They really remind you here that Rex is just a kid. One who has too much responsibility on his shoulders and has been doing his best to hold it together all this time.
The interesting thing is that in a sense both The Architect (Klaus) and Zanza got what they wanted, they both became a god, they became part of the divine. The Half that Became Zanza genuienly belived his experiment succeeded which lead him to go on a powertrip and ganied the powers of a Creator god, but wanted NONE of the responsabilities of being a God that Creates, while Klaus stucked with the realization of the sins he's done he actually committed to the bit of being a God. It is 2 sides of the same coin with Shulk thrown in the middle
Towards the end of Klaus’ talk with the gang is something special. Those who played Xeno 1 saw him as this up him self, arrogant God that got his comeuppance, and to see him in this world repenting and hating himself and wanting to restore this world for the better is just pure bliss. The line “Right now…I think… I am glad I met you all” is just beautiful
What's even more interesting is SPOILERS, DO NOT READ THIS DeiZeiga!! That in Future Redeemed, A spells out that when space-time transition event that split the universes happened, the half of Klaus that became Zanza _did_ harbor regrets and pain. Sure, he did embody MORE of Klaus's ambitious, ruthless side, but It wasn't a perfect split where one was good and one was evil and that's it. Ontos took on the guilt and genuine intentions that the godhood obsessed Zanza likely wanted nothing to do with. That's how Ontos became more than just a heartless machine during 1. He was more or less Zanza's blade, then Shulk's. It isn't exactly the blade system though, just something similar, albeit more intrinsic to the fabric of XC1's universe. Alvis could pick and choose his masters. The half of Klaus that was left behind in 2's world was faced with immediate, undeniable consequences, and nobody to talk about them with. Just cold reality and an eternity of time to reflect on his own hubris. He killed EVERYONE, and he was quite literally cursed to live with it. There was no point in having ambitions or justifications, or anything; he was alone, and unlike Zanza, he couldn't instantly use the remaining two cores to reshape reality instantly, because Alrest was not governed entirely by the rules set by the cores, like Alvis controlled 1's world.
I think it’s more accurate to say that Alvis only had the option to choose between Zanza and Shulk because Zanza used him as a vessel and thus basically ‘logged Shulk in’ to Alvis’ input centre.
Rex is a boy who recited the Salvager's Code to God, and got on a first name basis with him. And damn, the final boss is gonna get clapped so hard by level difference.
@@DeiZeiga”got real quiet”…riiiiiight Believe me, if you think Rex has bragging rights after finishing this game, let’s just say, stay away from so much as even trailers for Xenoblade 3
Zeiga, the reason you can breathe is because you’re in a space station. The glass is just very clean, so it looks like there’s no wall. Edit: Also worth noting, what Zanza showed everyone is implied to be everyone’s individual fears about what the others think of themselves, with a bit of truth. So Zeke likely doesn’t think that about Rex and Pyra, it’s just something that Rex is scared Zeke thinks.
To add on. The Nia part isn't what Nia actually thinks but instead what Rex is worried Nia thinks. Basically he's subconsciously worried that she's angry at him for not accepting his confession. Which is not how Nia feels at all.
@@The_Evening_SunFunny enough Rex and Nia actually have a post battle dialogue about that confession showing that Rex isn't dense or dumb he just didn't knew how to respond properly to it (even tho we know now how it ended for them later on lmao)
So the 3 core Logos, Pneuma, and Ontos. They have meaning, they're in Greek. Ontos means "I am" its a reference to (and im heavily paraphrasing) when in the Bible some guy asks god "wat are you" and god answers "yes" Pneuma means spirit And Logos means logic. Together as the Trinity processor they make, well the christan holy trinity. As in Ontos: the father Logos: the son Pneuma: the holy spirit Meaning malos is Jesus. Also that tricycle in Elysium is a refrence to a tricycle that supposedly survived Hiroshima. Nowadays it serves as a warning about the cost of nuclear bombs in Japanese culture. As while the tricycle survived, the same can't be said for the owner. And finally pre apocalypse earth is slightly expanded on in the Xenoblade 3 dlc. Said dlc also makes Xenosaga cannon. So you might want to play those at some point (the fact that they're cannon now is leading some of fandom to speculate at there being a remaster so maybe don't rush it too fast).
9:25 fun fact via a mod to make the camera free roam you can see that this area is so big that you realize the part that is used in the game is about 1-5% of what is actually there
one of the things I really appreciate about Xenoblade 2 is that it doesn't treat its God character as a bad guy. Even though he's just a person, they still treat him with a level of reverence and care over his actions and give him a deep investment in his creation, which contrasts with so many other jrpgs that treat the gods/creators as more antagonistic. Rex turning towards Klaus at the end and giving him fullhearted "Thank you" for creating them is one of my favorite scenes in the entire series.
God in xb1: eeeevil God in xb2: "I Just Hope that One day in this eternal prison I Will atone for my mistakes" But tbf we got the evil pope, so It checks out
There is a theory (which was basically confirmed with the Switch version of Xenoblade 1) that Alvis is Ontos, after all at the end of Xenoblade 1 Alvis told Shulk that he was originally the AI in charge of managing the Space Stationw where Klaus activated the experiment. and well, this IS the same space station after all. Also In the Switch Version Alvis Necklace changed from just a Key to a Red Colored Aegis core Crystal AND NOT JUST THAT o if you triangulate the colors of Logos and Pneuma Cores the color that would ve in Theory Ontos, what you get is a shade of dark Red, it's insane
It remained a theory for a long period of time until Definitive Edition came out and the changing of Alvis’ necklace basically confirmed it. Many players figured it out waaaay before Definitive Edition was even announced
@@Alban_Blade_Memer yes and no. Alvis and Alpha are both referred to as male. A is the only non binary one and calles themselves "his conscious" (referring to alpha). I don't know if ontos as a whole is gender fluid or is only specifically that form is non binary.
40:39 You forget Zanza talked all that shit about Fate this and Fate that, Klaus is still the same person, tied down by this concept that everything is but fated to happen, Klaus created a whole ass counter measure so that another him didn't appear and yet here is Amalthus destroying the world thinking he's a god or some shit. Of course he'd give up
I interpreted a lot of his fate talk as depression after seeing humanity repeat the same evils that he saw in his original world. At that point he basically accepted that this is just human nature "fated" to make the same mistakes again and again.
@@joelsasmad It also plays in Klaus being a deist in contrast to Galea being the rational mind (which is why she confronts him on what the Zohar is) which links it further back to Xenosaga agnostic themes. While Klaus is literally a god, he truly believes he is ordained by a higher entity, which is embodied by the Zohar (much like how Amalthus and Rex did with the Aegis and Elysium respectively)
The interesting thing is Klaus showed them their fears. This means deep down Rex does actually know that Nia confessed to him and is subconsciously afraid she resents him for his answer at the time where he's picked pyra/mythra over her. Nia actually isn't a very jealous person
I mean they literally have a postbattle talk about it, you can even fing on RUclips. It goes kinda like this: Rex: "Nia..em, about that thing earlier?" Nia: "Hm?....Oh, y-you about that? Let's talk about it later." And they indeed talked.
A few things i wanted to comment here 1-You might not remember who ontos is but a certain design change on definitive edition makes it obvious 2-Someone else commented this, but yeah the reason why zanza was evil but the architect was good is becuase the experiment showed different apparent results for each of them, they both gained godlike power, but while zanza was thrown into an world that he could rule over, the architect had the destroyed old world. 3-Also yeah what you fought was Rex's fears that he felt deep inside, every party member had a version of that, we just saw Rex's because he is the protagonist
God: What is your deepest desire? Rex: Let me tell you about the 6th rule of the Salvager Code. It's a good rule, when I get old enough to drink. God: ... I see ... Rex in a nutshell 😂😂😂
Genuinely, xenoblade has some of the best lore in any video-game i have ever played. I love it so much. Edit: 36:14 sooooo, little hint for who ontos is, i wont say who it is, just a little hint: He is in xenoblade 1.
@@LFPman this entire section was Rex's inner doubts, what he thought his teammates think about him, including Nia blaming him for not responding to her feeling. Which is really sad.
Pyra and Mythra needs a real man but that's precisely why Rex is the one they needs and no one else dlc spoilers Even Addam admit at one point not being man enough, which is funny considering he's the one Zeke idolize and thought to be the descendant of
I gotta admit, reaching the very tree you met Pyra at the very beginning, and seeing Elysium is this barren waste land that’s been our end goal this whole time, was a lie? That stuff can be heart shattering
@@DeiZeiga Elysium was very much like how Pyra saw it in her memory space of the past. But after the experiment and everyone disappeared Elysium slowly died off after how many thousands of years. It was clearly the home to all the people who worked at the Rhadamanthus tower. Honestly I expected Elysium to not be what it was since that's a very easy twist to do. The part about Klaus being the Architect though I didn't expect when I first played it.
