That was interesting. I am a grass guy myself but use chainsaws as needed for storm clean up. I never thought to clean the groove on the bar. My saws just don't run that much. Learn something new every day.
I have access to a small Stihl chainsaw (owned by a family member), and even though it's not mine, I check the tension before every use. I use it more than they do anyway. Recently, a large tree fell in my front yard. The small Stihl will work fine for limbing, but for the main part of the tree, I'm going to need something bigger. Echo is my top pick for OPE, so I've been keeping an eye out for a CS-590 to pop up for sale locally. I guess people who have them want to keep them. I may have to bite the bullet, and buy new. Whatever I get, I'll be checking the chain tension before every use.
This video was timely. It reminded me that I haven't looked on the local marketplace sites lately for a chainsaw. So I did, and found an Echo CS-590 in good running condition for half the price of a new one. It was 10 minutes away. It needs the chain tension set. 😅
I have that same saw. Great little climbing saw. Also when the bar gets a small lip on it you can take a flat file and file it down. I do that on my saws every other day
A customer brought an older homelite in to my work for this exact reason. He got a new one and didn't want it anymore. So I donated it to my self and for a new chain and quart of oil which I got at work, got a new to me saw
I wonder if a dull chain is the issue . If dull they get hot and stretch .Get loose and come off . Once a chain starts to get loose i sharpen or change. I believe i saw part of bar was blue .
Echo makes a good saw. The older saws had to have the bar lifted up to get the chain tension right and then the bar nuts tightened up. I always ran good grade bar/chain oil in my saws and very rarely had a chain pop off but usually was when I was limbing or brushing. I also kept enough slack for the chain to turn but not flop and if it's too tight it'll take all the engine power to just spin the chain and won't cut at all. And I ALWAYS checked chain tension when gassing and oiling up. That chain is plenty sharp enough to do the job. Gppd fix and Blessings
I have the Echo CS370 with a 16” bar, and it’s pretty much a perfect limbing and trimming saw. I keep the chain on mine tight enough where I can’t see the entire drive link tooth when pulling the chain at the bottom of the bar.
My problem was the chain adjuster on my ms170 the threaded where stripped out one problem it could have been or the customer didn't tighten the nuts on the cover
Thanks I have an echo cs 310 and the chain came off today (not me using it) and the chain did not want to go back on the bar So I’ll follow your advice with a deep cleaning and new chain thanks again
I've had that issue with my Echo as well. Frequently, when the chain comes off, it damages the drive links on the chain and slightly mushrooms them. You can use a flat file or a Dremel with a small drum sander to file the damage away and the chain should go back on.
I always watch the chain even when I am cutting wood and I leave a small slack in the chain because I watched 4 guys cutting firewood and their chain last way longer than if you lightly snug the chain... And I use a drum tool with the right size sharpening stone it puts a great edge on the teeth and less than half of the time then if you sharpen by hand....I use echo over 13 yrs and I never done anything to them but put gas and oil and never had a problem with them ever and I cut firewood every year about 30 cord ... Great saws
Thanks for the tips. bought a brand new display model 18 inch saw and it came with no manual. And of course I didn't care until it started throwing the chain. Thankyou
I own an Echo saw. By the manual, to adjust chain, loosen nuts while holding end of bar up, without lifting the saw, tighten nuts 'finger' tight. Turn adjusting screw clockwise to raise chain to bottom of bar until it just makes contact with bar edge. While still holding bar up, tighten nuts with wrench making sure not to overtighten. It can be torqued between 135 to 175 in pounds.
I check the chain when I stop for fueling. I may have missed it but I didn’t see you clean the hole in the bar where the oil lubricates the chain anyway, good job
Hey bro what's up? When I have to use my chainsaw for whatever project around my home or on my private property, before I even stat the machine, I sharpen and tension the chain to get the best performance out of my equipment.
