Taira no Kagekiyo (Kagekiyo of Taira) is basically a pseudo-alter version for Ushiwakamaru/Yoshitsune as a character, according to the translated voicelines here, she felt betrayed/abandoned by her brother and the genji clan at one point when she was alive. That betrayal incarnated itself as an embodiment of hate for all Genjis: "Taira no Kagekiyo" which as you can see is suffering an identity crisis due to that incarnation possessing Yoshitsune's body. The body that Kagekiyo possesses is a body of Ushiwakamaru which at some point has served as one of your servants leading to her habit of referring to you as "Lord" (in Japanese) instead of "Master" (in English/Katakana). Due to her being a really loyal person, once the mask is removed, she's basically Ushi in a traumatic/PTSD-ish state due to her feelings of fear, anger, uncertainty/doubtfulness, resentment, etc conflicting with her memories of loyalty and nostalgia. Once you've removed her mask, hug her tightly comfort her, FGO's best tanuki needs your care right now, give it to her (Though her negative feelings aren't going to disappear anytime soon due to being summoned as an "Avenger" class servant, she can still at least relieve herself from being lonely)
@@michaelshu9716 Where Joan/Jeanne indiscriminately forgives the people who burned her and her alter was created fictionally by a mad Jeanne simp, Ushi's on the other hand has much more depth and complications behind it. In which case I answer: No, and much darker without a doubt
I am kinda surprised she still holds animosity towards Raikou though. Yeah, shes still genji but, she didnt exactly enjoy the position, especially after her father basically ordered her to become a demigod incubator and kill Kintoki.
Re: Third Ascension's 38 degrees of honesty, I think I saw something about there being 38(?) Spirits that have enough of a vendetta against the Genji to be summoned as Kagekiyo. So, Idunno, maybe that's the shared wish of all possible Kagekiyos? My favorite line is the one for Benkei.
It is quite sad to see how ushiwakamaru ended up divided into two parts by his own death and legend. an enlightened version without darkness that only wishes to serve you and help without any resentment or hatred towards others. and the other part formed from the legend that she was Taira no Kagekiyo and the hatred that formed in her being after being betrayed thus creating a union between his legend, hatred and compatibility with Taira no Kagekiyo, therefore Taira is not really Taira no Kagekiyo but is like a kind of imposter like benkei but is also Taira. Indeed that is, quite a sad and depressing fate
Depression? You kidding? At first, because the banner says Kagekiyo, many of us were worried that she would be Kagekiyo entirely, or at the very least, completely given up on her existence like Saleiri is about being the Grey Man or Edmond is bout being the Count, giving up on their humanity. With maskless Bond 5, we finally get adult Ushiwakamaru, Yoshitsune, back to us completely like a long lost friend. For an avenger to say "I am...Ushiwaka" is pretty much a miracle.
It is mentioned before that if a servant is greatly influenced enough then those memories will be carried over to future versions of themselves summoned even if they don't remember some of the events that lead to that development. It is why some servants are trying to push the F/GO master to develop certain servants so they can move on from their personal issues in future summons once they return to the throne. One example is Merlin pushing him to develop Mordred so she can mature mentally and carry that development to her future summons.
@@orrthehunter yeah Mordred has really growth thanks to that interaction with Ritsuka, like her hatred for Artoria, and she declaring loyalty to one king. Hell she even acts more "girly" sometimes
Noted. Keep Raikou and masks THE HELL AWAY from her. And dont forget hugs. LOTS of hugs. Basically, making her your living, breathing dakimakura - should do the trick. P.S. Thx for the translation.
In the Kagekiyo form she's like a true avenger, completed blind by vengeance, not much different than a Berserker blind by madness tbh (0:33 that line though haha) The Yoshitsune form we can see the bits of Ushi resurging step by step. I especially liked the progress within the bond lines, but it also makes me sad seeing our poor Ushi suffering a identity crises like this T_T (the lack of any headpat lines is unforgivable). Thanks so much for the translations! You did a awesome job, editing, with the notes, translations and even the NP lines! Im subscribing!
