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Despite its obvious convolutions, I'll probably check out Tenet when it hit video. If for no other reason than it's so outside of the horse shit Hollywood's been crankin' out over the past decade.
I dunno, in the first half of the movie I had no idea what was going on... but then all of a sudden, in the second half of the movie.. i had absolutely 100% no idea what was going on
Well you aren't missing much... the more you understand, the more you realize that the concept of inverted objects is kind of unworkable in the real world.
@OG_Dacs yea we went to see the new mutants. It was a theater where you order food. Had to order it and go get it when it was ready, no more waiters. Could only drink at the bar. I missed the first 15 minutes. And beside they raised the prices so much. We went to a early show. Tickets, two burger and fries was over 75 bucks. Each movie ticket was 15 bucks. I'm done with movie theaters
The thing I love msot about Christopher Nolan is that he hasn't stopped trying new things and a improving upon the formula that has made him so much money. A lesser director would just make inception over and over again and get rich off of it but Nolan is constantly trying to be better. While certain things he tries don't pay off I still respect the effort.
His film, "Interstellar" for me, remains easily amongst my top 10 films of all time. I'm a sci-fi geek when it comes to film and the ponderous, philosophical combined with genuine scientific implications of that film absolutely astonished me after seeing that one! I just love both the "wormhole scene" and then finally the more famous, "Black hole" scene exist as some of the greatest cinematic, mindbogglingly beautiful scenes ever put to film.
Plus his willingness to use practical effects over massive CGI when practical effects are less expensive-the plane crash into the hanger, for example...
Memento is still one of my all time facourites. Inception and Interstellar are also excellent movies. I really enjoyed Tenet. I appreciate a good mind fuck.
Okay No lie, me and my family were watching this movie on a DVD and we reached a moment in the movie where an entire scene played over and over, and due to the premise of this movie, we thought that's what was supposed to happen, so each time it repeated we thought it was part of the movie. When we figured out the DVD player was rewinding the scene it pretty much added another hour onto it. So, that was a good way to spend Christmas Eve.
I consider this film to be close to as good as inception which is my favorite Nolan films. Nolan has made some great films and some films that are just ok but he hasn’t made a bad film yet, and that’s an achievement compared to other directors. One of my favorite directors.
@You Didn't See Graphite, Because It's Not There Denis Villeneuve - Basically you are saying I should see the new Dune film... I was not going to, BUT NOW I WILL! All adaptations will be a disappointment, as I read the book straight through in 3 days W/O sleeping... IMHO
It's insane how calm and accepting of the 'Reverse Entropy" The Protagonist is. he is just like 'Okay, I get it, no big deal". really, I would have like a million questions.
@@tf2scoutpunch175 sure, if you're actually curious. For example: In quantum vacuum fluctuations two virtual particles appear spontaneously. Lets say its an electron with spin +1/2, negative charge and regular matter. The partner particle will be a positron, an electrons antiparticle. That Positron will have negative energy, positive charge and -1/2 spin. Their properties cancel each other out. in this case you can assume (according to CPT symmetry) that the positron isn't actually an anti particle with positive charge and -1/2 spin but rather the regular electron traveling back in time. Due to the time reversal the spin goes from +1/2 to -1/2, the properties reverse from negative to positive charge. (negative and positive energy are negligible here because they don't have anything to do with reverse entropy and only serve to keep the energy sum at 0 to not violate thermodynamics) This is only one example. But the fact that positrons, and any anti particle for that matter, is the regular particle with reversed entropy has been well studied. However this only works in theory from a mathematical standpoint. We may never know wether it is actually traveling back in time. However, from what we know it is very well possible. Here is an article for more info: phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Modern_Physics/Supplemental_Modules_(Modern_Physics)/Antimatter If you're curious, quantum fluctuations are a very fascinating phenomenon worth looking up. I gave you the short version. But he appearance of energy out of nothing does not violate thermodynamics. crazy stuff
Tenet's biggest lesson is that please give Nolan, a Bond movie to direct. That way, he can't over-complicate the plot beyond an acceptable limit and still bring the best of his directorial tools to the game.
Bond movies are embarrassing relics from a bygone era. Tenet was Nolan's big dumb action movie and it was smarter than every other big dumb action movie combined.
@@The_ScapeGoat yeah I keep asking myself to pretend it's a Michael Bay movie, and hey, it's not so bad! I think we're being too harsh on Nolan's take on the action genre, however it tries so hard to convince you it's intellectually captivating film-watching experience, when it's almost impossible to see it that way on the first watch. The set-pieces alone are inventive and original. Definitely a good take on a Mission: Impossible film, essentially what it is.
Actually I want to give Nolan something like a black comedy, where two aging brothers played by Ron Pearlman and Tom Waits have to bury their dad/scatter his ashes. Ones a waster bum, the other the owner of a blues bar on the east coast and hate each other. They have to go on a road trip across america to see all the places he wanted before he died and a way to get them to reconsile. Its about generations and rebels realising time moves without them and they meet a woman Chloe Moretz that is becoming them. But its complex in timelines and a web of set ups over decades that pay off in this trip. Waits, the waster has a studebaker cliche and Pearlman quips "what are you a fucking muppet? I aint driving in that"
Nolan makes movies that sometimes work like a miracle and other times they simply don't. One thing you can credit him though is that he never produces unimaginative boring crap. In a day and age when movies tend to be safe, bland and unchallenging, Nolan is a breath of desperately needed fresh air. Whether his new movies succeed in their goal or not, they are something to look forward to and that today is a big win.
While I agree that it's nice that he likes to think outside the box, I don't think he does it from a storytelling standpoint. He has a visual or conceptual "outside the box" idea, and then shoehorns a story into it. It doesn't work for me.
Nolan's habit of making his movies as over-complicated as possible finally bit him in the ass with Tenet but I get what you are saying, he should have made this movie like he made Inception, that one is pretty easy to understand but this one is so confusing.
"But it stands out as more of an impressive technical achievment rather than a gripping story that you care about" perfectly sums up my feelings about Nolan films
some of his movies have really engaging plots and they unravel those plots in an interesting and fun way like memento, inception, the prestige and the dark knight (pretty straight forward but the joker plan comes along slowly as the movie goes)
For his worst movies, yeah that's the case. The movies that I think did a good job at balancing intriguing plot and engaging storytelling are Memento, Inception, Interstellar, and the first two Dark Knight movies.
Nail on the head. Inception had a simple tale, made unnecessarily complicated, Too many guys were going out of their way to prove their "intelligence" by shouting how much they liked the film. But emperor Nolan often really has no clothes on. It's all vanity. I appreciate what he's trying but the novelty has worn off long ago. I still love Memento. There's something like an Occam's razor to story telling, where maintaining simplicity in it's design often is a virtue. I never feel like having to remember 10 different names or 20 different timelines.
I'm actually really happy to hear he was a highlight of this movie as far as acting and character goes, especially after I noticed he was in the movie while watching the review.
@@pennedarts A movie script which took the director about 2 years to invent and another 5 years or so to figure out, even though it was stolen from a television episode which aired over 20 years ago. That sounds about right for Hollywood's finest.
What I like about Nolan is that he trusts the audience to figure things out instead of a typical Hollywood thriller that walks you through step by step what is happening or at least makes the outcome obvious and clichéd. Tenet is indeed a huge technical achievment but is lacking in emotional impact that steals from the films potential. Nolan's next film about Oppenhiemmer will I hope be more balanced...
"For me, the standout was Robert Pattinson, who manages to switch easily between quirky, eccentric scientist, and kick ass, no nonsense spy with a bit of suave British charm thrown in for good measure. He always gives the impression that he knows more than he's letting on, and he's pretty fun to watch." -- ya got that right. He is the plot, really, and worth watching the movie for. He never disappoints.
the reason why he of all characters seems the most confident and in control is because.... he is. Some people don't agree with the whole Neil is just older Max theory, but if you follow it, it makes logical sense that he would be doing the most time travel through inverting himself, and as such, is more knowledgeable of all events in the movie than every other character. In essence, it would make him the true protagonist as the current protagonist set him on a path to help him for just this reason. After writing this comment, I realize now that talking about this movie results in a lot of circular logic that more or less just says "it happened because it happened" but in a way, thats kind of the movie's charm.
He was too confident for a black person in Russia I'm sure sure or something like that. If you are trully a minority , you shouldn't bug a majority in any way and try to hide confidence or your behaviour might get very problematic and cause stereotypical hate, like racism. Western modern left really stupid to try to use minorities' validity , all they do is breed stereotypical hate on both sides, divide for power and to conquer non believers. Maybe he just had the gun exposing him, self defence is almost non existent concept ( try to prove it's self defence, most likely you'll get in jail anyways) in any not US country.
@EramSemperRecta reminds me of the Frankenstein Chronicles series on Amazon, where a black actor is cast into a white role, and nobody in Victorian England bats an eye or even acknowledges his race. It's like a weird form of blackface, somehow pretending that racism never existed.
@@saftpackerl because dafoe character is more interesting, I mean hes basically a less crazy joker with an obsession with the light. Pattinson make a god damn good performance especially the accent.
@@HOLLASOUNDS That's not so hard. Once you have the knowledge and one machine in the future, you can simply send the INFORMATION on how to build one back, then have someone else build it in the past. That's pretty much how Andrei built his empire: With some information and gold from the future.
@@dominicpascal5512 That's a paradox, and something I used to think about long before this film come out. I get sent information on how to build a time machine from the future the person got the information on how to build the time machine because they already have the information because the guy built the time machine in the past. Long story short Nobody actually ever designed the time machine it just exists in a loop.
@@isaackmojica8302 yep, thought that too at the first watch. Seriously, give the movie another go, the pacing seems MUCH more forgiving the second time
@@purplespark8 actually, it was difficult. Not just the concept of reverse entropy on paper, which in itself is beyond the simple "its just goes in reverse" definition, but the fact that when shooting scenes with reversed time the filmmakers had to stage two moving sections of one scene that would have to go into the opposite direction of each other. It's not just reversing the tape back. People and props had to move backwards in real time.
@@abhinavannam9045 Actually even if you make sense of inversion while watching it first time, you should watch it second time. Movie gives you something extra second time, especially the connection between Protagonist and Pattinson's character becomes completely different and interesting.
Brad Jones had a pretty quotable review of this movie. "Imagine you're watching The Matrix, and the opening scene is the ledge scene, then 5 minutes in we have the pill scene, 15 minutes in is the lobby shootout, then an hour in we've skipped to The Matrix Reloaded and are watching the highway chase." Also "maybe it makes sense, maybe it doesn't. To hell if I know, don't ask me, I only saw the movie."
it is like watching the end of evangelion, i mean jesus christ, why do people like to confuse themselves just to pretend they're smart, movies shouldn't be unnecessarily convoluted
@@Kev7035 No no no, don't get made at other people. You and i both know the problem, the only difference being i'm willing to admit it. We're too dumb for Tenet. That's perfectly fine btw.
You know Tenet made me think a lot about The Matrix...If The Matrix hadn’t so expertly and clearly defined the rules of it’s world. That to me is the biggest weakness of Tenet. Also, remember how Tenet said that when you invert you have to provide your own oxygen and yet Kat had no oxygen mask when she went back on the boat. Things like that take me out of the film.
