Is this finally a way to easily make beautiful wargaming tables?
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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Matthew discusses his journey in making gaming tables, and the pros and cons to all the solutions out there.
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Looks awesome. $1200 for an unpainted set is sky high.
Especially in the age of sub $300 printers and Maker Spaces at public libraries!
It's really not....
Nice to get this recap of how you've made your tables through the years!
I still remember following the old table tutorial you had and making my own wooden table with sand glued to it😂
I so totally agree with you: an immersive table is so much more important to me than the miniatures.
I can get my kicks simply by looking at a great table, visualizing the battle taking place. 😅
Sold me on the kickstarter. Nothing works better than having a guy talk about what they love and Matt loves the hobby!
I love this. I’ve been having a blast making my own terrain. I’m using the nice box for indomitus cut to shape as the base. I use hot glue to attach any styrofoam to the base. Works with 3D printed ruins aswell. Then Grout mixed with pva glue and water and paint of your choice such as tan for sand or grey for concrete. This Seals the foam and while is still wet you can add a nice dusting of choice to add basing. Grass or actual sand rocks. Moss vines etc. Fun easy way to craft some terrain. I’ll use a standard gaming mat under
Although its' awesome in both concept and finish, I couldn't deal with all of the joining lines between tiles!
I’m 💯 in agreement! Models are important having an immersive well put together table is so much more. It lets you really get into the game.
Perfect timing, I just had my first FDM printer delivered and also spent loads of time/money building a game board out of wood/foam. All of the problems mentioned in the video I had experienced first hand. I will be trying these out in the coming weeks for sure.
Thank you so much! Let us know if there's anything we can do to help you as you get started 3D printing!!
When Adam (from green Leaf terrain) was in Melbourne back in 2008-2009, he used to hang out at Viv's old gaming store, The Battle Bunker. He, Viv and Scott Reid used to make great terrain and gaming tables together, many of which can be found at various clubs in Melbourne, including Axes and Ales.
Ha i just backed this yesterday and im glad you guys did a video so i can see what it look likes
Thanks so much for your support!!!
Great video! Thank you for sharing your recommendations :) Looking to share some of these tips with our wargaming community!
So let me ask this: HOW modular are they? There's one thing to print them out based on something you laid out or a predesigned table, but the modular-ness I'm aiming for is to have the tiles line up in several different ways to help avoid repetition. I want to see a tile with say 8x8 grid and if half of one edge is elevated 2" then it's able to line up with any other opposing tile at that height. Is that the case? I mean you'd still need quite a few tile options, but it opens it up quite a bit if you have that level of connectivity.
I love terrain so much too!!! So immersive! A must have for a real good looking game! ;)
Definitely interested
I agree on terrain tables in general - but those tiles look terrible. Total illusion breaking.
I’ll stick to making my own .
Why not, if i have the creative ability, time and desire-
They _look_ amazing. But I'm not sure about how handy they're going to be for rank-and-flank games. Neoprene is hard to beat in that department.
I was just thinking that.. actually moving models on a table like that, or even placing large-based models on any kind of clear area would be very difficult .. it depends on whether you want to make a great looking diorama or play a game
It's a shame that filament printers are such a crapshoot on if they work. I had an ender 3 V2 and I couldn't get it to print anything correctly.
We use the Bambu P1P: it's the best printer for the money on the market today. So much more user-friendly, very few print fails. But it is a higher cost than the Ender 3, so it's not everyone's cup of tea. You can always order any of our models already printed, if you are interested!
Full table of terrain can be yours for the low low price of $700! Yikes
So cheaper than Dwarven Forge.
@@calvanoni5443 one over priced printing service is cheaper than another over priced printing service 👍
Yeah, it is a rather steep price to pay from the get-go. To be fair however, the terrain is already printed, painted and ready to go. If you want to print it yourself, the files aren’t that expensive. The price is not just the terrain, it’s the effort and time saving service you get from having it all done for you
Pool table is still og and better
700 is peanuts compared to commissioning a bespoke table.
This is very cool, but I already own a bunch of Dragonlock tile STLs, which are smaller, but I could probably scale them up or slice a bunch together to get a similar effect. I might still back the foothills tier though
Thanks so much for considering our campaign! Let us know if you have any questions!
Me too! I've always been more fascinated toward terrain.
This seems fun, I'd love this for home games
At least, I’m not alone with the fascination with the terrain and escenery
I also love terrain and have a few boxes of it I take to my LGS. Can't wait to get the STL for the Gamefound terrain piece!
I like that it's scale-agnostic. You could absolutely play a 28mm, 15mm, or 6mm game on that.
Really cool 👍
we are still using the old, classic GW tile battlefield along with 4 extra FW tiles for variability, but this sure looks great! Might be the final push for me to get a 3D printer.
We're also selling physical models, in case you are interested, or just go ahead and buy that printer 😁
@@terrainify9389 oh you tempt me hard lol..
