This really is the best, two dads and their son talk about things they only sort of heard about. This is everything I want in a podcast. Please keep it up gentlemen.
However Lewis is wrong, the problem is that beer needs to be pressurized to remain carbonated, so beer in a bag would go flat, it would drain just fun.
To be clearer, the reason why it needs to be pressurized is because otherwise the co2 will dissolve into the liquid and it will lose carbonation at a normal pressure
The main reason why there won’t be beer in a bag is because the thing that keeps drinks carbonated is pressure. CO2 is dissolved in the liquid but in order to dissolve lots the liquid and gas need to be pressurised. When you open a can/ bottle the pressure in the bottle drops to the atmospheric pressure and so some of the gas escapes the liquid as now it can only dissolve less gas. This means that if you use a bag it would have to be able to survive the same internal pressures as a can or bottle but bags normally aren’t as strong as these.
I was quite surprised that Lewis couldn't figure this one out seeming as he has a (if I remember correctly) degree in chemistry and that it's quite basic in the terms of equilibriums and pressure.
Kirra Peterson yh 😂 I was thinking the same thing but I guess he must have emptied that part of his memory to make space for more important things like the stuff they discuss on simon’s peculiar portions
It doesn't have to do with the bag being able to cope with the pressure, but the bag, being flexible, would have to be perfectly round to maintain the pressure. If not, it would simply become found, dropping the pressure and releasing the dissolved carbon. This means that a bag of fizzy drink would not not only be larger than a botte, but it would not have any properties you'd typically associate with a bag, like being able to deform it. This makes it pretty useless and impractical.
So about Canals and Locks: Canals are made to be as flat as possible to reduce the current to a bare minimum, making it easy to travel both ways. Sadly, landscapes are not flat, so Locks are made in order to connect canals at different heights. Locks consist of an empty space between two watertight gates. In each gate there is a valve that is used to let water through at a controlled rate. Thuss the empty space can be filled with water until it is level with either the top or bottom canal. In order to lift a boat up, you start with a Lock level with the lower canal, let the boat in and close the gate. Then the valves in the upper gate is opened to fill the Lock until level with the upper canal, then you can open the gate. The water does all the heavy lifting. It is a great piece of engineering that only became obsolete because trains turned out to be very fast once they were invented.
As someone who works at tandom winery/brewery.. head winemaker says yes it would burst and there are just better safer ways to do carbonated beverages.
You could probably package beer in a bag. The problem is that it would likely be absurdly expensive for a few reasons. One is that you'd have to design a bag that doesn't fail along some grain boundary, as most if not all plastics are notorious for asymmetric strength. So it would probably have to be layered like a composite and may or may not need to be bound. Then you have to deal with transportation, since it's a high pressure object and a thin film, it would be expensive/complicated to transport in such a way that they wouldn't be damaged. After all this, you would have a spherical bag of beer, like a mini keg. But also there is the problem where gases can permeate some plastics slowly (mainly concerning because of the internal pressure). So without some more engineering you could suffer flatness if on the shelves too long.
You can get beer in bags. Loads of brewery shops sell them with beer straight from the cask. The bag does tend to make the beer go flat very quickly though.
Holy shit I didn't realize last time I listened to this but I remember watching that show with Ms. Bucket as a kid! You guys bring the memories flooding back
You can buy propoer beer in polypiins, they hold 10 or 20 litres, they will keep the beer drinkable for three or 4 days when open. Normally bought straight froim the brewery. Box with a plastic container inside.
@@uplockkk Nah, Pflax said it was up to 100f (38C), and remember that most places in the UK don't have AC, which us very bizzare but that's the way it is.
@@gajbooks Where I live I've conditioned myself to be able to wear a hoodie in up to 103F. Mainly to protect myself from burning 'cause I'm a white man with white man problems.
@@armchairphilosopher6880 It doesn't often get super hot here, but when it does it's not the daytime which is the issue, it's the nights. Daytime you can rub cold water on your face, go for a swim if you can, cold drinks, etc. At night, you're stuck on a pillow made of fabric. My parents don't have AC and when I lived with them the nights were the worst. I wish I had a hammock.
