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There's no cursing in Star Trek. Remember Spock and Kirk trying to learn cursing when they were in 20th century San Francisco? This show is not Star Trek, it's just angry stupid corporate SJW shit. Roddenberry is turning in his grave.
It's not quite 'Nihilistic" per se though, because the end-goal is the (hopeful) improvement in the shows & the (again, hopeful) restoration of quality to these franchises, back to the formerly high levels we once enjoyed at one time. If it were true "Nihilism," then it would consist of holding the older versions of these franchises in the same low regard as the new, but that is not the case.
I also get a fair bit of nostalgia of that which I held in higher regard...I used to love Start Trek TNG and Star Wars in general...I held it through The Phantom Menace, but that adult Anakin actor killed for me. I watched some Deep Space 9 but didn't like Voyager...
Anthony Guidas Agreed. A character has to have flaws and weaknesses to overcome to make them more real, relatable, and interesting. I guess the agenda-whore-writers missed that day in writing class.
Trixster Million Casting Picard as an old, white male just because that character had, had a stellar and accomplished career with Starfleet, is a clear indication of the systemic racism that exists in today's entertainment industry and the white-mail privilege that needs to be expunged from that business. The new Dr. Who has definitively shown how white-male lead characters should be replaced by females and just how much better the series will be for it.
Its funny because this isn't the first time I've seen this happen in a sci-fi franchise. Halo already pretty much did the exact same thing with the Karen Travis novels. In their quest of female empowerment, as well as making things 'darker and grittier' they also show women to be completely incompotent with power.
@@laurentguyot3362 No. I'm all for equality and all that jaz. But I am against these stupid hamhanded attempts at 'empowerment' that ruin frachises with terrible writing.
The fact that it makes perfect sense for the Tal Shiar to have an agent next to a man they've been targeting for OVER 40 YEARS IN UNIVERSE is infuriating because it's either going to be ignored or used as the most obvious twist that anyone with a pulse can see coming.
This is going to be like how I watch the EFAP’s for Batwoman. I’m not going to watch the actual show, but I am going to watch Drinker review each episode.
When Kirk needed a ship and noone provided him one, he STEALS it with his badass crew. And, btw, we had several strong moments with Uhura back then. That was a show done right.
I'm not someone who's bothered by cussing, in fact, probably do it myself far more often than one should. But there's something incredibly off-putting about hearing f-bombs in Star Trek. I guess I just figured Trek was above that kind of thing, guess I was wrong.
@@marklord7614 just from that one scene it seems like they threw it in there just because they could. Not because it was helpful to the dialogue or had any meaningful impact. That goes for the rest of this faux trek we've been getting.
Episode one: An entire android brain can be reconstructed from a single molecule. Episode two: An entire event can be reconstructed from a single molecule. Episode three: It turns out this whole thing was just an ad for homeopathy.
@@2bituser569 Depends. Look up the concept of holographic data recording and reconstruction. The theory is that if you have a fragment of a hologram, you can reconstruct the entire thing, although at a much lower fidelity. Considering that we don't know what a positronic neuron actually is, I am going to give this particular piece of technobabble a pass.
It's really bizarre to see characters in Star Trek curse. Especially considering Spock stated in IV: The Voyage Home that juvenile language was basically non-existent by the 23rd century. Oh wait I forgot, no one whose writing this show actually gives a shit about continuity.
"I mean, why would you want a bunch of highly trained, highly experienced Starfleet officers that you know you can trust and rely on? Oh, and, uh, Deanna Troi."
Troi was without a doubt one of the most annoying and superfluous characters in all Star Trek. She should be happy these soyboys weren't the main audience back in the day because she and her rack would have been out of a job.
@@MaestroTJS Actually, given a chance to act not basing solely on her impressive rack, Marina Sirtis delivered quite well ("The Face of The Enemy") and she puts all her heart into conventions. Her character was badly started, poorly thought out and poorly led, but she really did best what was possible, given thin and short end of stick handled to her.
The "I never really cared for science fiction" line isn't a cheap laugh. It's the combined middle fingers of the show's writers and producers, directed at all viewers of a science fiction series foolishly looking for more than contrived, manipulative, unsubtle, overly politicized character drama with some magical bullshit flying around in the background.
I'll be honest. It hurt a little bit that he said that. It's like being told everything you believed in was all a complete lie. Why do they hate us so much?
@@USSMariner Well, it's particularly aggravating - and that is the reason why I think the whole piece of dialogue is an intentional insult to SF aficionados - because the book the Daystrom researcher is holding in that scene happens to be Asimov's "I, Robot". TNG Picard would never have dismissed a brilliant mind - for his time - like Asimov as "Eh, I just don't get it". In fact, to put these words, about this work, in the mouth of Picard portrays him as somewhat of a simpleton and just goes on to solidify the demolition of his character as carried out by this show. I remain highly sceptical of the show's ability to reverse this trend.
They have a literal Enterprise D holgram in the main Starfleet Building, you'd think the captain of a ship worthy of holographic representation in Starfleet's Headquarters would be quite well known.
Ok, tbh...I don’t know a single military person/hero by face either. We know him cause we watched a show about him. He doesn’t have to be known by civilians. Not even by personal. But fuck, he deserves the highest respect of those who do. Here is a guy, the Klingon empire would start wars for and at least a dozen of highly powerful beings owe their life to. He should have people offering him whole armadas. Even pretty low level wartime personal on ds9had such favors with people
Well, the next hologram was the faux Enterprise from DISCO so they probably aren't too familiar with their own history in much the same way the writers only watched "The Measure of a Man" and the last 20 minutes of Nemesis for their TNG research.
the guy on the entrance ws just the secretary for the building. minimum wage. answers the phone, signs people in, probably not very smart of its a second job that takes their mind off their main pursuit which is more burdensome, taken to pay the bills haha
I love how Picard seems to have zero clout, zero influence and no markers to call in from... Well, ANYONE. He's one of the most influential people of his time, saved entire planets, races and the federation so often that they should make that his job description, was portrayed as a consummate diplomat and accomplished officer that led thousands of brave men and women in uniform through-out his career and should be on first name basis with almost all of the movers and shakers in the federation, but because they couldn't afford the actors of the original cast (or they declined to appear in this trash fire) or wanted to introduce a plucky band of mostly female misfits, all of this suddenly doesn't seem to be canon anymore. He's getting snubbed, ignored, thrown out and apparently he conveniently forgot anyone who ever owed him any favours, respect or loyalty so that he's now reduced to literally scrounging help from trailer parks. This shit just makes zero sense.
Well said. It's like a desire to entirely ignore the past except when it's convenient for a plot point. Why even call it Star Trek if they're going to do that?
@TheGreaterGood80 Indeed, Can't have him outshine the rest of the cast. I mean, I get it. They don't want him to be too amazing in case he wants to stop appearing in season two or something, but there's a million ways they could have gone about it in a more respectful manner. I expect him to be milking lizard boobs soonish.
@Cyrus Wolfe you must not be working in today's corporate environment because that's EXACTKY what's going on. If you say something, you're a weak man or you're a woman hating sexist. The way they've done this is brilliant.
"But won't it be a problem making a strong character like Picard kowtow to every other character?" " No, it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience."
"Let's make a faithful adaptation of the iconic Start Trek Captain Picard." "Did you just say, let's make a tong of money from the fanbase and then give the script to a hack?" "Wha- n-no, I didn't say that at ALL." "You had at me money, now tell me more about this story." "Well...ok." Ryan George is a gem xD
Be careful what you wish for, having them bring old TNG characters out might be a bad idea as they might ruin them as they already have with Picard, Luke and Han
Luke got destroyed? Not at all. As a child I always pictured him drinking space cows and doing jack shit and being bitter and just fading out of existence for no fucking reason.