In Tenet, after the big military battle and the death of Sator, the Protagonist and Neil have a conversation where it dawns on the Protagonist that he is the architect and Neil is his greatest friend. It is clearly meant to be a moving scene, given the tears streaming down the Protagonist's face. However, it left me completely blank and confused. Christopher Nolan must have buried himself in this theoretical headfuck world for too long and lost the perspective of the audience, or perhaps he just wanted to write a more headfucky movie than Primer.
Tenet is a prime example of how, no matter how smart and talented you are, no matter how much effort and skill you put into the story and execution, there is no way for time travel to make logical sense. There will always be contradictions, paradoxes, and things you just have to hand-wave away.
I've seen a lot of time travelling stories told well. This was a piece of shit because Nolan couldn't be bothered to explain anything well or get his audience to emotionally invest it anything
Time Travel is and always will be a concept that should be left to books, they have the time and ability to actually try to explain a theory. Not even a 3 hour movie can get the world building down, and if it tried there'd be no story. Basically, if a movie is gonna play with time travel, just deduct a point or two from its score and move on. It's never going to make sense.
It made sense in Interstellar where the dialogue barely mattered yet the music drove the emotions of many scenes. In Tenet it serves no purpose and only damages the film.
"prioritizing grandiose intellectual concepts at the expense of crafting an emotionally satisfying narrative with strong and interesting characters" is the most eloquent and comprehensive description of Christopher Nolan I've ever heard
@MajimasMajimemes seen memento? Dark knight? Insomnia? Overrated but still good interstellar? He's a very good and thought provoking film maker, I didn't like tenet from my first viewing, but I didn't get anything either.
W-Tek He’s a good actor though, and would be a good choice. I’m going to guess you don’t actually have a reason for disliking him other than “twilight bad.”
I'm might give it another shot on home release if there is subtitles because I feel like I missed half of the movie with the sound so muffled. But I doubt it will make the characters or story any more interesting.
Technically still Inception lol. The whole cast is based off a production. Most notably, Cobb is the “director” of the whole operation, and who plays Cobb?
@@matthewcastillo310 Cobb even dresses like Nolan. The most interesting thing is in Inception, Cobb is asked to insert a suggestion in to Cillian Murphy's mind. Do you recall the controversy around Sandy Hook appearing in the 2nd Batman movie? Not long after, a school shooting took place in a place called, wait for it, Sandy Hook. I found it odd and I am not one to automatically believe every conspiracy hypothesis I hear. There were many interenet voices suggesting Sandy Hook appearing in one of the most lucrative movies ever was no coinsidence. To then have a similar scenario turn up in Nolan's next film was very curious indeed.
One of the biggest issues with Nolan is that he creates these visually incredible films with cool effects and concepts, but sometimes forgets to put likable, fleshed out characters into the plot.
Totally agree which is why I still think Insomnia is one of his best movies, there are no big, clever plot devices, concepts or macguffins, just a great psychological study of two broken characters in an extreme environment - sometimes less is more!
The Prestige was the pinnacle of Nolan for me, it had a great story, lots of layers/twinned elements, it was clever, well acted, challenging to the watcher without becoming impenetrable, a fabulous, cinegenius film.
Realy? A magician that uses instantaneous cloning in the late 19th century and creates a new version of himself in every performance he makes thus having to kill his extra copies, all out of spite because another magician has a trick he cannot reverse-engineer, THAT's Nolan's pinnacle for you? ROFL
@@lm7_gio calling it the pinnacle of Nolan was misguided but the movie was pretty good, describing it in a negative way won't change that. Jonathan Nolan writes some pretty good stuff
@@lm7_gioYou literally do not know what happened in a movie that you're trashing. "The Prestige" act is the movie itself and you are the audience that has been fooled.
No hes not. Hes not underrated. The world knows hes awesome and a superb performer. That knowledge is just suppressed by the social adjendas and PC culture, antifa, nazi ass, adjenda pushing jobless pieces of shit of today who have forced an opinion that if your white, make great quality films, & are talented then your nothing but the oppressor of those who can't tie thier shoes or find their way home without a damn smart phone. Who cares about how talented one person is. Its all about how mediocre everyone else is. They deserve Oscar's just for existing. Just ask them. They'll flat out tell you they do.
I've been a huge fan since Good Time, I think hes made the exact right moves since twilight to become a well respected actor. I'm surprised he took Batman though, I would think he would be leery of these tent pole franchise pictures. High risk, high reward I guess. I'm worried the Nolan films are going to be the template, the trailer seems very reminiscent of those films. I'd like to see some risks taken. I hated that the second two films focused so much on him retiring - my head canon Batman is kind of nuts, and obsessed, would never consider stopping
@@keithmichael112 That's the Batman in most fan's headcanon. There are certain superheroes who never retire, never truly get a Hollywood happy ending. It just goes against the character too much. As such It's really annoying when writers/producers/directors don't realize this and try to force some BS ending to the character. Batman is one and Captain America is another. For Cap his sense of duty will always compel him to be a hero, plus he's a man out of time, whoever he may have wanted to be and the life he may have once thought of having all vanished when he fell into the sea. As for Batman well Bruce Wayne is the costume Batman wears in the daytime, there's no person there to ever actually have a normal life so any notion of him not being Batman is absurd.
@@thefilthyrhombus3856 it's kind of a catch 22, a reasonable person would consider that they should stop dressing like a bat and fighting crime, maybe enjoy some nice french restaurants, but they also wouldn't have started in the first place.
@@joaquimpereira4995 Whatt about that scene where the protagonist in the freeport is trying to prevent himself from taking off the mask? They were fighting, which is a form of touching. So do you only get annihilated if you know its yourself you touched? Theres a lot of unanswered rules.
This review is absolutely perfect. I left the theater thinking Nolan is basically Kojima and needs someone to reign him in. So much spectacle and high concept sci-fi, but not emotion. I feel nothing for any of the characters.
And this is the problem with Nolan in general.His movies are mostly plot/concept driven and not so character driven,or even a balanced combination of both.His best character so far is Ledger's Joker and,well,he's crearly an antagonist,elevated by the latter's great performance.
@@reneelasswell3734 Totally agree. The only connection I felt to the characters was just the baseline "hey these are the good guys, I'd rather not see them die, I suppose"
@@reneelasswell3734 You weren't supposed to get attached to the characters, their names are barely mentioned. You missed the point of the film entirely.
Nolan Films (Increasingly): Cold, unengaging characters mumbling meaningfully, while a single clever premise is repeated ad nauseum with increasingly bombastic music and frenzied action... to disguise the cold unengaging characters at the centre of it all
This is simply what happens when a director as genius as Nolan is, gets too much control (re Army of the Dead, The Phantom Menace etc). I loved hearing recently that Tarantino cut his favorite scene from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Not only was it his and Leo (DeCaprio)'s favorite scene, he also believed that Julia Butters (the young girl actor from the set) would win an Oscar. Good to see that one of the best directors around is willing to let other people tell him no, and he to an extent will listen. I think Nolan could do with the same.
Ah, so the sound editing is like every Christopher Nolan film since Inception character one: 'psss pss psst psst psst' character two: 'fvvt tvvf fftv vvt pvv' *EXPLOSION* ; *LOUDER EXPLOSION*
Good in cinemas but when I'm watching it on the TV, I'm constantly adjusting the volume. Interstellar's my favorite but God damn just give my volume-changing thumbs a rest.
I remember seeing Good Time and thinking he was great. Then The Lighthouse convinced me that he's a superb actor. I'm glad he's finally getting the recognition he deserves.
I loved the movie the first time I watched it, second time I saw some cool details I missed but the thing about this movie is that you cant think about the concept too much because even at its core its confusing, but due to it being shot form different peoples perspectives and in different times its becomes impossible to follow or comprehend, even if you start writing the events down in a notebook (trust me). But the overall dynamic of this movie was incredible to me, the ending was perfectly tense and thrilling and the ending ending was awesome with Pattisons revelation and the ending ending ending was cool with that Indian arms dealer being shot.
I went into this movie really wanting to enjoy it. I'm not one of those people that thinks that everything Nolan touches turns to gold, but I have very much enjoyed some of his past movies, such as Memento, The Prestige, Inception, and even Interstellar (even though I acknowledge that it has some story flaws). The thing is, each one of those films has a central character that I came to care about. I cared about the motivations for the characters that Guy Pearce, Hugh Jackman, Leonardo Dicaprio, and Matthew McConaughey played in those films. In this film, it felt to me that the characters are essentially stand-ins for concepts, even more so than in some of Nolan past films, and ultimately I ended up feeling kind of lukewarm about this film when it was over. There were definitely some amazing moments, and I wouldn't say that I completely disliked it, but I walked away feeling that it is unlikely that I'll have the burning desire to watch it again, despite the fact that repeat viewings would probably be interesting on an intellectual level. Also, I agree with this review in that the sound mixing is just incredibly bad for a big-budget film. There were indeed moments where I had trouble understanding what was being said, and I work on producing music/audio on regular basis so, I use my ears critically often and yet, there were times when the dialogue in this film was almost inaudible to me.
I have to say it just may be the cinemas that people are watching from. The only time I couldn't understand the dialog was when protagonist was listening through the window as the unboxed the gold.
@@GeryonM I was dead center. 550 seat Dolby avx. Grew up in a Hifi/home theatre store and spent 15 years as a filmmaker and did plenty of hours in full mixing suites. I couldn't follow the dialogue in at least 20 places in the film. Nolan has an issue here. He likes obscuring what people are saying with the belief that the film is visual and that the necessary pieces to carry the story as there and that the audience can put 2 and 2 together. Sometimes, he's wrong.
Exactly. Making a film that is heavily reliant on understanding its plot and different concepts and theories about time, only to make it difficult to audibly hear dialouge. Brilliant.
I love a good mind-fuck movie, and Nolan is the master. To this day I still think his best work is The Prestige. It's the Nolan film I watch the most. Even though you got clues to the plot throughout the movie, it still felt surprising and satisfying when it was revealed.
Agreed... and in this I was just waiting for 'Protagonist' to be told what the audience already knew from the beginning. I think the main issue with the attempted twist, was the lack of misdirection. If they had revealed a new character to be the attacker in the freeport, or the leader of the 'timecops' - it would have felt unearned and frustrating. But leaving no other options just left the audience waiting... Waiting sucks.
This movie felt like a mind fuck at the beginning, but as soon as I started noticing the similarities to Primer (which I've seen probably a dozen times to sort it all out) I could pay attention to the few things that were different and it was way easier to make sense of. Aside from the phone conversations between forward and inverse, fuck that part.
@@mahbubulhaque735 yeah, the way they travel backwards is different, but the mechanism of the time travel is similar, can only go back as far as a fixed point as you need to set time in the correct orientation. But also the multiple versions of yourself already on their pre-destined routes. The more I think about the movie though, the more the flaws there really bother me for a guy that claimed to have thought it out for years.
@@JayFlowie I don't think "You can go far as a certain point" is quite right. In Primer you have to be in the box for 6 hours to travel back. Thus you make a new version of yourself. But, that's how every time travel movie works. Prisoners of Azkaban also did that before Primer (Though it's a fantasy). In Tenet you don't have to be in the turnstile to travel back. Turnstile is something like a time inversion door. When you enter the turnstile you only create an inverted version of yourself. Like Primer you can't jump to a certain moment. You have to go in the real time to be in that moment. BTW, can you tell me the problems you found in the movie? Maybe, I have the answer. I am not a Science expert. I've watched it like 6 times and I found some interesting facts which I can share. I also think Tenet is not perfect. But, it's imperfection somehow made it a perfect film. At least, for me.
