Venus isn't evil, it's a survivor. Wanted an atmosphere like Earth, but didn't have a magnetosphere, she made it heavy. Wanted rain, but didn't have water, she rained sulfuric acid. At least Venus tries.
No, that's all bullshxt. The acid rain isn't much worse than the acid rain on earth. And the atmosphere can't be heavier than Earth's because it has no protection nor greater gravity than earth. It's all BS. Even if the atmosphere was made of uranium atoms it could not be 92x the pressure of nitrogen+oxygen.
CO2 is a trivial greenhouse gas, inconsequential. The greenhouse gas of a greenhouse is water vapor, not CO2. RUclips is crammed with nonsense science by people that know nothing about science.
Venus is, truly, an absolutely awful place. Honestly the Russians successfully landing a probe and getting pictures and data back was an underrated engineering accomplishment, just a phenomenal achievement.
Don't worry. It's not underrated. Something with that much brute strength and resistance, enough to survive on frickin' Venus was a crowning technological achievement by the Soviets, recognized the world over. It's still pretty much the only non-Mars probe taught in Earth/Space sciences in schools anymore. Venera 8 did it again, lasting about 50 minutes, so roughly twice as long. I think it was Venera 8 that discovered the minerals on Venus's surface that's very common in middle-ish depths of Earth's oceans. It might also have been the one to record the very first lightning strike seen on the planet.
It just means the poles flipped. That's not actually that unusual even in the solar system. If it orbited the other way, yeah, that would be incredible.
@@ilarious5729 Megaprojects video on his beard, either Geographics or Into the Shadows for the Blazement, Danny needs his own Biographics video, and a Top Tenz where every entry is Simon Whistler
Venus has long been an underrated planet in my opinion. Whether there's life in its clouds or not, it can still teach us so much about how wrong things can go for a terrestrial planet.
@@mikemoore9092 That would be quite the mega project. There are a few videos you can look up that break don just how ridiculously difficult building a planetary sun shade would be. Also, Venus is closer to the sun, meaning even if it WAS teraformed, it would require constant re-teraforming to keep it cool. Plus as the Sun expands and gets brighter, Venus will be right in the path of destruction. One COULD try to push its orbit further out...but again, monumental task.
Venus doesnt have any evidence of tectonic activity so the volcanic activity is released when a large amount of pressure is there and the volcanos, quite literally, bust their tops open and go on for a long time until the crust heals. So the possibility of a large impactor, maybe mars size like with what hit Earth, could've caused a global mass eruption for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years.
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@@kepler656 the people who want to go back to that moment specifically. What a sad comment. I hope you’re doing better today then you were when you typed this. Get better dude
Had the opportunity to work on Venus during the Magellan Mission, mapping the surface along one of the better Pioneer Venus gravity lines. I still have my original hand drawn maps somewhere in the house. I’m surprised some of your graphics show much more cratering on the surface than there should be. As for the big difference, I think it is the Moon. The impact that created our Moon also sped the rotation of the Earth so that it is today a little over 200 times faster than Venus. After the impact we were rotating up to 4 times faster than today. Interestingly when you look at the Magnetic Field of Venus it’s approximately 200 times weaker than the Earth’s Magnetic Field. Without some sort of impact vent to rev up the rotation of the planet it was stuck with a weak magnetic field, and days so long that surface temperatures were able to quickly sore and cause a run away greenhouse affect. Additionally, I hypothesize Earth Style Plate Tectonics needs a massive impact event to create the necessary conditions to allow the convection within the resulting magma/lava ocean to evolve into what we now know as plate tectonics. This would also have aided in starting a carbon cycle capable of locking CO2 into carbonate rocks, much like appears to have happened on Earth after the Moon Forming Event.
I believe that the mix of the opposite charge metal core from the planet that collided with earth to create the moon gave our planet a massive power up to the mag field. I dont see anything else having that would have such an great effect on our core, as to adding the core of a small planetoid.
@@jjl1979jjl I remember working up a formula while sitting in a geophysics class where I worked out a mathematical correlation based on planet density, core rotation velocity (or rotational velocity of the planet if the core velocity is not known), and planet size. I did not include the outer planets, so with only four data points I did not feel that I had enough to work with… kinda wish I had those notes now.
Whatever the cause of our much greater magnetic field, I have long thought that it was the real critical difference. Of course, it helps to shield Earth from solar wind and gamma radiation, but in my mind more critical is that it acts as an enormous net, catching hydrogen from the solar wind (in the form of protons and electrons, which can then associate into hydrogen), allowing the reactions dependent on hydrogen, especially formation of water. The reaction cross-section of Earth to charged particles should be thousands or millions of rimes greater than Venus, capturing enough light volatile elements, particularly hydrogen, for this to be a water-coated world.
Notably, there's an altitude band in the clouds that might be pretty decent for human habitation. Altitudes at which temperatures are comfortable are going to be a bit low on the pressure, but still high enough to run a comfortable oxygen-nitrogen mix without drastic increase of a fire risk. There is also less sulfuric acid at these altitudes, which while still extremely corrosive to metals, opens up a door to construction from certain kinds of plastics or metals coated in plastics. Comfortable Earth-like gravity, comfortable temperatures, and equalized pressure means that a simple and light habitat construction can be suspended by balloons. Since there is no significant pressure difference, any breach would not be an immediate danger, possibly fixable with some duct tape, and even if you have to go outside briefly in an emergency, you can survive by just holding your breath - though, you'll need shower immediately afterwards to get rid of the acid. Still, way better than Mars, where you'll be dead within seconds. The wind speeds are very high at that altitude, but they are non-turbulent, so you're just carried with the clouds at high speeds. Around equator, it would also give you a very reasonable day-night cycle as you circumnavigate Venus. There is enough sunlight reaching these altitudes to power solar panels and grow plants, and you can extract sulfuric acid to process into water and use it to grow algae for air, nutrition, and even to process into fuel and plastics. If you can find a way to collect minerals from the surface and lift them to the station via balloons, this place could be entirely self-reliant. All in all, not the worst place to set up a colony.