If I had to take a shot every time she said the words 'kill' and 'Genji', this translation would never have come out. So, i agree, she's truly Avenger. Yeah 4th and 5th Bond LVL lines just killed me inside when I translated them, too. At least I was glad to learn that she has 2 sets of dialogue and that our Ushiwaka is still in her body.
@@RikuSempaiENG I understand now why some ppl didn't liked Kagekiyo at first impressions (Im a huge Ushi fan, I felt doubt too), she's basically a Genji killing machine in the first/second form. However, I saw a bit in the jp side, fans saying the event did a good job expanding the situation that lead to this and also, apparently, it gave Kagekiyo a new light? Perhaps she is one of those cases in which the event kinda covers her story better. Other thing that I know of the event is that Ushi and Hougen interactions/ disciple and master dynamic is one of the big highlights and was a gigantic sucess (plushies incoming!).
@@joaofaria7404 I'm still giggling even now that the entire event happened because Hougen hit Ushi with the magical hammer/mallet (even though Ushi brought that herself) lol. This event was pretty hilarious.
She said Tomoe overcame her hatred right? Dw: avenger Tomoe on the way! Also Ushi is young Kagekiyo right? The fact that she stated it is sad that her brother betrayed her is because she doesn't experience that betrayal but only knows it as information. This Kagekiyo on the other hand, experience this so of course she has every right to be mad.
Kagekiyo is the name of clan that feuds with Minamoto (Genji). Ushiwaka is Ushiwaka. But you're right in your judgement. The young Ushiwaka in Rider form has a deep respect for her brother and has not yet been betrayed by him. Due to psychological trauma, Ushiwaka (Yoshitsune) uses Kagekiyo's personality to justify her hatred of Genji's clan. At 3rd ascension, her mask breaks and she begins to remember who she really is.
Thanks for the translation. I've been waiting one for a while. On the side note, I'm curious if dialogue 3 of first and second ascension has any relation to LB5.5. I feel like it refers to there by the way the line is written, but I don't know.
Gramps : kubi wo
Taira : genji
Gramps : KUBI WO
Taira : GENJI
Gramps : KUBIIII WOOOO
Taira : GENJIIIIII
No matter what form, Ushi will always be our Ushi: someone get this Avenger some headpats!
About that, I got murdered by her.
@@Palerider47 Eh, no one's perfect
Cool to see Yositsune regain control later on
I think I speak for all of us that we have only one thing to say to her after her bond 5....
"...Welcome back home...Ushiwaka."
I can't believe she's got a line for Angra.
That is a rare thing indeed. Pretty sure Jalter's the only one who's ever gotten a line about him.
well thats new, not many people acknowledge angra mainyu presence
Dantes also has a line for angry man
Dantes also has a line for him
It’s an Avenger thing.
Bazett has one line too
Ushi years ago:I look better as an adult.
Us now:agreed
Take a shot everytime she says gENjI
Dude I'd be wasted x10
that would be around 43 shots?
W A S T E D
DEAD.
If I had a dollar for every time Kagekiyo said "Genji", I will be able to NP5 her already.
Taira no Kagekiyo (Kagekiyo of Taira) is basically a pseudo-alter version for Ushiwakamaru/Yoshitsune as a character, according to the translated voicelines here, she felt betrayed/abandoned by her brother and the genji clan at one point when she was alive.
That betrayal incarnated itself as an embodiment of hate for all Genjis: "Taira no Kagekiyo" which as you can see is suffering an identity crisis due to that incarnation possessing Yoshitsune's body. The body that Kagekiyo possesses is a body of Ushiwakamaru which at some point has served as one of your servants leading to her habit of referring to you as "Lord" (in Japanese) instead of "Master" (in English/Katakana).
