Sizing Up ACC Candidates / BIG TEN or SEC?
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This video would have been great if you would have gave you opinions on where each school would fit in the 2 conferences rather than just being a statics video. Just my opinion
Fine here you go:
Boston College- B12
Syracuse- B12
Pittsburgh- B12
Louisville- B12
Virginia- SEC
Virginia Tech- SEC
North Carolina- B10
Duke- B10
NC State- B12
Wake Forest- B12
Clemson- SEC
Georgia Tech- SEC
Florida State- B10
Miami- B10
California- B10
Stanford- B10
SMU- B12
* B12 adds Memphis, UConn, or South Florida
You're welcome.
@@timoaks3732UVA B1G with UNC, GT, Miami, FSU and ND would be ideal.
@@timoaks3732 Syracuse is a stretch but a real possibility...they had been vetted years ago to the Big 10 before they invited Rutgers instead. But Boston College?!! Good luck with that one!! More like a candidate for the American Conference. Personally, I'd like to see the American snub them and they have to join their Catholic Basketball Conference. Wake Forest is another one that will be hopeful if they get an invite to the American Conference. But there is always the Sun Belt or C-USA for them. SMU....the American won't take them back unless they get poached and need replacements. Otherwise, it's C-USA or Sun Belt for SMU. Satanford and Berkley? They can go OFFICIALLY JOIN the CCP. NOBODY in the USA wants them!! They can always go play with themselves. They'll just add another letter to their Woke gender identity....LGBTQAM. LOL
And GA Tech LEFT the SEC because they wanted to focus on academics and research not bring in flunkies to win them football games. Unless the SEC offers a FULL payout just like UGA or BAMA get...they'd rather be in the Big 12...but hope for that invite to The AAU Conference.
I think guess Professional College Football Conference realignment is getting to be more fun than watching millionaire kids play for a year then switch up teams ...worse than the current No Fun League!
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I'd like to see the SEC add teams like Oklahoma State, North Carolina, Colorado Wyoming, California...
You have Greenville NC and Greenville SC markets confused. Clemson is part of the Greenville SC/Spartanburg/Asheville TV market which is the 36th largest TV market and almost 40 spots above Columbia SC at #76 as you pointed out. The GSA market also stretches into Northern Georgia.
Thank you for the clarification.
VT and UVA are in the same markets. Plus Norfolk. Va Tech has a massive alumni base in north Va and inside of the beltway
Most of the Norfolk recuits pick VT over UVA.
I want Georgia Tech to big 10 then I can watch Michigan football in the ATL
Tons Of UM alumni in Atlanta I agreee GT!!
I hope you’re right Mark. Nothing scares me more than tech being left behind in realignment like Oregon state and Washington state. Us being down for a few years is one thing but worrying about if your program will survive is much much worse.
I am a Big Ten guy, but I absolutely value your program even though that doesn't help you at all lol! Blacksburg and that home atmosphere just needs to be woken up again, you guys have a great program I think!
I don''t hate FSU being a Cane. I hate fucking TEch. WE better win this year. Go Canes!
@@mikemechanix2118 I meant Georgia Tech 😭😭😭
Excellent points. Thanks
I think the SEC (ESPN) will pass on Florida State, taking Clemson and North Carolina. The Big 10 will try to get Florida State and Notre Dame. If the Irish refuse to buckle, I think the Big 10 will get Miami as a "partner" with the Seminoles.
I don't think SEC has an option to pass. FSU is not wanting the SEC except as a second option.
Florida state will not be heading to the SEC they will be heading to the Big Ten
NC just doesn't fit the SEC profile due to academics and the size of the total athletic program. The only other conference that could support NC is the Big 10. If NC leaves the ACC then the only option is the Big 10.
I think the networks will dictate which team goes where. This is all about the money.
If the Networks are dictating things, its Notre Dame 1A and FSU and Miami 1B!
BINGO! This is why the SEC will get their pick. Disney won't lose.
@@arronfrazier7873 Except Miami is 49th in tv viewership.
@@timkinley1779 What is USC, UCLA and Rutgers tv viewership?