I'd prefer living on or above mars. If you can't get to the surface of the planet to explore and mine for minerals etc, there's little point in living there. It would be a lot of effort for very little reward.
@@another3997 Living on the surface of Mars is absolutely pointless. You get no protection from radiation and atmosphere is thin enough to be same as vacuum for our bodies, meaning the shelter has to be built same as if you were building for deep space, but also sturdy enough to withstand getting blasted by sand all the time. The gravity is too weak for human health, but strong enough to hinder mobility. Same problem with atmosphere - it's too thin for any benefits, but thick enough to hinder rocket ascent and having to deal with weather. Even landing on parachutes isn't viable there, and that's the only good thing the atmosphere does for you getting onto a planet. If you are interested in mining for minerals, you're better off finding a large asteroid and living in an orbital station with centrifugal gravity. No toxic dust, no sand storms, Earth-like gravity in the habitat, while you still get to enjoy convenience of zero g and absolute vacuum for any industrial work. We might get something out of a science outpost on Mars, but a Martian colony is among the worst ideas one can come up with. The only place that might be worse is Jupiter's clouds due to very high gravity. Absolutely every other place in the Solar System is better for human habitation than the surface of Mars. Deep underground is another matter - no radiation, no weather, less danger of an air leak. But it's life in the tunnels and you still have to live with gravity that's unhealthily low. We don't know how bad it is for human health - it might be possible to adjust, but it's not comfortable living. I can't think of any reason to subject yourself to that when there are other options in Sol.
@@another3997 , One doesn't just float above Venus, they experiment on Venus. How do you think we will eventually get corrosive proof materials? What do you think those acidic substances could be used for, industrial wise? Perhaps we can do some real radical experiments, knowing they won't survive the surface?
Superb as ever. I've always had a thing for Venus, those lander photos are the eeriest thing I've ever seen, then throw in the sound recording of the surface, chilling.
I think he’s got Saturn recorded. Based on the fact that Saturn got brought up in Brain Blaze today where he said he recorded something about Saturn I can only assume it was for this channel… hopefully
I actually paused the video a few minutes before it ended because I was kind of overcome with how neat humans are. I've been feeling very jaded and grumpy lately, because we can be so shitty. But . . . also we make are and explore space, not because we have to, but just because we want to. And it's pretty amazing. And then Simon pretty much summed it up after I pushed play again. I feel a bit better now. That was unexpected.
Videos about Venus intrigues me to no end because, unlike Mars, I do believe the Venusian surface holds the truth to humanity's upbringing on Earth. Venus hold the keys to what Earth was or what it will be. More missions need to be focused on Planet 2
@@resileaf9501 I don't get 70% of the uploads from my subscriptions in my subscriptions tab. Really only get notified if one turns on the notification bell, but then one just gets spammed with notifications. I really wish RUclips had some real competition.
I appreciate that Simon is getting some content recommended to him about cities and what makes for good ones 😂 a couple recent videos had little references. I hope you've found the channel that seems to have started RUclips recommending stuff like it, Not Just Bikes!
A craft shaped like a light bulb or a sphere, made of a ceramic material might be what they're developing. One of those projects that astonish everyone with it's endurance. BTW well done. I enjoyed this much.
I recommend Anton Petrov or Event Horizon for anyone interested in space, amazing videos with so much detail. Especially event horizon has lots of astrophysicists etc as quests. Anton's videos are shorter but very well researched.
Why must everyone always follow up a positive comment with some snarky negative. Just enjoy the content, and get over it. If you don’t like the other types of channels, just ignore them.
To this day my favorite kurzgesagt video is the terraforming Venus video. Realistically, it’s our best chance at becoming at multi-planet species. I hate the fact that I won’t be able to see what we accomplish in the future. Mortality sucks.
I thought the soviets did the best job with Venus. They recorded audio and sent it back to earth, they took panoramic photos, they took sample readings and sent the data back to earth. It was amazing actually hearing what the surface sounded like
I'm so excited for all the Venus probes to check out the planet. I absolutely love learning about space so I've never clicked faster on one of your videos
I think I watch you more than anyone now. I have no idea how u record for all these channels but keep it coming. All the topics are well covered and go deeper than a lot of content on RUclips. Thanks ☺️
I love your presentations! Thankyou so much for compiling and posting them. Silghtly off-topic I know but think of the fun human explorers will have when they finally land on Mars and have ready-made toys in the form of robotic rovers to repair and play with.
At 14.97 psi (say 15 psi) at sea level this atmospheric pressure is equivalent to being 30 m underwater. So if Venus’ atmospheric pressure is the equivalent to being 1.5 km underwater it is 50 times greater than earth’s. Since the Venusian atmosphere is 95 % CO2 we can say that CO2 is solely responsible for the pressure as an “accurate” approximation. Since the mass of Venus is slightly less than earth’s mass, & mass determines gravitational attraction, it is not planetary mass that is causing the high pressure. Since planetary mass positively correlates with the mass of gases that a planet is able retain around itself, and gas temperature negatively correlates with same, Venus’s lesser mass & higher temperature means that it’s atmospheric pressure should be less. The planet is acting as a pressure cooker, which means there has to be a lid. Could it be that heavier gases are above the lighter gases, refusing to mix with them, unable to escape to space, and acting as that lid?