Star Trek: Money doesn’t exist in the future, we’ve moved beyond such baser drives. Also Star Trek: Central character is a rich landowner with a thriving business & a - probably underpaid - migrant workforce.
Remember DS9? It had two strong women protagonists that nevertheless were fully developed characters that had flaws and vulnerabilities. Remember VOY? Had three of those.
Kira was a cunt and Dax was flighty and annoying, but that's better than being STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER that is permanently condescending. Voyager female characters were the best.
"I never really cared for science fiction. I guess... I just didn't get it." "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to." My first thought is that I wish these crap writers would stop trying to validate their personal opinions by forcing our childhood heroes to utter them. My second thought is that if they really feel this way, why the hell are they writing this stuff? They're only ruining things. Nobody likes them. Why won't they just go away?!!
@Scion of Madness Yeah, no, he doesn't. A small joke means that I'd a direct reference to how the creators of the show don't care and hate us? Polish those tin foil hats more
@@Novarcharesk Oh fuck off you are obviously butt hurt about people shitting on the show because this is the second comment you replied to and I bet there will be more. The show is garbage.
My wife is Thai! I have enough of strong diverse females in my life, thank you very much. Made me coconut Ice cream yesterday, without an ice cream maker. STRONG...shes great, I'm lucky.
To be fair, James Bond is an undercover agent whose name would be kept secret and erased from all records. Picard, meanwhile, was a guy who saved the galaxy numerous times and saved Earth from the Borg, and was recently broadcast all over like you said.
I could have told you this show isn't gonna be about Picard. He gonna die and some granddaughter of his with the same last name is gonna take over this show... OR a female clone of him that's half Black, half Asian or Hispanic.
Nonono. That's not how 'progress' works. Some random girl who is not related to Picard in any way is going to wait for him to die, rock up to his vineyard and, when asked by an old lady passing by who she is, proudly proclaim that she is "Rey, Rey Picard". Because reasons. Thanks JJ...
Woke is Broke era: Star Trek Star Wars Terminator Ghost Busters James Bond Upcoming Marvel movies How many great franchises have to bomb before they remember they still have to make money? I guess next it'll be the female only cast of some Lord of the Rings and Fight Club remake. Go away entertainment!
Great review and points well made! I especially concur with your gripes regarding cast diversity. In that respect I really enjoyed The Expanse, that went to some lengths to develop multi-faceted characters, male and female. I'd be very interested in the drinkers' thoughts on that show!
If anything the second episode should be one of the best episodes in a first season since they get constructive feedback from the pilot and apply it to their original material. I guess they never had a good enough idea to go forward with this
Hmmm...reminds me of GoT season 8. “Lets produce less episodes for the season than we were going to and fill that season with more filler episodes than average!” CBS All Access: The Next Generation Game Plan.
You want a well-written, professional female character who is competent in her own right and respectful to her peers? Go watch ST TNG on NetFlix there are so many I cannot list all. Commander Shelby was one my favourites, she challenged Riker when he was being a wimp. (Best of Both Worlds) Commander Leiten. (Identity Crisis) Dr. Julianna O'Donnel/Tainer (Inheritance) Dr. Pulaski (Season 2) Dr. Selar (Schizoid Man) T'Pel/Selok (Data's Day) Alyssa Ogawa (reoccuring nurse) Sito Jaxa (First Duty and Lower Decks) (no particular order)
"BELIEVABILITY IS EVERTHING. IT IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF ANY STAR TREK STORY." (Roddenberry in "Writers/Directors Guide" of TNG. Yes, he used capital letters!!!)
@@Zuluknob There's a reason nobody likes that episode. Picard is the equivalent of making a series about the adventures of Dr. Crusher and her secret candle ghost who looked suspiciously like a bad romance novel cover painting.
Just because candle ghosts don’t exist here on earth doesn’t mean they don’t exist somewhere in the dark reaches of space. If anything it kind of absurd to imagine that in a universe so large that candle ghosts don’t exist anywhere
Jesus. This is brilliant. I wouldnt have this much fun watching the dam show. Keep it up Drinker! By the way, ur not an Alcoholic. Alocholic's go to meetings. Your a drunk. Drunks go to parties!
@Junius Argonon Oh dear goodness. We should all speak in grand, ye old english. Would that be more to thou taste? In the grand scheme of all things eternal, who utterly gives a fuck.
3:55 that's the rock where Kirk fought with that green lizard alien in one of the TOS episodes. It's been overused to death in many movies and series, such as the second Bill and Ted movie.
Sadly, "Strong female commander 2" is a childhood crush of mine: Kumiko from "Karate Kid Part 2". When I found that out, I almost drank myself into oblivion. I still haven't recovered.
"Abso-fuckin'-lutely you did! That's amazing! Who doesn't like kung-fu? I mean, it makes no sense whatsoever and is outright idiotic if you think about it for more than 2 seconds, but it's awesome right?" -Kurztman and Bad Robot, probably
"...Strong female character number 1 puts a call through to strong female character number 2... and strong female character number 2 brings operative commander number 2"... 5 stars!
Piccard should do an episode where he realizes everything is fucked up so goes back in time and does something to restaor the time line back to real Star Trek Next Generation!
or Q can apperns infront of him, snap is finger, making piccard "wake up" and while the screen cut to black, we see piccar cursed Q for a hell of a nigthmere xD
do people not remember how over the top cringy, worthy, pc, liberal, TNG was???? In comparison Picard is like a Nazi propaganda movie. I mean it's obviously not nazi propaganda - but it's waaaaaay less worthy liberal horseshit that TNG was at its worst.
That magic bullshit device for reconstructing molecule memories (or something) reminds me that once, Star Trek was a huge influence on actual science, since their ideas were pretty grounded, even tho fiction. People were dreaming about tech, that could actually be developed someday, because they were based on facts and logic. Now... we have magic bullshit nonsense stuff. Amazing.
To be fair, Alfred Pennyworth was former MI-6 or some branch of British Intelligence and often gets the best of Bruce/Batman. So Picard having a house keeper with a military background who kinna puts him in his place is not all that unusual.
In addition to all the problems mentioned, there is also the issue of Picard being the alleged protagonist, but not accomplishing anything. He pretty much just reacts to events beyond his control, and all attempts of his to take control end up in failure - at least so far. - Before the show even started, he tried to organize the Romulan rescue mission and failed. - He attempted to make the interview about the Supernova and avoid being ostracized on TV and failed. - He promised Dahj to help and protect her and failed spectacularly. - He tried to follow up some leads and mostly failed, only being saved by his housekeeper who happens to be a Romulan superspy. - He tried to get Starfleet's support and failed... - ... because he also completely failed to read the intentions of a character who obviously hates his guts. - ... which makes his failure worse because it sets him up to fail in his intention of saving Soji. If Picard is supposed to be the main character here (and if he isn't, then who is?) he better start having some agency soon.
I'm just tired of answering, "It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be" or, "I didn't hate it" when people ask me what I thought about a show or movie we've just watch. I don't remember the last time I answered, "that was FRIKEN' AWESOME"...maybe it was The Matrix.
Nothing stands alone anymore. It's all set-up, no pay-off. You ask people if they like a show and they say, "Yeah, I think the next season's gonna be big".