The problem with GaTech and Atlanta is the Atlanta Journal Constitution, GaTech is number 5 in Atlanta - their home market. UGa obviously number 1 in Atlanta, then Alabama, FSU, and Auburn all ahead of GaTech in Atlanta. Forget the rest of Georgia.
Lots of VA Tech fans in Northern Virginia, the DC TV market. The VT alumni out number UVa fans in the Commonwealth 4:1 Ga Tech #4 potential? Swap them with VT. Clemson under UVa and VT for media markets.
Tallahassee is closer to Tampa and Orlando than Miami
Not by much. Tally is north FL, tampa/Orlando is mid, and Miami is south.
No, its not! I live here in Clearwater right next to the Gulf and bridge drive away from Tampa! It takes me longer to drive to Tallahassee than Miami!
Love the show!
Appreciate it.
Mark, not a huge deal, but just correcting what you said. Clemson is ranked #43 for public univs. out of 1600 in us. I would say that lil engine is doing just fine. The #85 ranking is for all colleges including ivy League and other private schools like vandy. Thx
That may well not be good enough for the B1G. Would be near bottom of B1G academically.
Good stuff.
And they're all laughing right back you, while cashing their checks...and thanking GOD, that they are not in the ACC, or BIG 12. Now, that is GREAT stuff.
Clemson is closet to Greenville which is one of the largest metro areas in South Carolina so I’d expect their TV market to at least be mentioned over Columbia and Atlanta
North Carolina Schools can draw from the state of North Carolina, Virginia, and South Carolina. If the SEC only wants to get two more teams then UNC and UVA would be the best options. With those schools though you have make sure they play their instate rivals as permanent out of conference games and that should allow for approval by each of the state systems.
UNC has to go with NCST. It's law
And UVA and VT are pairs. Also, UVA isn't the best option for anything unless the goal is to get a big endowment.
Virginia was possibly the worst Power5 team in the country last season.
If the SEC wants the DMV/Va and NC markets their best bet is Clemson (Charlotte), NCSU and VT (especially for DMV. There is also the reality that academically UNC and UVA think the SEC is the unwashed Wal Mart shoppers.
Why the love and HELMET for UNC? Have you ever been to Kenan? UNC just removed capacity.
I like how Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State and Miami are able to recruit players in High School and the Transfer Portal in the ACC and if they had to go to their new conference, I think the SEC can have some talks about getting all of them aboard!!! Teams like Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, North Carolina State, Wake Forest, Duke, and Louisville would be good additions in the b10 as well.
FSU is in the deep south good ole boy country. I just can't see FSU with southern fans in the Big10.
You must not live here in Florida! I do as Cane fan and I'm originally from Chicago. This state is full of B10 fans and alums the top to the bottom.
Is endowment $ used for athletics?
Not usually.
Missed out on mentioning Louisville. One of the largest teams/TV markets for college athletics in the ACC (even with god awful basketball right now). If the B1G scooped it up and Louisville was able to get on its feet on the court, it would be a huge win for the B1G in expanding market size and starting to have southern expansion without being too far radically south. Honestly could be a such a good move to try and move some of the Kentucky market away from that school in Lexington and directly compete against the SEC.
We’ll get to it. Thanks man.
I think it ends up with Florida St in the B1G being pair with Clemson (if they just want football), UVA (fits all the academics side of B1G) or Miami (decent school and decent football). Personally think B1G likely goes to UVA or Miami.
There is some talk of a 4 block of teams wanting to go together in UVA, UNC, Clemson and whichever NC school UNC takes along saying they want to move to SEC as a solid block. Which I would see the SEC accepting.
If the 4 block is true, then likely those 4 do end up in the SEC. FSU and probably Miami (outside chance to GA Tech) go to B1G. Then VA Tech, Louisville, Pitt and the left over of Duke/NC St and Miami/GA Tech go to Big12. If Duke isn’t UNC’s +1 then could see them trying for Big12 or going to AAC in football and Big East in everything else.
If the 4 block isn’t true, then B1G I think ends up adding UVA and Florida St. SEC then gets VA Tech, UNC, Clemson and UNC’s +1 or Kansas/WVU. Big12 adds most of the remainders. Wake, Syracuse, and BC likely get left out.