This was written and narrated brilliantly! Bravo to the author and to Simon for capturing a sense of child-like wonder and hope while folding in a touch of wit for good measure
A lot of people don’t realize how small Mars is. Venus would probably be more inhabitable if we could figure out how to create a Bespin style cloud city in the upper atmosphere.
I don't think it's unreasonable to consider that there once was life on Venus. It depends if you believe life finds a way in the right conditions or you think it's insanely rare. Cos both mars and Venus had the right conditions once. Edit: now I hate that I probably have to clarify "life".. I don't mean complex life. I mean simple life. Complex life has gotta be rare. The amount of near complete extinction even earth has had, and that's the most stable thing we know. lol
2:37 - Venus does NOT have a retrograde orbit. It travels in the same direction as the rest of the planets. It does, however ROTATE in the opposite direction. Therefore a sunrise (if it could ever be seen from the surface) would occur in the west and set in the east. But since Venus rotates so slowly its day is longer than its year. It would complete one orbit before a full rotation.
The only thing missing from this episode is how Venus apparently failed to develop plate tectonics, and with it the carbon cycle that usually allows earth to not turn into a furnace.
@@vonfaustien3957 Or Pawn Stars; can't forget the Pawn Stars "I had it appraised; the guy says it's worth ten thousand d-" "I'll give ya twenty bucks for it."
Totally love this comment. It sent my insomniac mind on one of it's little journeys, just kinda dancing in circles around an idea. I scribbled down this alternative (amusing, I think) analogy & came back to share: Venus is the bitter divorcee, moping around in defiant retrograde rotation, swathed in dowdy acid clouds. Standoffish, jaded and pessimistic, curtly rebuffing any attempts at intimacy, they're overly dramatic and no fun at parties. Earth is the flighty one, follower of trends and the latest fads - plate tectonics, ice ages, supercalderas, mass extinctions, you name it, Earth's done it. Always accompanied by a garish moon and, lately, bedazzled with artificial satellites and warbling their weird music across the spectrum. Finally, Mars is the scrappy one, small but fierce; resilient, outspoken, scarred and tattooed. Proud of their bulging southern highlands and prominent shield volcanoes, unashamed of their impact basins, their frantically circling moonlets, their equatorial canyons and outflow channels boldly on display. This is fun! By dawn I'll have probably anthropomorphized the whole solar system.
Mariner 2 is still in a solar orbit around the sun. It's still on the tangential orbit that it took to get to Venus in 1962, but when it crosses its orbit, Venus isn't there. Mariner 2 is also likely still in mint condition although obviously very dead. It also could have been gravitationally tossed into the sun, an asteroid, or deep space. Sometime in the late 21st century, I think it might be cool if some spacecraft somehow came across Mariner 2 and took it to be displayed in a museum on Mars or something.
I always had this sci fi idea that Venus could be the solar systems geothermal power plant where we have cloud cities that have spires holding water down to close to the surface like an upside down water tower where steam would rise up the spire and drive turbine generators and as it condenses and cools it would drip back down the spire in a low pressure port and we would basically have free electricity
while i'm not optimistic in the least bit that venus has life, i am excited for us to learn more about the conditions in the atmosphere at that goldilocks altitude.
I’ve heard the Goldilock zone includes Mars and Venus. That it’s just because of Mars’s small size and Venus’s runaway greenhouse effect that those planets aren’t habitable.
@@kellydalstok8900 there's far far too many variables that go into what actually make a planet habitable, it's very complicated and we won't know more until we get a lot more research done on the histories of these planets. the goldilocks zone is a useful indicator that, hey this planet might have a chance for having liquid water but planets that are just outside could also have the right conditions. if the earth would be shoved to venus' location we would all be baked alive but if the earth's atmosphere became much more reflective then we could carry on as normal, mostly.
While the Da Vinci probe sounds way cool, I'm wondering what parachute material won't dissolve in the acidic atmosphere (and the ropes, for that matter)
Simon, you need to give the Author, Morris M., a staggering raise. Your wheelhouse of Authors is certainly impressive, but this is among the best scripts you’ve been given. Jenn, as always, your attentional to detail and quality is phenomenal. Simon, you continue to improve your gravitas and tempo changes. You also need to give your executive producer more credit, as alas, I know little about you Shannon, and for that I apologize. All around, this is easily the best piece y’all’ve created! Thank you so much!!
At the time of the Chicxulub Impact there were also lots and lots of volcanoes erupting for a decent period of time in India which also contributed, likely, to the Dino's undoing.
With it's similar gravity venus might actually be terraformable, unlike mars. Sure it's covered in acid, but that's something we could theoretically fix or work around. You can't make mars heavier, not without liquefying the surface from dropping mass down there, so cooling some clouds to rain them down to the surface of venus starts to look pretty doable in comparison.
I disagree completely. Gravity could be compensated for by extra weight. Like being in orbit. We can't change clouds or weather or we wouldn't be having these problems on earth. Your comment was theoretically one of the dumbest I've ever read.
Nope. You'd isn't even consider Venus retrograde rotation and slow as a snail rotation. Nor the fact that it has no tectonic plates of significant activity to help it cool down. Venus is death. And that's that.
@@alexandercampbell3386 despite your rudeness and lack of simple biological and meteorological knowledge, I'll still answer you 🤣😄 wearing weights would help with some of your support muscles, but it only slows the problem of low gravity. You can't put weights on your eyeballs, or your veins, or your heart, and those are the bits of you that suffer the most from low gravity. As for the weather bit, it's very simple to cool a planet. Not easy, but simple, they're called sunshades, ultra thin foil satellites that unfold and reflect sunlight away from a planetary surface. Go watch some Isaac Arthur or read anything written on terraforming before making a fool of yourself online bud.
