Cheap Citroën C6 Project 19: The C6 is FIXED? (Oh no it isn't!) Boost leak? Exhaust leak?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- The C6 developed what I believed to be a boost leak on the last trip abroad, and has been nursing it ever since. Time to find it and fix it, before taking it abroad once more....right?
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As you will be in France, maybe good time to get some cheap(er) C6 parts to fix flexy and dpf?
This has just reminded me of the time in 1986 when I cut open a baked beans can, wrapped it around my Mk2 Escort's mid section, slabbered it in gumgum and tightened it up with 4 large jubilee clips.
It passed an MOT and a trade-in inspection with flying colours. Zero shame and zero f***s given.
I'm also hoping that The Citroen Whisperer up in Scotland can fit my shiny new undertray (that's been in my garage for 6 or 7 years) in the month ahead.
Lastly, I feel your DPF pain but do let me know where you saw the cheap replacements.
Lastly x2....glad you're no longer selling it.
C6 stuff is age related as you’ve mentioned, the timing sucks but I hope you’ve not lost hope in it as it’s a lovely car. Hope you have a nice time in France at least!
5:42 Direct to camera: "Please don't fall off."
Me: grabs arms of chair.
Edge-of-the-seat cinema.
Hope you had a good time away Rich, as you say its all and tear on a car of this age, glad you are keeping the C6, really enjoy the Citeoen Content.
I feel your pain Kitch - something always seems to go wrong with one member of the fleet just as I start working on the 'less broke' member of the fleet. Coincidentally, the two german members of the fleet started having horribly electric issues soon after install a decal from Mr. Hub's store. Hmmmmm
Ah, those pesky electromagnetic stickers of his...
Make sure you check the Eolys fluid level. It is only calculated, not level sensor. It can run out before it warns you and cause DPF blocking. DPF's for PSA cars are cheap because the catalytic converters (the really expensive stuff) is separated from the DPF.
Glad you’ve still got the C6. Sometimes we hold onto cars not necessarily for practical reasons. I’m currently running my old car (my first car) and my new car because I can’t let go of the old one.
You dont actually need a new DPF! You can get yours cleaned (Burned) out so its almost like new.
My DAD had it done on his at 240k KM and it's still got at almost 340k KM. So I'd recommend looking into this...
Another good video 👍👍👍⭐️👏⭐️⭐️⭐️
Hello, french C6 owner here. Thanks a lot for your videos which are going to be quite helpful to go through C6 adventures. I think you can do a force decloging of the DFP using the Lexia. Don't really know if it can help you now but in juste in case ( the option is called regeneration forcée du FAP). Cheers !
Yes I think you can, but I think mine is probably too clogged for that to work. It did a regen not long before the issue occured.
In 2005 when I bought my C8, the salesman sidetracked me onto one of these. I was blown away by it, it's interior, exterior, the engine. Beautiful ! He said tat I could be the first customer in that branch to buy one. I was very very tempted but didn't.
Watching your videos I'm so glad I didn't but at the same time I still want one!
Cleaned my DPF with 3x dishwasher tablets with hot water, then used a toilet cleaner with 30% phosphoric acid in, come up like new! Left the the clener in with hot water over night. Blocked DPF caused breather pipe to split. Oh also there is a reasonably cheap DPF place in Waterlooville "European Exhaust and Catalyst"
I heard the wooshing noise as soon as I was sat on your engine me lovely
On the bright side, the C6 will not leave you stranded on the lovely French countryside with family members staring holes into you. Enjoy your trip.
Exactly! Can't let me down if it never made it in the first place.
I still like the C6 despite its problems
Greatly enjoyed the video! Have a good holiday Rich! Enjoy the time off
I blew the rear box apart at the seams on my Xantia a few years back. Hilariously didn't notice despite it being in 2 halves and put it in for the MOT. When I took it off it was datestamped 94, the same year the car was made. Nobody would believe it was the original as there was no paperwork to suggest and I doubt anyone kept a backbox on the shelf for that long!
There's a new silicon carbide DPF on Autodoc for 350 quid. Definitely not something you'd buy for fun, but I guess it might be worth trying as the original part is probably over 1000 pounds (it's either €1200 or €1460 where I live)
This sounds like an ideal temporary replacement whilst the original is being cleaned out or refurbished.
@@stewartmcnaughton3395 If temporary, then get a used one or the cheaper cordierite.
Dpf filters blocking is normally a sign of something else is wrong. Having a exhaust leak before the filter will give incorrect pressure readings for the dpf sensor ie low pressure at the sensor. This will lead to a miss calculation of soot loading at the ecu. And no self regen. Fixing the exhaust leak means the ecu can now see correct filter pressure ie high. After market dpf filters are pants. Run cleaner or 2 through it and see if the pressure comes down.
All sounds sensible.
Thank God the DPF is blocked, my eyes were bleeding seeing your fix of the exhaust leak!😮
I know. It would have been to just get it around France but in a way I'm glad I didn't have to!