There is no way all of these teams end up in 1 of the big 2. If the B10 wanted Stanford or Cal, they would already be in the B10. Syracuse, BC probably end up in the AAC
For someone who attended a big ten school and lived in south Florida. Based on the academics and culture I would believe that FSU is better in the SEC and Miami fits better in the Big Ten. AAU affiliation is super important to the Big Ten. Miami fits that bill along with an large international student body.
Its not about academics! Its about CFB national brands, 3rd largest state of Florida, Miami vs FSU rivalry game and B10 weekly match ups with Miami and FSU apart of those weekly matchup nationally!
Why is FSU better in SEC. Due to things that have happened since the playoff snub, the sentiment among fans has turned against the SEC. The administration at FSU has always leaned B1G for reasons of academics.
I’m a Penn State alumni but born and raised in FLA. There are a bunch of Miami alumni and fans up north. When Miami came to Happy Valley that stadium was sold out, luckily I got in the student section, but, that was awesome. Miami and FSU need to be paired together, both fan bases talk smack to each other, but, those are always great games. Plus the BIG will have that fertile recruiting ground in SO FL. If a peon like me can figure that out, so can the SEC guys. I think it will be interesting in the coming months.
@@mrflyazz9605 Miami and FSU will be paired like USC and UCLA will pair! Who will feel the Oregon and Washington spots! The B10 and its tv partners aren't passing on the State of Florida over trying to get UVA, UNC, Clemson or VT. Remember, the SEC has a footprint in Florida already with UF. The B10 doesn't have footprint in the Southeast period. Their only logical and first choice is in Florida!
@@mrflyazz9605
Good points. I attended Michigan, but I am really concerned about Miami filling out their “home” stadium at Hard Rock. Every Big Ten school has their own stadium. Miami playing in Hard Rock is second fiddle in a Dolphins. There will be more Michigan fans attending Miami home games than Miami on Saturdays. Why Miami left their old orange bowl stadium is beyond me.
You left Louisville off who would likely be top 5 on your list based on your criteria. Maybe a follow up that includes them
Louisville’s. Only real hope outside of the ACC is the Big 12 and reuniting with their old Big East buddies Cincy and WVU. Which I personally think would be great. I also think that if the ACC did start falling UofL would be an immediate invite for the Big 12, which I’ve always thought they should have been with WVU when they joined.
Louisville is no where near a good enough school and not the national power house of Clemson or Florida State to ignore their academics for the B1G.
For the SEC, they already control all of the state with UK, so their is no need to add in a second team as KY is not a hot bed for recruits. UK itself is already on a large number of TV’s even in Louisville, so it’s not like you are losing that market.
Ik Notre Dame isn't in the ACC for football but including them would've been fun. If the ACC collapses then Notre Dame will pretty much have their hand forced. Also Duke should've been included if the Virginia schools got included lol
I wouldn't say Miami Head Coaches have all been terrible....Manny Diaz was not given time to turn a shitstorm around...but stepped into Penn State and as DC has OUTSTANDING!! So maybe The Peter Principle is in affect with him? Did he rise to the level of his incompetence? Now at as HC, we will see if he can turn nothing into something. But I KNEW he jumped way too soon from DC at Penn State to get any HC position. Had, he waited another year, he could have a Top 25 job. Or even another month!! He would be in consideration for several top positions around the country.
The only Miami coach to have a 10 win season in the last 20 years was Mark Richt. What does that say about Miami as a destination for elite coaches? Or for elite players? Every year for the past 20 years before each season we hear from Miami fans that "the U is back!" Still waiting.
You should do a follow up comparing these schools to schools we know the BIG10 and SEC said no to in recent years; CAL, Stanford, Utah, Arizona, Kansas. How well do these schools stack up to those schools? Because we know the SEC and BIG10 didn't snatch them up.
B1G will decide on T.V. market and AAU affiliation. Academic rating is not what is important, its if they are in the AAU. I know people don't want to hear it but AAU is VERY important to B1G. My guess is if they have their eye on anyone it's Virginia and NC. That has been the rumor for the last year, year and a half.
