad on this hero?
also good but I prefer Khanda if you're building bloodthorn on brood(which changes the playstyle). this type of build is straight up man to man fight with enemy carries
Yes Khanda is kinda useless on this hero. Brood is a right clicker and a good split push hero so she benefits from daedalus way more. You really need as much damage as possible in order to burst heroes down with physical damage and to keep your self alive with the insatible hunger lifesteal.
The sound of that Bloodthorn thumps when you're silenced and 50 of those little spiders tapping you. The worst
at least bloodthorn right now does not deal damage after its dispelled.
I think Khanda is better than Daedalus due to her low CD Ultimate
Nah Brood is about rightclicking and you gain way more rightclick damage from Daedalus. Plus Brood is a split pushing rat hero as well and thats where Daedalus is a much better choice. You dont really benefit from Khanda when split pushing or ratting...
I feel like brood is still under-powered. Quite low win rates demonstrates this. Giving her invisibility and removing movement speed limit would be a good idea, could make her more playable. I'm looking at you Gaben ;)
You are saying that having 86 % win rate at top 200 immortal is low? Wtf drugs are you on? Certain heroes have a low overall winrate because lower ranked people cant play those heroes. Brood has a 52,57% winrate in 5k+ MMR. Does that look under-powered to you lol?
@@Ex0rz Yes, it is true that a fraction of people are able to achieve a higher win-rate with the hero through years and years of dedication and discipline. However, they are not the only people playing the hero.
@@fosheimdet So a hero should be buffed because some people cant play it? What an amazing thought! You do realize balancing heroes has nothing to do with players skill? You do realize that instead of crying about a hero feeling underwhelming you could actually learn to play the hero? Valve cant just buff heroes because some people cant play them. Theres also the pro scene which plays a big part when balancing heroes.
Its the best carry until someone picks a PA or sven XD
5x mmr actually! 😂
Say it with me viz-edge.
Jokes on you speed i have 2mmr
Xd. Naaah
Any amount multiplied by 0 is still 0
14k divided by 3 or 4 is 3500-4666 mmr lol, that majority of viewers are definitely lower
I just pick morphling
1/2 # of superlatives in the commentary = 2x viewer interest
she will get nerf'd
Can someone list the rank here?
Speed is underestimating the required micro to draw a box and click the spiders on an enemy....
draw a box? lmao
You guys don't use "Unified Orders with CTRL"? 😅
@@lazylonewolfdude im an old dadgamer - i sometimes wanna hit CTRL but instead open the fridge or pick up a pen from my table. Things get really slow and messed up :D
@@JayLinden786 Lel. Well you should try it out. I don't use zoo heroes, but some heroes I use generate illusions (Shadow Demon) and Unified Orders have been useful with controlling them.
Alchemist is better.. Radiance in 13 min every game.. won in 30 min 80% winrate
after watching this herald players gonna pick this hero and greif the game xd
brood sucks and is annoying, so who gives a shit about abusing the pick to gain mmr, so low....
everyday a video, everyday a new broken hero xD
Everyday a clown trying to sound cool
@@Jigoku_No_IruU r the clown. Realize it
2 times :(
cmon man making brood video now all people play this cancer hero xd
gonna get reported for trying this lol
If you're running brood you need to ban viper. It's unplayable the second viper gets his ult.
can buy windwaker or even just euls and just wait out the ult duration, sange and yasha will also reduce the duration
Xd Broos has always been the insta killer pick to viper. His low armor makes him a scary little girl when u have spiders online. Although I guess now than u restore ur life like a Thirst (new innate) and not passively regenerating inside webs. Makes it more equal
@@raulmontero8736 I'm more talking about the break on his ult making it a trash matchup and it can't be dispelled. All he has to do is save it for you in every team fight and you can be focused easily. I suppose with both lifestealer and brood in the team he would have to choose which one to break.
Day 37 of asking speed to play position 1 Io
Yeapp. Have received little" boosts in that matter. Thought we would coming to see it in pro dota with any Marci flex
bro calling Broodmother "he" LOL
He's calling nightfall he you clown
First
First 🥇
Anyone else find this guy super arrogant
Sigan pickeando esta basura de héroe, más MMR para mí.
The way speed talks is as if he’s miracle 😂
How insecure do you have to be to keep poking at other peoples mmr lmao
its a joke?
Cry is free
He is 12k though Xddd
He's 12k though and he is obviously joking , so cry elsewhere