You can't use a bag to store carbonated liquids because it would rupture very easily. The reason why cans and bottles don't rupture so easily is because they are cylinders which distribute the pressure more evenly. Ideally it would be stored in a sphere, but they can't be stacked or placed upright as easily
The reason Tesla is going to be the top company in electric cars is the technology. They're going full in in the research part of electric cars where other companies that already make petrol cars don't really go into the research and development as much as they tend just be "following the trend". Tesla also has a massive advantage in the battery market, they're not only developing new battery technology but they also make their own batteries which is the most expensive part of a car which helps keep the cost down compared to other electric cars and still make a profit. They also have a wide network of chargers in many countries that other companies just don't have. Tesla cars are seen as an investment and not just a depreciating asset due to the tech. I'm not an expert, so don't quote me on anything, I just find it interesting :)
Richard Marrow was the person Flax didn't want to mention in a later podcast! He said his surname was a vegetable and then the other two derailed by saying Tony Carrot.
It's velocity over distance. Use a perlick spout which has a conical restrictor for dispensing highly carbonated fluids. Also sips is actually stupid. Like. For real stupid.
Blackberry is very big in Automotive electronics now, their software runs a lot of car electronics now. They're a software and services company, not really hardware anymore.
Oh god bloody Clacton Pier, I lived about 30 minutes away in Colchester before moving away for Uni, was a shit-hole and we all called in Crackton due to the notoriety with drugs but the arcades and beach were alright as a kid.
I see plenty of Teslas in Denmark, most are from the period where there was no registration tax on electric cars making them cheap compared to the normal cost of a Tesla vs any other gas car.
Norway is a huge contributor to purchases in all of Europe when it comes to Tesla. I think this might be partly because of the effort to become purely electric, or people just want to be snobs and show off their fortunes.
I (25) moved out with my gf(27) into a two room top floor flat in the middle of a town, one room is our bedroom and the other is our front room/kitchen. Because of the pressures of space applied to our generation (millenial) we have had arguments about storage. Keeping Dvd cases is not an option, most of our books are ebooks, we had to throw out half of both our clothes to fit them into the bedroom, we have a fold up small table and the chairs we use for that are also the ones we use for our desk. my gf makes more than the local average and this is what we can afford together. I really feel sorry for those who are coming after us who will have higher property prices than we do.
Pyrion, Tesla bought 2.1Tn of assets in the year, they profited but, AS IS NORMAL FOR NEW GROWING BUSINESSES build up their business. Think of the first year a new venture opens for business. ZERO revenue in the first month because it just opened yesterday. Bought ALL the stock, paid all the insurance etc, bought the building. Current operating profit -5million. Over the first year, 1.6 million in revenue, but the loans need to be paid off, so 150k is paid off for THAT and the debt drawn down by 0.4 million, and therefore zero net profit that year, but still in the hole by -4 million. Same next year, and so on for five years. Zero profit, because the debt is being paid down and that comes off the end of year report. But MOST businesses don't do that. The first year they are at -5 million, second year they put 1 million into growing their business so that instead of earning 1.6 million, they can earn 2 million. That means next year they can put 1.5 million in and increase revenue next year to 2.6 million. It is only when they think they have enough to operate fully that they then pay down the debt. And they only do that so they can get better loan rates and borrow more money. The bank demands 3-5% but your ROI can be 20%. Borrowing from the bank costs you, makes your profit appear zero, but you are net up 17% of what you borrowed each time you increase your borrowing.
I would like to bring KeyKeg to the attention of the Triforce. The beer is inside of e a bag and the container(keg) that its sits in is pressurised to force the beer down the line and into the glass.
Yeah, and the reason they don't put carbonated liquids into a flexible bag is because it would inflate the bag into a friggin sphere, even if it didn't explode.
With the exception of needing to work and having less leisure time, the average middle class American or European today has a higher standard of living that even the wealthiest of monarchs and robber barons a mere hundred years ago.
Tbh, considering that Lewis isnt much of a car guy, i don't think he could appreciate the instant torque from the motors. End of the day, that's the only thing about Teslas that interest me.