Miami is AAU because of research
Va Tech is not a huge football draw. Years ago my job transferred me to Danville Va in the year that Michael Vick had them in the championship game. After work, I went to a local pub to eat and watch the game. They had all 15 tvs on Nascar. I had to ask for them to put a small tv in the corner on the championship game. Unreal!
Huh? On what planet is VT not a big football draw?
You should go back and consider the CFB attendance numbers for 2018-2022. Who brings fans in not something you took under consideration. You especially give GT and UVA too much credit when eyes that care enough to go to games just aren't there and UNC is not all that either.
FSU, Clemson, A NC school and a Virginia school to the SEC
The only NC or VA schools that either the B1G or SEC would take are UNC and UVa. That is it. why do you believe that FSU will be going to the SEC?
Florida state will not be heading to that sec because ESPN they said they committed a felony inciting with the ACC so they will be heading to the Big Ten
@@observer466 You do know that the academic side of both UVA and UNC see the SEC as beneath their dignity. there will be an internal fight . Those 2 will take a B10 offer whom they see as more their academic equals. The SEC will get way more mileage out of schools that actually show they can fill their home stadiums.
My-guess-is-the-SEC-just-wants-UNC-and-VIrginia-but-might-add-FSU/Miami-as-well-to-keep-the-big-10-out-of-the-south-part-of-the-country...Clemson-to-big-10...Syracuse,NCState,Duke,Pittsburg-to-Big-12
NC should have a large endowment with all those stud basketball players including Michael Jordon.
It is so funny to hear people say the big two when Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Vanderbuilt, Mississippi State, Kentucky, etc... LOL!
Kentucky has been competitive in recent years. But yeah, the Big10 especially has a lot of cupcakes. They needed the talent infusion from Oregon, Washington, and USC. I expect some of the weaker teams will be jettisoned when the Power2 merge to create a college football premier league.
@@atgdcommish608Kentucky has been good in OOC (which only includes bad MAC teams and Louisville and never any other P5 opponents) and then hella mid in SEC play. Nothing remarkable besides the one 10 win year.
Iowa won the west by two games and even lowly ISU almost beat them this year. 🙂
In case you haven't noticed, college reallignment is all about MONEY, not the quality of any given football program. I am pretty sure the Big Ten is quite happy with their (somewhat) recent additions of Rutgers and Maryland, given their academic strength and TV markets.
Indiana has been good in the last few years but not lately. Basketball is still in control though
It's all about the TV $, TV will decide most of this. Media mkts are enormous in the desirability of a school and as has been said AAU is the biggest part of it for the Big 10. That money seems to be bigger for schools that are in the Big 10 than AAU for non Big 10 schools. The athletic conference money is minor compared to the AAU money. Ask U. Utah. They said leaving the Pac 12 (9 schools AAU ) and not being invited to Big 10 really hurt because of the research money they would lose even though they keep their AAU status. It wasn't the TV money loss that bothered them near as much as AAU research money loss not being in one of those conferences. There are now three schools in FL that are now AAU. U FL, S. FL, U Miami.
My guess: Miami, U FL, GT, UNC, ND to Big 10, U Nebraska out of Big 10 ( lost their AAU status ) FSU, NC St., VT to SEC. I don't have a feel for UVA. They don't bring a lot to the table that the Big 10 is looking for IMO nor the TV folks and seems to me that if SEC wants the Virginia mkt area they are better off taking VT, seems like a better fit for them. Big 10 already has N. Virginia, DC, Baltimore media mkt with MD. Could there be more to the SEC, possibly. Does SEC or Big 10 want Pittsburgh media mkt, possibly. Big 10 already has Penn State.
Ga tech have a national championship
How are you going to put FSU in the "Tallahassee" market, then give Clemson Atlanta, Charlotte, and Columbia? As if FSU isn't broadcast in Jacksonville, Orlando, Tampa, Miami, etc..