Due to her being a really loyal person, once the mask is removed, she's basically Ushi in a traumatic/PTSD-ish state due to her feelings of fear, anger, uncertainty/doubtfulness, resentment, etc conflicting with her memories of loyalty and nostalgia.
Once you've removed her mask, hug her tightly comfort her, FGO's best tanuki needs your care right now, give it to her
(Though her negative feelings aren't going to disappear anytime soon due to being summoned as an "Avenger" class servant, she can still at least relieve herself from being lonely)
soo is it like a Salieri case?
@@avesta4206 Haven't delved into his backstory yet, so I can neither accept nor reject such comparison
Is this more like jean case? Or much darker?
@@michaelshu9716 Where Joan/Jeanne indiscriminately forgives the people who burned her and her alter was created fictionally by a mad Jeanne simp, Ushi's on the other hand has much more depth and complications behind it.
In which case I answer: No, and much darker without a doubt
I am kinda surprised she still holds animosity towards Raikou though. Yeah, shes still genji but, she didnt exactly enjoy the position, especially after her father basically ordered her to become a demigod incubator and kill Kintoki.
Re: Third Ascension's 38 degrees of honesty, I think I saw something about there being 38(?) Spirits that have enough of a vendetta against the Genji to be summoned as Kagekiyo. So, Idunno, maybe that's the shared wish of all possible Kagekiyos?
My favorite line is the one for Benkei.
I guess so
Kagekiyo tryed to kill Yoritomo 37 times and she's saying what 38 will be successful
Genji: **breathing**
Taira: *REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!*
Woah if she wasn’t an Avenger, she’s definitely make a good Berserker for sure
Everything is alright until your waifu smells a Genji nearby.
me, who haven't blessed by a single genji,
"phew"
Jesus, She needs a hug, and a headpat. Bloody Summoning mechanics.
Ushi. you are still there...Im not crying.
Some hassans are cutting onions....
It is quite sad to see how ushiwakamaru ended up divided into two parts by his own death and legend.
an enlightened version without darkness that only wishes to serve you and help without any resentment or hatred towards others.
and the other part formed from the legend that she was Taira no Kagekiyo and the hatred that formed in her being after being betrayed thus creating a union between his legend, hatred and compatibility with Taira no Kagekiyo, therefore Taira is not really Taira no Kagekiyo but is like a kind of imposter like benkei but is also Taira.
Indeed that is, quite a sad and depressing fate
Makes a weird bit of sense that she’s handling her identity crisis better than Sal’ did.
She went from a cute tanuki to a person with identity problems and I love her xd
Thank you!! I have been waiting to see the voice lines of Kagekiyo translated for a week but I couldn't find anywhere so this saved me
I took shot after every time she said genji. Help, I can't sober up
Finally the one video I've been waiting for.
Man, that 3rd ascension bond 4 line with hurts.
A lot of Genji words on her My Room lines huh quite a lot 🙃
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
Avenger Yoshitsune: *I SMELL GENJI*
Thx bro! You're awesome. Thx for good montage and translation. Sorry for bad English, but you realy great. Thank you so much for your hardwork!
Thank you too for such nice words! I appreciate it!
im going to cry
This is excellent, thank you!
Thank you for your great work, i really like all hayamin servant, maskless taira bond 4-5 really make me want to hug her
came here to see some fluff all i got was identity crisis and depression
Depression? You kidding? At first, because the banner says Kagekiyo, many of us were worried that she would be Kagekiyo entirely, or at the very least, completely given up on her existence like Saleiri is about being the Grey Man or Edmond is bout being the Count, giving up on their humanity.
With maskless Bond 5, we finally get adult Ushiwakamaru, Yoshitsune, back to us completely like a long lost friend. For an avenger to say "I am...Ushiwaka" is pretty much a miracle.
Interesting how this Ushi remembers us. What's that about?
Maybe she somehow has the memories of her Babylonia self or something of the sort? Idk.