Never cared much for the Matrix, but, I see your point. I enjoyed Batman Begins and lol, the Joker over a decade later. I like Death of Stalin, Grand Budapest Hotel, Pontiac Moon, Baby Driver, Bladerunner 2049. I loved all those. I guess it's there, you just have to ignore popular. Ohh oh and Jojo Rabbit, What we do in the Shadows and Thor Ragnarok if going with Taika Waititi alones stuff thats all unique.but yeah today? Pffft. Leon the Proffessional in 1995 from Luc besson was pretty damned good, followed by his experimentally weird, but slamming Fifth Element.... Actually Cloverfield 2 "the bunker" because fuck me if I give a shit what it's called was great in places, but self edit the film. By pressing eject the moment the protagonist climbs the steps. The Lighthouse was just. Waa. It's a literal binary movie. Youre loving it or hate it. Pontiac Moon though. No one knows anything about it, but its an early 90's film that's a roadtrip movie
Because their fucking hacks who don't give a single fuck. Roddenberry, for all his faults, genuinely believed in Star trek and built the entire "world" in his head outside the federation star-ship enterprise. Clothing, ranks, attitudes, etc. all flowed from him and in the hands of better writers (and people who give a fuck) this was molded into cohesive world that made sense. He certainly was not always a positive influence, but he kept everyone in check. there is no longer a Roddenberry (and the various other producers who gave a shit) to keep everyone in line. its the same shit that happened in the last 4 seasons of GOT. realistic medevil clothing, and armor were thrown away for garish and impractical looking embroidered leather straps and armor that looks more appropriate at a gala than a battlefield.
When they try to design "futuristic" clothes in fiction they always looks ugly and ridiculous. There's a reason why fashion has become simpler and more practical in the last 300 years. I think The Hunger Games handled it nicely, they just used normal current clothes but added a few flashy details here and there. Except when they showed the clothes of the richest classes, which were suppossed to be over the top and decadent.
@@mveytia of course it was - to signal that things are different. Anyway.... try show in 1930s suit and coat 200 years earlier... or better, send modern soldier with all his gear and uniform to Napoleonic era.
@@AverageWagie Kind of like a runway fashion show, a red carpet Hollywood event, or even the crazy hats worn for the Kentucky Derby. For the most part the TNG crew wore standard uniforms that fit the time. Civilians were usually of alien kind from different worlds. The fashion of clothing of course would be radically different.
So, the Romulans have become the elves from Dragon Age? Pointy ear servants of a human lord in his mansion, complete with Irish accents are the City Elves. Is the Romulan guy with a sword a Dalish Romulan? I need more to drink now.
We know this series is set in the Kelvin Timeline because Romulus was destroyed, as stated in the JJ Abrams reboot movie and no other timeline has Romulus been destroyed, unless you count the Star Trek Online MMO timeline too. We also know its set in the same universe as Discovery, as we see a hologram of the Discovery version of the USS Enterprise (now 25% different) before we see the Enterprise D from TNG. So unless this is another new timeline, it is essentially the Kelvin Prime one. It could be called the Kurtzman timeline, since he says he doesn't like writing Canon and I'm sure that "I don't like Science Fiction, I don't understand it" line was written by Alex Kurtzman.
Really great character development. Just thoughtful and careful writing, splendid result and lifelike representation of a captain...hard to spot a movie or show with this nowadays to my knowledge
@@akkitty22 my favourite series on reflection. Totally fell in love with Jeffrey coombs who played multiple characters but was Weyoun, who served the founders. One of my favourite star trek villains. Plus the women in this series are nails, emotionally and physically but still have their flaws and challenges to overcome, and Dax has a great story albeit a tragic one.
Sooooo, is it ever going to bring up the fact that Noonien Soong was the only one able to crack the posatronic brain problem??? Not even Data was able to replicate Prof Soongs work.
Data was eager to help Maddox in his research and said he want provide him with all he can, most likely he provided him all about Lal. And after 20 years of additional research, he finally succeded...that doesn't seem odd to me.
Orville wasn't actually intended as a parody. Seth actually pitched it to Paramount as a Discovery pitch, but when he learned what they were doing, he retooled it and presented it to Fox. The first season was also partially rewritten as a comedy, but by the end of the season, he could drop that pretense.
@@jurgen_haan Same man! Orville has really gave me that buzz i had when i watched TNG as a curious highschool boy, i really hope we get season 3 soon i enjoy it too much!
How it could have gone: First few episodes: Dealing with the upheaval of having the Romulan Empire falling apart after Romulus is destroyed. Some Federation malcontents lobbying to not allow Romulan refugees into Federation territory, but the Federation reminding the malcontents that one of the primary aims of the Federation is humanitarian aid, no matter who needs it. Remainder of episodes: Lore was rebuilt by misguided android researchers, and then built an army of androids who went on to attack Mars. Lore and his army are then hunted by the TNG crew, who then discover that Section 31 are building weapons based on Borg technology, and looking into turning deactivated drones into subservient soldiers for use where there are to be no witnesses left to tell what happened. Section 31 were also the brains behind the malcontents, as 31 did not want another former enemy living within the Federation borders. Also it turns out that Lore had been rebuilt and reprogrammed by 31, and sent to destroy Mars, crippling Starfleet and then 31 would come to the 'rescue' by revealing their advanced Borg-based vessels, becoming the de facto military of the Federation. Unfortunately, that is when the Borg drones reactivate, their Section 31 programs being wiped and reverting to Borg directives. They take over the Section 31 ships and warp off, intent on starting a new Borg Collective.
meanwhile me: "the fuck what..... Television?... i mean actual un-ironic linear Television in the Star Trek universe... in the 24th fucking century?... WHY????"
When you need a magic mcguffin to move the story forward, the storytelling is coming out of extreme left field, they're bordering on magic and mysticism and Roddenberry is turning in his grave, every god and powerful being that Roddenberry introduced turned out to be backed by technology in some form or other, I'm begging the writers, go no further into woowoo.
And i thought TNG went off the deep end when the counselor took command of the ship whenever she would have litterally been the last person to do so. Everyone else was more qualified than Troy.
@@lokay7233 I was thinking of the movie and not that episode where Gerodie was sent to his death in the holodeck. That episode was good at least cause it delt with death
Actually, in "Disaster" episode O'Brien explained it - Troy had highest nominal rank (lieutnenant commander, outranking him formally) and longer tenure than Ro Laren. She was, by all rules, senior officer present. Also, it was made to show lesson how she both took up the mantle and the same, asked for suggestions from O'Brien, delegating and trusting her NCO. In later episodes, inspired by brief performance of dr Crusher at the bridge, she tried the command courses, just to be ready should another case demanded her to step up.
The main issue/blessing in this episode was that Picard isn't set in the Star Trek Universe but in the ST:D one instead due to the Discoprise being shown as hologram instead of the real NCC-1701 So TNG and co are save from this stuff and no matter what Picard does it'll be fine.
On the contrary. Whenever die-hard fans of the work get to make up their own stories they tend to be filled with fan service. Nicholas Meyer, director of Wrath of Khan, had not watched the first movie when he got to work. Didn't care about it. Result speaks for itself.
The exact moment I gave up on Discovery was the first time they showed "Klingons" -- and realized that the shows writers and producers gave zero fucks about what came before
Damned you Drinnnnkkkker!!! I just finished Redemption. Such a great book. Loved it. A cross between Stephen Leather and Tom Clancy. My only complaint. I could not get the Drinkers voice outta my head while reading it! Well done sir. Can’t wait to get to book 2 to see what Ryan Drake has in store for me. By the way. Disappointed in Picard. Had such high hopes as a life long fan of Star Trek but after DIS I shouldn’t be surprised.
I will never be able to take seriously a Star Trek series with this kind of cinematography. It instantly makes my brain go into "dumb action movie" mode.
They toned down the shaky cam since Discovery but they still do it and it's still annoying. Why can't we have brightly lit sets and clearly blocked scenes like on The Orville?