"Si" ( consider that your legit your South African nickname) ,even at 02:46am CAT,you remain a true goat of "how to end a proper epic belated birthday day with a last call and appreciation of a well done video"
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Donner Pass and the Donner Party!!!! Come on please do this!!!
Wish y'all would reply to me telling you, Simon Whistler, your face! Keep up great work
“Shitty” is an understatement but maybe the updates on Venus will reveal plants. Thanks Simon and crew. I’m grateful for the information.
Thank you for reining in the voice. Much more subtle.
Stupid people put in their two-cents.
We put to death 2.3 or so billion microbes with UV-C so you can drink water. We’re nothing
Venus isn't evil, it's a survivor. Wanted an atmosphere like Earth, but didn't have a magnetosphere, she made it heavy. Wanted rain, but didn't have water, she rained sulfuric acid. At least Venus tries.
Unlike mars smh. Got bullied a bit and gave up
@@ArchJ17 lmao agreed
No, that's all bullshxt. The acid rain isn't much worse than the acid rain on earth. And the atmosphere can't be heavier than Earth's because it has no protection nor greater gravity than earth. It's all BS. Even if the atmosphere was made of uranium atoms it could not be 92x the pressure of nitrogen+oxygen.
CO2 is a trivial greenhouse gas, inconsequential. The greenhouse gas of a greenhouse is water vapor, not CO2. RUclips is crammed with nonsense science by people that know nothing about science.
Whoever decided Venus was the goddess of beauty really had no idea just how hot she really is
I see what you did there!🤣
*insert laughing leo picture here*
Oh, baby…
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Nice
Venus is, truly, an absolutely awful place. Honestly the Russians successfully landing a probe and getting pictures and data back was an underrated engineering accomplishment, just a phenomenal achievement.
Its worth a megaproject video
Don't worry. It's not underrated. Something with that much brute strength and resistance, enough to survive on frickin' Venus was a crowning technological achievement by the Soviets, recognized the world over. It's still pretty much the only non-Mars probe taught in Earth/Space sciences in schools anymore. Venera 8 did it again, lasting about 50 minutes, so roughly twice as long. I think it was Venera 8 that discovered the minerals on Venus's surface that's very common in middle-ish depths of Earth's oceans. It might also have been the one to record the very first lightning strike seen on the planet.
@@TheLoneTerran wasn’t the Russian Venus proves the first to pick up audio recordings from another planet as wel?
@@FalloutGenius1 I think so
Venus sounds like dc’s apokolips
Simon absolutely loved delivering the “life, uh… finds a way” line. Could see it in his eyes.
Someone give this script writer a raise. This is some of the best writing I've ever heard in the Simonverse.
The “Simonverse.” Considering all the channels he hosts, that’s an extremely apropos term. I like it.
The "Simonverse" is now part of my youtube vernacular, superb.
Venus rotates backwards, but it orbits in the exact same direction as all of the other planets
I feel like it's not misinformation, it's more that the description was worded... flabbergastingly ambiguous.
Yeah, the show says “traveling in the opposite direction”, which I guess might be a confusion with the retrograde motion as observed from the earth?
It just means the poles flipped. That's not actually that unusual even in the solar system. If it orbited the other way, yeah, that would be incredible.
I know, right? What he said sounds just like it's orbiting in the opposite direction.
There is no such thing as backwards
Venus is a pressure-cooker hellscape with an acidic atmosphere. Sounds like my last relationship.
I've been watching this man's beard grow and grow for years. You know your beard is legendary when it's just as interesting as the content
That, and the presenter himself. The lore that has developed surrounding Simon and his minions is staggering and hilarious.
We need a biographic about Simons beard
@@krato890 I think that's more Mega Projects video
@@ilarious5729 nah Into the Shadows
@@ilarious5729 Megaprojects video on his beard, either Geographics or Into the Shadows for the Blazement, Danny needs his own Biographics video, and a Top Tenz where every entry is Simon Whistler
Venus has long been an underrated planet in my opinion. Whether there's life in its clouds or not, it can still teach us so much about how wrong things can go for a terrestrial planet.
Venus having no moon to cause tectonic plate movent, having a retrograde orbit, is what doom it. What happen in Venus will never happen on earth.
To me venus is a better candidate for terraforming than mars
@@mikemoore9092 How would you plan to get rid of all that CO2?
@@AceSpadeThePikachu Build a sun shade and let it freeze out
@@mikemoore9092 That would be quite the mega project. There are a few videos you can look up that break don just how ridiculously difficult building a planetary sun shade would be.
Also, Venus is closer to the sun, meaning even if it WAS teraformed, it would require constant re-teraforming to keep it cool. Plus as the Sun expands and gets brighter, Venus will be right in the path of destruction.
One COULD try to push its orbit further out...but again, monumental task.
Venus' strange rotation may be evidence of a major impact. Maybe that impact "killed" the planet.
I suspected too.
Being closer to a nuclear source didn’t help. Amazing.
If it been spinning faster. I am sure that would have changed it’s past to present. But we don’t know how it would have changed it s destiny.
And it’s rotation slowing down
Venus doesnt have any evidence of tectonic activity so the volcanic activity is released when a large amount of pressure is there and the volcanos, quite literally, bust their tops open and go on for a long time until the crust heals. So the possibility of a large impactor, maybe mars size like with what hit Earth, could've caused a global mass eruption for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years.
The guardian joke had me almost spit out my food. Bloody brilliant, fact boi.
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Now, Skeeter, he ain’t hurtin’ nobody!
@@kepler656 it's good for rewatching parts or if you can't watch it all in one sitting you can watch 1 or 2 parts at a time
@@kepler656 the people who want to go back to that moment specifically. What a sad comment. I hope you’re doing better today then you were when you typed this. Get better dude
@@rational_uppercut1392 What an absolute cringe comment. Hope analyzing youtube comments gets you that psych degree 👍
As someone who lives in LA….