36:42 pneuma has become the same for their ascended state and the soiler code name for them is "coffee with milk" the thing rex compared them too at the start of ch8
Xenoblade 2: the only game I know where you can have a magical cat/fox spirit in traditional shrine maiden robes wandering what looks like a completely ordinary and modern airport terminal (though it's technically a spaceport, but the interior is pretty much identical). I love Xenoblade 2 for basically creating an entire fantasy world, that's distinct, but still recognizably _fantasy..._ that's built out of 100% Clarke-tech. Regarding side questing now... there is one Blade, with a full Blade Quest, that's only added to the gacha after beating the final boss. While they don't have Blade Quests, there are also new Blades added in NG+ (along with several other mechanics).
There is also another blade you can get in the land of challange. And while their quest isn't exactly a blade quest it is a fun tour around Alrest with them. Hopefully Dei can unlock them so we can see it.
I was genuinely surprised that certain blade was post game only. Because I had a fair few Gacha blades I had left to unlock after completing the main story. My last three I unlocked in order, was Newt, KOS-MOS and Dahlia. Yeah I have no words how Dahlia of all blades was the rarest for me
@@LFPman Hearing Newt be so rare is so funny to me since she was also rare for me and so many others. My last one to get. All because of a programing oversight that caused one of the blade groups you get early to not work.
DeiZeiga: I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. Klaus: *Smiles a little* DeiZeiga: Ok I trust you.
Klaus lost everything because of his actions and spent an unfathomable amount of time trying to atone. He lived through an entire evolutionary cycle, alone. And when intelligent life finally starts to pop up, they make the same mistakes his kind once did. He can’t even make himself disappear. It’s enough to drive you insane thousands of times over. He had given up on everything… and Rex was able to get through to him. Rex was able to make him see hope in humanity. Rex is genuinely one of my favorite characters in gaming and in fiction.
36:13 … about this, rewatch the end of Xenoblade Chronicles 1, specifically Alvis’s exposition dump to Shulk thing while he was the weird green light, the math will start mathing, give it a sec.
32:17 Just keep playing man. You’re almost there. There’s a split second moment in the final battle that answers it. Pay close…CLOSE attention and brush up your Xenoblade 1 cutscene knowledge
Ok, so the Conduit is a Xenosaga thing, basically source of infinite power, anything is possible through the Zohar/Conduit blah blah blah. IN A MODEL FOR SIREN, THE ARTIFICE MYTHRA USES-- There is some lore dropped that says the Conduit/Zohar was found in a Lake in Africa same way it was found in Xenosaga (THIS IS NOT A SPOILER BECAUSE IT IS LITERALLY THE OPENING CUTSCENE OF XENOSAGA 1) So uhhh yeah!
This game is super underrated, I swear, it has its issues of course, but if you look past them it's one of the best story experiences ever and the characters are phenomenal.. god I love the Xenoblade series..
You got it all right. The worlds of XC1 and 2 share a common origin and both of their plots unfold at roughly the same time in paralell universes. It's one of the coolest ways I've seen a game handle its "sequel", because you don't really need to play the first one to understand and enjoy the story of the second, but if you did then this final chapter becomes absolutely mindblowing. About Ontos (the third aegis that travelled to another dimension), it's confirmed now to be Alvis from XC1. If you remember at the end of the game he stated that he was a processing unit, and in the switch remaster they changed his model to now feature a cross-shaped crystal on his chest.
As someone who did play 2 first, I will admit, the opening cutscene of Klaus beginning his experiment and the exposition talk with the party had a few times where it would fly over my head. When you’ve got fans that have played 1 first like Etika and Dei that were out for Klaus’ blood before he could explain himself. Part of me wishes Alvis always had his Aegis core crystal back in the original game (before DE existed), but that would be too risky because very observant fans would figure out the two worlds are canon before so much as the glimpse in the Crucible.
So, some little explanations that the game doesn't give you: Ontos, the third Aegis, is none other than Alvis. If you see a photo from Alvis, you'll see the Aegis Core Crystal on his chest. The Conduit has the same shape as the Aegis Coore Crystals because the Aegis Core Crystals come from the Trinity Processor, a processor that's made by the conduit to let humans use its power. The world before Xenoblade 1 and 2 is actually Earth, the Conduit was discovered on 2001 in Africa, and it was so powerfull it let humans make big technological advancements. That's how they built the orbital ring. Earth was destroyed in wars to take control over the Conduit, and Elysium was built as a replacemente for Earth. When Klaus used the conduit, the universe was split in two, and as you figured, Xenoblade 1 and 2 happen at the same time.
Well he is not a Aegis. Aegis is a term made up by the ppl of Alrest as explained in Torna. It only refers to the Blades that came out of the core crystals of Pneuma and Logos. He is also not a Blade, since he left before Klaus invented the Blade system (that Ontos did a phase time transition event is a mistranlation, the experiment was the phase transition event that made Ontos dissapear at the beginning). He also has his memories pre-experiment unlike Malos and Mythra. Meaning instead of Aegis, Alvis is a pure Trinity Processor.
Funny you ask if KOS-MOS is the same KOS-MOS from Xenosaga. She isn't but is a version of the same character created by Tanaka, the artist who designed her, who said he wanted to keep the design similar to the original "Ver.1" appearance of the character, and something that would represent "Xenosaga" in the game as a whole. Her name in the Japanese version is KOS-MOS Re or KOS-MOS Refrain as it was a refrain on the design of the previous person who designed her in Xenoaga. So technically this KOS-MOS is completely different as she has Cannons whose shapes looks like the Conduit in Xenoblade 2 or the Zohar in Xenosage with pink energy wings yet retains much of the originals demeanor and vast knowledge. The names of her Blade Specials all share the same powers that the original KOS-MOS has in Xenosaga or attacks that she has done.
Please use the Invader Zim "Lying!" clips during Torna in two (?) episodes for the side quests. Oh yeah, you need to do like 80% of the side quests in TtGC. Have fun. 😊
27:54 i know others said it already but Zeke here says "same kind of stuff" because they didnt see the same things. like everyone saw something reflecting their darkest fears and stuff but for example zeke and tora didnt see you reking their shit in combat.
14:10 "Rex-Rex nia is higher level than you....will you be okay?" "Maybe if i was the size of gramps I'd struggle....but nia's a healer! She cant hurt me that bad." "Even after you've friend-zoned her?" "Nah -I'd win- I can keep goin'."
36:14 Please go check Alvis's Redesign for Definitive Edition, as you will see, he is Ontos, basically as i said last video, there was going to be a connection between the Aegis and the Monado, because the Aegis is actually a Monado and to why it's named Aegis, it got it's name, well that it gets answered in Torna.
Yeah a lot of people miss the detail about what the Aegis really was in Torna. Its done very quickly but its not so subtle in visuals yet I rarely hear people mention the original aegis. (I wonder if this was what was going to replace the dual processing you know who was doing)
@Implosion-Gaming (Sorry for the Late Reply 😔🙏) The Original Aegis was a Object of Worship in Original XC2 Japanese The Aegis is referred to as The Holy Grail, and this is The Indoline Praetorium's Sacred Relic, that which Malos Destroys it, and then refers to Himself after as "The Aegis", ("The Holy Grail",) then the People of Alrest then later Refer to Mythra the same Upon Her Awakening.
Phantom Mórag is notorious for being one of the worst bosses, not because of her difficulty, but the circumstances you’re in. You had no prompts your party would be separated and worst comes to worst, your ace blades are lost because they’re equipped on your drivers or lost due to story, like Pneuma, Blade Nia and the main blades of each driver. So I lost badass blades like Corvin, Crosette and were left with blades I never invested into. My ace was Adenine who I invested into early game, and a driver accessory that boosted certain stats so long as the blade was opposite gender. But Phantom Nia and Mórag took so many tries
My interpretation of some of the fights against the teamates was that we saw representations of Rex's subconscious. The boy is way more insecure than he first seems, especially with that Zeke bit.
Yeah I agree I mean "they are the fears you carry" basically confirms it for me. Hes scared nia will blame him for his "childish dream" and for loving pyra/mythra, that morag will blame the deaths of her loved ones and country on his quest leading to nothingness, and zeke being him but better in every way being the real person to deserve the aegis, and gramps resenting him for basically being a living apartment and car
He is a parallel to both Klaus and Amalthus. That's why the question Zeke asks him in ch9 is so important. While Rex was indeed both lonely and insecure like them, he always chose the better path, and never stopped loving himself and his ideals.