6:09 - I started Junior College and worked in Student Services and started just before class registration. I was put on the door and directed to not let anybody in. So I didn't, including The Dean Of The School when he showed up. My boss was mightily apologetic until The Dean said: "Oh, no - he was very polite but firm. I don't think I want anybody else watching the door."
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Drinker! Been trying to catch your attention! I'm British army veteran writing some memoirs and a big fan of your style, I wanted to ask you a few questions on writing if you don't mind, as in how you approach certain areas etc. Can you DM me? My Instagram is marqohpolo or twitter is vkm1919. Great vids 💪🏻💪🏻
Never fuckin pissed myself laughing so much mwahahahahaha
There's no cursing in Star Trek. Remember Spock and Kirk trying to learn cursing when they were in 20th century San Francisco? This show is not Star Trek, it's just angry stupid corporate SJW shit. Roddenberry is turning in his grave.
Nobody. You racist fuck
Your idea sounds awesome, you had me at sisko
We live in a nihilistic existance when watching reviewers rip shows to shreds is far more entertaining then watching the actual shows
It's not quite 'Nihilistic" per se though, because the end-goal is the (hopeful) improvement in the shows & the (again, hopeful) restoration of quality to these franchises, back to the formerly high levels we once enjoyed at one time. If it were true "Nihilism," then it would consist of holding the older versions of these franchises in the same low regard as the new, but that is not the case.
Shows creators just have to step it up then!
It's always been fun. The old TV show "Siskel and Ebert" used to tear apart bad movies all the time.
I also get a fair bit of nostalgia of that which I held in higher regard...I used to love Start Trek TNG and Star Wars in general...I held it through The Phantom Menace, but that adult Anakin actor killed for me. I watched some Deep Space 9 but didn't like Voyager...
@@steelshepherd6843 Deep Space 9 was my favourite Trek series, but that was probably the last time I really cared about Star Trek, sadly.
Why watch the show, when I can just watch the Drinker review it?
precisely
or RLM review it,i havent watch the rise of skywalker because i dont want to spoil the plinkett review of the movie
Yes indeed
Drinker's reviews are more entertaining anyway...
that's the only benefits of the series existence.
Just because a character is “strong “ doesn’t make them interesting.
Doesn't make them believable either.
It does demonstrate something about the writers, though: "sheer fucking hubris."
onions can strong. doesn't mean I want to watch a movie about them
@@Youtuube304s uhm it didn't tho?
Anthony Guidas
Agreed.
A character has to have flaws and weaknesses to overcome to make them more real, relatable, and interesting.
I guess the agenda-whore-writers missed that day in writing class.
This seems like a good show but it needs more women of color. I was quite disappointed that a woman of color was not cast as Picard.
lol
Haha almost got me not gonna lie
The sad part is that I can imagine that being an unironic complaint
I'm quite offended that the women of "colour" aren't "coloured" enough!!! lol
Trixster Million
Casting Picard as an old, white male just because that character had, had a stellar and accomplished career with Starfleet, is a clear indication of the systemic racism that exists in today's entertainment industry and the white-mail privilege that needs to be expunged from that business. The new Dr. Who has definitively shown how white-male lead characters should be replaced by females and just how much better the series will be for it.
*Starfleet:* In disarray, unprepared, and not willing to listen.
*Also Starfleet:* Ran by strong, powerful women.
That's the difference between propoganda and a sincere message.
Its funny because this isn't the first time I've seen this happen in a sci-fi franchise. Halo already pretty much did the exact same thing with the Karen Travis novels. In their quest of female empowerment, as well as making things 'darker and grittier' they also show women to be completely incompotent with power.
@@Janx14 you mean like in real life?
@@laurentguyot3362 No. I'm all for equality and all that jaz. But I am against these stupid hamhanded attempts at 'empowerment' that ruin frachises with terrible writing.
@@Janx14 they never should've made Halsey into a Patsy. All of her work was backed by the UNSC. There's no reason for her to be a fugitive.
Laris's backstory: "I left the Tal Shiar because they were always after me lucky charms!"
The fact that it makes perfect sense for the Tal Shiar to have an agent next to a man they've been targeting for OVER 40 YEARS IN UNIVERSE is infuriating because it's either going to be ignored or used as the most obvious twist that anyone with a pulse can see coming.
Bruh!!!! LoL!
this actually made me laugh out loud
lmfao
And here I thought it was because she was magically delicious!!
I miss the days when entertainment wasn't exclusively hateful propaganda.
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rip on that
"Star Trek Discard"
"Make it blow"
This is going to be like how I watch the EFAP’s for Batwoman.
I’m not going to watch the actual show, but I am going to watch Drinker review each episode.
I have to admit, that's how I do it too. Har haar.
Repeating the dialogues in our minds in his voice can also come handy.
Yep... Me too
Aye. I'll raise a glass to that plan
And JLongbone's Batwoman vids.
When Kirk needed a ship and noone provided him one, he STEALS it with his badass crew. And, btw, we had several strong moments with Uhura back then.
That was a show done right.
And Sisko just built one... a badass one.
Janeway went even further, stole a ship AND a freaking time machine.
And his crew was over the hill. In Star Trek III, some ensign literally tells Uhura to her face that she's old.
Yes, let's retread what's been done before. No one could possible complain about ripping something off of another show, right?
Ok, and how do you know what Picard is gonna do instead?
I always maintained that kirk was vastly superior...then again, im not a homosexual.
I'm not someone who's bothered by cussing, in fact, probably do it myself far more often than one should. But there's something incredibly off-putting about hearing f-bombs in Star Trek.
I guess I just figured Trek was above that kind of thing, guess I was wrong.
Trek nouveau must edge much!
Yeah, I don't think it's possible to watch episode 2 and not be shocked by that f-bomb!
@@marklord7614 just from that one scene it seems like they threw it in there just because they could. Not because it was helpful to the dialogue or had any meaningful impact. That goes for the rest of this faux trek we've been getting.
Exactly, swearing is below the people of this time of the 24th century. Most youd hear is Hell or Damn, not the F word
On top of that, she's CinC of STARFLEET. Should have a wee bit more self-control and decorum.
Jeezus. This episode has more women than a gynecologist’s office.
most gynecologists are men but yeah, get your point.
@@xjamirakrystalx4764 the patients....
@@deadbatt9321 ok yes ☺
But less foof. Which is a drawback.
@Malcolm R Monaghan Don't be a dick
Episode one: An entire android brain can be reconstructed from a single molecule.
Episode two: An entire event can be reconstructed from a single molecule.
Episode three: It turns out this whole thing was just an ad for homeopathy.
@@Novarcharesk neuron still makes no sense..and not explaining how any are required is even fcking worse... stop defending this trash show
@@Novarcharesk If you're going to complain about people complaining at least get it right, it was positron.
No matter what it’s utterly retarded to be able to reconstruct from a tiny fragment of Data.
@@2bituser569 Depends. Look up the concept of holographic data recording and reconstruction. The theory is that if you have a fragment of a hologram, you can reconstruct the entire thing, although at a much lower fidelity. Considering that we don't know what a positronic neuron actually is, I am going to give this particular piece of technobabble a pass.
Amazing how a molecule can store all that information... but it would have to be a quantum filament that was 3 light-years long.
They should bring back in Kirk in episode 3 to help Picard locate his balls.
Especially if he channels a little bit of Denny Crane!
Lol
Not in that crazy alternate universe. Kirk's balls would fall off too. It's better to keep that white male icon in mothballs.
theyd probably have to go back in time again...nobodies doing that movie over... god... i wanna hear scotty saying there be balls here captain
@@narezul
Lol !
It's really bizarre to see characters in Star Trek curse. Especially considering Spock stated in IV: The Voyage Home that juvenile language was basically non-existent by the 23rd century. Oh wait I forgot, no one whose writing this show actually gives a shit about continuity.