It is mentioned before that if a servant is greatly influenced enough then those memories will be carried over to future versions of themselves summoned even if they don't remember some of the events that lead to that development.
It is why some servants are trying to push the F/GO master to develop certain servants so they can move on from their personal issues in future summons once they return to the throne. One example is Merlin pushing him to develop Mordred so she can mature mentally and carry that development to her future summons.
@@orrthehunter yeah Mordred has really growth thanks to that interaction with Ritsuka, like her hatred for Artoria, and she declaring loyalty to one king. Hell she even acts more "girly" sometimes
I've never wanted to NP5 a five star so bad
I got her np5 with 2.4k sq starter account (around 4$) xd
I gotta save and pray this event will get a rerun because I can't even get her to NP2
@@hiuramybeloved wtf 4$ for the account
She seem to be more berserker than avenger.
Noted. Keep Raikou and masks THE HELL AWAY from her.
And dont forget hugs.
LOTS of hugs.
Basically, making her your living, breathing dakimakura - should do the trick.
P.S. Thx for the translation.
In the Kagekiyo form she's like a true avenger, completed blind by vengeance, not much different than a Berserker blind by madness tbh (0:33 that line though haha)
The Yoshitsune form we can see the bits of Ushi resurging step by step. I especially liked the progress within the bond lines, but it also makes me sad seeing our poor Ushi suffering a identity crises like this T_T (the lack of any headpat lines is unforgivable).
Thanks so much for the translations!
You did a awesome job, editing, with the notes, translations and even the NP lines! Im subscribing!
If I had to take a shot every time she said the words 'kill' and 'Genji', this translation would never have come out. So, i agree, she's truly Avenger.
Yeah 4th and 5th Bond LVL lines just killed me inside when I translated them, too. At least I was glad to learn that she has 2 sets of dialogue and that our Ushiwaka is still in her body.
@@RikuSempaiENG I understand now why some ppl didn't liked Kagekiyo at first impressions (Im a huge Ushi fan, I felt doubt too), she's basically a Genji killing machine in the first/second form. However, I saw a bit in the jp side, fans saying the event did a good job expanding the situation that lead to this and also, apparently, it gave Kagekiyo a new light? Perhaps she is one of those cases in which the event kinda covers her story better.
Other thing that I know of the event is that Ushi and Hougen interactions/ disciple and master dynamic is one of the big highlights and was a gigantic sucess (plushies incoming!).
@@joaofaria7404 I'm still giggling even now that the entire event happened because Hougen hit Ushi with the magical hammer/mallet (even though Ushi brought that herself) lol. This event was pretty hilarious.
Really nice content out there! Hope you can make more videos like this :))
Broly: KAKAROT
Kagekiro: GENJI
Me: they are both the same.
Nice!!
She said Tomoe overcame her hatred right?
Dw: avenger Tomoe on the way!
Also Ushi is young Kagekiyo right? The fact that she stated it is sad that her brother betrayed her is because she doesn't experience that betrayal but only knows it as information. This Kagekiyo on the other hand, experience this so of course she has every right to be mad.
Kagekiyo is the name of clan that feuds with Minamoto (Genji). Ushiwaka is Ushiwaka. But you're right in your judgement. The young Ushiwaka in Rider form has a deep respect for her brother and has not yet been betrayed by him. Due to psychological trauma, Ushiwaka (Yoshitsune) uses Kagekiyo's personality to justify her hatred of Genji's clan. At 3rd ascension, her mask breaks and she begins to remember who she really is.
Ryujin wo keno kurae!
is it just me or ushi avenger reminds me of gudao/gudako
I liked her when she was masked.
Guys... I think she hates the Genji.
Most unluckiest person in the world "Genji"
Time to make drinking game for eventide she say Genshi
Thanks for the translation. I've been waiting one for a while.
On the side note, I'm curious if dialogue 3 of first and second ascension has any relation to LB5.5. I feel like it refers to there by the way the line is written, but I don't know.