No question about. It has a compelling story. It looks great, it doesn't have Hans Zimmer re hashing the same handful of tunes over and over. It has a sub text about the magic of the movies versus the hard graft that goes into making them and it has the mystery surrounding the truthfulness of the magicians' respective diaries to one another. Inception is good fun, but every other film you can keep.
"Tenet acts smart and looks nice, but you never really feel invested in what's going on". Agree 100%. The biggest thrill of watch this movie was reaffirming how much I love eating shitty theatre popcorn in the dark.
In a twist no one saw coming, Chris Nolan *_Shyamalaned_* himself. He's gone a little too far up his own arse and he's bought in a little too much in to what people have said and think about him over the years it's starting to show.
@Honey Badger Robert Pattinsons character is telling our Protagonist multiple times throughout the movie to "not think about it" because "it's a paradox" and we "don't have an answer"... so yeah... go watch the movie again to check it, if you want.
You can't understand it, because it makes no sense. This is not a master thesis of physics. Rather enjoy the action for 150 min than think about it the whole time and have no fun at all. I know a lot of people think of them selves as the next Einstein and try to think through this hot mess. If you go into the movie and tell yourself: This violates the rules of thermodynamics, you won't enjoy it.
Memento: One story is told forward while another story is told backwards. Nolan: What if instead of telling the story backwards, I had the people moving backwards in time?
The Evil Mastermind: "Hello, I'm hiring you guys to defend our base. Stop the good guys from invading us, so we can activate the artefact algorithm that will serve to "revert time" and destroy all life on the planet, including your wives and children and everyone you know. I expect you all to fight to the last man and give your lives willingly for this. Your paychecks will be forwarded to your bank accounts following the success of your mission and the destruction of humanity and the world." Thank you The Evil Mastermind.
Not to mention the fact there would be no flashpoint if the plan was successful. Like time would be erased forward and backward so if the plan were ever successful at any point, time would already not exist so you know it's a failure before it even begins
another guy in the comments already summarized it: white woman wants divorce from abusive middle aged white man. black dude helps her to get the divorce. the end.
On the surface it's about people in an environmentally devastated future sending objects backwards in time to get revenge on people in the past. But, most of the movie is about a woman trying to get away from an abusive husband.
@@jasonbrown4526 Kind of feels like you'd be helping yourself more doing something more useful with time traveling particles such as making the past better so your future isn't as crap.
Gotta say, I initially avoided TENET almost entirely because of Robert Pattinson and ultimately went in dreading it merely because he was in it. Well. Oil. Beef. Hooked. If the handsome bastard didn’t go right ahead and s almost single handedly carry everyone else on his broad shoulders with his performance and win over my cold dead heart!
@Domagoj Čović A young, strong, black badasswoman will be playing the old white male scientist Liet Kynes, and the director's past films that he also wrote weren't that great. I'm seeing red flags planted around the new Dune.
What Nolan loves * Guys dressed in sharp suits * Quality actors * People walking around explaining the plot * A beautiful woman at the center * Sharp suits * Good haircuts * Sharp suits * Sharp suits * Plot that involves incepting something or inverting something
@Brian Babin yeah, I think your sample for "everyone" is way too fucking limited, little frog in the well. Maybe the story or characters weren't the most memorable but if you can forget the visuals of the black hole alone, it's a shit memory problem more than anything. It's a very balanced attempt at trying to humanize the staggering reality of interstellar travel. Could it have been done better? Absolutely. Was it a dud? By no means.
When I think of the Nolan films I love, it's the films with characters and relationships I care about that I consider at the top of the list. Prestige, Interstellar, Dark Knight Rises... He is certainly an innovative director with how he sets up plot and narrative but at the heart of your story you need the hook to be in the characters themselves and our investment in them. I found dunkirk, tenet and inception to be narratively interesting yet lacking that investment.
@@soulless6804 Same. I was very invested in the main character, which for me, was all it really needed. There's already so much going on it doesnt really have time for anything else and the side characters do have their own personalities they just aren't fleshed out much.
I hate all time travel in movies and time travel theory. Time is an instrument, just like a map or a compass. If I was the bad guy I would go back in time until I won.
oh man, this review is spot on. Even thinking there was a problem with the theater’s speaker system. I thought mine was going to shake apart and I even told management after that it was so loud I couldn’t understand the dialogue. Turns out, it was just Nolan.
@@mrdean2539 he's "named" jack to represent the everyman, including the script, but that doesn't mean it's his real name. also, the name The Protagonist, fits in this movie because he's supposed to be an unknown spy
@@user-pd2zs4my6p First off, please learn how to separate out your thoughts when you write. I had to reread your message several times because it sounded absolutely idiotic. In Fight Club, the script identifies the narrator as Jack, this is true and Wikipedia does say that this was to relate as the everyman. However, the only real person that comes out of the entire thing is Tyler, the composite left behind when the narrator metaphorically kills his extreme alter ego and himself. As for Tenet, I haven't seen it other than the portions shown here and some of the trailers. That's why I didn't make an assumption about the character's name. I would say that, based on what I have seen and heard here and elsewhere, that your take on the meaning behind the character's name is simplistic at best. No offense.
@@mrdean2539 @Mr Dean first off it's not THAT serious. i really don't want to write an essay on a damn youtube comment section, and if you had to reread a sentence more than once to understand what i mean, that's on you. secondly, his name is NOT tyler durden. if you think that is his name, that's your interpretation, so you don't have to get so heated. here's what wiki has to say about the narrator (based off the novel if you really want to get that deep): "The Narrator does not have a name in the novel, yet is often referred to as "Joe," due to his quotes such as "I am Joe's [blank]". These quotes refer to the Narrator's reading old Reader's Digest articles in which human organs write about themselves in first-person perspective." and sure, my meaning re the protagonist name may be simplistic. but nolan describes the movie as an homage to spy films he grew up with. and if spies are meant to be unknown, why would it be so far off to assume that Nolan didn't want to give him a specific name? just FYI, it's not that hard to be a dick even if you're anonymous. i literally said nothing to offend you lol
Yes. Ironically this film achieved its own form of “inversion” on me - I was entertained by the concept and impressed with the visuals whilst simultaneously being irritated by its arrogance and at times embarrassed by its clumsiness. So I loved it and hated it at the same time, ultimately these cancelled each other out leaving me with a final judgment of... “It was... okayyyyy”. Pattinson is cool he was the easily the best bit. I’m glad you mentioned the muffled dialogue - I was wondering if the hearing part of my brain was failing!
Brilliant, balanced analysis of this film. When I came out the Cinema I thought some of the same things (grandiose and pretentious narrative structure and visual themes at the expense of the basics of what makes a film memorable) but the sheer effort put into this film just makes me want to watch it again and again.
Yep if you're a fan of his movies or just cinema with weird plot and convoluted structure then it's perfect. After watching it twice I think it's my favourite of all Nolan's films. I also see that Drinker got some little bits slightly wrong (or just off), but I also couldn't grasp everything during my first watch.
@Brian Babin Same. Memento, Insomnia, and The Prestige are all fine films and I enjoy them. His "big brain" stuff, however, always comes across as pretentious and complicated. Those films purport depth that simply isn't there and then gloss over the issue with a sheen of spectacle.
I like Nolan's ambition for making very "complex" and unique movies , but Tenet was another one of their films that I didn't know what the hell was happening!
I honestly think his entire thing is that the movie wont make 100% sense to almost anyone unless you watch it multiple times. Which like....whatever, im fine with it because its different from most movies where the writers act like everyone in the audience is a retarded 5 year old, having an over simplified story and explaining everything that was already implied.
I saw this movie in theaters with my girlfriend at the time, because it was the only movie playing at the theater during COVID. At the end of it we both walked out like "Wait. What did we even just watch?"
Tbh this is default Nolan... most of his films are technically impressive with bland characters. I will say that I liked Interstellar more than the others mainly because the movie does spend time on developing the father daughter relationship, which keeps the emotional core stable throughout the film.
@@meris8486 Yeah I think a lot of his films do. But in Interstellar's case it's a little more forgivable because there's more to care about than just plot.
Ukraine. The opening scene was in Ukraine. And I was more than surprised that none of the locals paid attention to the dark-skinned special forces in Ukraine
Imagine a Christopher Nolan film where the main characters travel out into space where time moves a lot slower than on Earth and then they try to perform inception on somebody whilst being inverted.
One part of me would really love to see a big-budget film adaption of Snow Crash, but the more rational part of me knows that present-day Hollywood would almost certainly ruin it.
Drinker: “It reminds me of Rise of Skywalker, and not in a good way.” Viewers: “In what universe would something reminding you of Rise of Skywalker be a good thing?!” But seriously, I agree with your review. The half of it I could follow I overall enjoyed, but the other half either had me bored or too confused to care what was going on.
it got some cool scenes, I went into the cinema expecting to hate it but I left pretty satisfied. I think hating on Rise of Skywalker is just mainstream trend
One of my biggest problems I had with this was that it just introduced so many people so quickly without giving names to any of them that I couldn’t remember who I had even seen before for the first half of the movie
Yeah, i was already losing interest in the plot at that point. You have no idea who the protagonist is, like does he have a familiy? Where does he come from? Why is he in the specialforces? We don't know so it's hard for me to really care about him. And then the plot introduces one guy after the other, and travel to one place after another + there is a quick rundown of inversion AND you are introduced to Tenet. It's just way too much too fast, and at that point i'm really struggling to stay invested in the plot.
@@GrNen yeah. And the fact that half the characters, including the protagonist, have basically no personality. They’re just devices to mode the plot along
The target audience could follow along just fine. I for one am very happy it wasnt dumbed down for the mindless viewers who need their hand helped and cant think for themselves
@@ShinzoX90 what do you think you’re accomplishing by trying to insult my intelligence? Try to make yourself feel smart? For your information, I could follow along with the time reversal part just fine, and enjoyed it quite a bit. I just had trouble remembering any of the characters because of their lack of personality. I love the different science fiction scenarios of many movies, including Interstellar and Inception, I just would like to also have memorable characters that actually get me invested in the story, along with thinking about how the time stuff works.
So wait..... Neil spend 10 years of his life moving forward to study physics and then another 10 to get backwards so that we can see him in the movie? And he is not absolutely mad?
no deep characters here im afraid. im sure if u watched the movie u would understand the plot but really there is no progress in the movie, the best i can put it is, your basically given aload of mysteries i guess - things which u think "why?", and then nolan takes u through everything that happens and answers those mysteries. I can't explain it well without giving away the plot
@LTNetjak You have to pretend that Chris Nolan is so clever that you have to re-watch the movie, because it is that complex. Bollocks. It's not even on par with one of Steve Moffat's "I am so dreadfully clever" _Doctor Who_ plots and structures, but with DOOOOOOOOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM soundtrack
@XxDanSoloxX Chris Nolan is the Elon Musk of cinema. Movie Bros have to worship him, even though it is slapped together from other tech (old NASA tech with cool iPads!) or plots (hey, what do you get if you slap together the Captain Kirk failed _Jack Ryan_ reboot with Daddy Washington's _Deja Vu_ , literally the car chase from _Matrix Reloaded_ but with a _Rewind_ button instead of _Bullet Time_ and any given _Nu Bond_ tedious talk scenes? This movie). It is the last Nolan movie I will ever see. He is getting more pretentious and empty with every new movie
The Drinker's description made me think of Wanted, but curving time rather than bullets. But the Inception/Tenet comparison makes sense, is this dream/going to be rewound is a close parallel.