"I mean, why would you want a bunch of highly trained, highly experienced Starfleet officers that you know you can trust and rely on? Oh, and, uh, Deanna Troi."
Troi: "Is that so? Go fix that leaking antimatter storage container. That's an order."
Troi was without a doubt one of the most annoying and superfluous characters in all Star Trek. She should be happy these soyboys weren't the main audience back in the day because she and her rack would have been out of a job.
Except in this timeline she would be strong, somehow more diverse, and have a trained pussy whipped housekeeper named Riker.
Hey, school counsellors are important
@@MaestroTJS Actually, given a chance to act not basing solely on her impressive rack, Marina Sirtis delivered quite well ("The Face of The Enemy") and she puts all her heart into conventions. Her character was badly started, poorly thought out and poorly led, but she really did best what was possible, given thin and short end of stick handled to her.
The "I never really cared for science fiction" line isn't a cheap laugh. It's the combined middle fingers of the show's writers and producers, directed at all viewers of a science fiction series foolishly looking for more than contrived, manipulative, unsubtle, overly politicized character drama with some magical bullshit flying around in the background.
Science fiction is often science future. That's what was scary about that comment. That really pissed me off.
I'll be honest. It hurt a little bit that he said that. It's like being told everything you believed in was all a complete lie. Why do they hate us so much?
"To be honest, I never really cared for science. Fictional, or otherwise." - Jean Luc Lannister
Technically, it's not *untrue*.
Picard fucked hard with noir pulps (see "The Big Goodbye"), but the way he talks about it makes ZERO SENSE.
@@USSMariner
Well, it's particularly aggravating - and that is the reason why I think the whole piece of dialogue is an intentional insult to SF aficionados - because the book the Daystrom researcher is holding in that scene happens to be Asimov's "I, Robot".
TNG Picard would never have dismissed a brilliant mind - for his time - like Asimov as "Eh, I just don't get it". In fact, to put these words, about this work, in the mouth of Picard portrays him as somewhat of a simpleton and just goes on to solidify the demolition of his character as carried out by this show.
I remain highly sceptical of the show's ability to reverse this trend.
They have a literal Enterprise D holgram in the main Starfleet Building, you'd think the captain of a ship worthy of holographic representation in Starfleet's Headquarters would be quite well known.
Ok, tbh...I don’t know a single military person/hero by face either.
We know him cause we watched a show about him.
He doesn’t have to be known by civilians. Not even by personal. But fuck, he deserves the highest respect of those who do. Here is a guy, the Klingon empire would start wars for and at least a dozen of highly powerful beings owe their life to.
He should have people offering him whole armadas. Even pretty low level wartime personal on ds9had such favors with people
Also... 1701 to 1701 D only. No ABCE... Ask yourself... What museum or historic display would do that
@@squattingheads SHEER. FUCKING. HUBRIS!
Well, the next hologram was the faux Enterprise from DISCO so they probably aren't too familiar with their own history in much the same way the writers only watched "The Measure of a Man" and the last 20 minutes of Nemesis for their TNG research.
the guy on the entrance ws just the secretary for the building. minimum wage. answers the phone, signs people in, probably not very smart of its a second job that takes their mind off their main pursuit which is more burdensome, taken to pay the bills haha
Sooooo... 90% of the cast is female aside from Picard, then?
Is... Is this a harem anime with an octogenarian protagonist?
I think one already exist
Bruh
And most seem like the bad guys, er girls, oh hell, the villains.
I'm hoping this entire series is just Q messing with Picard. Or maybe, this is Q messing with us...
Be the only way to save this hot mess..
Let’s hope it’s Q
LgbtQ, says it all
Or...someone is messing with Q? Another omnipotent being messing with Q...hmm.
@@MrGchiasson No need for that, the Q are messing with each other often enough.
I love how Picard seems to have zero clout, zero influence and no markers to call in from... Well, ANYONE. He's one of the most influential people of his time, saved entire planets, races and the federation so often that they should make that his job description, was portrayed as a consummate diplomat and accomplished officer that led thousands of brave men and women in uniform through-out his career and should be on first name basis with almost all of the movers and shakers in the federation, but because they couldn't afford the actors of the original cast (or they declined to appear in this trash fire) or wanted to introduce a plucky band of mostly female misfits, all of this suddenly doesn't seem to be canon anymore.
He's getting snubbed, ignored, thrown out and apparently he conveniently forgot anyone who ever owed him any favours, respect or loyalty so that he's now reduced to literally scrounging help from trailer parks.
This shit just makes zero sense.
@Cyrus Wolfe Yes, Cyrus. It doesn't help equality. Just pisses people off. (Men AND women,)
Well said. It's like a desire to entirely ignore the past except when it's convenient for a plot point. Why even call it Star Trek if they're going to do that?
@TheGreaterGood80 Indeed, Can't have him outshine the rest of the cast. I mean, I get it. They don't want him to be too amazing in case he wants to stop appearing in season two or something, but there's a million ways they could have gone about it in a more respectful manner.
I expect him to be milking lizard boobs soonish.
@Cyrus Wolfe you must not be working in today's corporate environment because that's EXACTKY what's going on. If you say something, you're a weak man or you're a woman hating sexist. The way they've done this is brilliant.
Feminists took over. His rep means nothing in the grim dark of the feminist future.
Pitch Meeting Guy: “Irish-Romulan hybrids are tight!”
Wow wow.... wow
"But won't it be a problem making a strong character like Picard kowtow to every other character?"
" No, it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience."
"I'm gonna have to ask you to get aaaalllll the way off my back about that."
@@ieatpeopleand Every other FEMALE character SMFH :(
"Let's make a faithful adaptation of the iconic Start Trek Captain Picard."
"Did you just say, let's make a tong of money from the fanbase and then give the script to a hack?"
"Wha- n-no, I didn't say that at ALL."
"You had at me money, now tell me more about this story."
"Well...ok."
Ryan George is a gem xD
I look forward to Hollywood dying out. Then we can get some actual quality movies and series again.
Agree.. it’s deserved to die..
SJW's crying over their preachy crap being cancelled: "They're dying."
Normal people wanting good movies, comics, and video games: "Let them die!"
I prefer how It is now, saves me more money than that time I switched to Geico.
It does in 2040...
Agree but a shitload of money will go to waste in the process of hollywood dying out of shitty movies
"turns out he's dying from uh.... a plot point."
Be careful what you wish for, having them bring old TNG characters out might be a bad idea as they might ruin them as they already have with Picard, Luke and Han
Luke got destroyed? Not at all. As a child I always pictured him drinking space cows and doing jack shit and being bitter and just fading out of existence for no fucking reason.
Let them destroy TNG characters all they want as long as they stay away from DS9 characters.
The only things that get ruined are the things you choose to watch. You were all warned. Venture forth at your own risk.
Soy Trek: The final series!
Where no Ma'am has gone before.
Starlie's Angels.
@@Bit01 ACTUALLY, all the Ma'am are there.
@@Bit01 where no genra has gone before, please be mindfull
...and another franchise ruined.
Star Trek: Money doesn’t exist in the future, we’ve moved beyond such baser drives.
Also Star Trek: Central character is a rich landowner with a thriving business & a - probably underpaid - migrant workforce.
And clearly “strong” is code for “dominant” while “weak” is code for “submissive” nowadays.
Remember DS9? It had two strong women protagonists that nevertheless were fully developed characters that had flaws and vulnerabilities. Remember VOY? Had three of those.
Jorge Vilanova Oh I remember. New Star Trek writers don't though.