I would move to Venus in a heartbeat.
They would get mad at you for moving there to
try and stop voting for the libtards! and la will ebcome paradise again
Is L.A really that bad now? I haven’t been back too L.A for years, but I never seem to hear anything positive come out of the place?.
would probably be cheaper too
Why don’t you…more space for us real Angelenos
Not only is she Earth's evil twin, she's her fire and her desire
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That is hilarious, and possibly very true...
I see what you did there. 😏
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Had the opportunity to work on Venus during the Magellan Mission, mapping the surface along one of the better Pioneer Venus gravity lines. I still have my original hand drawn maps somewhere in the house.
I’m surprised some of your graphics show much more cratering on the surface than there should be.
As for the big difference, I think it is the Moon. The impact that created our Moon also sped the rotation of the Earth so that it is today a little over 200 times faster than Venus. After the impact we were rotating up to 4 times faster than today. Interestingly when you look at the Magnetic Field of Venus it’s approximately 200 times weaker than the Earth’s Magnetic Field. Without some sort of impact vent to rev up the rotation of the planet it was stuck with a weak magnetic field, and days so long that surface temperatures were able to quickly sore and cause a run away greenhouse affect. Additionally, I hypothesize Earth Style Plate Tectonics needs a massive impact event to create the necessary conditions to allow the convection within the resulting magma/lava ocean to evolve into what we now know as plate tectonics. This would also have aided in starting a carbon cycle capable of locking CO2 into carbonate rocks, much like appears to have happened on Earth after the Moon Forming Event.
I believe that the mix of the opposite charge metal core from the planet that collided with earth to create the moon gave our planet a massive power up to the mag field. I dont see anything else having that would have such an great effect on our core, as to adding the core of a small planetoid.
@@jjl1979jjl I remember working up a formula while sitting in a geophysics class where I worked out a mathematical correlation based on planet density, core rotation velocity (or rotational velocity of the planet if the core velocity is not known), and planet size. I did not include the outer planets, so with only four data points I did not feel that I had enough to work with… kinda wish I had those notes now.
I too believe we owe a lot to the moon in creating the world we now live on.
This field of study really interests me. What sort of education do you engage in to learn this subject matter?
Whatever the cause of our much greater magnetic field, I have long thought that it was the real critical difference. Of course, it helps to shield Earth from solar wind and gamma radiation, but in my mind more critical is that it acts as an enormous net, catching hydrogen from the solar wind (in the form of protons and electrons, which can then associate into hydrogen), allowing the reactions dependent on hydrogen, especially formation of water. The reaction cross-section of Earth to charged particles should be thousands or millions of rimes greater than Venus, capturing enough light volatile elements, particularly hydrogen, for this to be a water-coated world.
“It could even make Los Angeles seem livable” LOL
I don't know, one is a burning hellscape unfit for even the hardiest lifeforms. The other is just the second planet from the Sun.
One is a toxic wasteland with nothing that resembles life within. and the other is earth’s sister.
Right wing attacks are not appreciated …LA is beautiful
One has such harsh conditions that life would develop easier in the event horizon of a Blackhole, and the Other is the closest planet to the earth
@@jjgreek1 lol, you get destroyed in one reply section, so you just move to another...
Venus has retrograde rotation on it's axis, but not a retrograde motion in it's orbit.
Thanks, I was about to leave a comment myself...
I do wonder, sometimes, how much misinformation Simon has managed to sneak in about stuff that I'm not as knowledgeable about...
Thank you for mentioning this, I’m noticing more and more factual errors now that he’s doing videos on topics I’m not ignorant about 😡
Thank you.
I feel like it's not misinformation, it's more that the description was worded... flabbergastingly ambiguous.
Man do I love the way Simon gets all happy for the space topics, and that so-boyish and charming grin when he talks about missions for the future!
Yes yes!!
Notably, there's an altitude band in the clouds that might be pretty decent for human habitation. Altitudes at which temperatures are comfortable are going to be a bit low on the pressure, but still high enough to run a comfortable oxygen-nitrogen mix without drastic increase of a fire risk. There is also less sulfuric acid at these altitudes, which while still extremely corrosive to metals, opens up a door to construction from certain kinds of plastics or metals coated in plastics. Comfortable Earth-like gravity, comfortable temperatures, and equalized pressure means that a simple and light habitat construction can be suspended by balloons. Since there is no significant pressure difference, any breach would not be an immediate danger, possibly fixable with some duct tape, and even if you have to go outside briefly in an emergency, you can survive by just holding your breath - though, you'll need shower immediately afterwards to get rid of the acid. Still, way better than Mars, where you'll be dead within seconds. The wind speeds are very high at that altitude, but they are non-turbulent, so you're just carried with the clouds at high speeds. Around equator, it would also give you a very reasonable day-night cycle as you circumnavigate Venus. There is enough sunlight reaching these altitudes to power solar panels and grow plants, and you can extract sulfuric acid to process into water and use it to grow algae for air, nutrition, and even to process into fuel and plastics. If you can find a way to collect minerals from the surface and lift them to the station via balloons, this place could be entirely self-reliant. All in all, not the worst place to set up a colony.
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I'd prefer living on or above mars. If you can't get to the surface of the planet to explore and mine for minerals etc, there's little point in living there. It would be a lot of effort for very little reward.