Most of the comments will outright say it, but since you know that Pneuma and Logos are machine processors that can be influenced by their driver, there’s a certain someone with white hair in Xenoblade 1 that referred to themself just as Pneuma and Logos were. And to top it off, if you look at specifically their Xenoblade 1 Definitive Edition portrait, you’re mind shall be blown
37:04 So yeah, Amalthus' cleansing ritual was stripping Core Crystals of their accumulated evolutionary code, so on one hand, that made them easier to be bonded to a Driver, but on the other, it also prevented them from ever evolving into Titans. He basically kept resetting Cores to factory default, leading the world to oblivion.
Man the end of this game is always so good, especially now with my extensive knowledge of the Xenoblade games seeing how everything connects and picking up on ideas and concepts I didn't originally; Xenoblade Chronicles 2 remains my favourite game I have played.
Now what exactly the conduit is, hasn't been explicitly confirmed in the Xenoblade canon, but its functionally very very similar to the Zohar in xenogears and xenosaga. So if you wanna find out more i do recommend playing those, or looking into them.
Ah yes, Klaus. The man who wanted to become god and ended up destroying his world, splitting himself in half, and creating a separate world where he…is basically a god. Task failed successfully I guess.
I mean, Zanza is a guy who thinks he’s god, while the architect is actually a god. It’s like the half of Klaus that was teleported away contained all his ego.
So about ONTOS. If you want a hint on where to find him check the redesigns of all the named characters in Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition and see if you can find the character who has an Aegis Core Crystal on them. Another hint is that the Aegis Core is a necklace so look around all the characters necks.
36:10 So you remember that sussy silver haired twink in Xenoblade 1 who was always interested in Shulk? You ever think about how his necklace looks a little familiar? Boom there's your answer.
35:16 Not sure if anyone mentioned this. But if you look at the evolutionary tree you don't see Nopon on it at all. Nopon really are the enigma of the Xenoblade series.
So... it's an unspoken rule in the Xenoblade community, especially within 2, that once a new player has hit Chapter 10, or even starting to get CLOSE to it, you do not imply, hint, or even say ANYTHING related to it. Because the reveals this chapter has are worth every minute of it.
Ill admit id written off ever playing Xenoblade 2, i played Xenoblade 1 up to around makna forest back on my wii u. So casually a few years ago i picked up a copy of Xenoblade x, and thought ehh why not ill watch a playthrough of Xenoblade 2, while im still working through this. Then i got that scene with klaus in the space center. Im pretty sure that day i just impulse bought Xenoblade definitive edition, because i really really wanted to understand the connection. So uh yeah i ended up just binging Xenoblade x and definitive edition for like 3 months straight it was awesome. (I played 2 like a year later when i finally found a copy)
25:51 ok, now that I think about it, this the first time Rex had an actual mental breakdown, minus the part after where we got absolutely destroyed by Jin
The ending of this game really is just peak story telling and the greatest part is having saved torna your gonna get to move on from peak one to peak two the dlc
And about the visions Klaus showed Rex, those were Rex's fears that he fears his other party members think about him and the same thing happened to the rest of the party members, (Off Screen) 13:12 also take note of Rex's fear with Nia, he realizes he f up!, when Nia confessed to him this becomes important later let's just say 😅
This part of the game really f$*#ked me up at first because right before it I put all my best healing blades on other characters, with Nia being the one on Rex. Meaning all my healing blades were locked away. I had to go back an hour to an earlier save to get Nim back on Rex. Nim saved my ass and I'm eternally grateful to that vixen.
You asked who Ontos is. Who do you remember in Xenoblade 1 had a crystal that looks like Pyra and Malos's core crystal? Yep. Alvis. Ontos is Alvis, in other words, the Manado.
I love that Chapter 10 is like twenty minutes of gameplay and nine hundred hours of cutscenes. Seems silly on paper but it completely feels natural. The old Xeno games aren't technically part of the multiverse because of copyright issues. Xenoblade X isn't either for some odd reason. I mean, I guess they technically are, but specifically it's just 1 and 2. Logos means "Word", Pneuma means "Spirit", Ontos means "Truth", and the three are generally associated with the Holy Trinity in the Bible. It's great that Klaus clarifies though, that the meaning behind the names are ultimately empty, and merely a reflection of his own hubris. As some have noted, though, Logos manifested as a male, with the most stereotypical macho-man characteristics, while Pneuma manifested as female, with equally stereotypical female traits. Ontos' fate was never elaborated upon, which resulted in some very interesting speculation. One theory was that the Zohar from Xenosaga is Ontos. I think it's just another manifestation of The Conduit, but it's an interesting theory nonetheless. Someone pointed out that the left half of your brain is responsible for logic and critical thinking, while the right is emotion and such. It could be that they intentionally chose to make the Architect the right side of Klaus' body to emphasize the regret and emotion he feels, while his left half is pure critical thinking, emotionless, callous, and focused solely on becoming a god. I'm not super into JRPGs and anime so this ending caught me completely off-guard. The only thing I had to compare it to was Gurren Lagann. Both are absolute masterpieces in my opinion. As far as gaslighting goes, if you decide to play the third Xenoblade Chronicles, know that I could outright tell you the story and you'd still think I was gaslighting you. I'll be interested to see what you think about the story and gameplay. I've loved watching you go through this entire journey.
Just to clarify a few things, the party members Rex fights aren’t what those characters think of him, they’re manifestations of what Rex fears. He’s scared of rejecting and hurting Nia, scared of betraying the trust placed in him by Morag, of taking advantage of Gramps, and so on. Zeke would never say anything like that to Rex, but because of his internal doubts his belief that he’s not good enough comes out of the mouth of someone he looks up to. Since the characters saw their deepest fears, I wouldn’t be surprised if Nia saw herself being rejected and hated not just by Rex but everyone she trusts, or Zeke being confronted by how he didn’t stop Amalthus or how he and Pandoria and now dependent on each other. Which is why the scene with Pyra and Mythra is important. It’s Klaus testing to see how Rex reacts when he is able to be happy even if everyone else isn’t, and it results in him breaking down. Rex can’t conceive of himself being happy if other people are suffering. Speaking of, Klaus is super interesting. The separation of the Architect and Zanza isn’t a split between good and evil, but rather a matter of memory. Klaus was both someone who wanted to make the world a better place and someone with a god complex. The thought that if he had the power, then no one would suffer. So when he was split in half, one ended up in a new universe as a god with no memories, a clean slate. Meanwhile the other was left in a world he had murdered, alone with nothing but the power he desired. This is what separates Klaus from Zanza, one got everything he wanted but forgot why he wanted it in the first place, and the other lost everything he held dear and was forced to remember.
32:00 heheheheheheh oh man just wait til you get to xenoblade 3, side note im playing through it again myself, i cant wait to see how you like or dislike the new combat system, i personally love it for 1 key reason that i will bring up when/if you play it for the channel
Ontos is Alvis... Also Xenosaga is kind of both a sequel and prequel shows where they found the Zohar (Conduit) and takes place something like 6 thousand years in the future from our current date.
As of now Xenosaga is a legally different unconnected property. With more and more references cropping up this might change, but for now I think we should see them as parallel stories with similar themes but not connected lore wise.
@@GreyVictory1510 Sort of... there is copyrighted material in a scene I will not mention (For Spoiler reasons) and Bandai Namco is listed on the credits of 3. I feel they did a collab to try to merge them and the reasoning for this is Xenoblades is much more popular than Xenosaga ever was, and hitching Saga to blades makes a potential remaster/remake more valuable.
43:30 My man over here suffering from literal split personality. It's not fair that Zanza got a full body and Architect was stuck with half for who knows how many millennia.
Xenoblade 2 had its problems, for sure, but this build up to the climax of the game and meeting Klaus was so damn good. I still come back and watch the cutscenes of this chapter sometimes
this is such a crazy final chapter, getting the reveal of things being connected to xenoblade 1, the fight between your party members, meeting Klaus, and then what will be happening next.
Welcome to the truth, one that Monolith really tried to hammer in wasn't a connecting thread before the game came out so be happy that your reactions and feelings discovering all this about the Architect, Alrest and more is pretty much how all of us were like. Also I do find it funny cause of XC1 you were all set for fighting Klaus, hating him right away just like it was Zanza again only for the game to make you turn just like with the Jin and the rest of Torna, heck even Amalthus. Genuinely feels like the only true bad guy in this game is Bana lol
43:00 yeah the architect is basically klaus humanity and his regrets, if you played devil may cry 5 urison and V is a perfect analogy of zanza and the architect
its also funny that the blade you have been saying has been alluding you, i know who it is between 2 blades as they are a bit similar, if you got the one i was think it really is man i bet you would jsut go "DAYUM", (its blade awakening is kinda funny imo)
Ontos's idtentiy is explicitly layed out in Xenoblade 3s dlc but is easily figured out by looking at alvises design in xenoblade 1 Definitivr edition. Its not a secret they were hiding so its really not a spoiler for 3 and you probably wont even remember until you get there
20:49 the game showing you this scene again at this point, now that you understand EVERYTHING about this world, puts it into a MUCH different context. cause at the start of the game its really just "dang the FUCKING LANDMASSES are dying" and now we have all of htis.