Once Florida State and Clemson leave the ACC, the Power2 will have all the elite football programs except Notre Dame. I'm not sure any other ACC teams would be in demand. Maybe North Carolina for basketball. And whoever misses out on FSU might want Miami as a consolation prize. I don't see Virginia as being a big draw, or NC State. Duke would probably go before them. Virginia Tech has a good fan base I guess.
Great stats dude confluence of data INvaluable
Appreciate it.
@@MarkRogersVOCFB absolutey I was curious as to the stats of both rankings and viewership..surprised FSU above private MIA as stereotype is inverse ....great work delineating likely jettisoning candidates vs NC state rumor with a UNC
Big 12 doesn’t want the castaways from the ACC.
Relevant to this vid how? i doubt the ACC wants any new BIG12 schools, so all should good on that factor.
They would probably add up to 4 teams from the ACC.
And your graphic says Clemson has 18 National titles. Not bad. 😀
2018 title
Your graphic said 13 National Titles. I knew FSU was good, didn't think they were that good. 😃
They had Clemson with 18.
1..... That's the number of times UVA has won 10 games in their 120 year history.
They have been to 21 bowl games. So 99 out of 120 seasons, UVA has not played in the post season.
UVA = Vanderbilt/Northwestern
In football, that is correct. Although Northwestern has been much better the last 25 years.
@@MarkRogersVOCFB exactly. Adding UVA to a stronger conference would just be adding another bottom feeder. How are they ever going to capture those markets when they get their shit pushed in year after year? No one tunes in to watch a perennial loser.
The only reason I could see the SEC considering them is that they want more bad teams to give the rest some relief from the gauntlet that is the current SEC schedule. The B1G absolutely should not consider adding UVA. Adding them would make everyone's slice of the pie smaller.
The Big Ten is not interested in any ACC school unless it can be proved to increase the income of each existing members share of the pie by a significant amount of $$$! The Big Ten is after the big TV markets more than a particular schools current football reputation. They also pride themselves on having strong academic reputations and all existing schools are members of the AAU which has higher recruiting standards than Florida State. As an Alum of a Big Ten school, we already have more than a full schedule of quality teams to play from the East Coast to the West Coast. Trying to expand the schedule further is logistically near impossible and not conducive to the quality of higher education. I could be wrong, but if I were an ACC school, I would look to the SEC as a better fit regionally and academically. I would be surprised if the Big Ten will tear up the current contract which will pay each member upwards of a 100 million annually to take a chance on any ACC school, especially Florida State.
The only thing that really matters is national “viewership”. That’s what brings in the money. FSU clearly leads the ACC in that department. Clemson is a close second, while Miami is a very distant third.
So long as you're a winning program with large viewership, academics won't matter even for the B10. Times have changed. They've shown their hand by letting in Nebraska and Oregon - both poorly ranked schools with a strong history in football. They're going to go after Clemson, FSU, Miami, and UNC way harder than UVA or GT.
It's about the AAU not academics per se. You're right on Nebraska though.
And this is why GT and that huge metro-Atlanta market are higher targets than a non-AAU FSU or Clemson.@@sumdude4281
Ivy league options
ivy league schools are not even FBS, so i expect the pac 2 merging what is left of the ACC and then take few teams from the American.
@@EyeOfTheWatcherPac2 is joining the mountain west. The acc schools won't join a conference of two. It's about where schools like Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Boston College, and Cal fit
The big leagues😂😂😂people actually subscribe to this crap😂😂😂
“The big leagues” Rutgers, Illinois, Vandy, Minnesota, Indiana 😂😂😂😂
NY, Chicago, Indi and Minneapolis TV markets.
@@sumdude4281 hate to break it to you, but NY does not give AF about Rutgers lmao
@@franklinking3600 i'm aware. But that is the rationale. The three markets to care about those teams and Chicago is the 3rd largest TV market in the country.
@@sumdude4281 okay, fair point
Big Ten candidates:
Notre Dame
FSU
UNC
UVA
Miami
Georgia Tech
Clemson
These are top candidates! 1 Notre Dame and 1A as a duo Miami and FSU. The B10 wants to win more with CFB. Having Miami and FSU in the B10, goes a long way for the B10 base schools to recruit and sign more players from Florida just like them getting USC and UCLA. Kids from California and Florida know, if they leave their state for college, they will play USC and UCLA home and away or they will play Miami and FSU home or away.