@@another3997 Living on the surface of Mars is absolutely pointless. You get no protection from radiation and atmosphere is thin enough to be same as vacuum for our bodies, meaning the shelter has to be built same as if you were building for deep space, but also sturdy enough to withstand getting blasted by sand all the time. The gravity is too weak for human health, but strong enough to hinder mobility. Same problem with atmosphere - it's too thin for any benefits, but thick enough to hinder rocket ascent and having to deal with weather. Even landing on parachutes isn't viable there, and that's the only good thing the atmosphere does for you getting onto a planet. If you are interested in mining for minerals, you're better off finding a large asteroid and living in an orbital station with centrifugal gravity. No toxic dust, no sand storms, Earth-like gravity in the habitat, while you still get to enjoy convenience of zero g and absolute vacuum for any industrial work. We might get something out of a science outpost on Mars, but a Martian colony is among the worst ideas one can come up with. The only place that might be worse is Jupiter's clouds due to very high gravity. Absolutely every other place in the Solar System is better for human habitation than the surface of Mars. Deep underground is another matter - no radiation, no weather, less danger of an air leak. But it's life in the tunnels and you still have to live with gravity that's unhealthily low. We don't know how bad it is for human health - it might be possible to adjust, but it's not comfortable living. I can't think of any reason to subject yourself to that when there are other options in Sol.
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One doesn't just float above Venus, they experiment on Venus.
How do you think we will eventually get corrosive proof materials?
What do you think those acidic substances could be used for, industrial wise?
Perhaps we can do some real radical experiments, knowing they won't survive the surface?
We have a planet here that we already destroyed humans are selfish vile beings i stg.
It's videos like this that really make you think about all the possibilities in this crazy universe of ours . I love it !!!!
Go Chiefs. 👍
I also enjoy all of Simon's content. I can't even keep track of how many channels he hosts.
I like the part when he talked about Venus.
I like the part where he talked about SquareSpace .. lol
I like turtles
I like the part where he talked in a British accent.
@@arcturionblade1077 nothing beat when he said Uranus though
I like the part when he wore glasses
Hopefully we can hold things together long enough to get some really cool stuff from all the tech on its way to Venus.
Superb as ever. I've always had a thing for Venus, those lander photos are the eeriest thing I've ever seen, then throw in the sound recording of the surface, chilling.
Astronomics is my favorite sub-channel of Simon's.
Suggestion: you should cover Ganymede next.
When it comes to the planets in the solar system, now Simon has to cover, in order: Mercury, Earth, Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune.
*and Pluto*
@@feroth33 Pluto has already been done, also, arguably not a planet.
I think he’s got Saturn recorded. Based on the fact that Saturn got brought up in Brain Blaze today where he said he recorded something about Saturn I can only assume it was for this channel… hopefully
Ah, don't do Earth - useless piddly planet...
And Pluto don't forget Pluto
“Seen up there in the morning sky, easily visible to the naked eye.”
A thing of poetry indeed.
1:06 That dig at LA though 😂
I love these recent planetary SPAAACEgraphics🤘🤘
I actually paused the video a few minutes before it ended because I was kind of overcome with how neat humans are. I've been feeling very jaded and grumpy lately, because we can be so shitty. But . . . also we make are and explore space, not because we have to, but just because we want to. And it's pretty amazing. And then Simon pretty much summed it up after I pushed play again.
I feel a bit better now. That was unexpected.
Videos about Venus intrigues me to no end because, unlike Mars, I do believe the Venusian surface holds the truth to humanity's upbringing on Earth.
Venus hold the keys to what Earth was or what it will be. More missions need to be focused on Planet 2
I am happy to see you guys pop up in my recommendations again. I was wondering why I hadn't seen anything from you in a while.
Because the algorithm sucks.
@@resileaf9501 I don't get 70% of the uploads from my subscriptions in my subscriptions tab. Really only get notified if one turns on the notification bell, but then one just gets spammed with notifications. I really wish RUclips had some real competition.
Simon: "many scientists think Venus has as much life as a Guardian reader's dinner party"
Me, a Brit and intellectual: *sniggers*
Me, a Floridian, and well Floridian: surely he meant the Daily Mail.
Considering how much he rags on the Daily Mail in his other channels that’s probably likely.
Gotta add sniggers to my. sounds racist but isn’t list.
Fun Fact: A copy of The Guardian makes a cameo in the Daniel Craig James Bond movie Spectre.
It saddens me that the writer, editor and Simon all didn't catch that Venus rotates, not orbits backwards 😣
Well, we know that Simon doesn't actually pay attention to what he's reading. Which makes it amazing that he's one of the best RUclipsrs.
Hey now, if you were reading scripts for 3/4 of total channels on RUclips, you would miss a thing or 2 as well🤣🤣
I appreciate that Simon is getting some content recommended to him about cities and what makes for good ones 😂 a couple recent videos had little references. I hope you've found the channel that seems to have started RUclips recommending stuff like it, Not Just Bikes!
A craft shaped like a light bulb or a sphere, made of a ceramic material might be what they're developing.
One of those projects that astonish everyone with it's endurance.
BTW well done. I enjoyed this much.
Very well-researched and well-presented. So much better than some popular "educational" RUclips channels that shall not be named.
I recommend Anton Petrov or Event Horizon for anyone interested in space, amazing videos with so much detail. Especially event horizon has lots of astrophysicists etc as quests. Anton's videos are shorter but very well researched.
Why must everyone always follow up a positive comment with some snarky negative. Just enjoy the content, and get over it. If you don’t like the other types of channels, just ignore them.
@@ilarious5729 Already subscribed to Anton 😁
@@mallomon then you'll for sure like event horizon as well! A tad longer and in depth videos but very quality stuff ✌️
To this day my favorite kurzgesagt video is the terraforming Venus video. Realistically, it’s our best chance at becoming at multi-planet species. I hate the fact that I won’t be able to see what we accomplish in the future. Mortality sucks.