Have an excellent holiday Sir.
Fantastic video ,I know you said said funnny but not haha, but you have a great personality and make it so relaxed
Get the DPF professionally cleaned rather than full replacement.
Ahhh the DPF... I've had that clogging issue with a cracked manifold on an i-CTDi Civic. It's vicious because the leak causes lessened flow through the filter and since it doesn't heat up as much, it clogs itself more, which aggravates whatever leak is present upstream of the DPF. I appreciate antipollution equipment (DPF/SCR) for the work they do but god damn do they spell migraines once they start behaving. I wonder if, now that you've patched up the leak, if running it calmly at highway speeds for like over hour would heat the filter up enough that it could regenerate on its own. Or if you could run a forced regen through some software gizmo.
Look on the flip side though: you won't need to take the engine out to replace the filter on this car! Already a huge win compared to some other cars (cough cough civic 8)
Green Milliput is what you need!
A DPF is what I need... :-(
The comment from @khalidacosta7133 is spot on. I used to have a c5 (same 2.7 engine) and had the same problem and dash warning. I ran it on dpf cleaner and that got me out of trouble until the Eolys was refilled.
I was all set to chip in with a time honoured Panto "Oh no it isn't - Oh yes it is" quip but .... well it all makes sense now. Knowing what the problem is might not magically fix it but I do find things easier to deal with then, it's an age thing, both me and the C6. On a more positive note, rejoice in the fact that you are married to a very sensible and logical person.
Have you really done France in the C6 before? I also shivered when you lifted up the bonnet.😆 The boost leak on OMaR the C6 is ref DOOM tee "A dribble of disappointment". 🥁
Love the videos on the C6! Learnt so much about the various issues with these cars. Would you be interested in another project car? I can't see me getting around to getting mine back on the road anytime soon! Such a shame as its a lovely car to drive😢
A C6? Unless it's a pre-2006 model or only good for spares, I don't think it would be a good idea!
The unwritten Law of Sod strikes again,feel your pain but great video 👏👍
That Dog has ideas above his station.😂
The nerve.
What about Gun Gum? A staple of my youth, that stuff!
Putting sealer on a leak ahead of a cat could contaminate it, so need to be very careful none gets in the pipe. Gungum is good as it expands in a gap, but plastering it on the outside might look nice, but won't last. Sadly I know this all too well.
20:47 - Posh Diesel fuel? I must be living in Plebland if I've not even seen this 'Posh Diesel fuel' you speak of in any of my local garages.
Like super diesel, that kind of thing.
Need to buy a smoke generater to find out where the leak is.
Well, I did find it...
Great content again
The C6 is an utterly beguiling car. Just a shame you can't take it to Europe.
After watching O'Riley's Autos, I wonder if a damned good clean would help. Still... 16 years old, as you say.
I never had any work done on her around the Exhaust in the time that I owned her from 65K
“Good news”.. operation brock isn’t on the M20 at the moment sk you can reach Eurotunnel via the motorway.
Wave as you go between 7 & 8 😎
I’d absolutely watch if you did a forced recharge of the dpf (not sure if that happens with PSA and the additive system) and/or a DPF cleaner by Liqui Moly or others. You see so many reviews on Amazon but have never seen a pro do it. Is that…. Did I see an SM? 😉🤪
It won't work with a hole in the exhaust and the DPF is half removed to repair that, so I might as well take it off and clean it properly.
I had a C-Max company car - worst 3 years lease of my life. It was so bad and the dealers told me it was across all the cars they sold that happened on................... but they sold them #sh1tforddiesels
14:53 Two person job.
Don't change the dpf, clean all the cats, not only the dpf, you should use a good product to clean it, there are some good ones that don't even require to take the parts off if you have access to the cat/dpf through p.e.a temperature sensor. You don't even need to force the regen with diagbox
But the exhaust has to come off to be fixed anyway...
@@UPnDOWN yes, you have to fix that leak, it's true, but I keep the advice for cleaning the dpf even if out of the car, good luck 🤞
Shame not to take advantage of “cheap” Eurodiesel on your trip as well as C6 comfort but at least you’ll make use of all the S-Max qualities and you did owe it a holiday from the last time…..
Oh dear.
Had the same exhaust failure on my C4 Pic - split at the joint 3/4 of the way round.
Having fun on it now - need to clean a sticky rear brake calliper. But how on earth do I release the handbrake? It’s an auto so bound to be next to impossible
Now then .. is that a bottle of “Smith &Allan” engine oil sat at the bottom of the stairs?? I don’t know anyone else who uses their stuff. I’ve been buying their oil for about ten years and it seems to be thoroughly decent. If that’s what it is there on the stairs, what do you reckon to it?
Yup, I use their stuff. Westway too. Oils for people who are more bothered by the actual spec of the oil than the branding.