Your assessment of movies seems to generally match my opinion, and Tenet seems another match. I just watched this last night with my wife, and my wife had tuned out by the end of the movie, and I kept at it, hoping to be drawn in by some event that eventually sewed everything together. This didn't seem to occur, at least not to my level of intellect, I guess. ;) It was fun to look at, interesting in spots, but I found myself watching something that just didn't gel and make me invest my interest and emotion into it. A handful of scenes were quite cool visually, but I never really bought into the reverse time and how it was being integrated into the story. And that red/blue soldiers battle at the end just seemed like a bunch of guys running around shooting things you never actually saw shooting back. Felt like some kind of 'marvel cgi mess' where 1000s of characters who meant nothing were fighting battles that didn't matter.
9:36 "But it stands out more as an impressive technical achievement, rather than a gripping story that you care about." Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: the career of Christopher Nolan.
That’s not true of his career though. All three Batman’s were pretty riveting in the way they told the story and set up the characters, hell you even end up liking the joker (partly because of ledgers acting, but also partly because of what that specific joker represented compared to the other antagonist in the movie) the prestige was also an amazing story with great characters in Bale and Jackman’s two feuding magicians, interstellar had great character development, shit even inception did even though the movie was more centered around “great technical achievement” but just about every single character in that movie was great and the overall story was actually incredible.
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Another great episode!
You should consider getting a bitchute channel (or another alternative). Never know if your opinions are ever labelled too spicy for RUclips.
Not Russia, the opera thing happened in Ukraine ffs
Despite its obvious convolutions, I'll probably check out Tenet when it hit video. If for no other reason than it's so outside of the horse shit Hollywood's been crankin' out over the past decade.
@@natejennings5884 Sounds boring!
@crow grendel You mean _Backwards_
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Do you plan to watch TENET again?
"You already did"
- Christopher Nolan
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How many times have i watched it?
I dunno, in the first half of the movie I had no idea what was going on... but then all of a sudden, in the second half of the movie.. i had absolutely 100% no idea what was going on
But towards the end I was more like... Hmmm, I will never understand this movie.
Well you aren't missing much... the more you understand, the more you realize that the concept of inverted objects is kind of unworkable in the real world.
During the second part of the movie I was like WTF ! , but then I got to the first part of the movie, and I was like ! FTW
Thems some hard lols
@@scratchy996 good one😄
You missed a perfect opportunity to reverse the Tyrion vomiting bit 0/10
you missed the opportunity to say 10/0
10\0.this do to opportunity the Missed Gruber Hans
Good one
I'm glad he did miss it - watching someone eagerly swallow vomit from the floor...argh, no thank you :-))
@OG_Dacs yea we went to see the new mutants. It was a theater where you order food. Had to order it and go get it when it was ready, no more waiters. Could only drink at the bar. I missed the first 15 minutes. And beside they raised the prices so much. We went to a early show. Tickets, two burger and fries was over 75 bucks. Each movie ticket was 15 bucks. I'm done with movie theaters
The thing I love msot about Christopher Nolan is that he hasn't stopped trying new things and a improving upon the formula that has made him so much money. A lesser director would just make inception over and over again and get rich off of it but Nolan is constantly trying to be better. While certain things he tries don't pay off I still respect the effort.
His film, "Interstellar" for me, remains easily amongst my top 10 films of all time. I'm a sci-fi geek when it comes to film and the ponderous, philosophical combined with genuine scientific implications of that film absolutely astonished me after seeing that one! I just love both the "wormhole scene" and then finally the more famous, "Black hole" scene exist as some of the greatest cinematic, mindbogglingly beautiful scenes ever put to film.
Fair Point. . . Pretty sure he’s trying new ideas as opposed to a formula… pretty sure 👍
Yes
Plus his willingness to use practical effects over massive CGI when practical effects are less expensive-the plane crash into the hanger, for example...
Memento is still one of my all time facourites. Inception and Interstellar are also excellent movies. I really enjoyed Tenet. I appreciate a good mind fuck.
Okay No lie, me and my family were watching this movie on a DVD and we reached a moment in the movie where an entire scene played over and over, and due to the premise of this movie, we thought that's what was supposed to happen, so each time it repeated we thought it was part of the movie. When we figured out the DVD player was rewinding the scene it pretty much added another hour onto it. So, that was a good way to spend Christmas Eve.
Hilarious!
I am so sorry dude...
I felt pain reading that. You have my condolences.
P.d. fuck this movie
this got me dead
@@MrMetalhorse yes there is such a thing as trying too hard.
The version you got was actually the "Nolan extra deep cut"
"the protagonist, who's helpfully called 'Protagonist'"
To be fair, Nolan only had five years to work out the script.
They didn't call him ANYTHING in the he movie?!
Agent?
Anything like that??
@@Ramsey276one Int the film he's actually revered to as ''a protaganist'' and ''the protaganist''
I liked Protagonist, but I think that Supporting Female #2 had a great arc.
@@TuriGamer not having seen the movie, I was guessing. I don't suppose they call him MAN??
@@RubenTricky FOR REAL?!
It’s certainly not my favorite Christopher Nolan movie but even his worst is better than some of the best efforts of other directors these days.
Christopher Nolan is THE great Auteurist film maker today. There are no others, but I don't bother checking anymore, so what do I know... IMHO
Joe Morton surely you can’t be sleeping on Denis Villeneuve!?
I consider this film to be close to as good as inception which is my favorite Nolan films. Nolan has made some great films and some films that are just ok but he hasn’t made a bad film yet, and that’s an achievement compared to other directors. One of my favorite directors.
@You Didn't See Graphite, Because It's Not There Thanks for the suggestions. I will check Denis Villeneuve, Ari Aster, James Wan and Mike Flanagan out
@You Didn't See Graphite, Because It's Not There Denis Villeneuve - Basically you are saying I should see the new Dune film... I was not going to, BUT NOW I WILL! All adaptations will be a disappointment, as I read the book straight through in 3 days W/O sleeping... IMHO
It's insane how calm and accepting of the 'Reverse Entropy" The Protagonist is. he is just like 'Okay, I get it, no big deal". really, I would have like a million questions.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics cried the day that Tenet released
@@tf2scoutpunch175 actually there is reverse entropy. Positrons for example. Reverse entropy doesn't violate thermodynamics
@@musiccer7446 Show me more info, please.
@@tf2scoutpunch175 sure, if you're actually curious.
For example: In quantum vacuum fluctuations two virtual particles appear spontaneously.
Lets say its an electron with spin +1/2, negative charge and regular matter. The partner particle will be a positron, an electrons antiparticle. That Positron will have negative energy, positive charge and -1/2 spin. Their properties cancel each other out.
in this case you can assume (according to CPT symmetry) that the positron isn't actually an anti particle with positive charge and -1/2 spin but rather the regular electron traveling back in time. Due to the time reversal the spin goes from +1/2 to -1/2, the properties reverse from negative to positive charge. (negative and positive energy are negligible here because they don't have anything to do with reverse entropy and only serve to keep the energy sum at 0 to not violate thermodynamics)
This is only one example. But the fact that positrons, and any anti particle for that matter, is the regular particle with reversed entropy has been well studied.
However this only works in theory from a mathematical standpoint. We may never know wether it is actually traveling back in time. However, from what we know it is very well possible.
Here is an article for more info:
phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Modern_Physics/Supplemental_Modules_(Modern_Physics)/Antimatter
If you're curious, quantum fluctuations are a very fascinating phenomenon worth looking up. I gave you the short version. But he appearance of energy out of nothing does not violate thermodynamics. crazy stuff
@@musiccer7446 I don't understand it fully, but it was still really interesting to read this. Thanks for this, really
Should have ran the clip of Tyrion throwing up in reverse. A truly missed opportunity.
He may not be that skilled in video editing to be fair.
The sound as he inhales his own vomit should be the reverse of the Sam Neill scream...
@@stevenborg102 its easy to reverse footage these days isn't it?
@@chatteyj I wouldnt have a clue so you tell me!
@@stevenborg102 Yes it is easy enough with whatever editing software he has.
Tenet's biggest lesson is that please give Nolan, a Bond movie to direct. That way, he can't over-complicate the plot beyond an acceptable limit and still bring the best of his directorial tools to the game.
Bond movies are embarrassing relics from a bygone era. Tenet was Nolan's big dumb action movie and it was smarter than every other big dumb action movie combined.
for sure , he will find a way in insert a fucking time machine no matter what
@@The_ScapeGoat yeah I keep asking myself to pretend it's a Michael Bay movie, and hey, it's not so bad! I think we're being too harsh on Nolan's take on the action genre, however it tries so hard to convince you it's intellectually captivating film-watching experience, when it's almost impossible to see it that way on the first watch. The set-pieces alone are inventive and original. Definitely a good take on a Mission: Impossible film, essentially what it is.
Actually I want to give Nolan something like a black comedy, where two aging brothers played by Ron Pearlman and Tom Waits have to bury their dad/scatter his ashes. Ones a waster bum, the other the owner of a blues bar on the east coast and hate each other. They have to go on a road trip across america to see all the places he wanted before he died and a way to get them to reconsile. Its about generations and rebels realising time moves without them and they meet a woman Chloe Moretz that is becoming them. But its complex in timelines and a web of set ups over decades that pay off in this trip. Waits, the waster has a studebaker cliche and Pearlman quips "what are you a fucking muppet? I aint driving in that"
@@joegrimes9232 oddly specific
Nolan makes movies that sometimes work like a miracle and other times they simply don't.
One thing you can credit him though is that he never produces unimaginative boring crap. In a day and age when movies tend to be safe, bland and unchallenging, Nolan is a breath of desperately needed fresh air. Whether his new movies succeed in their goal or not, they are something to look forward to and that today is a big win.
Nolan to me is Ridley Scott meets M Knight Shamalambles. You have one great movie that had twists and concept. Now do it again.
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While I agree that it's nice that he likes to think outside the box, I don't think he does it from a storytelling standpoint. He has a visual or conceptual "outside the box" idea, and then shoehorns a story into it. It doesn't work for me.
Nolan's habit of making his movies as over-complicated as possible finally bit him in the ass with Tenet but I get what you are saying, he should have made this movie like he made Inception, that one is pretty easy to understand but this one is so confusing.
yeah but still this one is a total failure
"But it stands out as more of an impressive technical achievment rather than a gripping story that you care about" perfectly sums up my feelings about Nolan films
especially this one
some of his movies have really engaging plots and they unravel those plots in an interesting and fun way like memento, inception, the prestige and the dark knight (pretty straight forward but the joker plan comes along slowly as the movie goes)
For his worst movies, yeah that's the case. The movies that I think did a good job at balancing intriguing plot and engaging storytelling are Memento, Inception, Interstellar, and the first two Dark Knight movies.
Momento I thought was good.
@@oldlavygenes and the prestige, i love that one
"Making something more complex doesn't make it more intelligent" -southpark, inception episode
Possibly the most perceptive show ever written.
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To be fair the writers of South park panned that episode said it was rushed
Nail on the head. Inception had a simple tale, made unnecessarily complicated, Too many guys were going out of their way to prove their "intelligence" by shouting how much they liked the film. But emperor Nolan often really has no clothes on. It's all vanity. I appreciate what he's trying but the novelty has worn off long ago. I still love Memento.