Teslas *are* best in class for sedans Pros: -best in class car safety ratings -tax benefits -Instant torque so it has veery quick acceleration -no more stopping at gas stations.. -it can be charged with a 220v at home for great overnight charging -software updates that improve the OS, battery life as well as performance. -Maintenance is brakes,tires, and windshield washer fluid thats it.. no oil changes nothing Maintenance is every 2 years tops. Cons: -build quality: especially the aluminum body panels can get damaged easily.. paint chipping, trim not fitting perfectly etc. -long trips require half hour downtime and plotting around superchargers -no engine noise can be weird and shocking also for enthusiasts like myself I love engine sound so that is a con for me personally. -takes some getting used to driving wise, with the kinetic brake charging
Norway is filled up with teslas. We dont pay taxes on electric cars. Dont know exacly how it is now, but E car owners didnt pay for ferrys, parking and toll roads. They could also drive is buss lanes
@ 11 minutes when they’re talking about who’s buying the Tesla’s, it’s Australians there are so many here now it’s great but we just don’t have the infrastructure for them tho so it sucks
Those are really good teachers, actually. I mean, yes they should have told the kids "don't eat cow shit, you fucking idiots". But... he already did it, so whats the point? It's not like he has a habit of eating shit, so why the fuck would he do it again? No one's going to make that bet again, since he proved he will.
This really is the best, two dads and their son talk about things they only sort of heard about. This is everything I want in a podcast. Please keep it up gentlemen.
Brewis Ginly
So this is why Sips has never been on Twitch Rival's, he keeps turning it down in case a Hitman is waiting to kill him
He got into the fall guys twitch rivals
@@finleyjennings6051 Only a matter of time before the Hitman strikes
"I don't think fizzy stuff comes out of a tap very well"
-Lewis "Never been to a bar/pub" Brindley
@pablo just pablo fizzy soft drinks like coke and pepsi come on tap too.
They also uses gasses for soft drink, you can see the tanks sometimes
However Lewis is wrong, the problem is that beer needs to be pressurized to remain carbonated, so beer in a bag would go flat, it would drain just fun.
To be clearer, the reason why it needs to be pressurized is because otherwise the co2 will dissolve into the liquid and it will lose carbonation at a normal pressure
The main reason why there won’t be beer in a bag is because the thing that keeps drinks carbonated is pressure. CO2 is dissolved in the liquid but in order to dissolve lots the liquid and gas need to be pressurised. When you open a can/ bottle the pressure in the bottle drops to the atmospheric pressure and so some of the gas escapes the liquid as now it can only dissolve less gas. This means that if you use a bag it would have to be able to survive the same internal pressures as a can or bottle but bags normally aren’t as strong as these.
I was quite surprised that Lewis couldn't figure this one out seeming as he has a (if I remember correctly) degree in chemistry and that it's quite basic in the terms of equilibriums and pressure.
Kirra Peterson yh 😂 I was thinking the same thing but I guess he must have emptied that part of his memory to make space for more important things like the stuff they discuss on simon’s peculiar portions
eli5: soda/beer go boom. can/bottle strong enough for boom, bag not
You can get it. Just the beer goes flat very fast. Not such a problem with ales.
It doesn't have to do with the bag being able to cope with the pressure, but the bag, being flexible, would have to be perfectly round to maintain the pressure. If not, it would simply become found, dropping the pressure and releasing the dissolved carbon.
This means that a bag of fizzy drink would not not only be larger than a botte, but it would not have any properties you'd typically associate with a bag, like being able to deform it. This makes it pretty useless and impractical.
Pyrion: *just finished story where he says he went through locks*
Lewis: "so idk if you have ever been through locks, but..."
So about Canals and Locks:
Canals are made to be as flat as possible to reduce the current to a bare minimum, making it easy to travel both ways. Sadly, landscapes are not flat, so Locks are made in order to connect canals at different heights.
Locks consist of an empty space between two watertight gates. In each gate there is a valve that is used to let water through at a controlled rate. Thuss the empty space can be filled with water until it is level with either the top or bottom canal.
In order to lift a boat up, you start with a Lock level with the lower canal, let the boat in and close the gate. Then the valves in the upper gate is opened to fill the Lock until level with the upper canal, then you can open the gate.
The water does all the heavy lifting. It is a great piece of engineering that only became obsolete because trains turned out to be very fast once they were invented.
"My dog, my poor old doggo, she was suffering"
"OH YEAH How is your dad?"
Keeping up appearances is brilliant, far funnier than One foot in the grave.