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sure, the carb is not able to deliver the correct amount of fuel, and giving too much, that's why it won't idle. to fix it, I would just replace the carb.
i check the chain tension before every use makes it easy to catch problems and over tensioning is a problem i fixed a chainsaw that quote was down on power and would stall i started it at night and there were sparks flying off the bar it was destroyed new chain and bar properly tensioned and no more lack of power
I love the fact that that thing started right up. I had a homelight from back in the day and that thing would never start right away. I think it took like 80 pulls just to get it started. It had a new oem carb on it and i adjusted it properly but even with the original carb it still never wanted to start. It was a turd.
Ive watched a few of your vids. You do a great job. You might consider buying the Granberg electric sharpener for customer chains. I did and its a game changer. Theres a vid on here by Pete B demonstrating how to use it. You could offer that service to customers. A sharp chain makes all the difference in the world. Youd easily recover the money spent on the sharpener. Good luck sir
Usually when the valve lash on a Tecumseh or Briggs flat head engine becomes too wide, that is when you should replace the valves in total. Sometimes the tappets can also wear down and they might also need replacing. The reason why you are getting excessive clearance in the first place is because things are wearing down. It is also really important to keep the valve seats clean, sometimes carbon build up can interfere with the ring seats and cause clearance issues. It could even be that the lifters on the camshaft have worn down overtime and also need replacing.
I check the chain all the time i am working. You have to look where you are putting the bar, so can see if the chain is too slack then. If you have a bar pinch then definitely check it and also check you can pull the chain around easily, you could well have squashed the bar rails in..
the 400 is one of the BEST clam shell saws ever made "IF" you do these 3 mods. 1) muffler mod, remove CAT 2) remove limiter caps and tune carb 3) throw that stupid safety bar in the garbage! install this, WoodlandPRO 16" ArborMAX Chainsaw Bar (56 Drive Links) Universal Mount this is NOT a safety bar, always wear chainsaw chaps, gloves, boots, eye and hearing protection! dude quit your daytime job! youve got the perfect voice for the History or Discovery channel. definitely got the voice for Modern Marvels or How Its Made!
I check every time I use the saw. I had smoked a chain a while back and it wouldn't stay tight no matter what I did or how tight I installed it. Put a new chain on and all was good.
My Echo is awesome, but lately the chain will get loose, then tighten to the point where it bogs the motor down, however it still spinning under the clutch drum
Those Echos are nice saws. A cut above the standard Craftsman and Poulan saws of their day. More in the class of a Stihl or Husqvarna. Better built to withstand the abuse of the once a year owner user.
Once snug I lift the tip of the bar up, and continue to slowly tighten the chain until it just touches the bottom of the bar, then finish tightening the clutch cover.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I really admire how you take time to reply to everyone’s comment while working your normal job on top of small engine stuff and Social media, Keep up the great work and Stay Safe!
Some people should never own dangerous equipment. If you don't know the basics of maintaining a saw, how to adjust and sharpen the chain etc., don't own one and get someone that knows how.
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That was interesting. I am a grass guy myself but use chainsaws as needed for storm clean up. I never thought to clean the groove on the bar. My saws just don't run that much. Learn something new every day.
Thank you for watching, I appreciate it a lot
I have access to a small Stihl chainsaw (owned by a family member), and even though it's not mine, I check the tension before every use. I use it more than they do anyway. Recently, a large tree fell in my front yard. The small Stihl will work fine for limbing, but for the main part of the tree, I'm going to need something bigger. Echo is my top pick for OPE, so I've been keeping an eye out for a CS-590 to pop up for sale locally. I guess people who have them want to keep them. I may have to bite the bullet, and buy new. Whatever I get, I'll be checking the chain tension before every use.
I know it’s weird but is it a STIHL MS 170
This video was timely. It reminded me that I haven't looked on the local marketplace sites lately for a chainsaw. So I did, and found an Echo CS-590 in good running condition for half the price of a new one. It was 10 minutes away. It needs the chain tension set. 😅
@@gearhead366 HELL YEAH Enjoy your saw
nice, thank you for sharing that.
I think it's fine.
I have that same saw. Great little climbing saw. Also when the bar gets a small lip on it you can take a flat file and file it down. I do that on my saws every other day
you are correct, and thank you for sharing that.