There's something like an Occam's razor to story telling, where maintaining simplicity in it's design often is a virtue. I never feel like having to remember 10 different names or 20 different timelines.
That’s all I could think about watching this movie!! I started making the noises in the movie😂
Robert Pattinson is a great actor. He really worked hard to get rid of the twilight stigma.
I'm actually really happy to hear he was a highlight of this movie as far as acting and character goes, especially after I noticed he was in the movie while watching the review.
He certainly has started to sparkle in the spotlight recently...
He was definitely the best character in the movie
It's been gone a long time ago mate
@London Journo Lighthouse?
Tenet: A film about a woman trying to get a divorce- the rest is just a Mcguffin to enable this conclusion.
I would even argue the villain story could be practically stolen from ST Voyager's "The Year of Hell"...
Perfect explanation mate! 😂
@@pennedarts A movie script which took the director about 2 years to invent and another 5 years or so to figure out, even though it was stolen from a television episode which aired over 20 years ago.
That sounds about right for Hollywood's finest.
I prefered the original to be honest. It's called The Night Manager.
Kat is playing the same character.
I'm curious how a movie would remind you of Rise of Skywalker in a good way lol
What I like about Nolan is that he trusts the audience to figure things out instead of a typical Hollywood thriller that walks you through step by step what is happening or at least makes the outcome obvious and clichéd. Tenet is indeed a huge technical achievment but is lacking in emotional impact that steals from the films potential. Nolan's next film about Oppenhiemmer will I hope be more balanced...
"For me, the standout was Robert Pattinson, who manages to switch easily between quirky, eccentric scientist, and kick ass, no nonsense spy with a bit of suave British charm thrown in for good measure. He always gives the impression that he knows more than he's letting on, and he's pretty fun to watch." -- ya got that right. He is the plot, really, and worth watching the movie for. He never disappoints.
...Robert Pattinson for next James Bond? This does give me hope he will work out as Bruce/Batman.
See him in The Lighthouse - he is stellar
@@Tekisasubakani he also said he wouldnt work out for the role because of "body positivity". So I'll pass
@@DiggitySlice Really? Come on dude, you're smarter than that.
the reason why he of all characters seems the most confident and in control is because.... he is. Some people don't agree with the whole Neil is just older Max theory, but if you follow it, it makes logical sense that he would be doing the most time travel through inverting himself, and as such, is more knowledgeable of all events in the movie than every other character. In essence, it would make him the true protagonist as the current protagonist set him on a path to help him for just this reason. After writing this comment, I realize now that talking about this movie results in a lot of circular logic that more or less just says "it happened because it happened" but in a way, thats kind of the movie's charm.
Wonder how the Russians ever figured out Protagonist was a spy, he blends in to Russian society so well.
LMAO
He was too confident for a black person in Russia I'm sure sure or something like that. If you are trully a minority , you shouldn't bug a majority in any way and try to hide confidence or your behaviour might get very problematic and cause stereotypical hate, like racism. Western modern left really stupid to try to use minorities' validity , all they do is breed stereotypical hate on both sides, divide for power and to conquer non believers. Maybe he just had the gun exposing him, self defence is almost non existent concept ( try to prove it's self defence, most likely you'll get in jail anyways) in any not US country.
@EramSemperRecta reminds me of the Frankenstein Chronicles series on Amazon, where a black actor is cast into a white role, and nobody in Victorian England bats an eye or even acknowledges his race. It's like a weird form of blackface, somehow pretending that racism never existed.
@EramSemperRecta You're not the only one who notices and is bothered by it, most people are just too polite to say anything.
@EramSemperRecta You start to wonder if you're just some lone nut if other people don't speak up once in a while to let you know that, no, you're not.
Robert Pattinson has shown his acting chops since shrugging off that Twilight burden. He was awesome in The Lighthouse.
Increasingly reminds me of David McCallum, in a good way
My boys were terrified of him being Batman until they saw Tenet. Now they are sure he will crush it.
You thinks so? I thoughthe really paled compared to Willam Dafoe. For me he was the weakest part of Lighthouse...
@@saftpackerl To be fair almost everyone pales in comparison to Willem Defoe.
@@saftpackerl because dafoe character is more interesting, I mean hes basically a less crazy joker with an obsession with the light. Pattinson make a god damn good performance especially the accent.
Nolan did his best work in Inception-balancing his brainy impulses with a character arc that was emotionally satisfying.
Tenent makes no sence because it says a time machine is invented in the future but the walk through thing is a time machine so who built it?
@@HOLLASOUNDS That's not so hard. Once you have the knowledge and one machine in the future, you can simply send the INFORMATION on how to build one back, then have someone else build it in the past. That's pretty much how Andrei built his empire: With some information and gold from the future.
@@dominicpascal5512 That's a paradox, and something I used to think about long before this film come out. I get sent information on how to build a time machine from the future the person got the information on how to build the time machine because they already have the information because the guy built the time machine in the past. Long story short Nobody actually ever designed the time machine it just exists in a loop.
Memento is much better.
No way. Interstellar destroys it. Momento too is killer.
This movie is the hardest that Nolan has ever Nolaned...
Lmao
I'm getting cinema sins vibes here.
It was not that difficult in concept, but was poor in execution
@@purplespark8 not poor just unexplicable Fast PACE!!
@@isaackmojica8302 yep, thought that too at the first watch. Seriously, give the movie another go, the pacing seems MUCH more forgiving the second time
@@purplespark8 actually, it was difficult. Not just the concept of reverse entropy on paper, which in itself is beyond the simple "its just goes in reverse" definition, but the fact that when shooting scenes with reversed time the filmmakers had to stage two moving sections of one scene that would have to go into the opposite direction of each other. It's not just reversing the tape back. People and props had to move backwards in real time.
"After a while you stop caring" - exactly how I felt half way through the movie
And that changes during the 2nd viewing! People don't get that
@@abhinavannam9045 Actually even if you make sense of inversion while watching it first time, you should watch it second time. Movie gives you something extra second time, especially the connection between Protagonist and Pattinson's character becomes completely different and interesting.
@@JeMand.Anders If you're saying JDW's acting was bad.. BYE FELICIA!
@@almightyguy3987 Exactly.
@@JeMand.Anders washington's acting was laughable
Brad Jones had a pretty quotable review of this movie. "Imagine you're watching The Matrix, and the opening scene is the ledge scene, then 5 minutes in we have the pill scene, 15 minutes in is the lobby shootout, then an hour in we've skipped to The Matrix Reloaded and are watching the highway chase." Also "maybe it makes sense, maybe it doesn't. To hell if I know, don't ask me, I only saw the movie."
Holy shit that actually makes sense. I watched it yesterday and was like ok the last half kinda lost me.
it is like watching the end of evangelion, i mean jesus christ, why do people like to confuse themselves just to pretend they're smart, movies shouldn't be unnecessarily convoluted
@@Kev7035 Watching EoE without any context of NGE was even weirder.
@@Kev7035 No no no, don't get made at other people. You and i both know the problem, the only difference being i'm willing to admit it. We're too dumb for Tenet. That's perfectly fine btw.
You know Tenet made me think a lot about The Matrix...If The Matrix hadn’t so expertly and clearly defined the rules of it’s world. That to me is the biggest weakness of Tenet. Also, remember how Tenet said that when you invert you have to provide your own oxygen and yet Kat had no oxygen mask when she went back on the boat. Things like that take me out of the film.
In Tenet, after the big military battle and the death of Sator, the Protagonist and Neil have a conversation where it dawns on the Protagonist that he is the architect and Neil is his greatest friend. It is clearly meant to be a moving scene, given the tears streaming down the Protagonist's face. However, it left me completely blank and confused. Christopher Nolan must have buried himself in this theoretical headfuck world for too long and lost the perspective of the audience, or perhaps he just wanted to write a more headfucky movie than Primer.
Tenet is a prime example of how, no matter how smart and talented you are, no matter how much effort and skill you put into the story and execution, there is no way for time travel to make logical sense. There will always be contradictions, paradoxes, and things you just have to hand-wave away.
I've seen a lot of time travelling stories told well. This was a piece of shit because Nolan couldn't be bothered to explain anything well or get his audience to emotionally invest it anything
Time Travel is and always will be a concept that should be left to books, they have the time and ability to actually try to explain a theory. Not even a 3 hour movie can get the world building down, and if it tried there'd be no story.
Basically, if a movie is gonna play with time travel, just deduct a point or two from its score and move on. It's never going to make sense.
One word: Predestination
@@rubendilda8142 I loved Predestination mainly because the whole movie was basically a satire of time travel movies.
Watch DARK on Netflix my friend...they do time travel right
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who couldn’t hear half the shit people were saying.
Even if sound was really loud I (personally) only couldnt hear the dialogue in the opera shootout. Everywhere it was fine
yep...i was in a Dolby theatre, and my wife and i both couldn't make out what was being said through most of the movie- very annoying...
I had the same problem with interstellar
Just finished watching it. Had to turn on subtitles just to figure out the dialogue. The music was overbearing and obnoxious at points.
It made sense in Interstellar where the dialogue barely mattered yet the music drove the emotions of many scenes.
In Tenet it serves no purpose and only damages the film.
"Tenet" is easily the best movie of the year. Of course, it is only competing with "Trolls World Tour".
You forgot the masterpiece that was Bad Boys 3.
Nah, the Sonic movie obviously wins here.
@@soni-switch5270 the sonic movie was so shit lmfao
Demon slayer the anime film was great as well
I’m thinking of ending things was pretty neat
"prioritizing grandiose intellectual concepts at the expense of crafting an emotionally satisfying narrative with strong and interesting characters" is the most eloquent and comprehensive description of Christopher Nolan I've ever heard
I guess you've never seen Inception
Name 10 other directors without google.
Then stfu with the criticism lol
@@The_ScapeGoat Agreed....Nolan literally did that in inception and it was incredibly well done. Nolan can't have an L without getting shit on for it.
@@ISetYourFaceOnFire That wouldn't happen if people didn't hail him as the second coming of cinema christ.
@MajimasMajimemes seen memento? Dark knight? Insomnia? Overrated but still good interstellar?
He's a very good and thought provoking film maker, I didn't like tenet from my first viewing, but I didn't get anything either.
So basically, it's Robert Patensons audition for the next James Bond?
Not a bad choice tbh
Too young.
OH God please no....
MagBa Yeah, idk why people keep saying he’s “too young” for certain roles. Just say you don’t like him.
W-Tek He’s a good actor though, and would be a good choice. I’m going to guess you don’t actually have a reason for disliking him other than “twilight bad.”
"This is a film that you probably need to watch several times to fully understand and appreciate .....and I'm not going to do that"
I'm might give it another shot on home release if there is subtitles because I feel like I missed half of the movie with the sound so muffled. But I doubt it will make the characters or story any more interesting.
Well im going to do it, It will be funer the next time you see because you get a beter prospective on what realy going on
Only if I got the uncut version with subtitles and fixed audio, then I'll give it a go.
And that's your loss xD
I wish that Christopher Nolan would direct a movie about Christopher Nolan starring Leonardo DiCaprio.
That would be sooo meta that it could happen! 😂
Technically still Inception lol. The whole cast is based off a production. Most notably, Cobb is the “director” of the whole operation, and who plays Cobb?
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He did. It's called "conception". The movie takes place in Mrs. Nolan's womb.