Let’s hope tech makes us live to see it man
I thought the soviets did the best job with Venus. They recorded audio and sent it back to earth, they took panoramic photos, they took sample readings and sent the data back to earth. It was amazing actually hearing what the surface sounded like
Ok
Spectacular video on Venus thank you so much
I'm so excited for all the Venus probes to check out the planet. I absolutely love learning about space so I've never clicked faster on one of your videos
I think I watch you more than anyone now. I have no idea how u record for all these channels but keep it coming. All the topics are well covered and go deeper than a lot of content on RUclips. Thanks ☺️
He’s addressed it in his other channel: he does speed. Allegedly 😁
No talk of ‘blimps’ , and I use that word generously. A floating probe would be genius
Hey simon you need to make a space channel. You can name it "To the stars and beyond!"
I love your presentations! Thankyou so much for compiling and posting them. Silghtly off-topic I know but think of the fun human explorers will have when they finally land on Mars and have ready-made toys in the form of robotic rovers to repair and play with.
I really want the first alien life we discover to be on Venus-- the least hospitable planet we know.
At 14.97 psi (say 15 psi) at sea level this atmospheric pressure is equivalent to being 30 m underwater. So if Venus’ atmospheric pressure is the equivalent to being 1.5 km underwater it is 50 times greater than earth’s.
Since the Venusian atmosphere is 95 % CO2 we can say that CO2 is solely responsible for the pressure as an “accurate” approximation.
Since the mass of Venus is slightly less than earth’s mass, & mass determines gravitational attraction, it is not planetary mass that is causing the high pressure.
Since planetary mass positively correlates with the mass of gases that a planet is able retain around itself, and gas temperature negatively correlates with same, Venus’s lesser mass & higher temperature means that it’s atmospheric pressure should be less.
The planet is acting as a pressure cooker, which means there has to be a lid.
Could it be that heavier gases are above the lighter gases, refusing to mix with them, unable to escape to space, and acting as that lid?
"Makes even Los Angeles feel livable" BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yay, more space bodies videos 👍
This was written and narrated brilliantly! Bravo to the author and to Simon for capturing a sense of child-like wonder and hope while folding in a touch of wit for good measure
Have you thought of covering the Portuguese fortifications “lines of
Torres Vedras” during the Napoleonic wars?
Consider me intrigued. 🧐
A lot of people don’t realize how small Mars is. Venus would probably be more inhabitable if we could figure out how to create a Bespin style cloud city in the upper atmosphere.
I feel like you've got an evil twin with all the channels you run.. and somehow I've subscribed to all of them
Did Simon just bless us with a David Attenborough impression? Amazing episode!!! Mind blowing facts from the fact god.
I don't think it's unreasonable to consider that there once was life on Venus. It depends if you believe life finds a way in the right conditions or you think it's insanely rare. Cos both mars and Venus had the right conditions once.
Edit: now I hate that I probably have to clarify "life".. I don't mean complex life. I mean simple life. Complex life has gotta be rare. The amount of near complete extinction even earth has had, and that's the most stable thing we know. lol
Any form of life is very complex.
2:37 - Venus does NOT have a retrograde orbit. It travels in the same direction as the rest of the planets. It does, however ROTATE in the opposite direction. Therefore a sunrise (if it could ever be seen from the surface) would occur in the west and set in the east. But since Venus rotates so slowly its day is longer than its year. It would complete one orbit before a full rotation.
The only thing missing from this episode is how Venus apparently failed to develop plate tectonics, and with it the carbon cycle that usually allows earth to not turn into a furnace.
Only Simon could shoehorn Guardian Readers’ dinner parties into a video about Venus!
Great video!
This episode is at least on par with the history channel.
Amazing in depth information.
👏👏👏👏
Not enough blaming Aliens and bad antique shows to be history
@@vonfaustien3957 Or Pawn Stars; can't forget the Pawn Stars
"I had it appraised; the guy says it's worth ten thousand d-"
"I'll give ya twenty bucks for it."
🤣 The reference to Venus’ orbit is very much Hysterical Channelesque.
Maybe now that Simon isnt hosting geographics and its sister channels he might have time to do a dedicated space channel ❤
If we had two inhabitable planets, the planets would constantly be at war.
Sadly true. Mars would be on that collision course for such a thing
MCRN vs UN
We could name them Eminiar and Vendicar, maybe?
Venus is the rebellious sister, Earth is the goody two shoes, and Mars is the goth.
Totally love this comment. It sent my insomniac mind on one of it's little journeys, just kinda dancing in circles around an idea. I scribbled down this alternative (amusing, I think) analogy & came back to share:
Venus is the bitter divorcee, moping around in defiant retrograde rotation, swathed in dowdy acid clouds. Standoffish, jaded and pessimistic, curtly rebuffing any attempts at intimacy, they're overly dramatic and no fun at parties.
Earth is the flighty one, follower of trends and the latest fads - plate tectonics, ice ages, supercalderas, mass extinctions, you name it, Earth's done it. Always accompanied by a garish moon and, lately, bedazzled with artificial satellites and warbling their weird music across the spectrum.
Finally, Mars is the scrappy one, small but fierce; resilient, outspoken, scarred and tattooed. Proud of their bulging southern highlands and prominent shield volcanoes, unashamed of their impact basins, their frantically circling moonlets, their equatorial canyons and outflow channels boldly on display.
This is fun! By dawn I'll have probably anthropomorphized the whole solar system.
Mariner 2 is still in a solar orbit around the sun. It's still on the tangential orbit that it took to get to Venus in 1962, but when it crosses its orbit, Venus isn't there.
Mariner 2 is also likely still in mint condition although obviously very dead. It also could have been gravitationally tossed into the sun, an asteroid, or deep space.