If you’re going to finish all the sidequests, i’d recommend 1. Making sure you unlock every Rare Blade, because (i’m sure as pretty sure) that every blade quest should no longer restrict you through story progression 2. Most importantly, you did do Titan Battleship land of challenge battle with Jin, but since you should be getting used to Poppi QTpi, do the challenge “This Year’s Heropon”. And since Tora is the only allowed party member, I think you can guess what the battle will be. Because a certain voice returns which could spoil it if you’re really observant in the end credits Also, you should (if you haven’t) try unlocking all Poppi’s elemental modifiers, so that they’re not locked into Earth, Fire and Ice element. Especially you can get a Light element for Poppi QTpi through Tiger Tiger which makes QTpi even more ridiculously busted. There is a much simpler way to get the Light Core specifically, but it is New Game+ only. But the other remaining element mods are not hard to get as they’re overworld
Firstly, based Power Rangers Lost Galaxy reference, and second, it's incredible how in one conversation Xenoblade 2 alters the view of Klaus as a character.
Afer your long, arduous, dangerous and epic journey....you finally get a talk with god himself and...... recite him the 6th rule of the salvager's code. P.S : Suggestion : Teleport to the space station, right before Elysium. Go up the stairs, bot don't continue forward thowards Elysium, rather go to either left or right. There should be big Blue signs that say "A1". Get close to one of them and read what little can actually be read.
32:18 Yep, so there you have it. Xenoblade 2 isn't a sequel to Xenoblade 1. It isn't a prequel either. It's a sidequel. The two games happen SIMULTANEOUSLY in different dimensions.
This is my favorite game storywise, can't say I've got attached to any other as much as this. And I love persona games, this is just so well done and the implication of 1 and 2 happening at the same time is mindblowing, a bit after when you hear it is peak fiction. I need the rest now!!
It's even deeper than them hiding it till the tease in chapter 7, in a pre launch interview the director even said "they're only connected and linked in the sense that they’re linear and story-driven games.” So it's very much the intention to save all the crazy connective tissue to the end like this. Chat and comments did the right thing by gas lighting you it was what the director himself did to the fans.
There's some things I'd like to talk about, so here goes: The visions that the group saw aren't wholly the same. What Nia and Zeke saw were what they feared, not specifically what Rex fears. For them, they basically went through the same troubles as Rex. I can imagine that if you could play their visions, the party would say different things to them then what they said to Rex. Zeke isn't a traitor, though you're feeling a betrayal was pretty funny. I really like Rex's visions, because a core character trait of his is Greed. He wants the strength to protect his friends and change the world, like what Addam said in their vision together. However, Rex also fears that his greed would cause his friends everything. He fears that all he did for himself and them would mean nothing. It also alludes to how he does know Nia has a crush on him, but doesn't know how to go with Nia. This is further confirmed through a victory quote where Rex tries to address Nia's confession, while Nia says it's fine and laughs it off. All I will say regarding Ontos is that they're a character you have met. I won't specify anymore, they could be a boy or girl, they could be from Xenoblade 1 or 2, that's for you to theorize. It will be important though. I really like what the game does regarding Klaus, and how he contrasts Zanza. Zanza was narcissistic and evil, because he was the result of Klaus's experiment succeeding. Klaus didn't believe in the world, and desired to recreate it, and as Zanza, he essentially did do that. He created the universe of XC1 and he became all powerful because of it. He believes he was right in that universe, which caused him to be the way that he is. XC2's Klaus however is what happens in the face of the experiment's failure. Klaus has to deal with the consequences of his mistakes, and realizes humility and redemption because of it. It's subversive in a really smart way, because the more you see Klaus, the more he reminds you of Zanza, only for him to be the polar opposite of Zanza, because he's the reality where everything went wrong. Finally, for a longtime, many people suspected that Galea became the giant monster you fought in Morytha. The keycard Rex picked up showed a glimmer of her face. This was however deconfirmed after the XC3 art book was released, with it being stated that they were just reusing assets.
@@loremaestro1319 I checked online, and you appear to be correct. I'll edit the comment then. I will say though, that I feel like this should have been the case, but I can't argue with Takahashi. It just makes thematic sense for Klaus to be the cause of his Galea's death.
@@MagikarpMania32 It also doesn’t make sense. Only half of Klaus was sent to Bionis, but all of Galea was sent to Mechonis. That’s why she wasn’t as crazy as Zanza.
@@catalyst539 That isn't necessarily true. What made Zanza crazy wasn't the fact that he was split in half, it was that he succeeded in what was doing. He already had a god complex, him becoming Zanza just further cemented to him that he was right. If being split across dimensions made them crazy, then XC2's Klaus would also be crazy. Additionally, it's not far-fetched to think Galea could have had the same fate as Klaus. She was next to him when he used the conduit, that's why she became Meyneth in XC1. Zanza's appearance is also not the same as Klaus, he still has his full body, so it wouldn't be shocking if Galea kept her full body as well. I know now that the monster isn't Galea, but there's a reason why people believed it to be the case for many years.
Man… every time I see the scene where Rex says “Did… did I go wrong somewhere…?” my heart just sinks to the floor. That whole sequence was cruel
Yep….😢
They really remind you here that Rex is just a kid. One who has too much responsibility on his shoulders and has been doing his best to hold it together all this time.
I honestly felt that shit more than I was prepared for, dude has done so much that you forget he’s still a kid
Al Weaver really shows off his VA skills there.
@@Varindran People give him way too much crap for not being able to do an anime scream, anything else I think he does a great job.
The interesting thing is that in a sense both The Architect (Klaus) and Zanza got what they wanted, they both became a god, they became part of the divine. The Half that Became Zanza genuienly belived his experiment succeeded which lead him to go on a powertrip and ganied the powers of a Creator god, but wanted NONE of the responsabilities of being a God that Creates, while Klaus stucked with the realization of the sins he's done he actually committed to the bit of being a God. It is 2 sides of the same coin with Shulk thrown in the middle
"He committed to the bit of being a god" is an incredible quote
Towards the end of Klaus’ talk with the gang is something special. Those who played Xeno 1 saw him as this up him self, arrogant God that got his comeuppance, and to see him in this world repenting and hating himself and wanting to restore this world for the better is just pure bliss.
The line “Right now…I think… I am glad I met you all” is just beautiful
What's even more interesting is
SPOILERS, DO NOT READ THIS DeiZeiga!!
That in Future Redeemed, A spells out that when space-time transition event that split the universes happened, the half of Klaus that became Zanza _did_ harbor regrets and pain. Sure, he did embody MORE of Klaus's ambitious, ruthless side, but It wasn't a perfect split where one was good and one was evil and that's it. Ontos took on the guilt and genuine intentions that the godhood obsessed Zanza likely wanted nothing to do with. That's how Ontos became more than just a heartless machine during 1. He was more or less Zanza's blade, then Shulk's. It isn't exactly the blade system though, just something similar, albeit more intrinsic to the fabric of XC1's universe. Alvis could pick and choose his masters.
The half of Klaus that was left behind in 2's world was faced with immediate, undeniable consequences, and nobody to talk about them with. Just cold reality and an eternity of time to reflect on his own hubris. He killed EVERYONE, and he was quite literally cursed to live with it. There was no point in having ambitions or justifications, or anything; he was alone, and unlike Zanza, he couldn't instantly use the remaining two cores to reshape reality instantly, because Alrest was not governed entirely by the rules set by the cores, like Alvis controlled 1's world.
I think it’s more accurate to say that Alvis only had the option to choose between Zanza and Shulk because Zanza used him as a vessel and thus basically ‘logged Shulk in’ to Alvis’ input centre.
I'm happy that he had the same reaction as Etika.
You know. Alot of Jrpg protags slay God. But not many can claim restoring God's faith in humanity.
Rex is a boy who recited the Salvager's Code to God, and got on a first name basis with him.
And damn, the final boss is gonna get clapped so hard by level difference.
Rex has undeniable bragging rights for the rest of his life😂
Malos got real quiet after seeing how we smoked Amalthus and Jin😂
@@DeiZeiga”got real quiet”…riiiiiight
Believe me, if you think Rex has bragging rights after finishing this game, let’s just say, stay away from so much as even trailers for Xenoblade 3
Zeiga, the reason you can breathe is because you’re in a space station. The glass is just very clean, so it looks like there’s no wall.