@@matthewcastillo310 Cobb even dresses like Nolan. The most interesting thing is in Inception, Cobb is asked to insert a suggestion in to Cillian Murphy's mind. Do you recall the controversy around Sandy Hook appearing in the 2nd Batman movie? Not long after, a school shooting took place in a place called, wait for it, Sandy Hook. I found it odd and I am not one to automatically believe every conspiracy hypothesis I hear. There were many interenet voices suggesting Sandy Hook appearing in one of the most lucrative movies ever was no coinsidence. To then have a similar scenario turn up in Nolan's next film was very curious indeed.
One of the biggest issues with Nolan is that he creates these visually incredible films with cool effects and concepts, but sometimes forgets to put likable, fleshed out characters into the plot.
Exactly! Dunkirk was exactly that! I just couldn't relate to the characters. 😑
@@domrogg4362 Interstellar is an exception though, no?
@@sinanuluc5143 I love Interstellar. 😁
Totally agree which is why I still think Insomnia is one of his best movies, there are no big, clever plot devices, concepts or macguffins, just a great psychological study of two broken characters in an extreme environment - sometimes less is more!
@@domrogg4362 Same!
The Prestige was the pinnacle of Nolan for me, it had a great story, lots of layers/twinned elements, it was clever, well acted, challenging to the watcher without becoming impenetrable, a fabulous, cinegenius film.
yeah but to be fair that is based on a book
Realy? A magician that uses instantaneous cloning in the late 19th century and creates a new version of himself in every performance he makes thus having to kill his extra copies, all out of spite because another magician has a trick he cannot reverse-engineer, THAT's Nolan's pinnacle for you? ROFL
@@lm7_gio calling it the pinnacle of Nolan was misguided but the movie was pretty good, describing it in a negative way won't change that. Jonathan Nolan writes some pretty good stuff
@@lm7_gioYou literally do not know what happened in a movie that you're trashing. "The Prestige" act is the movie itself and you are the audience that has been fooled.
And bonus: David Bowie as Nick Tesla.
Robert Pattinson is underrated. Yeah he was in twilight but he's brought it in other movies if people take the time to track down his work.
Good Time was the fucking shit.
He was amazing in The Lighthouse
Ask Jake Whithall about Patison
No hes not. Hes not underrated. The world knows hes awesome and a superb performer. That knowledge is just suppressed by the social adjendas and PC culture, antifa, nazi ass, adjenda pushing jobless pieces of shit of today who have forced an opinion that if your white, make great quality films, & are talented then your nothing but the oppressor of those who can't tie thier shoes or find their way home without a damn smart phone.
Who cares about how talented one person is. Its all about how mediocre everyone else is. They deserve Oscar's just for existing. Just ask them. They'll flat out tell you they do.
Everyone go watch The Rover
Pattinson has massively improved since twilight. He also roasts twilight in interviews, so I have a lot of respect for the guy.
He was really good in The Rover
And good time and the king and the Lighthouse
I've been a huge fan since Good Time, I think hes made the exact right moves since twilight to become a well respected actor. I'm surprised he took Batman though, I would think he would be leery of these tent pole franchise pictures. High risk, high reward I guess. I'm worried the Nolan films are going to be the template, the trailer seems very reminiscent of those films. I'd like to see some risks taken. I hated that the second two films focused so much on him retiring - my head canon Batman is kind of nuts, and obsessed, would never consider stopping
@@keithmichael112 That's the Batman in most fan's headcanon. There are certain superheroes who never retire, never truly get a Hollywood happy ending. It just goes against the character too much. As such It's really annoying when writers/producers/directors don't realize this and try to force some BS ending to the character.
Batman is one and Captain America is another. For Cap his sense of duty will always compel him to be a hero, plus he's a man out of time, whoever he may have wanted to be and the life he may have once thought of having all vanished when he fell into the sea. As for Batman well Bruce Wayne is the costume Batman wears in the daytime, there's no person there to ever actually have a normal life so any notion of him not being Batman is absurd.
@@thefilthyrhombus3856 it's kind of a catch 22, a reasonable person would consider that they should stop dressing like a bat and fighting crime, maybe enjoy some nice french restaurants, but they also wouldn't have started in the first place.
The ending battle sequence, with everyone wearing mask, was completely confusing.
That’s fair. I thought it was really interesting
Why couldn't they have just worn tinted masks? it would get rid of the "if you see yourself = annihilation" issue
I mean... If you got concept of inversion than it was not... Hate to be ,,that guy,, v
But if you got the concept it is really simple
@@garfieldman2380 i'm pretty sure you can *see* yourself, you just can't touch yourself
@@joaquimpereira4995 Whatt about that scene where the protagonist in the freeport is trying to prevent himself from taking off the mask? They were fighting, which is a form of touching. So do you only get annihilated if you know its yourself you touched? Theres a lot of unanswered rules.
You didn't mention the chemistry between the protagonist and Neil, that makes the climax really emotional
This review is absolutely perfect. I left the theater thinking Nolan is basically Kojima and needs someone to reign him in. So much spectacle and high concept sci-fi, but not emotion. I feel nothing for any of the characters.
He sucked all the emotion out of Dunkirk as well. One of my favorite acts of heroism and patriotism in all of history and it was absolutely flat.
And this is the problem with Nolan in general.His movies are mostly plot/concept driven and not so character driven,or even a balanced combination of both.His best character so far is Ledger's Joker and,well,he's crearly an antagonist,elevated by the latter's great performance.
Well, I *did* feel something for Anne Hathaway's character: disdain.
@@reneelasswell3734 Totally agree. The only connection I felt to the characters was just the baseline "hey these are the good guys, I'd rather not see them die, I suppose"
@@reneelasswell3734 You weren't supposed to get attached to the characters, their names are barely mentioned. You missed the point of the film entirely.
Nolan Films (Increasingly): Cold, unengaging characters mumbling meaningfully, while a single clever premise is repeated ad nauseum with increasingly bombastic music and frenzied action... to disguise the cold unengaging characters at the centre of it all
That’s absolutely on point.
the dark knight trilogy didn't suffer from this thankfully
@@Wilantonjakov Bane?
@@Wilantonjakov that's why it's increasingly
prestige and inception didnt suffer either
Nolan's the guy who quietly speaks little bits of wisdom in a techno club.
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You forgot the quotes around "wisdom".
@@ericv00 I "forgot" the quotes around wisdom.
This is simply what happens when a director as genius as Nolan is, gets too much control (re Army of the Dead, The Phantom Menace etc). I loved hearing recently that Tarantino cut his favorite scene from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Not only was it his and Leo (DeCaprio)'s favorite scene, he also believed that Julia Butters (the young girl actor from the set) would win an Oscar. Good to see that one of the best directors around is willing to let other people tell him no, and he to an extent will listen. I think Nolan could do with the same.
Ah, so the sound editing is like every Christopher Nolan film since Inception
character one: 'psss pss psst psst psst'
character two: 'fvvt tvvf fftv vvt pvv'
*EXPLOSION* ; *LOUDER EXPLOSION*
And don't forget the music.
BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
bane's competing with arnold schwarzenegger and critical drinker for the greatest voice of all time
Important plot details...outside, on a ferry, in a strong wind with crashing waves.
Michael Bay: King of the Explosion.
Christopher Nolan: King of the Implosion.
Good in cinemas but when I'm watching it on the TV, I'm constantly adjusting the volume. Interstellar's my favorite but God damn just give my volume-changing thumbs a rest.
Robert Pattinson has grown into one of the most fascinating actors working today, I dare anyone who has seen The Lighthouse to disagree.
Twilight saga will always disagree with you. Like forever.
I remember seeing Good Time and thinking he was great. Then The Lighthouse convinced me that he's a superb actor.
I'm glad he's finally getting the recognition he deserves.
The Lighthouse was boring, pretentious twaddle, but he was good in it.
Renee Lasswell Pattinson and Defoe were brilliant in that one. Too bad Oscars ghosted them.
David Ricardo Sativa that’s the past he is a great actor
I loved the movie the first time I watched it, second time I saw some cool details I missed but the thing about this movie is that you cant think about the concept too much because even at its core its confusing, but due to it being shot form different peoples perspectives and in different times its becomes impossible to follow or comprehend, even if you start writing the events down in a notebook (trust me). But the overall dynamic of this movie was incredible to me, the ending was perfectly tense and thrilling and the ending ending was awesome with Pattisons revelation and the ending ending ending was cool with that Indian arms dealer being shot.
"Don't try to understand it". A million youtube videos later trying to understand it. I think I like it because it's baffling. Like humanity.
Regardless of whether people like it or not this is such a refreshing new idea. Unlike most ideas nowadays
It's the nearest we're going to get to a film adaptation of those Heinlein stories about time travel that pile paradox on paradox.
“Tenet introduces us to the protagonist, who is helpfully named Protagonist.” Wait...did Rian Johnson named the characters for Nolan 🤦🏼♂️
At least he's diverse That's MOST important
if ryan did this the guy would be a side character
Tf does Rian Johnson have to do with this?
He's Taggart Niste, they call him... "The Pro"
No, otherwise he’d have been named “Antagonist”. You know, subversion and all?
The sound balancing issue was in Interstellar as well, I think. The voices were too quiet for the volume level of the SFX.
@dysk 1272 Did you see it in theater? I've only streamed it and had audio issues.
It’s a Nolan issue. Dark Knight Rises, Inception, and Interstellar all have this sound mixing issue.
@@JoshuaBarberShoppe Now that you mention it, I kinda remember Dark Knight having that issue. Sometimes the music is a bit too loud also.
@@karlwest437 Back and forth and back and forth. Lol
Jesus Christ the SFX was so loud I started to have Vietnam flashbacks and I'm only 21 and European
I went into this movie really wanting to enjoy it. I'm not one of those people that thinks that everything Nolan touches turns to gold, but I have very much enjoyed some of his past movies, such as Memento, The Prestige, Inception, and even Interstellar (even though I acknowledge that it has some story flaws). The thing is, each one of those films has a central character that I came to care about. I cared about the motivations for the characters that Guy Pearce, Hugh Jackman, Leonardo Dicaprio, and Matthew McConaughey played in those films. In this film, it felt to me that the characters are essentially stand-ins for concepts, even more so than in some of Nolan past films, and ultimately I ended up feeling kind of lukewarm about this film when it was over. There were definitely some amazing moments, and I wouldn't say that I completely disliked it, but I walked away feeling that it is unlikely that I'll have the burning desire to watch it again, despite the fact that repeat viewings would probably be interesting on an intellectual level. Also, I agree with this review in that the sound mixing is just incredibly bad for a big-budget film. There were indeed moments where I had trouble understanding what was being said, and I work on producing music/audio on regular basis so, I use my ears critically often and yet, there were times when the dialogue in this film was almost inaudible to me.
I can 100% guarantee you that repeat viewings make the movie fall apart even faster and further.
Public: "We can't understand what Bane is saying, Chris!?!"
Nolan: "How about a $200M movie chalk fulla Banes?"
I have to say it just may be the cinemas that people are watching from. The only time I couldn't understand the dialog was when protagonist was listening through the window as the unboxed the gold.
@@GeryonM I was dead center. 550 seat Dolby avx. Grew up in a Hifi/home theatre store and spent 15 years as a filmmaker and did plenty of hours in full mixing suites. I couldn't follow the dialogue in at least 20 places in the film. Nolan has an issue here. He likes obscuring what people are saying with the belief that the film is visual and that the necessary pieces to carry the story as there and that the audience can put 2 and 2 together. Sometimes, he's wrong.