Ugh I needed this to get through the rest of my 9-5. Cheers lads
Best of luck to ya today brother same here
@@sleezus1 You got this!
@@Kaizure_ thank you! 💪
We got this brothers. Regards from Asia
@Jacob Carson We are all enjoying it together brother!
Sips really talking about keeping up appearances made my day ngl
For some reason the electrician asking "why?" about it being a shame cracked me up. It's a good question I guess.
I wonder if he thought pyrion mean that it was “shameful”, like as if pyrion was ashamed of himself for letting that part break
In terms of Teslas on the road in the UK, I had one as an Uber in North London. It was pretty cool tbf
Hitman 2 really did effect ole Sips, huh
i'm an american and lived in some really rough places crime wise. hearing sips, you'd think he was an american.
Wine bags do not let air in. The bag just compresses. That’s the point of the bag. It can condense.
I. Love. This. Podcast. I just stumbled upon this episode and it is absolute gold. My goodness.
about the wine in a bag thing in my humble opinion i think its a carbonation problem because you can't get champagne in a bag
As someone who works at tandom winery/brewery.. head winemaker says yes it would burst and there are just better safer ways to do carbonated beverages.
Man this one really made me question Sip's sanity
You could probably package beer in a bag. The problem is that it would likely be absurdly expensive for a few reasons. One is that you'd have to design a bag that doesn't fail along some grain boundary, as most if not all plastics are notorious for asymmetric strength. So it would probably have to be layered like a composite and may or may not need to be bound. Then you have to deal with transportation, since it's a high pressure object and a thin film, it would be expensive/complicated to transport in such a way that they wouldn't be damaged. After all this, you would have a spherical bag of beer, like a mini keg. But also there is the problem where gases can permeate some plastics slowly (mainly concerning because of the internal pressure). So without some more engineering you could suffer flatness if on the shelves too long.
A key keg is sort of carbonated beer in a bag, but it's very specialised. You can get ale on a bag no problem.
You can get beer in bags. Loads of brewery shops sell them with beer straight from the cask. The bag does tend to make the beer go flat very quickly though.
20:57 Oh cool, this is the beginning of Pyrion starting Golf
Holy shit I didn't realize last time I listened to this but I remember watching that show with Ms. Bucket as a kid! You guys bring the memories flooding back
ol' don't poop in my house is definitely getting assassinated, I can tell.
Heat wave back in London boiks...26 degrees wohoo
You can buy propoer beer in polypiins, they hold 10 or 20 litres, they will keep the beer drinkable for three or 4 days when open. Normally bought straight froim the brewery. Box with a plastic container inside.
If you prefer hot to cold you don't know the true hottest heat, humid heat with no wind
They're British. Hottest weather they know is probably "cloudy".
@@uplockkk Nah, Pflax said it was up to 100f (38C), and remember that most places in the UK don't have AC, which us very bizzare but that's the way it is.
gajbooks absolutely ridiculous i bought my own AC when i moved here and it's saved my life
@@gajbooks Where I live I've conditioned myself to be able to wear a hoodie in up to 103F. Mainly to protect myself from burning 'cause I'm a white man with white man problems.
@@armchairphilosopher6880 It doesn't often get super hot here, but when it does it's not the daytime which is the issue, it's the nights. Daytime you can rub cold water on your face, go for a swim if you can, cold drinks, etc. At night, you're stuck on a pillow made of fabric. My parents don't have AC and when I lived with them the nights were the worst. I wish I had a hammock.
I don't know why Lewis thinks that Elon musk didn't name his kid that
Re-listening to this a year later is something else 🤣
You can't use a bag to store carbonated liquids because it would rupture very easily. The reason why cans and bottles don't rupture so easily is because they are cylinders which distribute the pressure more evenly. Ideally it would be stored in a sphere, but they can't be stacked or placed upright as easily
The reason Tesla is going to be the top company in electric cars is the technology. They're going full in in the research part of electric cars where other companies that already make petrol cars don't really go into the research and development as much as they tend just be "following the trend". Tesla also has a massive advantage in the battery market, they're not only developing new battery technology but they also make their own batteries which is the most expensive part of a car which helps keep the cost down compared to other electric cars and still make a profit. They also have a wide network of chargers in many countries that other companies just don't have.