Edit: Also worth noting, what Zanza showed everyone is implied to be everyone’s individual fears about what the others think of themselves, with a bit of truth. So Zeke likely doesn’t think that about Rex and Pyra, it’s just something that Rex is scared Zeke thinks.
That tricked me the first time I played XC2, not going to lie 😅
To add on. The Nia part isn't what Nia actually thinks but instead what Rex is worried Nia thinks. Basically he's subconsciously worried that she's angry at him for not accepting his confession. Which is not how Nia feels at all.
It’s likely everyone else got unique visions that feed on their insecurities using the other party members.
@@The_Evening_SunFunny enough Rex and Nia actually have a post battle dialogue about that confession showing that Rex isn't dense or dumb he just didn't knew how to respond properly to it (even tho we know now how it ended for them later on lmao)
So the 3 core Logos, Pneuma, and Ontos. They have meaning, they're in Greek.
Ontos means "I am" its a reference to (and im heavily paraphrasing) when in the Bible some guy asks god "wat are you" and god answers "yes"
Pneuma means spirit
And Logos means logic.
Together as the Trinity processor they make, well the christan holy trinity.
As in
Ontos: the father
Logos: the son
Pneuma: the holy spirit
Meaning malos is Jesus.
Also that tricycle in Elysium is a refrence to a tricycle that supposedly survived Hiroshima. Nowadays it serves as a warning about the cost of nuclear bombs in Japanese culture. As while the tricycle survived, the same can't be said for the owner.
And finally pre apocalypse earth is slightly expanded on in the Xenoblade 3 dlc. Said dlc also makes Xenosaga cannon. So you might want to play those at some point (the fact that they're cannon now is leading some of fandom to speculate at there being a remaster so maybe don't rush it too fast).
Remember when Dei was asking was the Cloud Sea lore a spoiler? Now he knows
💯 I’m glad y’all didn’t tell me😂
That seems like such an innocuous question but I completely spat out my drink when he asked it
9:25 fun fact via a mod to make the camera free roam you can see that this area is so big that you realize the part that is used in the game is about 1-5% of what is actually there
Oh goddamn Morag got good ass eyesight!
4:20 bro, IT'S GLASS
one of the things I really appreciate about Xenoblade 2 is that it doesn't treat its God character as a bad guy. Even though he's just a person, they still treat him with a level of reverence and care over his actions and give him a deep investment in his creation, which contrasts with so many other jrpgs that treat the gods/creators as more antagonistic. Rex turning towards Klaus at the end and giving him fullhearted "Thank you" for creating them is one of my favorite scenes in the entire series.
God in xb1: eeeevil
God in xb2: "I Just Hope that One day in this eternal prison I Will atone for my mistakes"
But tbf we got the evil pope, so It checks out
There is a theory (which was basically confirmed with the Switch version of Xenoblade 1) that Alvis is Ontos, after all at the end of Xenoblade 1 Alvis told Shulk that he was originally the AI in charge of managing the Space Stationw where Klaus activated the experiment. and well, this IS the same space station after all.
Also In the Switch Version Alvis Necklace changed from just a Key to a Red Colored Aegis core Crystal AND NOT JUST THAT o
if you triangulate the colors of Logos and Pneuma Cores the color that would ve in Theory Ontos, what you get is a shade of dark Red, it's insane
Its also explicitly confirmed in future redeemed
It's not a a theory. It's a game theory...
Thank for watching
It remained a theory for a long period of time until Definitive Edition came out and the changing of Alvis’ necklace basically confirmed it. Many players figured it out waaaay before Definitive Edition was even announced
@@LFPman I played future redeemed day one I know that it's canon and that ontos is non binary
@@Alban_Blade_Memer yes and no. Alvis and Alpha are both referred to as male. A is the only non binary one and calles themselves "his conscious" (referring to alpha). I don't know if ontos as a whole is gender fluid or is only specifically that form is non binary.
40:39 You forget Zanza talked all that shit about Fate this and Fate that, Klaus is still the same person, tied down by this concept that everything is but fated to happen, Klaus created a whole ass counter measure so that another him didn't appear and yet here is Amalthus destroying the world thinking he's a god or some shit. Of course he'd give up
I interpreted a lot of his fate talk as depression after seeing humanity repeat the same evils that he saw in his original world. At that point he basically accepted that this is just human nature "fated" to make the same mistakes again and again.
@@joelsasmad It also plays in Klaus being a deist in contrast to Galea being the rational mind (which is why she confronts him on what the Zohar is) which links it further back to Xenosaga agnostic themes. While Klaus is literally a god, he truly believes he is ordained by a higher entity, which is embodied by the Zohar (much like how Amalthus and Rex did with the Aegis and Elysium respectively)
The interesting thing is Klaus showed them their fears. This means deep down Rex does actually know that Nia confessed to him and is subconsciously afraid she resents him for his answer at the time where he's picked pyra/mythra over her. Nia actually isn't a very jealous person
I mean they literally have a postbattle talk about it, you can even fing on RUclips. It goes kinda like this:
Rex: "Nia..em, about that thing earlier?"
Nia: "Hm?....Oh, y-you about that? Let's talk about it later."
And they indeed talked.
Good thing he meant it when he said "I love you and all of you guys"
@@ArynBacklogDragon 😎
Bro needs to embrace his role as a harem king
A few things i wanted to comment here
1-You might not remember who ontos is but a certain design change on definitive edition makes it obvious
2-Someone else commented this, but yeah the reason why zanza was evil but the architect was good is becuase the experiment showed different apparent results for each of them, they both gained godlike power, but while zanza was thrown into an world that he could rule over, the architect had the destroyed old world.
3-Also yeah what you fought was Rex's fears that he felt deep inside, every party member had a version of that, we just saw Rex's because he is the protagonist
That lost galaxy reference made me feel seen. This guy right here's a real one
BROOOO THANK YOU! I thought I was alone🤣
@@DeiZeigaYou’re not alone dude Lost Galaxy was a great season 👍
@@DeiZeiga your not I'm sure others noticed
@@DeiZeiga Always based to reference Power Rangers. Especially other seasons that aren't just MMPR.
God: What is your deepest desire?
Rex: Let me tell you about the 6th rule of the Salvager Code. It's a good rule, when I get old enough to drink.
God: ... I see ...
Rex in a nutshell 😂😂😂
Genuinely, xenoblade has some of the best lore in any video-game i have ever played. I love it so much. Edit: 36:14 sooooo, little hint for who ontos is, i wont say who it is, just a little hint:
He is in xenoblade 1.
"She needs a real man" nah zeke, I have to throw hands at that point
Bro if this is the inner darkness of Zeke, the goofy justice boi he is…imma close the game
@@LFPman this entire section was Rex's inner doubts, what he thought his teammates think about him, including Nia blaming him for not responding to her feeling. Which is really sad.
Pyra and Mythra needs a real man but that's precisely why Rex is the one they needs and no one else
dlc spoilers
Even Addam admit at one point not being man enough, which is funny considering he's the one Zeke idolize and thought to be the descendant of
@@LFPman It's actually Rex's inner fears of what Zeke really thinks about him.
It's truly incredible how they managed to explain the lore of 2 games within a 20 minute cutscene
Goddamn I never thought of that, that is impressive!
I gotta admit, reaching the very tree you met Pyra at the very beginning, and seeing Elysium is this barren waste land that’s been our end goal this whole time, was a lie? That stuff can be heart shattering
Deadass, I just expected Elysium to be like some lab or something I didn’t think it was gonna be a barren abandoned wasteland that reveal was rough
@@DeiZeiga Elysium was very much like how Pyra saw it in her memory space of the past. But after the experiment and everyone disappeared Elysium slowly died off after how many thousands of years. It was clearly the home to all the people who worked at the Rhadamanthus tower. Honestly I expected Elysium to not be what it was since that's a very easy twist to do. The part about Klaus being the Architect though I didn't expect when I first played it.
I truly do love this game. This is one of my favorite JRPGs of all time. And though it is by no means perfect, it was enjoyable than most may say.
Same ❤
Y'all weren't lying when y'all kept saying that it is peak
36:42 pneuma has become the same for their ascended state and the soiler code name for them is "coffee with milk" the thing rex compared them too at the start of ch8
Nmae*
Xenoblade 2: the only game I know where you can have a magical cat/fox spirit in traditional shrine maiden robes wandering what looks like a completely ordinary and modern airport terminal (though it's technically a spaceport, but the interior is pretty much identical).
I love Xenoblade 2 for basically creating an entire fantasy world, that's distinct, but still recognizably _fantasy..._ that's built out of 100% Clarke-tech.
Regarding side questing now... there is one Blade, with a full Blade Quest, that's only added to the gacha after beating the final boss. While they don't have Blade Quests, there are also new Blades added in NG+ (along with several other mechanics).