Exactly. Making a film that is heavily reliant on understanding its plot and different concepts and theories about time, only to make it difficult to audibly hear dialouge. Brilliant.
I actually thought the sound issue was just me or my theater, it is kind of a relief that it wasn't.
@@jasonasdecker It wasn't just you.
I love a good mind-fuck movie, and Nolan is the master. To this day I still think his best work is The Prestige. It's the Nolan film I watch the most. Even though you got clues to the plot throughout the movie, it still felt surprising and satisfying when it was revealed.
Agreed... and in this I was just waiting for 'Protagonist' to be told what the audience already knew from the beginning.
I think the main issue with the attempted twist, was the lack of misdirection. If they had revealed a new character to be the attacker in the freeport, or the leader of the 'timecops' - it would have felt unearned and frustrating. But leaving no other options just left the audience waiting... Waiting sucks.
This movie felt like a mind fuck at the beginning, but as soon as I started noticing the similarities to Primer (which I've seen probably a dozen times to sort it all out) I could pay attention to the few things that were different and it was way easier to make sense of. Aside from the phone conversations between forward and inverse, fuck that part.
@@JayFlowie Aah, what's the similarities with Tenet and Primers. The mechanics of Tenet works very differently.
@@mahbubulhaque735 yeah, the way they travel backwards is different, but the mechanism of the time travel is similar, can only go back as far as a fixed point as you need to set time in the correct orientation. But also the multiple versions of yourself already on their pre-destined routes. The more I think about the movie though, the more the flaws there really bother me for a guy that claimed to have thought it out for years.
@@JayFlowie I don't think "You can go far as a certain point" is quite right. In Primer you have to be in the box for 6 hours to travel back. Thus you make a new version of yourself. But, that's how every time travel movie works. Prisoners of Azkaban also did that before Primer (Though it's a fantasy).
In Tenet you don't have to be in the turnstile to travel back. Turnstile is something like a time inversion door. When you enter the turnstile you only create an inverted version of yourself. Like Primer you can't jump to a certain moment. You have to go in the real time to be in that moment.
BTW, can you tell me the problems you found in the movie? Maybe, I have the answer. I am not a Science expert. I've watched it like 6 times and I found some interesting facts which I can share. I also think Tenet is not perfect. But, it's imperfection somehow made it a perfect film. At least, for me.
So Christopher Nolan is basically Michael Bay trying to imitate Stanley Kubrick.
Underrated comment!
The Prestige is Nolan at his absolute best. Incredible film.
Memento Bro. Absolute masterpiece
I think Following is his best and the 3rd Batman movie gets this BS backlash cuz it followed the heath ledger movie but it is actually really good IMO
That was great movie
No question about. It has a compelling story. It looks great, it doesn't have Hans Zimmer re hashing the same handful of tunes over and over. It has a sub text about the magic of the movies versus the hard graft that goes into making them and it has the mystery surrounding the truthfulness of the magicians' respective diaries to one another. Inception is good fun, but every other film you can keep.
Nah Inception my guy
Robert Pattinson's performance was best thing in the film, imo.
the only good thing
"Tenet acts smart and looks nice, but you never really feel invested in what's going on". Agree 100%. The biggest thrill of watch this movie was reaffirming how much I love eating shitty theatre popcorn in the dark.
I'll bet you cut a hole in the bottom of the bucket to stuff your junk through too, no judgement here though.
And busting your ears off to frigging hear characters over the deafening audio mix. What a nightmare. I think Nolan is beginning to lose it.
Yeh cos there were no awesome action sequences...
Jeff Walters that way there’d actually be something valuable in there with all the popped corn
Jeff Walters bahah
Synopsis of Tenet:
Film starts, stuff happens, than more stuff happens followed by stuff happening that doesn't make any sense, film ends.
It makes sense when you look it as a loop.
In a twist no one saw coming, Chris Nolan *_Shyamalaned_* himself.
He's gone a little too far up his own arse and he's bought in a little too much in to what people have said and think about him over the years it's starting to show.
Well ...at least we know the title of his next film.😡💩🥴
Exactly... Great concept / visuals for a movie but not well executed or fun
He's surrounded by a bunch of yes men. Everyone is too pussy to stand up to him
Nope
He needs people to tell him that maybe he's not as good as he thinks he is.
Nolan kept writing pages of script, but when he came back to it the pages were empty....
This was almost exactly how I felt about TENET, so it makes me satisfied to hear the Critical Drinker putting his grumpy spin on it.
No not 100 set becase box office going flop
Saw Tenet yesterday. It's a bit of a mess, but it's an interesting mess at least. And still better than most drivel out there being made.
I love how much it embraces the bonkers, with characters fighting themselves and chasing themselves in cars.
When the creators say, "don't try to understand Tenet, just enjoy it." Its a bad sign.
It's all just a series of paradoxes silly!
aka: we didn't even try to have it make sense
@Honey Badger Start of movie I Think
@Honey Badger Robert Pattinsons character is telling our Protagonist multiple times throughout the movie to "not think about it" because "it's a paradox" and we "don't have an answer"... so yeah... go watch the movie again to check it, if you want.
I'm surprised he didn't' mention anything about "subverting expectations" That seems to get the ball rolling.
You can't understand it, because it makes no sense. This is not a master thesis of physics. Rather enjoy the action for 150 min than think about it the whole time and have no fun at all. I know a lot of people think of them selves as the next Einstein and try to think through this hot mess. If you go into the movie and tell yourself: This violates the rules of thermodynamics, you won't enjoy it.
I think this is the first Nolan movie I've seen that I just have no desire to watch a second time.
Christopher Nolan "I have an idea that looks really cool in my head. How do I make it into a movie and have it make some semblance of 'sense' ?"
Inception: time is moving slower
Interstellar: time is moving faster
Tenet: Yes!
Tenet: time is moving backward
Memento: One story is told forward while another story is told backwards.
Nolan: What if instead of telling the story backwards, I had the people moving backwards in time?
Tenet : time Nolan retired or, maybe he should unretired.
One thing I took away from Tenet was that Robert Pattinson is a fantastic actor, didn’t expect such a performance from him
The Evil Mastermind:
"Hello, I'm hiring you guys to defend our base. Stop the good guys from invading us, so we can activate the artefact algorithm that will serve to "revert time" and destroy all life on the planet, including your wives and children and everyone you know. I expect you all to fight to the last man and give your lives willingly for this.
Your paychecks will be forwarded to your bank accounts following the success of your mission and the destruction of humanity and the world."
Thank you
The Evil Mastermind.
MASTERFUL
90% ''bad guys'' of movies in the nutshell.
Not to mention the fact there would be no flashpoint if the plan was successful. Like time would be erased forward and backward so if the plan were ever successful at any point, time would already not exist so you know it's a failure before it even begins
@OG_Dacs you post this shit again? lol
In all fairness, the henchmen had no idea what his plan was. They're just paid to guard that location.
After watching this, I still have no idea what this movie is about .
another guy in the comments already summarized it: white woman wants divorce from abusive middle aged white man. black dude helps her to get the divorce. the end.
On the surface it's about people in an environmentally devastated future sending objects backwards in time to get revenge on people in the past.
But, most of the movie is about a woman trying to get away from an abusive husband.
I know right, 2 thirds of the time I had no fking idea about what was happening. And as the drinker says at some point I just stopped caring.
It's about divorce)
@@jasonbrown4526 Kind of feels like you'd be helping yourself more doing something more useful with time traveling particles such as making the past better so your future isn't as crap.
Gotta say, I initially avoided TENET almost entirely because of Robert Pattinson and ultimately went in dreading it merely because he was in it. Well. Oil. Beef. Hooked. If the handsome bastard didn’t go right ahead and s almost single handedly carry everyone else on his broad shoulders with his performance and win over my cold dead heart!
I mean, that's probably the best we're getting this year
@Domagoj Čović You beat me!
The French Dispatch
@Domagoj Čović A young, strong, black badasswoman will be playing the old white male scientist Liet Kynes, and the director's past films that he also wrote weren't that great. I'm seeing red flags planted around the new Dune.
We’ve got Biden to laugh at though! I mean, you know the thing......COME ON MAN!
@@davidkyo1985 prisoners and blade runner 2049 are works of art mate
The movie equivalent of the expression: " *But why though?!* "
I prefer why not?
Tenet feels like Christopher Nolan parodying Christopher Nolan.
Exactly what I was thinking.
@@MmmKayHuuNay nolan >>> tarantino.
Yeah to me lt did seem like he made it complicated for the sake of it being complicated, not because he wanted to make a good story
What Nolan loves
* Guys dressed in sharp suits
* Quality actors
* People walking around explaining the plot
* A beautiful woman at the center
* Sharp suits
* Good haircuts
* Sharp suits
* Sharp suits
* Plot that involves incepting something or inverting something
@@thatsreelcreative What tarantino loves:
- The N word
- Fake history
- Feet
Tenet was like watching Back to The Future part II without having seen Back to The Future
TENET: don’t look past how “cool” it looks and you’ll enjoy it just fine.
@Brian Babin By what unearthly standards was "Interstellar" a dud? I can see some snobs feeling underwhelmed, but that thing was genuinely enjoyable.
@Brian Babin yeah, I think your sample for
"everyone" is way too fucking limited, little frog in the well. Maybe the story or characters weren't the most memorable but if you can forget the visuals of the black hole alone, it's a shit memory problem more than anything. It's a very balanced attempt at trying to humanize the staggering reality of interstellar travel. Could it have been done better? Absolutely. Was it a dud? By no means.
Brian Babin it’s one of those movies that I rewatch regularly, like Tenet it feels like unfinished business, but I like it nonetheless
When I think of the Nolan films I love, it's the films with characters and relationships I care about that I consider at the top of the list. Prestige, Interstellar, Dark Knight Rises...
He is certainly an innovative director with how he sets up plot and narrative but at the heart of your story you need the hook to be in the characters themselves and our investment in them.
I found dunkirk, tenet and inception to be narratively interesting yet lacking that investment.
Inception for me actually had decent character establishing (for me), but I See why you would mention it
@@soulless6804 Same. I was very invested in the main character, which for me, was all it really needed. There's already so much going on it doesnt really have time for anything else and the side characters do have their own personalities they just aren't fleshed out much.
The Dark Knight Rises good?
Wahahahahahahahahahaha 😅😅😅
This "time going in reverse" was handled best in the Red Dwarf episode "Backwards".
Pretty sure Red Dwarf did everything best.
He's just - you know - in the bushes.
I hate all time travel in movies and time travel theory. Time is an instrument, just like a map or a compass. If I was the bad guy I would go back in time until I won.
Bob Dole yeah Sator the bad guy did exactly that on the highway scene.
Could backfire and catch you in a weird perpetual loop though.
@@paulvsmith Cat's face! Everytime! I'm lol'ing right now just thinking about it.
oh man, this review is spot on. Even thinking there was a problem with the theater’s speaker system. I thought mine was going to shake apart and I even told management after that it was so loud I couldn’t understand the dialogue. Turns out, it was just Nolan.
When the main character of your story is named "the protagonist" it means one thing and one thing only...
You are not finished writing your story.
Does it? Edward Norton in the Fight Club didn't have a name.
@@Ninjimdo Yeah, he did. He just didn't know it until near the end.