😁😁😁@@FlourEater
Love how "Here's how to have an awesome table/army/whatever" videos have just become ads for 3D printers.
Looks pretty cool. Will the stl files be available for purchase later on or are they only available for the kickstarter? Also another thing is most the files are 8x8 which makes them pretty large as most resin printers have a smaller build plate than this.
Hey there! First question: yes, the STL files will be available at regular retail value on our website once we have completed fulfillment for the Kickstarter (fulfillment is scheduled for April 2024). Second question: all Terrainify STL files are designed for FDM printing, so it was FDM printer bed sizes we had in mind when choosing the 8x8 inch size. We hope to break into resin printing in the future, but as PLA is so much more affordable for this size of project, that's what we are focusing on now!
@terrainify9389 OK thanks for letting me know!
Close to what I want but the pla lines are still ugly. I'm a brat.
The trees are actually super cool
Thank you so much! We worked really hard to design trees that look realistic, but are easy to 3D print and easy to play around - glad to hear you like them!
@@terrainify9389 do the winter in the ender 3s print space?? I think the look wicked with some light scattered flock to give it a little more fluffy leaves
@@jaysonguerin8036 The largest models in this KS have a footprint of 204mm x 204mm, so they will all fit on an Ender 3.
@@johncasiello3537 I appreciate you ❤️
This was my commercial when I woke up at 3 am?. You must be insane
Omg, just one week after I bought myself a 2d printer, this kickstarter comes out. The Dice Gods wanted this.
Can't see these replacing my mats, but options are nice!
I think this is amazing. However... are there also flat panels? My group play Star Wars Legion, and we need to put building type terrain down
Yes, there are! We have two sets of flat/flat-ish 8x8 inch tiles (Low Rocks and Tall Rocks, each has 6 unique tile designs) as well as a set of flat adapter tiles so you can create any board size you want.
Use a cloth mat and put hills and contours underneath the cloth. Then put high quality scatter terrain on top. Boom. Great looking table.
i also really do love terrain and MWG is the best in the buisness, SS82 is a close 2nd for me, he puts allot of care into his Tables too
I love the idea - my only grip is that you went from having 4 seams throughout your entire board to many more every few inches. I wonder if it'd be possible to devise an interlocking system that does a better job at hiding the seams
for the one they print themselves they could easily do 12x12 (still easy to store) but for print-it-yourself it's not as common (9x9 would be sweet though)
We sacrificed some of the aesthetics (read: more seams) for increased modularity - we spent a LOT of time thinking it through before deciding on 8x8 inch tiles! But absolutely understand that not everyone can tolerate the lines between the tiles. Good comments, thanks for sharing!
100% understand - I would personally live with the seam but for sure would appreciate a more seamless result.
I can imagine that the process of tiling everything together was already a huge headache.
@@BenleGentil lol you understand perfectly, we put a ton of work into the design so it would look good, be modular AND 3D print with no fails. But it was a lot of work!
@@BenleGentilbiggest problem with seams is for games you can't pre measure. Having the seams is like having a ruler. Not sure what you can do about it though.
@@Dragonslairminis Fair point
i would love if they made a couple tiles to allow you to make the 60x44 tables of 40k and aos and super flat ones for buildings
They do! They have converter tiles that let you make different size tables.
Just cut some foamcore or other styrofoam for the footprint of the building with appropriate dimensions to replace one or two (or more) of the tiles and paint in a similar to either the buildings or the landscape… think of it as a foundation or sidewalk or something
Seconding MWG's response - we have three sizes of adapter tiles (6x4, 6x6, 8x4 inches) specifically designed to make 40k sizes, as well as two sets of flat 8x8 tiles! Let us know if you have any questions!
Ohmygosh YES!!! Legions Imperialis would look beauuuuuuutiful on that board...
You need to get into model railroading.
I'm the same, the scenic terrain is as important or more important than the models. As a warmachine player, lemme tell you, its rough.
Could a resin printer handle some of the smaller scatter pieces?
Right now, all our files are designed specifically for FDM printing, so we can't guarantee your results for resin printing. That said, I have heard from people who printed smaller models of ours in resin successfully. It just depends on the model and your own comfort with adjusting settings and knowing the risk. You can always buy any of our models already printed, but if you have a printer that is probably not your vibe! Feel free to contact us with more questions.
got into this hobby about a year and a half ago. I find myself making terrain instead of painting my minis .
Terrain-making easily becomes its own addictive hobby! In a good way (in our opinion 😁)
Pool table is still supreme
I find the STLs very expensive. 140 bucks for a couple of STLs is pretty expensive.
A couple of huge, highly detailed STLs you can print as many times as you want? A good gaming mat is 50$, 3 of them.... Well there ya go.
@@JacopoSkydweller You are exaggerating a bit. Also, what's the point if I had to print everything 50 times until it is viable? I mean, it is not a commerical license, so I can't sell anything made of it legally.