There is also another blade you can get in the land of challange. And while their quest isn't exactly a blade quest it is a fun tour around Alrest with them. Hopefully Dei can unlock them so we can see it.
I was genuinely surprised that certain blade was post game only. Because I had a fair few Gacha blades I had left to unlock after completing the main story.
My last three I unlocked in order, was Newt, KOS-MOS and Dahlia. Yeah I have no words how Dahlia of all blades was the rarest for me
@@LFPman Hearing Newt be so rare is so funny to me since she was also rare for me and so many others. My last one to get. All because of a programing oversight that caused one of the blade groups you get early to not work.
DeiZeiga: I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. I don't trust you.
Klaus: *Smiles a little*
DeiZeiga: Ok I trust you.
Klaus lost everything because of his actions and spent an unfathomable amount of time trying to atone. He lived through an entire evolutionary cycle, alone. And when intelligent life finally starts to pop up, they make the same mistakes his kind once did. He can’t even make himself disappear. It’s enough to drive you insane thousands of times over. He had given up on everything… and Rex was able to get through to him. Rex was able to make him see hope in humanity. Rex is genuinely one of my favorite characters in gaming and in fiction.
38:37 - 38:45
DeiZeiga: "50/50 I guess."
Klaus: *literally half a person now* "Really now?"
The truth of this game is crazy as hell and I love it.
36:13 … about this, rewatch the end of Xenoblade Chronicles 1, specifically Alvis’s exposition dump to Shulk thing while he was the weird green light, the math will start mathing, give it a sec.
32:17 Just keep playing man. You’re almost there. There’s a split second moment in the final battle that answers it. Pay close…CLOSE attention and brush up your Xenoblade 1 cutscene knowledge
Ok, so the Conduit is a Xenosaga thing, basically source of infinite power, anything is possible through the Zohar/Conduit blah blah blah.
IN A MODEL FOR SIREN, THE ARTIFICE MYTHRA USES-- There is some lore dropped that says the Conduit/Zohar was found in a Lake in Africa same way it was found in Xenosaga (THIS IS NOT A SPOILER BECAUSE IT IS LITERALLY THE OPENING CUTSCENE OF XENOSAGA 1) So uhhh yeah!
Well it's tecnically a xenogears thing, the zohar appeared there first.
The scene where he examines the shape of our hearts very much so gives me Evangelion vibes
They really bend you over their lap and break your spine with the emotion in the final chapter.
This game is super underrated, I swear, it has its issues of course, but if you look past them it's one of the best story experiences ever and the characters are phenomenal.. god I love the Xenoblade series..
You got it all right. The worlds of XC1 and 2 share a common origin and both of their plots unfold at roughly the same time in paralell universes. It's one of the coolest ways I've seen a game handle its "sequel", because you don't really need to play the first one to understand and enjoy the story of the second, but if you did then this final chapter becomes absolutely mindblowing.
About Ontos (the third aegis that travelled to another dimension), it's confirmed now to be Alvis from XC1. If you remember at the end of the game he stated that he was a processing unit, and in the switch remaster they changed his model to now feature a cross-shaped crystal on his chest.
As someone who did play 2 first, I will admit, the opening cutscene of Klaus beginning his experiment and the exposition talk with the party had a few times where it would fly over my head. When you’ve got fans that have played 1 first like Etika and Dei that were out for Klaus’ blood before he could explain himself.
Part of me wishes Alvis always had his Aegis core crystal back in the original game (before DE existed), but that would be too risky because very observant fans would figure out the two worlds are canon before so much as the glimpse in the Crucible.
Stay calm everyone! Stay f$&_ing calm!
“What’s the procedure?”
“Everyone calm the f*ck down!”
I AM NOT CALM
37:21 look how far you’ve cone my man! I…We are all proud of you
So, some little explanations that the game doesn't give you:
Ontos, the third Aegis, is none other than Alvis. If you see a photo from Alvis, you'll see the Aegis Core Crystal on his chest.
The Conduit has the same shape as the Aegis Coore Crystals because the Aegis Core Crystals come from the Trinity Processor, a processor that's made by the conduit to let humans use its power.
The world before Xenoblade 1 and 2 is actually Earth, the Conduit was discovered on 2001 in Africa, and it was so powerfull it let humans make big technological advancements. That's how they built the orbital ring. Earth was destroyed in wars to take control over the Conduit, and Elysium was built as a replacemente for Earth.
When Klaus used the conduit, the universe was split in two, and as you figured, Xenoblade 1 and 2 happen at the same time.
Well he is not a Aegis. Aegis is a term made up by the ppl of Alrest as explained in Torna. It only refers to the Blades that came out of the core crystals of Pneuma and Logos. He is also not a Blade, since he left before Klaus invented the Blade system (that Ontos did a phase time transition event is a mistranlation, the experiment was the phase transition event that made Ontos dissapear at the beginning). He also has his memories pre-experiment unlike Malos and Mythra. Meaning instead of Aegis, Alvis is a pure Trinity Processor.
@@nicovoth7243 Yeah that's true but it's just easier to call him an Aegis to explain things
@@aegislight98 I mean wouldn't be Trinity Processor? Since that is the term that could technically refer to all three.
I was wondering what the game meant by 20XX
Funny you ask if KOS-MOS is the same KOS-MOS from Xenosaga. She isn't but is a version of the same character created by Tanaka, the artist who designed her, who said he wanted to keep the design similar to the original "Ver.1" appearance of the character, and something that would represent "Xenosaga" in the game as a whole.
Her name in the Japanese version is KOS-MOS Re or KOS-MOS Refrain as it was a refrain on the design of the previous person who designed her in Xenoaga.
So technically this KOS-MOS is completely different as she has Cannons whose shapes looks like the Conduit in Xenoblade 2 or the Zohar in Xenosage with pink energy wings yet retains much of the originals demeanor and vast knowledge. The names of her Blade Specials all share the same powers that the original KOS-MOS has in Xenosaga or attacks that she has done.
Please use the Invader Zim "Lying!" clips during Torna in two (?) episodes for the side quests.
Oh yeah, you need to do like 80% of the side quests in TtGC. Have fun. 😊
27:54 i know others said it already but
Zeke here says "same kind of stuff" because they didnt see the same things.
like everyone saw something reflecting their darkest fears and stuff
but for example zeke and tora didnt see you reking their shit in combat.
14:10 "Rex-Rex nia is higher level than you....will you be okay?"
"Maybe if i was the size of gramps I'd struggle....but nia's a healer! She cant hurt me that bad."
"Even after you've friend-zoned her?"
"Nah -I'd win- I can keep goin'."
36:14 Please go check Alvis's Redesign for Definitive Edition, as you will see, he is Ontos, basically as i said last video, there was going to be a connection between the Aegis and the Monado, because the Aegis is actually a Monado and to why it's named Aegis, it got it's name, well that it gets answered in Torna.
Sorry I didn't realize until your recent comment lol but dam I should've known that beautiful bastard was involved in this!
Yeah a lot of people miss the detail about what the Aegis really was in Torna. Its done very quickly but its not so subtle in visuals yet I rarely hear people mention the original aegis. (I wonder if this was what was going to replace the dual processing you know who was doing)
@Implosion-Gaming (Sorry for the Late Reply 😔🙏) The Original Aegis was a Object of Worship in Original XC2 Japanese The Aegis is referred to as The Holy Grail, and this is The Indoline Praetorium's Sacred Relic, that which Malos Destroys it, and then refers to Himself after as "The Aegis", ("The Holy Grail",) then the People of Alrest then later Refer to Mythra the same Upon Her Awakening.
Phantom Mórag is notorious for being one of the worst bosses, not because of her difficulty, but the circumstances you’re in.
You had no prompts your party would be separated and worst comes to worst, your ace blades are lost because they’re equipped on your drivers or lost due to story, like Pneuma, Blade Nia and the main blades of each driver. So I lost badass blades like Corvin, Crosette and were left with blades I never invested into.
My ace was Adenine who I invested into early game, and a driver accessory that boosted certain stats so long as the blade was opposite gender. But Phantom Nia and Mórag took so many tries
In my first playthrough I only survived against Morag thanks to Kora's walking joy skill.
It's sooo dirty that you get no warning that you gotta fight your own team members
My interpretation of some of the fights against the teamates was that we saw representations of Rex's subconscious. The boy is way more insecure than he first seems, especially with that Zeke bit.
Yeah I agree I mean "they are the fears you carry" basically confirms it for me. Hes scared nia will blame him for his "childish dream" and for loving pyra/mythra, that morag will blame the deaths of her loved ones and country on his quest leading to nothingness, and zeke being him but better in every way being the real person to deserve the aegis, and gramps resenting him for basically being a living apartment and car
He is a parallel to both Klaus and Amalthus. That's why the question Zeke asks him in ch9 is so important. While Rex was indeed both lonely and insecure like them, he always chose the better path, and never stopped loving himself and his ideals.