@@mrdean2539 he's "named" jack to represent the everyman, including the script, but that doesn't mean it's his real name. also, the name The Protagonist, fits in this movie because he's supposed to be an unknown spy
@@user-pd2zs4my6p First off, please learn how to separate out your thoughts when you write. I had to reread your message several times because it sounded absolutely idiotic.
In Fight Club, the script identifies the narrator as Jack, this is true and Wikipedia does say that this was to relate as the everyman. However, the only real person that comes out of the entire thing is Tyler, the composite left behind when the narrator metaphorically kills his extreme alter ego and himself.
As for Tenet, I haven't seen it other than the portions shown here and some of the trailers. That's why I didn't make an assumption about the character's name. I would say that, based on what I have seen and heard here and elsewhere, that your take on the meaning behind the character's name is simplistic at best. No offense.
@@mrdean2539 @Mr Dean first off it's not THAT serious. i really don't want to write an essay on a damn youtube comment section, and if you had to reread a sentence more than once to understand what i mean, that's on you. secondly, his name is NOT tyler durden. if you think that is his name, that's your interpretation, so you don't have to get so heated. here's what wiki has to say about the narrator (based off the novel if you really want to get that deep):
"The Narrator does not have a name in the novel, yet is often referred to as "Joe," due to his quotes such as "I am Joe's [blank]". These quotes refer to the Narrator's reading old Reader's Digest articles in which human organs write about themselves in first-person perspective."
and sure, my meaning re the protagonist name may be simplistic. but nolan describes the movie as an homage to spy films he grew up with. and if spies are meant to be unknown, why would it be so far off to assume that Nolan didn't want to give him a specific name?
just FYI, it's not that hard to be a dick even if you're anonymous. i literally said nothing to offend you lol
Micheal Caine : Yes
Nolan: So I'm making a new movie...
Already an underrated comment. Or not yet...
Nolan: I'll need a new soundtrack
Zimmer: Bhwaaam!
Well played.
Michael Cain: seY
@@Ya_Mosura Zimmer actually didn't compose this soundtrack.
Yes. Ironically this film achieved its own form of “inversion” on me - I was entertained by the concept and impressed with the visuals whilst simultaneously being irritated by its arrogance and at times embarrassed by its clumsiness. So I loved it and hated it at the same time, ultimately these cancelled each other out leaving me with a final judgment of... “It was... okayyyyy”. Pattinson is cool he was the easily the best bit. I’m glad you mentioned the muffled dialogue - I was wondering if the hearing part of my brain was failing!
Brilliant, balanced analysis of this film. When I came out the Cinema I thought some of the same things (grandiose and pretentious narrative structure and visual themes at the expense of the basics of what makes a film memorable) but the sheer effort put into this film just makes me want to watch it again and again.
So basically this review could have simply been "It's another Christopher Nolan movie." Got it, thanks.
I'll leave a like, and move on then.
Yep if you're a fan of his movies or just cinema with weird plot and convoluted structure then it's perfect.
After watching it twice I think it's my favourite of all Nolan's films.
I also see that Drinker got some little bits slightly wrong (or just off), but I also couldn't grasp everything during my first watch.
@Brian Babin Same. Memento, Insomnia, and The Prestige are all fine films and I enjoy them. His "big brain" stuff, however, always comes across as pretentious and complicated. Those films purport depth that simply isn't there and then gloss over the issue with a sheen of spectacle.
Imo the mistakes he makes here are far worse.
The third act KILLED my neurons .They were overloaded.
@@filippians413 disaster? This movie was great it's one of Nolan's best movies
I like Nolan's ambition for making very "complex" and unique movies , but Tenet was another one of their films that I didn't know what the hell was happening!
'Because it was so complex and unique, you just didn't understand it!'
@@manwithnoname8229 that's what I said
@@fabithierry I was being sarcastic lol
I honestly think his entire thing is that the movie wont make 100% sense to almost anyone unless you watch it multiple times. Which like....whatever, im fine with it because its different from most movies where the writers act like everyone in the audience is a retarded 5 year old, having an over simplified story and explaining everything that was already implied.
Same dude, 30 mins in and i was totally lost 😂
I saw this movie in theaters with my girlfriend at the time, because it was the only movie playing at the theater during COVID. At the end of it we both walked out like "Wait. What did we even just watch?"
Tbh this is default Nolan... most of his films are technically impressive with bland characters. I will say that I liked Interstellar more than the others mainly because the movie does spend time on developing the father daughter relationship, which keeps the emotional core stable throughout the film.
I love Interstellar but I cant deny it has a lot of plot holes
@@meris8486 Yeah I think a lot of his films do. But in Interstellar's case it's a little more forgivable because there's more to care about than just plot.
Ukraine. The opening scene was in Ukraine. And I was more than surprised that none of the locals paid attention to the dark-skinned special forces in Ukraine
right?
chocolate hlopetz
This was a CIA (USA) backed mission in the Ukraine, nothing wrong there
The group wasn't Ukrainian- he stated clearly it was a CIA-SOF. AKA, the group was an American group.
@@Boriqua76
Still sounds like a Soviet era anecdote
Imagine a Christopher Nolan film where the main characters travel out into space where time moves a lot slower than on Earth and then they try to perform inception on somebody whilst being inverted.
Neal Stephenson called, he wants his Hiro back.
Just what I thought. Hiro Protagonist is a real hero protagonist.
One part of me would really love to see a big-budget film adaption of Snow Crash, but the more rational part of me knows that present-day Hollywood would almost certainly ruin it.
@@emu4286 I hate that James Gandolfini is dead, I would have liked him as Uncle Enzo.
Christopher Nolan did actually have a name for the protagonist, but thought it was too obvious:
Token Hacerire
Drinker: “It reminds me of Rise of Skywalker, and not in a good way.”
Viewers: “In what universe would something reminding you of Rise of Skywalker be a good thing?!”
But seriously, I agree with your review. The half of it I could follow I overall enjoyed, but the other half either had me bored or too confused to care what was going on.
For me at least, the film made a lot more sense on a second watch and was more enjoyable.
In a universe where Colin Trevarow directed the rise of skywalker.
The only way it would happen is if he's watching a bad movie that goes out of its way to shit on a worse movie.
it got some cool scenes, I went into the cinema expecting to hate it but I left pretty satisfied.
I think hating on Rise of Skywalker is just mainstream trend
One of my biggest problems I had with this was that it just introduced so many people so quickly without giving names to any of them that I couldn’t remember who I had even seen before for the first half of the movie
Yeah, i was already losing interest in the plot at that point. You have no idea who the protagonist is, like does he have a familiy? Where does he come from? Why is he in the specialforces? We don't know so it's hard for me to really care about him. And then the plot introduces one guy after the other, and travel to one place after another + there is a quick rundown of inversion AND you are introduced to Tenet. It's just way too much too fast, and at that point i'm really struggling to stay invested in the plot.
@@GrNen yeah. And the fact that half the characters, including the protagonist, have basically no personality. They’re just devices to mode the plot along
The target audience could follow along just fine. I for one am very happy it wasnt dumbed down for the mindless viewers who need their hand helped and cant think for themselves
@@ShinzoX90 what do you think you’re accomplishing by trying to insult my intelligence? Try to make yourself feel smart? For your information, I could follow along with the time reversal part just fine, and enjoyed it quite a bit. I just had trouble remembering any of the characters because of their lack of personality. I love the different science fiction scenarios of many movies, including Interstellar and Inception, I just would like to also have memorable characters that actually get me invested in the story, along with thinking about how the time stuff works.
@@brandonm1708 lmfao did not read
Tenet is like a excellent science video that lasts for 2 and a half hours done with professional editing and good filmmaking in general
So wait..... Neil spend 10 years of his life moving forward to study physics and then another 10 to get backwards so that we can see him in the movie? And he is not absolutely mad?
When Michael Caine showed up and they called him Sir Michael I felt like I was watching a parody
@Rodycaz
Cheers bro
@Alex Davila yeah, he's just the white Morgan Freeman for me, been playing the same guy in every film for the last 30+ years.
@@jedaaa Haha spot on
See also.
We live in a Twilight World.
This film is really into in jokes.
"Represents Nolan's worst tendencies as a filmmaker" Ah what a true and beautiful statement that is.
It has its shortcomings but still Tenet is a hell of a movie with a unique story and overall work that you just dont get much of anymore 10/10
I'm all for big-brain, compelling, deep characters and plots.
But this just sounds confusing
no deep characters here im afraid.
im sure if u watched the movie u would understand the plot but really there is no progress in the movie, the best i can put it is, your basically given aload of mysteries i guess - things which u think "why?", and then nolan takes u through everything that happens and answers those mysteries. I can't explain it well without giving away the plot
It is. Half-way down the movie I just stopped caring what was going on
i actually get it on the first watch....but still i fking hate how rush the world building..this should at least need a x2 movies at least.
@LTNetjak You have to pretend that Chris Nolan is so clever that you have to re-watch the movie, because it is that complex. Bollocks. It's not even on par with one of Steve Moffat's "I am so dreadfully clever" _Doctor Who_ plots and structures, but with DOOOOOOOOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM soundtrack
@XxDanSoloxX Chris Nolan is the Elon Musk of cinema. Movie Bros have to worship him, even though it is slapped together from other tech (old NASA tech with cool iPads!) or plots (hey, what do you get if you slap together the Captain Kirk failed _Jack Ryan_ reboot with Daddy Washington's _Deja Vu_ , literally the car chase from _Matrix Reloaded_ but with a _Rewind_ button instead of _Bullet Time_ and any given _Nu Bond_ tedious talk scenes? This movie). It is the last Nolan movie I will ever see. He is getting more pretentious and empty with every new movie
Sounds like an attempt to repeat Inception- with actual repeating.
Reception?
@@theanachronist9125 Yeah might end up being a poor reception
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 just wind it back to preception and try again
PERception
The Drinker's description made me think of Wanted, but curving time rather than bullets. But the Inception/Tenet comparison makes sense, is this dream/going to be rewound is a close parallel.
Your assessment of movies seems to generally match my opinion, and Tenet seems another match. I just watched this last night with my wife, and my wife had tuned out by the end of the movie, and I kept at it, hoping to be drawn in by some event that eventually sewed everything together. This didn't seem to occur, at least not to my level of intellect, I guess. ;) It was fun to look at, interesting in spots, but I found myself watching something that just didn't gel and make me invest my interest and emotion into it. A handful of scenes were quite cool visually, but I never really bought into the reverse time and how it was being integrated into the story. And that red/blue soldiers battle at the end just seemed like a bunch of guys running around shooting things you never actually saw shooting back. Felt like some kind of 'marvel cgi mess' where 1000s of characters who meant nothing were fighting battles that didn't matter.
9:36 "But it stands out more as an impressive technical achievement, rather than a gripping story that you care about." Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: the career of Christopher Nolan.
That’s not true of his career though. All three Batman’s were pretty riveting in the way they told the story and set up the characters, hell you even end up liking the joker (partly because of ledgers acting, but also partly because of what that specific joker represented compared to the other antagonist in the movie) the prestige was also an amazing story with great characters in Bale and Jackman’s two feuding magicians, interstellar had great character development, shit even inception did even though the movie was more centered around “great technical achievement” but just about every single character in that movie was great and the overall story was actually incredible.
I was just about to take a dump, so this is perfectly timed.
Finally, a comment
Same, oh the timing.
lmao