Sometime in the late 21st century, I think it might be cool if some spacecraft somehow came across Mariner 2 and took it to be displayed in a museum on Mars or something.
Dude how many channels do you have???? Every day i found a new channel with you in it. Not complaining just astonished 😄
Just Venus :3 Great title! It's fine, sure it's just a small mistake, love your videos as always :3
I said the same thing xD
What you smoking?
16:13 Simon doing his best Bill Shatner... lol
I always had this sci fi idea that Venus could be the solar systems geothermal power plant where we have cloud cities that have spires holding water down to close to the surface like an upside down water tower where steam would rise up the spire and drive turbine generators and as it condenses and cools it would drip back down the spire in a low pressure port and we would basically have free electricity
Great work 🥳🥳🥳 Thank you 💜💜💜
while i'm not optimistic in the least bit that venus has life, i am excited for us to learn more about the conditions in the atmosphere at that goldilocks altitude.
I’ve heard the Goldilock zone includes Mars and Venus. That it’s just because of Mars’s small size and Venus’s runaway greenhouse effect that those planets aren’t habitable.
@@kellydalstok8900 there's far far too many variables that go into what actually make a planet habitable, it's very complicated and we won't know more until we get a lot more research done on the histories of these planets.
the goldilocks zone is a useful indicator that, hey this planet might have a chance for having liquid water but planets that are just outside could also have the right conditions. if the earth would be shoved to venus' location we would all be baked alive but if the earth's atmosphere became much more reflective then we could carry on as normal, mostly.
Thank you. Been waiting for this
Ah, well you see, Venus was designed like that, to warn us of what happens to Earth if we screw things up.
I loved his enthusiasm about Venus and it’s possibilities! I had no idea these NASA projects were in the works. I’m totally stoked!!
While the Da Vinci probe sounds way cool, I'm wondering what parachute material won't dissolve in the acidic atmosphere (and the ropes, for that matter)
Amazing title there Simon. Work that algorithm there fact boy ' venus'
My guy said that Venus makes even LA look livable... dang Simon show us on the doll where LA hurt you lol
You do realisebthat yhe scriptwriters are American?
@@owenshebbeare2999 so whoever wrote this script, same question lmfao
Venus, a true hellscape indeed. The perfect place to send the worlds politicians.
Oh yes Earth's evil twin sister with the runaway greenhouse effect.
New channel: Simon reads the phone book….I’d 100% sub in a heart beat…everything he thinks of is RUclips gold
Simon, you need to give the Author, Morris M., a staggering raise.
Your wheelhouse of Authors is certainly impressive, but this is among the best scripts you’ve been given.
Jenn, as always, your attentional to detail and quality is phenomenal.
Simon, you continue to improve your gravitas and tempo changes.
You also need to give your executive producer more credit, as alas, I know little about you Shannon, and for that I apologize.
All around, this is easily the best piece y’all’ve created!
Thank you so much!!
Simon, I always enjoy your videos. Perhaps you can do one on the search for intelligent life in Washington DC?
Only FactBoi can say "fart" and have it sound classy
The LA crack made me laugh. Great video, as always
Thumbs up for the Los Angeles joke.
'It makes Los Angeles almost habitable'
Now that was funny!
At the time of the Chicxulub Impact there were also lots and lots of volcanoes erupting for a decent period of time in India which also contributed, likely, to the Dino's undoing.
A sophisticated man.. I enjoyed this video ☺️
What if humans came from Venus after we destroyed our home planet
That’s the plot for Appleseed lol
Enable subtitles, watch 26:45 "Davinci making pen¡s cool again" - made me chuckle.
With it's similar gravity venus might actually be terraformable, unlike mars. Sure it's covered in acid, but that's something we could theoretically fix or work around. You can't make mars heavier, not without liquefying the surface from dropping mass down there, so cooling some clouds to rain them down to the surface of venus starts to look pretty doable in comparison.
I disagree completely. Gravity could be compensated for by extra weight. Like being in orbit.
We can't change clouds or weather or we wouldn't be having these problems on earth.
Your comment was theoretically one of the dumbest I've ever read.
Nope. You'd isn't even consider Venus retrograde rotation and slow as a snail rotation. Nor the fact that it has no tectonic plates of significant activity to help it cool down. Venus is death. And that's that.
@@alexandercampbell3386 despite your rudeness and lack of simple biological and meteorological knowledge, I'll still answer you 🤣😄 wearing weights would help with some of your support muscles, but it only slows the problem of low gravity. You can't put weights on your eyeballs, or your veins, or your heart, and those are the bits of you that suffer the most from low gravity. As for the weather bit, it's very simple to cool a planet. Not easy, but simple, they're called sunshades, ultra thin foil satellites that unfold and reflect sunlight away from a planetary surface. Go watch some Isaac Arthur or read anything written on terraforming before making a fool of yourself online bud.
"Si" ( consider that your legit your South African nickname) ,even at 02:46am CAT,you remain a true goat of "how to end a proper epic belated birthday day with a last call and appreciation of a well done video"
Did you really just compare Venus to Los Angeles? 😅
I really don't understand folks who can say "no life can live there". We can't possibly fathom the entirety of possibilities
I’ve lost count of how many channels this man has
Gotta love the notion that scientists can retroactively speculate millions of years ago. The hubris of the limited human mind.
they can, they do, and often, they are correct.
@@randomname3109 you can't prove speculation on events millions of years ago. You can only...... speculate.
Simon, you are everywhere!
Totally on board with the LA reference.
All I want in life is someone who talks about me like Simon talks about "funky little robot helicopters." 😍
@10:45 ALL of them except the Dinosaur-Meteor? Does that include the Great Oxygenation Event? Because I didn't know that involved volcanos
Here for another video that I didn't know I needed.