A customer brought an older homelite in to my work for this exact reason. He got a new one and didn't want it anymore. So I donated it to my self and for a new chain and quart of oil which I got at work, got a new to me saw
wow very nice!
I wonder if a dull chain is the issue . If dull they get hot and stretch .Get loose and come off . Once a chain starts to get loose i sharpen or change. I believe i saw part of bar was blue .
yes I think you're right about the chain.
Echo makes a good saw. The older saws had to have the bar lifted up to get the chain tension right and then the bar nuts tightened up. I always ran good grade bar/chain oil in my saws and very rarely had a chain pop off but usually was when I was limbing or brushing. I also kept enough slack for the chain to turn but not flop and if it's too tight it'll take all the engine power to just spin the chain and won't cut at all. And I ALWAYS checked chain tension when gassing and oiling up. That chain is plenty sharp enough to do the job. Gppd fix and Blessings
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I have the Echo CS370 with a 16” bar, and it’s pretty much a perfect limbing and trimming saw. I keep the chain on mine tight enough where I can’t see the entire drive link tooth when pulling the chain at the bottom of the bar.
nice! thank you for sharing that with us
My problem was the chain adjuster on my ms170 the threaded where stripped out one problem it could have been or the customer didn't tighten the nuts on the cover
that would certainly cause some issues.
Thanks I have an echo cs 310 and the chain came off today (not me using it) and the chain did not want to go back on the bar So I’ll follow your advice with a deep cleaning and new chain thanks again
no problem and great work getting it back on.
I've had that issue with my Echo as well. Frequently, when the chain comes off, it damages the drive links on the chain and slightly mushrooms them. You can use a flat file or a Dremel with a small drum sander to file the damage away and the chain should go back on.
I always watch the chain even when I am cutting wood and I leave a small slack in the chain because I watched 4 guys cutting firewood and their chain last way longer than if you lightly snug the chain... And I use a drum tool with the right size sharpening stone it puts a great edge on the teeth and less than half of the time then if you sharpen by hand....I use echo over 13 yrs and I never done anything to them but put gas and oil and never had a problem with them ever and I cut firewood every year about 30 cord ... Great saws
nice, thank you for sharing that information
Thanks for the tips. bought a brand new display model 18 inch saw and it came with no manual. And of course I didn't care until it started throwing the chain. Thankyou
no problem
Great video on this matter of chainsaw chain coming off the bar
thank you!
I usually check when I have to pull out my chainsaw(s).
Thanks for the video.
no problem
I plan on buying a newer saw and ive settled at the ms251. I want to ask if i should either get a 45cm bar or a 50cm light bar?
nice choice and the bar size is dependent on what size logs you intend to cut with it. For me, I'd stay with the 45cm.
Thanks for the advice
Very helpful. Thanks so much.
You're welcome!
I own an Echo saw. By the manual, to adjust chain, loosen nuts while holding end of bar up, without lifting the saw, tighten nuts 'finger' tight. Turn adjusting screw clockwise to raise chain to bottom of bar until it just makes contact with bar edge. While still holding bar up, tighten nuts with wrench making sure not to overtighten. It can be torqued between 135 to 175 in pounds.
very nice information thank you
I check the chain when I stop for fueling. I may have missed it but I didn’t see you clean the hole in the bar where the oil lubricates the chain anyway, good job
nice choice!
Hey bro what's up? When I have to use my chainsaw for whatever project around my home or on my private property, before I even stat the machine, I sharpen and tension the chain to get the best performance out of my equipment.
very nice! I wish I was as good as you!
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thanks bro
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sure, the carb is not able to deliver the correct amount of fuel, and giving too much, that's why it won't idle. to fix it, I would just replace the carb.
i check the chain tension before every use makes it easy to catch problems and over tensioning is a problem i fixed a chainsaw that quote was down on power and would stall i started it at night and there were sparks flying off the bar it was destroyed new chain and bar properly tensioned and no more lack of power
Very good choice!
I check it often Thank you for the video
anytime
I love the fact that that thing started right up. I had a homelight from back in the day and that thing would never start right away. I think it took like 80 pulls just to get it started.