Tesla cars are seen as an investment and not just a depreciating asset due to the tech.
I'm not an expert, so don't quote me on anything, I just find it interesting :)
Shoutout to the Bulgarian oven technicians in London!
You can get beer in a bag in a lot of Asian countries. However, it's not stored, it's bagged on order.
They can and do put carbonated drinks in a bag... as syrup which is then mixed with carbonated soda water.
Lewis "There's a subreddit for that..." Brindley.
Golf is a great sport and a lot of people dont give it a try. They just watch it and think it sucks. Very chill and fun you will like it Flax
Sips is my type of guy to hang out with. *SOME ODB AND RZA PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE WE SMOKE SOME DOOOBIES OUT HERE IN LA*
Richard Marrow was the person Flax didn't want to mention in a later podcast! He said his surname was a vegetable and then the other two derailed by saying Tony Carrot.
Speaking as someone who lives in a coastal town in California where half the houses go got over 2mil there are a lot of teslas here
It's velocity over distance. Use a perlick spout which has a conical restrictor for dispensing highly carbonated fluids.
Also sips is actually stupid. Like. For real stupid.
And the sky is blue. What's new about that?
More of these longer ones nice work lads
Ducking love this
Soo glad P Flax knew better than to say that things are the same as they were back in the medieval times
Beginning of September
Lewis: winter is here
I still use a BlackBerry KeyOne and I love it
Blackberry is very big in Automotive electronics now, their software runs a lot of car electronics now. They're a software and services company, not really hardware anymore.
Thank you for this, I make the least plumbing mistakes whilst listening to Triforce.
I'm so sorry for all the fittings you have to replace. It's hard these days. Those fittings are such valuable items. It's just a shame.
1 hour and 13mins? Christmas came early!
Oh god bloody Clacton Pier, I lived about 30 minutes away in Colchester before moving away for Uni, was a shit-hole and we all called in Crackton due to the notoriety with drugs but the arcades and beach were alright as a kid.
The carbonation can evaporate through the plastic. Carbonated water will go flat in a plastic bottle given enough time.
I see plenty of Teslas in Denmark, most are from the period where there was no registration tax on electric cars making them cheap compared to the normal cost of a Tesla vs any other gas car.
Only Fools and Horses is the best sitcome ever made.
Norway is a huge contributor to purchases in all of Europe when it comes to Tesla.
I think this might be partly because of the effort to become purely electric, or people just want to be snobs and show off their fortunes.
it's a bit of both yeah?
I (25) moved out with my gf(27) into a two room top floor flat in the middle of a town, one room is our bedroom and the other is our front room/kitchen. Because of the pressures of space applied to our generation (millenial) we have had arguments about storage. Keeping Dvd cases is not an option, most of our books are ebooks, we had to throw out half of both our clothes to fit them into the bedroom, we have a fold up small table and the chairs we use for that are also the ones we use for our desk. my gf makes more than the local average and this is what we can afford together. I really feel sorry for those who are coming after us who will have higher property prices than we do.
I suck at golf but I still play every week who cares about scores and all that bs
At around 50 minutes every podcast Lewis starts trying to force callbacks 😂 it's gold
"You already gave it out once, how many times can you give it away?" - The man who gave his bank information out on a live stream
Had a really shitty week and got a refusal for a university I wanted to go today. Thanks for cheering me up guys :)
Reminder for future self 35.46
Pyrion, Tesla bought 2.1Tn of assets in the year, they profited but, AS IS NORMAL FOR NEW GROWING BUSINESSES build up their business. Think of the first year a new venture opens for business. ZERO revenue in the first month because it just opened yesterday. Bought ALL the stock, paid all the insurance etc, bought the building. Current operating profit -5million. Over the first year, 1.6 million in revenue, but the loans need to be paid off, so 150k is paid off for THAT and the debt drawn down by 0.4 million, and therefore zero net profit that year, but still in the hole by -4 million. Same next year, and so on for five years. Zero profit, because the debt is being paid down and that comes off the end of year report. But MOST businesses don't do that. The first year they are at -5 million, second year they put 1 million into growing their business so that instead of earning 1.6 million, they can earn 2 million. That means next year they can put 1.5 million in and increase revenue next year to 2.6 million. It is only when they think they have enough to operate fully that they then pay down the debt. And they only do that so they can get better loan rates and borrow more money.