AAU. Until FSU obtains that status, The BIG is a no-go, IMO.
@@isaacsherman6850 The Big Ten publicly stated a year ago, or more that AAU status is not a requirement.
@@isaacsherman6850No, they are not! This is about football and money! The B10 wants into the South! The only two schools in the South in the largest state in the South, in the 3rd largest state worth getting into the B10 is Miami and FSU based on history, national brand, recruiting and weekly football match ups in the B10. The B10 tv partners will have say so in this!
Curious & interesting list: Miami’s biggest issue is failure to put fans in the stands. Outside a Florida State vs Miami game the stadium is empty. Sad but true. Virginia’s record
in football surprised me & North Carolina seems to be like a “Sleeping Beauty” that simply needs to wake up in football. Georgia Tech’s lack of support in Atlanta is deafening, so much so that Florida State ranks 3rd behind the Atlanta Falcons & University of Georgia. Media Markets? Of the previous Power-5 Conferences the ACC has the largest Media Markets. A little known fact about Tallahassee is its population, there are chunks of developed areas that have chosen not to be incorporated into Tallahassee City Limits; approximately, 1/4 million residents + the 90,000+ new students that move to Tallahassee every August with a sizable number staying with opportunities in the State of Florida Government & private contractors supporting the state & feds at hand. FSU, FAMU (a HBCU), and Tallahassee State College (formerly TCC with 25,000+ students).
Miami doesn't care about canes football. The entire region is flush with people yet they rank around 50th in TV viewership and can't sell out a home game. They rank around 46th in attendance. That isn't attractive to any conference. Miami has made more money of off the ACC payouts than the ACC has off of Miami.
@@tarheel7460 , Actually they did put fans in the stands during that era tar heel. They played in the Old Orange Bowl. Did you see that article with your Coach Mack Brown about UNC & NC State going to the Big-12?
This is the way things are trending UNC and either Clemson or UVA ( I bet Clemson) to the SEC and FSU and Miami or Clemson ( I bet Miami) to the Big 10.
Trending in your mind! UNC and UVA were vetted years ago by the Big 10...THAT is why that ridiculous Grant of Rights was concocted to keep The Carolina Basketball Conference together. Academic Bluebloods trump football chump change from ESPiN. Personally, I'd rather VA Tech be invited to the B1G over UVA, but either they both go or it's only going to be UVA, maybe?! FSU would be stupid to pass up an invite to The AAU Conference. And whoever they want to bring with them will also get an invite. Either Miami or Clemson? Or maybe GA Tech or UNC? Or VA Tech? But FSU is to the Southeast Atlantic Coast as USC is to the South Leftist Coast. They will be coming with full honors and get to bring whoever they decide. Albeit I think if the second isn't Clemson, they will get a pro-rated pay-out for the first several years. USC brought UCLA as a "local" partner. But UCLA's brand today is barely above Rutgers!! In fact, excluding TV revenue, Rutgers earned more than UCLA. I think Miami would outstrip UCLA as GA Tech would be about as big a brand...especially for the B1G to be in the Atlanta/SEC heart!
WHEN these schools do depart for the B1G, I am sure the SEC will expand its footprint into North Carolina and Virginia marketspace. They may even go as far as West Virginia, and/or add Louisville as an In-state rival for Kentucky and match membership numbers with the B1G Conference. Whatever is left of the Carolina Basketball Conference will either get Big 12 invites or be melded into the American as the "former Big East Basketball Conference."....Come to think of it, is it out of the question for the SEC to increase their membership numbers and footprint by inviting Oklahoma State and/or Kansa/Kansas State? Even Coach Prime? I mean Coach Hype? ...Sorry, I get confused...Colorado?
Yah - having lived in Florida almost my whole life - I can promise you everywhere but Miami in Florida is FSU/UF and Miami is a minor player in the market share. Even in places like Ft Lauderdale you see significantly more FSU clubs and watch parties at bars than Miami. In Tampa? Orlando? No one cares about Miami there
Miami is 49th in tv viewership. Nobody is watching Miami.