Kira was a cunt and Dax was flighty and annoying, but that's better than being STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER that is permanently condescending. Voyager female characters were the best.
Janeway, B'elana, and.. uh.. Harry Kim?
@@NFS0038 They were flawed, but they had redeeming qualities. And their gender was secondary to good dialogue and drama.
@@MariaIsabellaZNN i think seven of nine was a brilliant character too (if you overlook her boobs'n'ass role)
"I never really cared for science fiction. I guess... I just didn't get it." "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
My first thought is that I wish these crap writers would stop trying to validate their personal opinions by forcing our childhood heroes to utter them. My second thought is that if they really feel this way, why the hell are they writing this stuff? They're only ruining things. Nobody likes them. Why won't they just go away?!!
A joke translated that to you? Jesus, see a shrink :P
@Scion of Madness Yeah, no, he doesn't. A small joke means that I'd a direct reference to how the creators of the show don't care and hate us? Polish those tin foil hats more
@Cyrus Wolfe I like the Trendster term thank you.
Star Wars is not science fiction.
@@Novarcharesk Oh fuck off you are obviously butt hurt about people shitting on the show because this is the second comment you replied to and I bet there will be more. The show is garbage.
My wife is Thai! I have enough of strong diverse females in my life, thank you very much.
Made me coconut Ice cream yesterday, without an ice cream maker. STRONG...shes great, I'm lucky.
To be fair, James Bond is an undercover agent whose name would be kept secret and erased from all records.
Picard, meanwhile, was a guy who saved the galaxy numerous times and saved Earth from the Borg, and was recently broadcast all over like you said.
The audience this is for, they might as well have shot it vertical and exclusively show it on instagram.
yaaaaas, qweeeen
I agree, while intrupting the show every 5-7 minutes with ads...
I could have told you this show isn't gonna be about Picard. He gonna die and some granddaughter of his with the same last name is gonna take over this show... OR a female clone of him that's half Black, half Asian or Hispanic.
Nonono. That's not how 'progress' works. Some random girl who is not related to Picard in any way is going to wait for him to die, rock up to his vineyard and, when asked by an old lady passing by who she is, proudly proclaim that she is "Rey, Rey Picard". Because reasons. Thanks JJ...
Don't forget the Mohammadans!
Doomcock predicted months ago that Picard would be killed off and the ship would be renamed USS Picard.
@@majestyk3337 USS Picard is on point
Or Rey will show up and declare her name is Picard.
Woke is Broke era:
Star Trek
Star Wars
Terminator
Ghost Busters
James Bond
Upcoming Marvel movies
How many great franchises have to bomb before they remember they still have to make money?
I guess next it'll be the female only cast of some Lord of the Rings and Fight Club remake. Go away entertainment!
I know you only mentioned movies, but let's not forget the worst crime, Dr Who.
actually, there is a female fight club reboot planned, called "chick fight". Google it, you won't be disappointed.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.refinery29.com/amp/en-us/2019/12/9004559/bella-thorne-chick-fight-club-with-women
They don't care if these franchises go broke. They just want to destroy.
Blade is next sadly
Great review and points well made! I especially concur with your gripes regarding cast diversity. In that respect I really enjoyed The Expanse, that went to some lengths to develop multi-faceted characters, male and female. I'd be very interested in the drinkers' thoughts on that show!
This was a filler episode, and if they need filler for the second episode then they probably have nothing for the rest of the season.
If anything the second episode should be one of the best episodes in a first season since they get constructive feedback from the pilot and apply it to their original material. I guess they never had a good enough idea to go forward with this
Hmmm...reminds me of GoT season 8. “Lets produce less episodes for the season than we were going to and fill that season with more filler episodes than average!” CBS All Access: The Next Generation Game Plan.
Agreed, but why make the second episode filler when the first felt like two episodes crammed into one? The pacing of this show is fucking bonkers.
#Mandalorian
Kinda scary when the second episode of a series is already a filler.
I sure do love how the left has completely destroyed everything that I held dear from my childhood
the left can't meme
they need to destroy everything we hold dear so there's space to insert their own warped culture. Marxism 101.
JRPGFan20000 oh they definitely want to pull the family dynamic apart too.
@JRPGFan20000 >implying the left hasn't gotten to them too
kids cant even play Army anymore.
Mcguffin engineering is a fast growing field, more people should be going into it. Today's scripts are in desperate need of them.
Is Kathleen Kennedy the one pulling the strings behind the scenes of this show's production??
Modern trek is dead to me. It’s just a whole bunch of political pandering that’s completely betrayed Gene Roddenberry’s vision of Star Trek.
It was never alive. It was a stillbirth. XD
@@KubusSc7 orville though
So,........the "stillborn-verse" it is.
You want a well-written, professional female character who is competent in her own right and respectful to her peers? Go watch ST TNG on NetFlix there are so many I cannot list all.
Commander Shelby was one my favourites, she challenged Riker when he was being a wimp. (Best of Both Worlds)
Commander Leiten. (Identity Crisis)
Dr. Julianna O'Donnel/Tainer (Inheritance)
Dr. Pulaski (Season 2)
Dr. Selar (Schizoid Man)
T'Pel/Selok (Data's Day)
Alyssa Ogawa (reoccuring nurse)
Sito Jaxa (First Duty and Lower Decks)
(no particular order)
@@UchihaYugi It's the closest thing we get to actual Star Trek.
"BELIEVABILITY IS EVERTHING. IT IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF ANY STAR TREK STORY." (Roddenberry in "Writers/Directors Guide" of TNG. Yes, he used capital letters!!!)
@@Zuluknob what episode was that?
@@Zuluknob Well it happened to me a few times now sooo...
@@Zuluknob There's a reason nobody likes that episode. Picard is the equivalent of making a series about the adventures of Dr. Crusher and her secret candle ghost who looked suspiciously like a bad romance novel cover painting.
Just because candle ghosts don’t exist here on earth doesn’t mean they don’t exist somewhere in the dark reaches of space. If anything it kind of absurd to imagine that in a universe so large that candle ghosts don’t exist anywhere
Yeah, like that was ever the fucking case.
Hit me with the nostalgia and fan service about picard's crew and how they will go in their last adventure
Teaming up with the other captains and going out in a blaze of glory sounds amazing! i'd watch that!
Jesus. This is brilliant. I wouldnt have this much fun watching the dam show.
Keep it up Drinker!
By the way, ur not an Alcoholic. Alocholic's go to meetings.
Your a drunk. Drunks go to parties!
Nail on the head, my friend. I LOVED this review because I hated this episode. I'll be back every week to party with Drinker!
@Junius Argonon Oh dear goodness. We should all speak in grand, ye old english. Would that be more to thou taste? In the grand scheme of all things eternal, who utterly gives a fuck.
you'd think Picard was cultivating grapes but no it's was soy all along.
The soyberries have cultivated greatly
Lmao
3:55 that's the rock where Kirk fought with that green lizard alien in one of the TOS episodes. It's been overused to death in many movies and series, such as the second Bill and Ted movie.
Sadly, "Strong female commander 2" is a childhood crush of mine: Kumiko from "Karate Kid Part 2". When I found that out, I almost drank myself into oblivion. I still haven't recovered.
"It wasn't the worst way to spend 45 mins of my life" - the most shining, highest praise you can possibly give anything these days
"why is she Irish?..." that was the same question I asked.....and did I just see a Vulcan ninja/samurai?
"Abso-fuckin'-lutely you did! That's amazing! Who doesn't like kung-fu? I mean, it makes no sense whatsoever and is outright idiotic if you think about it for more than 2 seconds, but it's awesome right?" -Kurztman and Bad Robot, probably
"...Strong female character number 1 puts a call through to strong female character number 2... and strong female character number 2 brings operative commander number 2"... 5 stars!