So it is a terrible price.
@@yerushalaimnehereset For a good quality, large gaming mat? No, I am not. How else are you going to get that that quality and size? You're either going to spend a ton more money, or a TON more time crafting your own out of foam.
Looks great! My only major concern is that it would be really easy to bump the table and mess everything up while you're playing. Got any suggestions for how to prevent that?
Good question! We use rubber bumpers on the bottom of the tiles (like the kind you'd put on a cabinet door or drawer), one in each corner, and they work really well to keep everything stable. If you use a felt or fabric covered table, you won't even need the bumpers (found that out at a demo we did at a local game shop!).
@@terrainify9389excuse me, do you know what terrain color/theme is being shown at 5:48 ?
An ad in long video form
How much material does it take to print on average? Assuming you're using the recommended infill amount
I’d say between 100 & 250g of PLA
@@BenleGentilwow, that's exactly right! The tiles vary in elevation and therefore amount of filament, shortest tiles are about 100 grams and largest tiles are about 250 grams.
@terrainify9389 Are those 6x6 tiles ?
@@BenleGentil All the standard tiles are 8x8 inches - this was the best size we came up as a compromise between modularity, aesthetic appeal, and being able to make as many board sizes as possible without additional sizes of tiles. That said, we also have a set of adapter tiles in three sizes (6x4, 6x6, and 8x4) so you can make a 44x60, etc.
Now I just have to build an addition on the house for a game room 🤨.
Yay more adverts
Ah yes, my favorite setting - some forest.
Unpopular opinion: Nothing new to see here, just the most recent execution of it (and pretty expensive, too). We’ve been making 12”x12” modular tiles from foam core board or foam insulation almost since WFB and Rogue Trader dropped several decades ago as an extension of the craft from making D&D boards for our Grenadier miniatures! Way cheaper and easier than trying to tote around model railroad setups all over town!
And (blasphemy alert) we even made boards to fight on that weren’t perfect rectangles or squares! Ya’ll just got comfortable playing on the size and shape that GW TOLD you to play on in the way they told you to play with only the buildings or such that they sold you (how many of you all forgot that hills even exist?)! And then GW went and made the boards smaller, further relieving folks from the burden of having to think about how to conduct maneuver warfare!
News flash: It’s ALWAYS been fun to fight somewhere other than the heart of the city or the edge of the forest, and even on aysemetrical battlefields!
The sculpts are lovely, but... a 6x4 looks to be about 3 months of printing at 0.20, and I can't get over the 1 foot (or smaller) grid of gaps.
Canada looks like it is cold from what everyone is wearing 🥶
The secret to having beautiful terrain without putting in hours of hard work turns out to be.... *having lots of money!* 😮
It s verry beautiful....
How long did the tiles take to print?
Hey there! I think in the video Matthew says they took them 2-3 days to print and paint (so, less than that to print), but I'm not sure how many printers they were using. On our Bambu P1P printers, one tile takes 7-12 hours to print at 0.2mm layer height and 6% infill (we use gyroid) - time depends on the size of the tile. P1Ps are a fair bit faster than older printers, which could take up to twice as long to print the tiles. Hope that helps!
This was a great commercial
you need a house to keep hem in - so you can live in your own house - when you are not playing table top game 😵💫
What terrain theme is that at 5:50 ?
Erh. The printer contouring is a bit… yuck. And the elevations on the tiles don’t stack up so good.
I’m not convinced but glad there are more options I guess
So far out of the range of the average gamer. I’ll stick to the £50 mat and home made polystyrene hills.
Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life. 🤓
I need that shirt dog! Sauce me a link
Modular morass over gaming mats any day. Never liked gaming mats, I hated that 3D terrain sat on this 2d mat, always took me away from the fun of a game when playing on them. Terranscspe used to do gorgeous modular boards
We loved Terranscapes!!! He provided a lot of inspiration for the level of detail and aesthetics we strive for.
@@terrainify9389 He’s amazing isn’t he, I think a lot of people have him to thank as a source of inspiration, I for one am proud to say I grew up with his videos as one of my first introductory channels to wargaming!
@@wolowizard4441 agree 100%!!!
Meh……In my opinion all the lines made by the pieces look way worse then just having 3D terrain on a mat……and it’s also way more expensive.
So, homemade was too expensive at 1000 dollar. Now you promote this super easy and perfect balance, but its 1200 dollar????
Storage also seems like a royal pain with all these small singular pieces
Matthew is referring to the cost of the STL files ($99 on the Kickstarter for the 6x4 table) being much less expensive than the cost of ordering a custom full table of terrain. But yes, we do have to charge more if you order the models already printed and/or painted, due to materials, staffing, shipping and wear and tear on our printers. However, storage is pretty easy - all 54 tiles for a full 6x4 table fit in four 17x17x9 shipping boxes (about the size of a small end table, total). You're welcome to reach out with any other questions!
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