How to solve EMC problems! || The mystery of the buzzing speaker
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
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In this video we will solve the mystery of the buzzing speaker. The reason for the noises are of course EMC problems, aka electromagnetic compatibility problems. That is why I will explain the reasons for EMC problems, how to measure them and how to fix them as well. While doing so, I will not only talk about mains filter but also about other areas of the EMC. Let's get started!
Thanks to the Würth Elektronik eiSos Gruppe for supporting this video.
Music:
2011 Lookalike by Bartlebeats
Killing Time, Kevin MacLeod
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Wow, rare to see a video with such a chill sponsor. Great job Würth, thanks for your hospitality!
After 1 minute of the german version of this video i switched to english - even i am a german native speaker, this german voice is so unfamiliar to me :-)
Me too😂 learning electronics in english is way more fun than in german :)
same dood except I'm not native at both
Same
Ne too🤣
It's most like indian to me..lol
As a bass player I've had such a problem lately because of a cheap PSU causing an annoying electrical hiss at high volume, which is amplified when I use distortion pedals, and I almost always do. Thanks a lot for this video!
Now you know how to fix that problem ;-) Thanks for the feedback.
@@greatscottlab yes, even if I think I will definitely stick to the pre-built solution ^^
Davie504
@@akash-zg4vj yes, but actually no. But you can still slap like now, or I will call the police.
@@deadbird99 ayyyyyyyyy. *Knife pointing*
Thanks for a great explanation. I'm a physicist / engineer. This was always a mystery to me, especially the common mode vs differential mode. You really cleared it up.
I hope this was a joke
You definitely raised up the bar with this video. It kept me absorbed for its whole length (despite I was in the office). Thanks a lot, keep bringing more videos like this one.
Thanks for bringing up this very important topic. In most of the maker designs we see here on RUclips and elsewhere, EMC is never mentioned. Yet it affects us all on a daily basis, from interference on audio to degraded WiFi or other equipment performance. Moreover, you can even, unknowingly, affect your neighbours. I have friends who have tracked down interference on audio to faulty/cheap/nasty SMPS several houses away!
Your English has changed so dramatically since I first watched you.
Good work, and thank you for all the videos.
This is great information to share with amateur radio operators too. We're always chasing down RFI. Thanks Scott!
Stay creative and I will see you next time! So inspirational and helpful, thank you so much!
Great intermediate video into the world of EMC!. A good thing to remember is that signal/power integrity/quality are inversely releated to EMC problems, if you have a well routed signal (tight ground return, matched impedances, length matching on differential pairs, etc), then your signal integrity will be solid plus that particular signal will likely be EMC compliant and immune to external interference. Win-win situations like that are certainly possible and desireable. If you can catch them early in the design phase (schematic & layout) then you'll be saving yourself alot of frustration down the road.
Recommendation to definitely do a video on ESD / EFT in the future as that's another common EMC problem that EEs must face when designing products.
This was very insightful! Thanks for the time and effort you put into making this video. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the great introduction video Scott. It was very enlightening.
When you're so early, the title changes in front of you (from German to English)
He did two videos, one in English, one in German
it's a kind of magic
@@greatscottlab *Queen song starts playing in my head*
@@itsTyrion which one! I love em!
As well as the video itself.
I've used Wurth filter components in my professional life, and they have been very good. I'd also recommend Fair-rite for ferrite devices. For this sort of interference, adding a filter will get the job done but adds cost. If this was a production situation, the first goal is always to fix the device emitting the noise. For the hobbyist getting their first exposure to EMC, this is a fine introduction.
Great explanation. This is a solid reference for future research on my EMC problems. This video go straight on my electronics playlist. Thank you very much for sharing this.
You're welcome :-)
This is incredibly useful for ham radio ops
I love this video; it's so informative. Please keep it up!
I think the word you're looking for is "suppress" rather than "oppress".
Hi great Scott you’ve told me a lot about electronics thank you for everything
You're welcome :-)
This was excellent! I had a very similar problem making powered speakers and buying a cheap PSU brick on eBay. A genuine Toshiba one was much quieter.
Wow talk about good timing. I recently got an HDMI audio splitter from Amazon and it seems ever since I plugged it in my speakers have been making similar noises. Not sure I can manage building a filter (even with a kit 😅) but I was considering trying out some snap ferrites. Thanks for the interesting and informative video!