90 minutes of Picard show, still waiting for something "Stark Trek" to happen...
Take a shot for every "Strong Female" character, die of alcohol poisoning and give your descendants alcohol dependency for 3 generations down the line
You are weak it's not that much *collapses*
Piccard should do an episode where he realizes everything is fucked up so goes back in time and does something to restaor the time line back to real Star Trek Next Generation!
or Q can apperns infront of him, snap is finger, making piccard "wake up" and while the screen cut to black, we see piccar cursed Q for a hell of a nigthmere xD
@@poijnve3912 hahaha good one. Piccard be like "Aghhhh please make it stop Q, i do anythingggggg"
do people not remember how over the top cringy, worthy, pc, liberal, TNG was????
In comparison Picard is like a Nazi propaganda movie.
I mean it's obviously not nazi propaganda - but it's waaaaaay less worthy liberal horseshit that TNG was at its worst.
The admiral who looks like Streep is a character from TNG. She was a helmsman played by the same actress.
Really. They couldn't get Kate Mulgrew to come back as Janeway?
So that is why she looked vaguely familiar.
Always love your videos!! Just finished my drink watching it, time for another drink!!
That magic bullshit device for reconstructing molecule memories (or something) reminds me that once, Star Trek was a huge influence on actual science, since their ideas were pretty grounded, even tho fiction. People were dreaming about tech, that could actually be developed someday, because they were based on facts and logic.
Now... we have magic bullshit nonsense stuff. Amazing.
Star Trek has become Dr. Who. It’s not Science Fiction anymore. It’s just Fantasy in space.
Modern Star Trek is the American Dr. Who...and I never could get into Dr. Who.
Everytime Data laughs, I cry as I remember how good Star Trek used to be.
Brilliant! Everytime they say "synths" I keep thinking of an 80's Yamaha DX7.
To be fair, Alfred Pennyworth was former MI-6 or some branch of British Intelligence and often gets the best of Bruce/Batman. So Picard having a house keeper with a military background who kinna puts him in his place is not all that unusual.
In addition to all the problems mentioned, there is also the issue of Picard being the alleged protagonist, but not accomplishing anything. He pretty much just reacts to events beyond his control, and all attempts of his to take control end up in failure - at least so far.
- Before the show even started, he tried to organize the Romulan rescue mission and failed.
- He attempted to make the interview about the Supernova and avoid being ostracized on TV and failed.
- He promised Dahj to help and protect her and failed spectacularly.
- He tried to follow up some leads and mostly failed, only being saved by his housekeeper who happens to be a Romulan superspy.
- He tried to get Starfleet's support and failed...
- ... because he also completely failed to read the intentions of a character who obviously hates his guts.
- ... which makes his failure worse because it sets him up to fail in his intention of saving Soji.
If Picard is supposed to be the main character here (and if he isn't, then who is?) he better start having some agency soon.
He's an old white male. His job is to get kicked around by females.
I'm just tired of answering, "It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be" or, "I didn't hate it" when people ask me what I thought about a show or movie we've just watch. I don't remember the last time I answered, "that was FRIKEN' AWESOME"...maybe it was The Matrix.
Nothing stands alone anymore. It's all set-up, no pay-off.
You ask people if they like a show and they say, "Yeah, I think the next season's gonna be big".
Check out the expanse on amazon prime.... it's good sci-fi
Never cared much for the Matrix, but, I see your point. I enjoyed Batman Begins and lol, the Joker over a decade later. I like Death of Stalin, Grand Budapest Hotel, Pontiac Moon, Baby Driver, Bladerunner 2049. I loved all those. I guess it's there, you just have to ignore popular. Ohh oh and Jojo Rabbit, What we do in the Shadows and Thor Ragnarok if going with Taika Waititi alones stuff thats all unique.but yeah today? Pffft. Leon the Proffessional in 1995 from Luc besson was pretty damned good, followed by his experimentally weird, but slamming Fifth Element.... Actually Cloverfield 2 "the bunker" because fuck me if I give a shit what it's called was great in places, but self edit the film. By pressing eject the moment the protagonist climbs the steps. The Lighthouse was just. Waa. It's a literal binary movie. Youre loving it or hate it. Pontiac Moon though. No one knows anything about it, but its an early 90's film that's a roadtrip movie
Team up with Janeway and Sisko... excellent idea mate!
Wow, a swear-laden strong female character being condescending toward a man. How original these days. SMH.
Why is everyone wearing modern day plain clothes? Cardigans, button up shirts? TNG never had clothes that looked like ours.
Because their fucking hacks who don't give a single fuck. Roddenberry, for all his faults, genuinely believed in Star trek and built the entire "world" in his head outside the federation star-ship enterprise. Clothing, ranks, attitudes, etc. all flowed from him and in the hands of better writers (and people who give a fuck) this was molded into cohesive world that made sense. He certainly was not always a positive influence, but he kept everyone in check. there is no longer a Roddenberry (and the various other producers who gave a shit) to keep everyone in line.
its the same shit that happened in the last 4 seasons of GOT. realistic medevil clothing, and armor were thrown away for garish and impractical looking embroidered leather straps and armor that looks more appropriate at a gala than a battlefield.
Have you watched TNG? Those clothes always looked ridiculous. I'm all for a future trend in the costume design, but the shit they wore was hilarious.
When they try to design "futuristic" clothes in fiction they always looks ugly and ridiculous. There's a reason why fashion has become simpler and more practical in the last 300 years. I think The Hunger Games handled it nicely, they just used normal current clothes but added a few flashy details here and there. Except when they showed the clothes of the richest classes, which were suppossed to be over the top and decadent.
@@mveytia of course it was - to signal that things are different. Anyway.... try show in 1930s suit and coat 200 years earlier... or better, send modern soldier with all his gear and uniform to Napoleonic era.
@@AverageWagie Kind of like a runway fashion show, a red carpet Hollywood event, or even the crazy hats worn for the Kentucky Derby. For the most part the TNG crew wore standard uniforms that fit the time. Civilians were usually of alien kind from different worlds. The fashion of clothing of course would be radically different.
So, the Romulans have become the elves from Dragon Age? Pointy ear servants of a human lord in his mansion, complete with Irish accents are the City Elves. Is the Romulan guy with a sword a Dalish Romulan? I need more to drink now.
We know this series is set in the Kelvin Timeline because Romulus was destroyed, as stated in the JJ Abrams reboot movie and no other timeline has Romulus been destroyed, unless you count the Star Trek Online MMO timeline too. We also know its set in the same universe as Discovery, as we see a hologram of the Discovery version of the USS Enterprise (now 25% different) before we see the Enterprise D from TNG. So unless this is another new timeline, it is essentially the Kelvin Prime one. It could be called the Kurtzman timeline, since he says he doesn't like writing Canon and I'm sure that "I don't like Science Fiction, I don't understand it" line was written by Alex Kurtzman.
I loved Sisko in deep space nine and thought he had one of the best character arks over the whole series, from the first episode to conclusion.
Really great character development. Just thoughtful and careful writing, splendid result and lifelike representation of a captain...hard to spot a movie or show with this nowadays to my knowledge
@@akkitty22 my favourite series on reflection. Totally fell in love with Jeffrey coombs who played multiple characters but was Weyoun, who served the founders. One of my favourite star trek villains. Plus the women in this series are nails, emotionally and physically but still have their flaws and challenges to overcome, and Dax has a great story albeit a tragic one.
“Over compensating for a problem that doesn’t exist.” Welcome to 2016-Current. Also why Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson still have jobs.
jesus christ, and also that's my girl and i every time we fight
Yeah RIM-jobs from white liberals.