Most of the comments will outright say it, but since you know that Pneuma and Logos are machine processors that can be influenced by their driver, there’s a certain someone with white hair in Xenoblade 1 that referred to themself just as Pneuma and Logos were.
And to top it off, if you look at specifically their Xenoblade 1 Definitive Edition portrait, you’re mind shall be blown
37:04 So yeah, Amalthus' cleansing ritual was stripping Core Crystals of their accumulated evolutionary code, so on one hand, that made them easier to be bonded to a Driver, but on the other, it also prevented them from ever evolving into Titans. He basically kept resetting Cores to factory default, leading the world to oblivion.
God, that is so petty.
Man the end of this game is always so good, especially now with my extensive knowledge of the Xenoblade games seeing how everything connects and picking up on ideas and concepts I didn't originally; Xenoblade Chronicles 2 remains my favourite game I have played.
Now what exactly the conduit is, hasn't been explicitly confirmed in the Xenoblade canon, but its functionally very very similar to the Zohar in xenogears and xenosaga. So if you wanna find out more i do recommend playing those, or looking into them.
As much as I will be sad/ happy you finishing Xenoblade Chronicles 2, I'm equally excited/ eager to see you start Torna
Ah yes, Klaus. The man who wanted to become god and ended up destroying his world, splitting himself in half, and creating a separate world where he…is basically a god. Task failed successfully I guess.
Honestly I feel like the architect is more a God than Zanza.
I mean, Zanza is a guy who thinks he’s god, while the architect is actually a god. It’s like the half of Klaus that was teleported away contained all his ego.
Ok not the finale of XC 2 yet. BUT I DONT WANT THIS SERIES TO END! 😭
Can’t wait for Torna and XC 3 ❤
So about ONTOS. If you want a hint on where to find him check the redesigns of all the named characters in Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition and see if you can find the character who has an Aegis Core Crystal on them. Another hint is that the Aegis Core is a necklace so look around all the characters necks.
36:10 So you remember that sussy silver haired twink in Xenoblade 1 who was always interested in Shulk? You ever think about how his necklace looks a little familiar? Boom there's your answer.
I can't believe I never put that together I should've suspected that beautiful mofo from the start
Fuck, I cannot help but cry during this parts.
And the next too.
Xenoblade 2 Just does It, every. single. time.
It's the music.... All the feelings come rushing back! Every single time.
35:16 Not sure if anyone mentioned this. But if you look at the evolutionary tree you don't see Nopon on it at all. Nopon really are the enigma of the Xenoblade series.
Holy shit I didn't even notice, where tf do Nopon come from XD!
So... it's an unspoken rule in the Xenoblade community, especially within 2, that once a new player has hit Chapter 10, or even starting to get CLOSE to it, you do not imply, hint, or even say ANYTHING related to it. Because the reveals this chapter has are worth every minute of it.
I’m glad you guys stuck to that rule
4:14 you know you are still INSIDE the space station right?
Ill admit id written off ever playing Xenoblade 2, i played Xenoblade 1 up to around makna forest back on my wii u. So casually a few years ago i picked up a copy of Xenoblade x, and thought ehh why not ill watch a playthrough of Xenoblade 2, while im still working through this. Then i got that scene with klaus in the space center. Im pretty sure that day i just impulse bought Xenoblade definitive edition, because i really really wanted to understand the connection. So uh yeah i ended up just binging Xenoblade x and definitive edition for like 3 months straight it was awesome. (I played 2 like a year later when i finally found a copy)
Thus game man... it's just powerful in it's writing. I dunno what else to say.
Meeting God, just casual jrpg stuff here😌
Finally, a new xenoblade video. Love your content, man 👍🏻
30:16 Xenoblade and the Multiverse confirmed XD
25:51 ok, now that I think about it, this the first time Rex had an actual mental breakdown, minus the part after where we got absolutely destroyed by Jin
The 180 from loving Zeke to keeping an eye on him. Oof!
The ending of this game really is just peak story telling and the greatest part is having saved torna your gonna get to move on from peak one to peak two the dlc
And about the visions Klaus showed Rex, those were Rex's fears that he fears his other party members think about him and the same thing happened to the rest of the party members, (Off Screen) 13:12 also take note of Rex's fear with Nia, he realizes he f up!, when Nia confessed to him this becomes important later let's just say 😅
You know, I wonder what the others saw in those visions
The only way he can make it up to her is adding her to the harem😂
19:22 i felt the trust being broken in 2 seconds 💀
It hurt me bad XD
@@DeiZeiga 😔
This part of the game really f$*#ked me up at first because right before it I put all my best healing blades on other characters, with Nia being the one on Rex. Meaning all my healing blades were locked away.
I had to go back an hour to an earlier save to get Nim back on Rex. Nim saved my ass and I'm eternally grateful to that vixen.
You asked who Ontos is. Who do you remember in Xenoblade 1 had a crystal that looks like Pyra and Malos's core crystal? Yep. Alvis. Ontos is Alvis, in other words, the Manado.
Honestly looking at him now I should've guessed it, can't believe I missed that lol!
I love how just as Shulk is destroying the half of Klaus that's bad, Rex is in a sense healing the half that's good.
I love that Chapter 10 is like twenty minutes of gameplay and nine hundred hours of cutscenes. Seems silly on paper but it completely feels natural.
The old Xeno games aren't technically part of the multiverse because of copyright issues. Xenoblade X isn't either for some odd reason. I mean, I guess they technically are, but specifically it's just 1 and 2.
Logos means "Word", Pneuma means "Spirit", Ontos means "Truth", and the three are generally associated with the Holy Trinity in the Bible. It's great that Klaus clarifies though, that the meaning behind the names are ultimately empty, and merely a reflection of his own hubris. As some have noted, though, Logos manifested as a male, with the most stereotypical macho-man characteristics, while Pneuma manifested as female, with equally stereotypical female traits. Ontos' fate was never elaborated upon, which resulted in some very interesting speculation. One theory was that the Zohar from Xenosaga is Ontos. I think it's just another manifestation of The Conduit, but it's an interesting theory nonetheless.
Someone pointed out that the left half of your brain is responsible for logic and critical thinking, while the right is emotion and such. It could be that they intentionally chose to make the Architect the right side of Klaus' body to emphasize the regret and emotion he feels, while his left half is pure critical thinking, emotionless, callous, and focused solely on becoming a god.
I'm not super into JRPGs and anime so this ending caught me completely off-guard. The only thing I had to compare it to was Gurren Lagann. Both are absolute masterpieces in my opinion.
As far as gaslighting goes, if you decide to play the third Xenoblade Chronicles, know that I could outright tell you the story and you'd still think I was gaslighting you. I'll be interested to see what you think about the story and gameplay.
I've loved watching you go through this entire journey.
Just to clarify a few things, the party members Rex fights aren’t what those characters think of him, they’re manifestations of what Rex fears. He’s scared of rejecting and hurting Nia, scared of betraying the trust placed in him by Morag, of taking advantage of Gramps, and so on. Zeke would never say anything like that to Rex, but because of his internal doubts his belief that he’s not good enough comes out of the mouth of someone he looks up to. Since the characters saw their deepest fears, I wouldn’t be surprised if Nia saw herself being rejected and hated not just by Rex but everyone she trusts, or Zeke being confronted by how he didn’t stop Amalthus or how he and Pandoria and now dependent on each other.
Which is why the scene with Pyra and Mythra is important. It’s Klaus testing to see how Rex reacts when he is able to be happy even if everyone else isn’t, and it results in him breaking down. Rex can’t conceive of himself being happy if other people are suffering.
Speaking of, Klaus is super interesting. The separation of the Architect and Zanza isn’t a split between good and evil, but rather a matter of memory. Klaus was both someone who wanted to make the world a better place and someone with a god complex. The thought that if he had the power, then no one would suffer. So when he was split in half, one ended up in a new universe as a god with no memories, a clean slate. Meanwhile the other was left in a world he had murdered, alone with nothing but the power he desired. This is what separates Klaus from Zanza, one got everything he wanted but forgot why he wanted it in the first place, and the other lost everything he held dear and was forced to remember.
32:00 heheheheheheh oh man just wait til you get to xenoblade 3, side note im playing through it again myself, i cant wait to see how you like or dislike the new combat system, i personally love it for 1 key reason that i will bring up when/if you play it for the channel
Ontos is Alvis... Also Xenosaga is kind of both a sequel and prequel shows where they found the Zohar (Conduit) and takes place something like 6 thousand years in the future from our current date.
As of now Xenosaga is a legally different unconnected property. With more and more references cropping up this might change, but for now I think we should see them as parallel stories with similar themes but not connected lore wise.