Fantastic work, dude! Thanks for all the tips! 😃
Would love to see a video on load cells and load cell amplifiers, I'm always recalibrating them when someone bangs one and they drift awfully must learn more.
This video gave me better knowledge about EMC topic as compared to my book on the same subject...
Loved your video and thank you for making this topic memorable for me
Thanks for the feedback :-)
This video is great as always and helped me well!
Coincidentally, what you just demonstrated is my new job. I spent 20 years doing production testing and troubleshooting of avionics, and now I'm doing EMI testing for new designs. 2 months ago, I had never even heard of such things as LISNs.
thanks for the information. Well presented for this old engineer.
Thank you. Very informative.
You deserve your nickname: you are a GREAT person and engineer! Excellent explained and reproduced. Was a GREAT pleasure from my side #askLorandt
Your videos are so enjoyable.
@GreatScott You know, after I watched this, I went to Würth Elektronik, and got the sample(s), and I didnt expect it to be so robust, and everything, I did mention you, and how what you were doing here, is what I wanted to do, and I still didnt think they would send anything at all, from 10th today the 15th of Nov(as there was no delivery date or where it was really coming from nor a tracking number) , holy shnitzel pretzel! HOnestly I thought the package or box anything would have been smaller like literally half the size, they looked so small on the screen, both on here and the website. Enough for 10 of these boards, and 3 are gonna be used to see if I can fix my problem, and maybe even my work problem that will require 3 there as well, 6 already gone... And they are DAMN GOOD quality too! Not the cheap knock offs that one would get with samples, heardy and robust, and damn good case too! Thank you so much GS! I will damn well be ordering other things from them in the future... I hope you get something outa the referrals or something even more! Even after i buy more!
Big advantage to live in the same country as Würth, you can visit the facilities, wonderful kit!!!! very beatiful, I really like this type of advanced content
Another interesting and informative video, thank you!
So much information...going to have to watch that one again.
Thank you once again GS.
I'm not the earliest one but i always watch your video's no matter what!
And as always very good and informative video!!
Thanks for watching :-)
Tnx for this video! Now I know how to build the filters for SMPS and I can use it in my own design
This escalated so quickly. The last time i was here you were blinking LEDs with an Arduino.
I needed this video for so long now
Thank you for an informative video
Its like you were reading my mind! I was having issues splicing in a BlueTooth adapter to an old stereo and I kept hearing high frequency noise. I was able to rid most of the issues with better shield and wiring, but it still wasn't perfect.
Your English is better than my Deutsch ever was, but it was wonderful seeing the other version for a moment. Could you please include a link to your "other" versions of the episodes in your descriptions? I'd love to hear both, frankly as my fluency is gone and I'd like to try a little. Since I grok the content, I expect it'll be more approachable. (Kinda like setting an alternate language on my phone or FB.) Thank you for your wonderful series of very interesting and educational content. tschüß
Thanks for sharing a great video
Common mode filters are great for canceling unwanted stuff, even on high speed / differential transmission lines (USB, RS-485 etc.)
In most cases I don't need them, but from my experience, It's a good practise to preserve some board space for these components.
Those kits are amazing
I have this issue with my rpi3. thanks for the video
Great lesson
suprisingly educational for a video i thought was mostly gonna be about the sponsored content. good work
Thanks but that is what I always try to do. Content comes first, then everything else.
Thanks! I've been looking for it for my soldering station. Because it dims the whole room's lighting when I turn it on of off.
That was a really interesting topic for today.
You might be a bit mistaken. In the recent past I have used the head stator from a hard disk, a darlington and MOSFET based amp, and a small speaker to check for EMR in many of the devices I've built. The stator coil on the head armature of a common hard disk is sensitive enough to pick up the flux field and creates a strong enough signal to be usable through a standard microphone preamp. The only issue I've found so far is frequency. As some audio devices filter out anything above 20KHz it's sometimes difficult to accurately find and diagnose such things as back EMC. This is why I would recommend building your own amps because you can omit such filtration. This might make an interesting episode of your series "Build or Buy" because it's been a pretty useful tool for me so far since I built it.
OUTSTANDING
Great video
Thanks!
Thanks for great video!
Now I’m making own lab bench power supply, but it has EMI.