@@jmlkhan5153 Get rid of her while you can and find a better one.
F-bombs in Star Trek. No thanks.
Proof of desperation, IMO
I'm surprised.
8:03 I've now lost track of all the "strong female" characters !
I know it’s not PC but how you framed min 8:46 had me ejecting my Jack Daniels thrue my nostrils! 🤣
Sooooo, is it ever going to bring up the fact that Noonien Soong was the only one able to crack the posatronic brain problem??? Not even Data was able to replicate Prof Soongs work.
Androids using a duotrinic brain have existed since TOS, but that would need the writers to have seen some episodes to have used them.
I brought that up a few times. But no one ever addressed it.
Data was eager to help Maddox in his research and said he want provide him with all he can, most likely he provided him all about Lal. And after 20 years of additional research, he finally succeded...that doesn't seem odd to me.
isn't it Singh? i'm genuinely confused
sounds almost like the only reason picard is in this show is to had a nostalgic connection with people.
90% of the current audience wouldnt watch it except for Picard.
Of course. It's another feminist trojan horse used to attack the franchise's male fanbase.
and to get kicked in the balls by strong female characters
one of your best reviews... and they're all more entertaining then the source material...
It was like watching an episode of 'The worm that turned' by The Two Ronnies.
Someone mentioned the Next Gen episode Angel One and the first thing I thought of was The Worm That Turned!
Seth Macfarlane's parody is more Star Trek, then this SJW Trek.
Maybe intended as a parody, but I'm actually enjoying it as a serious show, much like tng in the old days.
Orville wasn't actually intended as a parody.
Seth actually pitched it to Paramount as a Discovery pitch, but when he learned what they were doing, he retooled it and presented it to Fox.
The first season was also partially rewritten as a comedy, but by the end of the season, he could drop that pretense.
@@jurgen_haan Same man! Orville has really gave me that buzz i had when i watched TNG as a curious highschool boy, i really hope we get season 3 soon i enjoy it too much!
Star Trek Picard: The Feminist Generation
Is Kathleen Kennedy the one pulling the strings behind the scenes of this show's production??
They should have just named this show "Strong Female Character Showcase:"
How it could have gone:
First few episodes: Dealing with the upheaval of having the Romulan Empire falling apart after Romulus is destroyed. Some Federation malcontents lobbying to not allow Romulan refugees into Federation territory, but the Federation reminding the malcontents that one of the primary aims of the Federation is humanitarian aid, no matter who needs it.
Remainder of episodes: Lore was rebuilt by misguided android researchers, and then built an army of androids who went on to attack Mars.
Lore and his army are then hunted by the TNG crew, who then discover that Section 31 are building weapons based on Borg technology, and looking into turning deactivated drones into subservient soldiers for use where there are to be no witnesses left to tell what happened.
Section 31 were also the brains behind the malcontents, as 31 did not want another former enemy living within the Federation borders.
Also it turns out that Lore had been rebuilt and reprogrammed by 31, and sent to destroy Mars, crippling Starfleet and then 31 would come to the 'rescue' by revealing their advanced Borg-based vessels, becoming the de facto military of the Federation.
Unfortunately, that is when the Borg drones reactivate, their Section 31 programs being wiped and reverting to Borg directives. They take over the Section 31 ships and warp off, intent on starting a new Borg Collective.
So funny, when I was watching it I actually said out loud “hipster Spock’s brother!” And I don’t even watch STD.
Sybok?
"The walls have eyes"
Picard: WRONG. Molecules have eyes and memory.
Also.
Star Wars: They fly now?
Star Trek: They're Irish now?
"It's the premise cap'n. It cannae tek no more"
Until dey throw in tha kitchen sink!
"Meanwhile back at Chateau DUHHH' Picard.." 5:12
meanwhile me: "the fuck what..... Television?... i mean actual un-ironic linear Television in the Star Trek universe... in the 24th fucking century?... WHY????"
So diverse, much character.
When you need a magic mcguffin to move the story forward, the storytelling is coming out of extreme left field, they're bordering on magic and mysticism and Roddenberry is turning in his grave, every god and powerful being that Roddenberry introduced turned out to be backed by technology in some form or other, I'm begging the writers, go no further into woowoo.
Remember when Voyager came back with a weapon that one-shot the cubes?
Yeah, me neither
The sheer ****ing hubris of the writers!
If he got in Strong Female Commander's face and berated her, that would have redeemed the episode for me.
I'm pleased that you're doing the watching for me.
Thanks and cheers.
The brilliance of TNG and DS9 is seriously lacking in modern day Trek and it's because the people running it don't respect it.
Even VOY's "Threshold" is far superior than anything Jar Jar and Klutzman have done so far
Even TNG was sometimes preachy.But DS9...now that was a show to remember.
They also just don't understand it. Or can't.
And i thought TNG went off the deep end when the counselor took command of the ship whenever she would have litterally been the last person to do so. Everyone else was more qualified than Troy.
To be fair they build it up during the episode. Her doing the command training with riker and sending geordie to his death and all that
@@lokay7233 I was thinking of the movie and not that episode where Gerodie was sent to his death in the holodeck. That episode was good at least cause it delt with death
Actually, in "Disaster" episode O'Brien explained it - Troy had highest nominal rank (lieutnenant commander, outranking him formally) and longer tenure than Ro Laren. She was, by all rules, senior officer present. Also, it was made to show lesson how she both took up the mantle and the same, asked for suggestions from O'Brien, delegating and trusting her NCO. In later episodes, inspired by brief performance of dr Crusher at the bridge, she tried the command courses, just to be ready should another case demanded her to step up.
Strong female operative...strong female house keeper... strong female diverse character...they also come in different strong flavors as well
The main issue/blessing in this episode was that Picard isn't set in the Star Trek Universe but in the ST:D one instead due to the Discoprise being shown as hologram instead of the real NCC-1701
So TNG and co are save from this stuff and no matter what Picard does it'll be fine.
Why is it a requirement in making any film or programme to answer "No" when asked "Did you like the original?" these days?
On the contrary. Whenever die-hard fans of the work get to make up their own stories they tend to be filled with fan service. Nicholas Meyer, director of Wrath of Khan, had not watched the first movie when he got to work. Didn't care about it. Result speaks for itself.
6:27 THAT is the EXACT moment I was done with this train wreck. In fact I would say the same thing to the creators of this show.
The exact moment I gave up on Discovery was the first time they showed "Klingons" -- and realized that the shows writers and producers gave zero fucks about what came before
One of your best scripts mate! XD
Damned you Drinnnnkkkker!!! I just finished Redemption. Such a great book. Loved it. A cross between Stephen Leather and Tom Clancy. My only complaint. I could not get the Drinkers voice outta my head while reading it! Well done sir. Can’t wait to get to book 2 to see what Ryan Drake has in store for me.
By the way. Disappointed in Picard. Had such high hopes as a life long fan of Star Trek but after DIS I shouldn’t be surprised.
The best thing about Picard is Drinker's reviews
I will never be able to take seriously a Star Trek series with this kind of cinematography. It instantly makes my brain go into "dumb action movie" mode.
They toned down the shaky cam since Discovery but they still do it and it's still annoying. Why can't we have brightly lit sets and clearly blocked scenes like on The Orville?
Thankyou finally someone who gets it
oneraceonedestiny Way to miss the point...
@oneraceonedestiny looks like someone hasn't watched The Orville lol
6:09 - I started Junior College and worked in Student Services and started just before class registration. I was put on the door and directed to not let anybody in. So I didn't, including The Dean Of The School when he showed up. My boss was mightily apologetic until The Dean said: "Oh, no - he was very polite but firm. I don't think I want anybody else watching the door."