@@GreyVictory1510 Sort of... there is copyrighted material in a scene I will not mention (For Spoiler reasons) and Bandai Namco is listed on the credits of 3. I feel they did a collab to try to merge them and the reasoning for this is Xenoblades is much more popular than Xenosaga ever was, and hitching Saga to blades makes a potential remaster/remake more valuable.
43:30 My man over here suffering from literal split personality. It's not fair that Zanza got a full body and Architect was stuck with half for who knows how many millennia.
11:20 Nah the stair sliding thing makes more sense
This is the climax of the game. It's SO GOOD!!
After reaching this part, it's ok if you want to go back to sidequesting LOL
Xenoblade 2 had its problems, for sure, but this build up to the climax of the game and meeting Klaus was so damn good. I still come back and watch the cutscenes of this chapter sometimes
this is such a crazy final chapter, getting the reveal of things being connected to xenoblade 1, the fight between your party members, meeting Klaus, and then what will be happening next.
Your response to Klaus is like how they're scared of the Wizard of Oz at first but then he turns out to be kinda nice!
Man, I waited so long to see your reaction to chapter 10 stuff. I'm glad you're having a blast!
Welcome to the truth, one that Monolith really tried to hammer in wasn't a connecting thread before the game came out so be happy that your reactions and feelings discovering all this about the Architect, Alrest and more is pretty much how all of us were like.
Also I do find it funny cause of XC1 you were all set for fighting Klaus, hating him right away just like it was Zanza again only for the game to make you turn just like with the Jin and the rest of Torna, heck even Amalthus.
Genuinely feels like the only true bad guy in this game is Bana lol
It was an incredible reveal, and dam Bana really was the only true bad guy in this game and now he's making gainz on a hamster wheel XD
4:16 to be fair there's Mario Galaxy where he is completely fine in the vacuum of space
36:07 ngl i didnt listen to that part in my first playthrough so i was so confused where the third Aegis is 💀
43:00 yeah the architect is basically klaus humanity and his regrets, if you played devil may cry 5 urison and V is a perfect analogy of zanza and the architect
I never thought I'd see a DMC reference around here! Here you go👑
@@DeiZeiga yeah i couldnt really think of any other examples, but the parallel is just too good
its also funny that the blade you have been saying has been alluding you, i know who it is between 2 blades as they are a bit similar, if you got the one i was think it really is man i bet you would jsut go "DAYUM", (its blade awakening is kinda funny imo)
postpone the finale as many times as you want. more content for me
Don't tempt me lol
Ontos's idtentiy is explicitly layed out in Xenoblade 3s dlc but is easily figured out by looking at alvises design in xenoblade 1 Definitivr edition. Its not a secret they were hiding so its really not a spoiler for 3 and you probably wont even remember until you get there
20:49 the game showing you this scene again at this point, now that you understand EVERYTHING about this world, puts it into a MUCH different context.
cause at the start of the game its really just "dang the FUCKING LANDMASSES are dying"
and now we have all of htis.
Fuckin' Amalthus, rest in piss
If you’re going to finish all the sidequests, i’d recommend
1. Making sure you unlock every Rare Blade, because (i’m sure as pretty sure) that every blade quest should no longer restrict you through story progression
2. Most importantly, you did do Titan Battleship land of challenge battle with Jin, but since you should be getting used to Poppi QTpi, do the challenge “This Year’s Heropon”. And since Tora is the only allowed party member, I think you can guess what the battle will be. Because a certain voice returns which could spoil it if you’re really observant in the end credits
Also, you should (if you haven’t) try unlocking all Poppi’s elemental modifiers, so that they’re not locked into Earth, Fire and Ice element. Especially you can get a Light element for Poppi QTpi through Tiger Tiger which makes QTpi even more ridiculously busted.
There is a much simpler way to get the Light Core specifically, but it is New Game+ only. But the other remaining element mods are not hard to get as they’re overworld
I’ll reserve these for post campaign cause that would take a WHILE😅
Firstly, based Power Rangers Lost Galaxy reference, and second, it's incredible how in one conversation Xenoblade 2 alters the view of Klaus as a character.
And then Future Redeemed comes along and make us go "Klaus did nothing wrong."
Afer your long, arduous, dangerous and epic journey....you finally get a talk with god himself and......
recite him the 6th rule of the salvager's code.
P.S : Suggestion : Teleport to the space station, right before Elysium. Go up the stairs, bot don't continue forward thowards Elysium, rather go to either left or right. There should be big Blue signs that say "A1". Get close to one of them and read what little can actually be read.
Screenshotting that, thanks for the heads up!
32:18 Yep, so there you have it. Xenoblade 2 isn't a sequel to Xenoblade 1. It isn't a prequel either. It's a sidequel. The two games happen SIMULTANEOUSLY in different dimensions.
I've never heard "sidequel" before lol
This is my favorite game storywise, can't say I've got attached to any other as much as this. And I love persona games, this is just so well done and the implication of 1 and 2 happening at the same time is mindblowing, a bit after when you hear it is peak fiction. I need the rest now!!
This is the first game that's ever made me feel that, plus I've never played Persona lol! But both 1 & 2 happening at the same time is crazy!
Man, this lore dump about both games made the game worth going through
For real, it was SO good!
It's even deeper than them hiding it till the tease in chapter 7, in a pre launch interview the director even said "they're only connected and linked in the sense that they’re linear and story-driven games.” So it's very much the intention to save all the crazy connective tissue to the end like this. Chat and comments did the right thing by gas lighting you it was what the director himself did to the fans.
Oh boy, the ending(song), I'm ready for it.
Bro banged out an upload so quick, let's go
Did you get KOS-MOS, I forget?
He did
Absolutely, but my reaction was very flippant cause I didn't understand how rare she is lol
There's some things I'd like to talk about, so here goes:
The visions that the group saw aren't wholly the same. What Nia and Zeke saw were what they feared, not specifically what Rex fears. For them, they basically went through the same troubles as Rex. I can imagine that if you could play their visions, the party would say different things to them then what they said to Rex. Zeke isn't a traitor, though you're feeling a betrayal was pretty funny.
I really like Rex's visions, because a core character trait of his is Greed. He wants the strength to protect his friends and change the world, like what Addam said in their vision together. However, Rex also fears that his greed would cause his friends everything. He fears that all he did for himself and them would mean nothing. It also alludes to how he does know Nia has a crush on him, but doesn't know how to go with Nia. This is further confirmed through a victory quote where Rex tries to address Nia's confession, while Nia says it's fine and laughs it off.
All I will say regarding Ontos is that they're a character you have met. I won't specify anymore, they could be a boy or girl, they could be from Xenoblade 1 or 2, that's for you to theorize. It will be important though.
I really like what the game does regarding Klaus, and how he contrasts Zanza. Zanza was narcissistic and evil, because he was the result of Klaus's experiment succeeding. Klaus didn't believe in the world, and desired to recreate it, and as Zanza, he essentially did do that. He created the universe of XC1 and he became all powerful because of it. He believes he was right in that universe, which caused him to be the way that he is. XC2's Klaus however is what happens in the face of the experiment's failure. Klaus has to deal with the consequences of his mistakes, and realizes humility and redemption because of it. It's subversive in a really smart way, because the more you see Klaus, the more he reminds you of Zanza, only for him to be the polar opposite of Zanza, because he's the reality where everything went wrong.
Finally, for a longtime, many people suspected that Galea became the giant monster you fought in Morytha. The keycard Rex picked up showed a glimmer of her face. This was however deconfirmed after the XC3 art book was released, with it being stated that they were just reusing assets.
Oh. I never caught that that was Galea!
The monster isn't Gelea, the IDs being the same was just them reusing assets. This was confirmed by Takahashi himself in XB3's artbook.
@@loremaestro1319 I checked online, and you appear to be correct. I'll edit the comment then. I will say though, that I feel like this should have been the case, but I can't argue with Takahashi. It just makes thematic sense for Klaus to be the cause of his Galea's death.
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It also doesn’t make sense.
Only half of Klaus was sent to Bionis, but all of Galea was sent to Mechonis. That’s why she wasn’t as crazy as Zanza.
@@catalyst539 That isn't necessarily true. What made Zanza crazy wasn't the fact that he was split in half, it was that he succeeded in what was doing. He already had a god complex, him becoming Zanza just further cemented to him that he was right. If being split across dimensions made them crazy, then XC2's Klaus would also be crazy. Additionally, it's not far-fetched to think Galea could have had the same fate as Klaus. She was next to him when he used the conduit, that's why she became Meyneth in XC1. Zanza's appearance is also not the same as Klaus, he still has his full body, so it wouldn't be shocking if Galea kept her full body as well. I know now that the monster isn't Galea, but there's a reason why people believed it to be the case for many years.