Also my cheap Chinese power supply has extremely strong EMI. It doesn’t have any EMC filter circuit .
So I try to design filter for it and my lab bench power supply with help of this video :)
Fantastic video man!
Above and beyond what was necessary for emc problems caused by your LED’s. Lol Love this video. Thank you for all your hard work
Excellent video, great introduction to the topic.
Those EMC kits look really nice, I'm guessing they would be expensive.
Google would reveal that Mouser sells them for €140 a pop. So yeah, a bit expensive for the average electronics enthusiast...
Cheaper way is maybe to gut apart dead branded PSU (usually HP, Dell, famous pre built brands use good PSU which has EMI filter)
Awesome! Würth did a great job advertising here
@@jkobain if you need any support from AVX, do let me know.
You are a Legend! I owe my tinkering life to Folks like you who pour their knowledge and energy into great Production and videos that feel like hanging out with a Friend who is a Pro. Thank you
Great topic
Great scotti is back love you 😍
Great ! Excellent, well explain
Hi Great Scott, please make a video on Logic Gates, it would be a great help for me.
Nice Video, i would be interested what kind of issues one would face when dealing with Microcontrollers as the typical hobbyist will not design his own powersupply.
I didn't know this company made a filter design kit. I need to buy a bunch of these.
Great vid. Question: The shield at 10:30, is it connected to earth through the mains cord?
Very helpful video 👍
Dies ist eine gute Information. Danke Scott
Great Scott, did it help that cheap PSU when you inserted missing capacitors?
Ive never been so early to a video! Love you Great Scott!
Thanks for watching :-)
First thing to do in the morning! Watch greatscott videos!!
What a great guy
Can you tell me where do you learn these concepts and things
I have 48v source and I need to supply my ic with that. I wanna add a filter design to my PCB for that 48v dc input. But I am not sure how I am gonna choose the component values. In the video it seems you choose like a general values? Can you help me on that?
Really good video.
Ty for this info video
Is there a purchasing link for the EMC kit that was sent to you?
Interesting stuff...cheers.
best best just the best very informative
I've used those rgb controllers with a small rgb laser setups.. So many uses..
V helpful as usual ty
On the subject of audio. Did you happen to try to connect helmet intercom to action camera? I've seen you trying an intercom before (BTW that video motivated me to get one, thank you, best riding related decision ever). I have this funky setup where I connect two microphones to the camera via 3.5mm splitter - one is next to the intercom's microphone recording my voice, one is near the right intercom's speaker recording its output. It's okayish and has an advantage of working with every kind of intercom but it's uncomfortable (I have 2 extra microphones and a splitter in my helmet after all) and the sound quality of the other party speaking is "meh". I'd love to know how to match all the signals and actually connect that intercom (both microphone and speaker) to the 3.5mm input of the camera. I'm pretty sure it's not (very) complicated, I just lack knowledge.
This was a bit long infomercial... and quite educative btw!
Thanks!
I know you are selling me a kit...
But I LOVED IT
Amazing, many thanks for this video ;-)
Its another great video .... Thanks
great scott is the best
question the circuitry for conditioning between the preamp and adc are din module ?do i need sample and hold and mutiplexer in audio system ?
11:58 that guy was using the same laptop as me right now. HP EliteBook 2740p are really cool!
Loved it awesome
Nice video und gut erklärt.
Thumbs up for having an electromagnetic test chamber as part of your analysis
Do a video on ground loop problem
It's so scary...i literally encountered that problem two days ago and coom, GreatScott uploads a video to solve the problem ^^
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What a interesting video!
Nice video!
You are the only engineer I know capable of oppressing noises, you are the savior please help us mitigate the EMI and build a better world my lord. 7:26
Lucky guy. That wurth setup is expensive! But your getting the best!
Wie praktisch, das Video kommt passend zur Projektarbeit über EMV in der Berufsschule. :D
Glück muss man haben ;-)
how do i check for the Modern EMC design guidelines ?
So I've got led driving day lights on my van, now my radio fm and dab signal is is rubbish!
Got some ferrite cores but where's best to fit them on leds cables or back of the radio areial cable or both ?
Howdy Scott, I wondered if you needed to shield from 50Hz hum in audio equipment and have solution for that? Idea for future video ;-) Thanks