It had a new oem carb on it and i adjusted it properly but even with the original carb it still never wanted to start. It was a turd.
wow that's a lot of pulling
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yeah it may as well have been a poulin
Ive watched a few of your vids. You do a great job. You might consider buying the Granberg electric sharpener for customer chains. I did and its a game changer. Theres a vid on here by Pete B demonstrating how to use it. You could offer that service to customers. A sharp chain makes all the difference in the world. Youd easily recover the money spent on the sharpener. Good luck sir
thank you I might have to
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Usually when the valve lash on a Tecumseh or Briggs flat head engine becomes too wide, that is when you should replace the valves in total. Sometimes the tappets can also wear down and they might also need replacing. The reason why you are getting excessive clearance in the first place is because things are wearing down. It is also really important to keep the valve seats clean, sometimes carbon build up can interfere with the ring seats and cause clearance issues. It could even be that the lifters on the camshaft have worn down overtime and also need replacing.
you are correct, it's about time to replace the engine
Well explained 👏
thank you
I check the chain all the time i am working. You have to look where you are putting the bar, so can see if the chain is too slack then. If you have a bar pinch then definitely check it and also check you can pull the chain around easily, you could well have squashed the bar rails in..
thank you for the advice
the 400 is one of the BEST clam shell saws ever made "IF" you do these 3 mods.
1) muffler mod, remove CAT
2) remove limiter caps and tune carb
3) throw that stupid safety bar in the garbage!
install this, WoodlandPRO 16" ArborMAX Chainsaw Bar (56 Drive Links) Universal Mount
this is NOT a safety bar, always wear chainsaw chaps, gloves, boots, eye and hearing protection!
dude quit your daytime job! youve got the perfect voice for the History or Discovery channel. definitely got the voice for Modern Marvels or How Its Made!
thank you of the modification list!
I believe a good rule of thumb is to check and adjust the chain tension every 15 min of cutting. I usually do it once or twice per tank of fuel.
nice, I like that idea.
TY for Sharing
no problem, thank you for sharing
I check every time I use the saw. I had smoked a chain a while back and it wouldn't stay tight no matter what I did or how tight I installed it. Put a new chain on and all was good.
nice work!
Great video 🙏👍🙏👍
thank you !
Really good video
thank you
In the past I've checked before each use. It only takes a second to check each time
you are correct
My Echo is awesome, but lately the chain will get loose, then tighten to the point where it bogs the motor down, however it still spinning under the clutch drum
gotcha, have you checked that the oiler still working? Also have you ever serviced the bar, or replaced it recently ?
Those Echos are nice saws. A cut above the standard Craftsman and Poulan saws of their day. More in the class of a Stihl or Husqvarna. Better built to withstand the abuse of the once a year owner user.
Totally agree
I check chain tension before each use.
Good Choice
Once snug I lift the tip of the bar up, and continue to slowly tighten the chain until it just touches the bottom of the bar, then finish tightening the clutch cover.
Great tip!
I keep chains tight because they loosen with work. Good job. Glad it's gone. Second worst thing to work on besides concrete saws.
you are absolutely correct!
well for me if i owned a Chainsaw i would check the tension before each use etc.
you and me both
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yep too right mate and a good safety precaution before operating the unit etc.
Definitely leave a little slack other wise it ware’s your bar down and forces your sprocket to work i harder if it’s that tight
you are correct
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I really admire how you take time to reply to everyone’s comment while working your normal job on top of small engine stuff and Social media, Keep up the great work and Stay Safe!
A failure of oil getting on the br can stretch a chain enough to derail it.
yes it will
Good echo good job 😊 fix😊
thanks
I check mine before each time I use it
nice!
Some people should never own dangerous equipment. If you don't know the basics of maintaining a saw, how to adjust and sharpen the chain etc., don't own one and get someone that knows how.
you are correct
Another co worker job? Out of control.
my thoughts exactly
Thats scary. No maintenence and yet swinging a machine like this around.
I know right
I’m a little bit of slack on my chain kind of guy.
me too!