Clickbait ACC not going anywhere plus no North Carolina teams going to SEC per you - GREAT!
SEC has no interest in FSU. FSU does not improve current status of SeC.
SEC would be a step down . You can bet they will try to snag FSU but it isn't happening again....................................
That's good because FSU does not need (nor want) the SespnEC. Screw the CFP Committee, Saban's retirement, and ESPN in general.
Everyone knows Florida State is going to the Big Ten, worst kept secret ever
Academically, Miami is much more respected than fsu. Engineering, Law, Oceanography and Medical are all far ahead of fsu. Elementary Education, Retail and Mrs. may be higher at fsu. I say this as an instate recruiter.
Athletically FSU is more respected because Miami hasn’t won an important game in over 22 years and has like 17 fans that show up for games and don’t have their own stadium. Also keep coping about FSU being 14 spots behind FSU academically now
Yup. Academically and athletically, as they beat them in every category damn near.
Miami has been garbage for 23 years straight. Realistic potential my ass. You can tell it’s still February in Miami. Time of the preseason all Americans and national champs
The SEC will get their pick... ESPN to ESPN. It's that simple.
ESPN doesn't dictate to Fox or NBC!
@@arronfrazier7873 Disney has more $$$
@@WeSRT4 Disney/ESPN/ABC has been firing/letting go people and cutting its budget the last few years.
@@WeSRT4They won't when Elon gets done paying for lawsuits suing them, hopefully out of business.
Where does this leave fans of schools in the northeast? This will lose viewship bc now ncaa football will specifically be powerful in the southeast and Texas. No one in northeast or left coast will care, dropping viewership dramatically. College is fast becoming minor league. That is boring
Tampa and Orlando are.kuch more FSU markets than Miami. Even in Miami FSU probably has a better fan base in key demographics.
Not disagreeing with you. Up north in BIG X country you will find a lot more Miami alumni and fans though. That’s because they/me went up north to make more money than you can make in Florida. Even now back home in central FLA there are more FSU shirts than Miami shirts, that switches up north. There are more Miami shirts than FSU shirts. Regardless, I hope those 2 go as a pair, I don’t want that rivalry to break up
I don’t understand why the ACC wouldn’t work with the Big 12 to create their own super conference. The SEC/ Big 10 have seem set and would only use those schools for recruiting. The SEC used Texas A&M to recruit Texas which why I feel Texas had to move to the SEC to keep its home grown talent.
Numbers don't make a super conference. If FSU and Clemson leave, who is the premier program then? Utah? An ACC-Big12 merger would just reduce the number of playoff spots they get, from 2 or 3 to 1 or 2 each year.
The SEC did not use Texas A&M to recruit Texas. Texas decided, on their own, to request membership in the SEC. They reached out to the SEC, not the other way around. This is well documented no matter how people still desperately try to spin it.
Jim Phillips is lucky to know where ACC hdqrs never mind creating a super conference.
Two to the B1G, four to the SEC what happens next? Four to the XII?
B1G: ND, MIA
SEC: Clemson, FSU, UV, UNC
XII: Pitt, Duke, VT, NCST
Screwed: Cal, Stanford, SMU, GT, Syracuse, BC, Louisville
This is pure speculation. 1 in 100 chance it happens. 🙂
The Future of FSU is very very Bright!
Georgia Tech will not be above NC State or Louisville in the pecking order
Gtech recruiting potential is limited due to high academic standards so FSU should be over GT
That isn't true and hasn't been for a long time. Any player is eligible to receive a scholarship if they meet the minimum requirements. You think a bunch of 5-star dummies wouldn't get scholarship offers if they showed an interest in tech? Tech isn't a football school. If some big donor said, "Here is $100 million. Go buy some players." Those hs and portal players looking to get paid, would be welcomed with open arms and fanfare. I can promise you, GT has just as many dummies as expected.
Can we add real football programs and drop the Iowa circus please? The Hawkeyes are an embarrassment to the sport