It lloks like a lot of exhausting work to fix it properly 🤔
Just watched the latest C6 saga ( in France,in Carnac,rubbish wifi allowing !!) You cannot sell the C6,that are is you, I hope your holiday went OK.
Daft question, couldn't you have just done a forced regen before deciding to replace the whole DPF? Or is it too blocked for that?
Problem is that the hole in the exhaust would have prevented the slightly blocked dpf from being detected, and now it is almost completely blocked.
A video on cleaning a C6 dpf might be amusing (for the viewers).
He's answered it better than I would have!
Can't you put a patch in that hole? It could be a solution to save some money
@@cristianosantos9588 I was thinking he could use one of those cleaner cans where you spray it in, leave it overnight and thrash the gonads off it the next day, we use them at work and they do actually resurrect DPFs that are beyond a regen
@@ArlenMoulton2 yes, I've mentioned that in another comment here, sounds like the simplest solution, especially if he also cleans the cats
You dont need to take the dpf to clean it
I do to fix the leaky exhaust, so may as well clean it properly when that's done.
A bit of metal,some putty and a jubilee clip,,done that many times,,,itll last ages.
The Iain Terrell hose? Do you use that to tune carburetor?
The what hose?!
Would you consider running it on a thicker oil instead of 5W30? That noise on start up seems to be common to all those Lion V6’s…
See the next vid... 😁 (When it comes)
Keep the 5w30 please, especially the c2 spec, because if that car is already thirsty, it will be even worse with a thicker oil or an oil that doesn't comply with that spec. Also, iirc, it requires a low saps oil to help with the dpf
One more thing, if the dpf is getting clogged (therefore the car is trying to execute the regen process) usually the oil loses its quality severely. Beware of that, cause many cars suffer lubrication problems because of that
Very cool car those. There’s some mental case trying to sell one for £11/12k doing the rounds lol not even low miles, a standard exec spec car
Beware. I bought mine for 8 or so years ago for £4k - I'd haggled down from an £8k starting price - yeah, I know - and I'm now in to the tune of £20k, and that's before I start the cosmetic work.. The going rate at the time was £12 to £14k so your prospective seller must have a pristine low miler on his hands.
@@stewartmcnaughton3395 I know guys off his head. It’s £2k with the wind behind it today. Definitely a labour of love car. Good to see people keeping them going though
@@louisjames1062 I don't regard myself as its owner. I'm merely it's custodian.
When I explain this to my son though, and give him the 'one day all of this will be yours' speil, I can virtually read "this heap will be sold before your body is cold" in his eyes as I tell him. 🤣
Question Mr UPD. What temperature will the orange sealant handle? I need to do a short term exhaust job for my MOT about 0.5m after the maniverter and flexi. 😢
380c
Because HunNu....oh, wrong channel
oh you can make channel in france cars only...
TVRs & Hillman Imps aren't French, though...
@@UPnDOWN But need fix like french cars 😉 i waiting for some Proton fix. or the first fully functional Renault Espace mk4
Are you avoiding to tell us what´s wrong with the S-Max?
No, it's just not part of the video (or the 'fleet', technically)
So what is wrong with the (less broken) SMax again?
Lots, but the list is getting smaller and smaller thankfully.
Is the DPF on the C6 easily serviceable. (Can it be removed, opened up and flushed?)
I bloody hope so!
Ye turrboss bad me lovely
Turns out they're not...
Would that hole effect performance?
The blocked DPF would affect it a lot more.
Why do you use waterless coolant?
See his in depth video on that topic! Bought 10L myself after that 😂
See my waterless coolant vid.
Dpfs clog on anything, 10 year life they reckon
Timing chain noise? Pretty sure it's a belt on the Lion diesel
Not between the camshafts.
Flange!............ 🙊
Giggidy
😀
C6 does faults. Because diesel. You've just reaffirmed my dislike of the smelly horrible things. Sorry, hate me if you like but, , , no.
Show me a petrol car where the exhaust has lasted 16 years.
Diesels don’t smell, don’t leak and run cooler than petrol so you get less failures as long as the car is maintained properly. Plus, I get. 60 mpg from my 3008 even though it’s getting old at 6 years of age. Never done less than 60 since brand new ph, and fully ulez compliant.
@@stevenmoran4060 Glad you have a good car. Personally, I really don't like diesels. Just my opinion.
Please forgive me@@stevenmoran4060 I currently drive a petrol-engine April 2007-build Volkswagen Polo 1.2 that's on its original exhaust, 109000 motorway miles. Some discolouration on the rear silencer but still looks shiny and normal otherwise, and sounds very quiet. I don't know how much longer it will last though. I'm considering buying a Citroen or Peugeot soon, this '65-plate 208 1.6 BlueHDi Active I looked at last week was a really nice car.
I wish it was petrol SO much.
it's begining to sound like you have a racist ford that don't like french!
Yeah....I'm first!
Deal with it, losers! 😁
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