The bank demands 3-5% but your ROI can be 20%. Borrowing from the bank costs you, makes your profit appear zero, but you are net up 17% of what you borrowed each time you increase your borrowing.
Have u seen in norway, its like every 15 car is a tesla...
I would like to bring KeyKeg to the attention of the Triforce. The beer is inside of e a bag and the container(keg) that its sits in is pressurised to force the beer down the line and into the glass.
Yeah, and the reason they don't put carbonated liquids into a flexible bag is because it would inflate the bag into a friggin sphere, even if it didn't explode.
I'm getting Ivan from Game Grumps Flashbacks
'Tis Big Bird, Bang , oh no baby Birds'
'Ivan thats a Plane'
'Ivan eating good tonight'
This one was a good one
Fuckin intro gets me LIT
Nice one lads
there are a fair amount of teslas in Scandinavia
take a shot everytime sips says Like
With the exception of needing to work and having less leisure time, the average middle class American or European today has a higher standard of living that even the wealthiest of monarchs and robber barons a mere hundred years ago.
At least that confirms that they know that Bulgaria exists I guess haha
Lewis doesnt like how fiddly crusader kings is but likes table top sim 🤔 makes sense i guess
WOOHOO!!!!
There are Teslas all over Norway
Just thinking that - they are making fun of Last of the Summer Wine but the irony is that to the youth of today, they are those old men!
Tbh, considering that Lewis isnt much of a car guy, i don't think he could appreciate the instant torque from the motors.
End of the day, that's the only thing about Teslas that interest me.
In this episode, the lads realize capitalism is feudalism with extra steps
0.5 playback speed for ultra boomer mode ahahahahaha
Has Pyrion never heard of Magna Carta
I think not nor does it seem that he understands the Kings aren't really all-powerful
Bro my teachers for phys ed did archery
teslas are very popular in norway
Wasn't Elon removed from his own company?
Installs new oven from competition
Back in van
Activate the nerve gas comrade
Aye Comrade
*Mission Accomplished*
Lol must be the spies in the spy house
Sips has been playing too much hitman 2
Did Pyrion go to the Inbetweeners school? It's sounds insane!
Why does Lewis always interrupt P Flax
Teslas *are* best in class for sedans
Pros:
-best in class car safety ratings
-tax benefits
-Instant torque so it has veery quick acceleration
-no more stopping at gas stations..
-it can be charged with a 220v at home for great overnight charging
-software updates that improve the OS, battery life as well as performance.
-Maintenance is brakes,tires, and windshield washer fluid thats it.. no oil changes nothing Maintenance is every 2 years tops.
Cons:
-build quality: especially the aluminum body panels can get damaged easily.. paint chipping, trim not fitting perfectly etc.
-long trips require half hour downtime and plotting around superchargers
-no engine noise can be weird and shocking also for enthusiasts like myself I love engine sound so that is a con for me personally.
-takes some getting used to driving wise, with the kinetic brake charging
Tesla's are not a rare sight in the Netherlands
Can really see pyrions old man when he talks about Tesla
Norway is filled up with teslas. We dont pay taxes on electric cars. Dont know exacly how it is now, but E car owners didnt pay for ferrys, parking and toll roads. They could also drive is buss lanes
are we just gunna gloss over flax's words at 11:40 they shouldnt wind back the clocks ahahahah
How many likes does sips say per day?
@ 11 minutes when they’re talking about who’s buying the Tesla’s, it’s Australians there are so many here now it’s great but we just don’t have the infrastructure for them tho so it sucks
Anyone else laugh at massive tracts of land?
I watched last of the summer wine and I'm younger than you lot
These always end too soon
Elon Musk is famous for being a hard worker Lewis 😂.
You can get take-away TsingTao beer in a plastic bag in China. YW....
how would the triforce boys know wha being a pesant is like, they get sponsor deals
Mr Canada sips and pyrion are old enough to remember being peasants in the 1500s
Those are really good teachers, actually. I mean, yes they should have told the kids "don't eat cow shit, you fucking idiots". But... he already did it, so whats the point? It's not like he has a habit of eating shit, so why the fuck would he do it again? No one's going to make that bet again, since he proved he will.